Rangers Rumours Archive July 13 2012
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13 Jul 2012 19:35:09
Dorin Goian saying he won't play in Div 3 and will leave.
Mac2.
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Thought he just came out the other day and said he was committing his future regardless of which league it will be in?! {Ed039's Note - He did that but his agent also said that they had been told it was 95% certain Rangers would be in Div 1, maybe he was having talks with Bomber and The Goalie)
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Heard from someone at nike that they are in the process of negotating the contact on a five year sponsor with us. The likely name is Albion Rangers seemingly it relates to the famous four
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Cant blame the fellow, let it go.
we need youth anyway.
onwards and upwards....
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So he was committing his future regardless of which league it was in (as long as it was SFL1)?!
He should go.
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No big loss. I'd imagine wallace will be sold as well, think is gonna be a long few weeks until the season starts with comings and goings, rumours and scare moungering
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Nike? With a team in the third division? Highly unlikely.
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We should at least get a fee for him then, as he took a wage from newco last month. Does this not mean he accepted the TUPE.
We couldn't afford him in div 3 anyway.
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Fair play to the bigman, I think it's unfair to expect the likes of him to stay on, as he won't have the same emotional ties that someone like McCullough will have. Am I right in saying that we will be entitled to a fee, even if it's nominal, for the likes of goian, bocanegra and Wallace, if they have transferred to newco, as opposed to Naismith etc who didn't?
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At least he came back, and should gain a fee for either the new club or towards the liquidation pot. Not like the other cowards...
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Absolutely fair play to him. He doesn't owe us any allegiance, considering he can't have been a ranger supporter all his life etc. In all fairness, i think a couple of player will be sold on - Wallace being top of that list. The good thing is that we'll get a transfer fee or add ons for these player and so the club can start bringing in some money and focusing on the youth. Muzz
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The only way sevco will be wearing nike strips is if they buy them from the catalogue.
Mikey Bhoy
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Nike own Umbro anyway and are selling the brand at the moment...Man City and England to wear Nike soon...so probably not too far away from being true this one.
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Why wouldn't nike sponsor rangers there a world wide brand selling thousands of shirts every year dont matter where we play
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If the club cannot afford to pay the wages agreed under TUPE, then all of the players will be entitled to leave for nothing.
With reduced incomes, players may be asked to once again take cuts!
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There a shame on scottish football. there cheats and have no face. where is the apology to all celtic supporters and all the other teams who have been robbed and fleeced by them. they will always be sinned died forever and will never hold there heads high again. rangers died and are gone this newco is something new to all. so you can pretend all day long but yous have no rangers.
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Green will now ask all exsisting playing/ground staff to take massive wage cuts or they will be asked to move on. Overheads have been shown to be too high hence running in debt of around 3.5 million during admin (this should have been sorted at onset by Duff& Phelps) so their will definitely be job cuts anyway. I feel sorry for number ground staff who have been with Rangers for many years? dont know if they entitled to redunduncy pay from NEWCO? would think that Green etc would try to minimise payouts as much possible. Players who signed may now also be put up for sale? which makes a mockery of their loyalty to the club over last few weeks ? No wonder others advised to move on now and not be used as pawns in making Greens group money to help pay costs over season. Someone out there seen all this coming?
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Cowards ? These guys took a massive wage cut to try and keep you in business.You and your ilk is why Rangers were hated so much.Grow up and get a life.Would like to see you take a wage reduction to help the firm you work for,
Tam
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God hasnt taken long then ? to think about selling players on for a profit? not even 24hrs and some of us wondering how much we can get for this player and that? NO wonder players didnt want to re-sign and be used like cattle in transfer market. This whole thing stinks any money from players sell on value should been used to pay our debt...god bloody vultures is this what OUR NEW BEGINGING going to be like if so you can bloody keep it,
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Why wouldn't nike sponsor Rangers?? Maybe because they don't want to be associated with lying, cheating etc etc
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You are on the RangersRumours page...not the SevcoRumours page...accept it...WATP!
:-)
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13 Jul 2012 17:06:43
Well bears div3 it is now it's time to stand together and get behind our club.only time will tell how loyal our fans really are,I'm no cg fan but I am a ranger and I urge all fans to stand united now,don't buy season tots if you feel that strongly but let's get back to the games pay at gate if u will,but remember 200,000 at manchester 45,000 plus at ibrox.ranger for life not just Xmas.one last thought has anyone heard anything on potential signings av only heard the black an Beattie rumours but thought was dependant on div1.welcome any info anyone has.chin up bears we will be back no matter what anyone says.watp
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I really really hope The Bear support pack as much of Ibrox and away grounds as possible on their march back to the Spl. I admit the standard of Football will not be much of an attraction but hey neither was the Spl. Just think of the headlines where The Rangers pumped a much needed cash injection into the lower leagues. They voted overwhelmingly to allow us into their leagues. They voted against div1 (which is fair and understandable) We should show our appreciation of our acceptance.
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Not a rangers fan but a wolves fan just to say good luck to rangers for the future it seams all the other scotish clubs have it in for you so storm the 3rd and the 2nd then the 1st and get back to where u belong and remember what comes round goes round
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Ed Now the decision has been made i would like to wish the club all the best in the coming years, the right decision was made today but i hope Whyte and especially Murray hang their heads in shame as he was at the start off this downhill spiral, P.S looking forward to the return of the biggest derby game in the world second to none.
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Its the fans at the end of the day who are the lifeblood of any club,Rangers are the biggest club in scotland thats a fact.The players who stay loyal to the club are your shining light in dark times but you will emerge stronger good luck .
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Have you seen the grounds and max attendances for these grounds, how will the club make any money off of tickets etc etc as well as pay the over heads from Ibrox, Murray Park?? please explainj how we are going to be back stronger in 3 years? it does not add up, feel empty today....Bill
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Now that this has all been sorted out. What do you think our team line up will be next season?
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To Wolves fan, thanks for your support, the Gers will rise again, there is no doubt about that, and as you say "what goes around comes around" hope Wolves go up again, getting rid of big Mick was a mistake
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I applaud the gers fans who wish to start at the bottom, unfortunately for them this will result in yet another bankruptcy.
The newco will not be able to generate sufficient income to pay for the basic overheads at Ibrox and Murray Park. It is not about fans turning up for the first 3 months but for the next 3 years.
Anorak. {Ed039's Note - I dont agree with this assumption)
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Don't worry it'll be SPL1 and SPL2 by Tuesday at the latest.
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To Wolves fan. If your club were in the SPL and been unfairly treated for years to
accommodate Rangers you too would want
them severely punished. gh
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I'm not a Rangers fan, but am a scot living in London (won't disclose who i support as it's not important). Just wanted to say good on you - most of you are taking this in the way it should be taken. Tough times, but heads held high. You'll cruise the lower leagues, helping all the smaller clubs along the way. Those clubs can normally only dream of playing the big guns in their home stadiums. The next few years will give them the opportunity to do just that.
Scottish football is so boring these days, Rangers journey up the leagues is at least something a bit different and interesting.
Imagine the atmosphere at the next old firm derby! Especially if it is the 1st one after Rangers are back in the SPL. Lots of things to look forward to, makes a difference from the normal humdrum of the SPL.
Good luck - enjoy the ride and you'll be welcomed back in the SPL having PROVED that it's your rightful place after all the sanctions and punishments.
Christophe
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Sphell and sfhell and sfa running scared roll on meltdown on all back stabbers w.a.t.p
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Currently the majority of income to run ibrox stems from season ticket sales and tv money not from the meagre allocation of away tickets. Economically the 2 big hits are players wages (thats going to plummet compared to now ( no doubt we will still be paying a high price for suitable quality but not the millions we have wasted currently) and upkeep of ibrox including staff levels. I would hope that with sensible economics and a voluntarily over priced season ticket (with proviso that a fixed sum is set aside for future needs e.g the costs further up the league) then Rangers over 3 years has the potential of paying for its own warchest in advance. the only difficulty in that is clearly our ability to trust the money men not to raid the chest but i think with the right agreements and safeguards it could prove very lucrative. Oh yeah and any TV company sensible enough to see the demand even from outwith Rangers to watch our fightback should pay a tidy sum for the rights which if it includes some of our games live on the way (they televised shinty before so dont come back with the boring tag) we could also bring some tv money to the lower leagues too.
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I hope all you Rangers fans have canceled sky sports and espn I phoned and canceled this afternoon when they asked me why I was canceling I said because I'm a Rangers fan and I'm only interested in watching Rangers games
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My only hope is that out of this quagmire rises a game which promotes scottish talent instead of throwing money at dodgy foreigners.
Maybe in 10-20 years we'll have a national team that isn't utterly p*sh.
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Next sevco celtic match could take place in cup long before you get back into spl celtic v sevco 3rd division squad what a thrashing that could be for the history books 7-1 could be well gone
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Imo rangers will do a year in the nick, also known as SFL DIV 3 , a new SPL format will come into being into which they will be voted into SPL 1 , they will have done their time, no sanctions clean slate move on............ aw yes , a 1 year ban from the scottish cup this year from the SFA......,
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If YOU WHERE THE PEOPLE then the peolple would have backed you, its called DEMOCRACY , you are not the people , the people voted against you and the people said NO.............
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Another Wolves fan here, and a frequent poster on this board. Much respect for everyone here interested in fair play, and for Ally and even CG who seems to be saying the right things just now.
Looking forward to watching Rangers progress up the divisions and to honestly regain the crown. If it means hardship elsewhere then so be it. And I really hope the SFA will sit back and reflect rather than interfere with the will of (almost) all the clubs.
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I agree to some extent with the original post.
As a season ticket holder for 27 years, I have been disgusted with the venom + bile aimed at my football team I have supported as a boy.
I agree Rangers supporters should be totally united like never before. But would add the following:
Keep season tickets at the same price to build up the coffers (include home cup ties if possible within the price).
I would urge all rangers fans to boycott all away games until we are back to the SPL ( if it still exists).
Reasons why : All the clubs who supported a no vote were quite happy to have both the old firm subsidise them for god knows how many years. Why should we add to their coffers, their bitterness beggars belief.
The Raith Rovers chairman has a bloody cheek, his club were on their knees when Rangers agreed to a benefit match to keep them afloat some years back.
In the past we helped clubs in the SPL with ground covers to help them have their games on, this is how they repay us.
We have been battered from pillar to post, we must stand united.
I could go on + on, but I am angry to the core.
Remember united we stand divided we fall.
Stu
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Thrashing Celtic 7-1 from a 3rd Division team - now that would make history.
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To the last poster would that be sevco v pathetic shed or whatever your called. Try saying this, Rangers v Celtic, we're still here!
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No fans visiting away grounds,=no revenue = what clever person came up with that idea,
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Rangers 8 celtic1 1943 dont hit me with the crap doesnt count because it was the war years, game was still played
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Anorak
Will the fans of teams who are returning to buy season tickets renew them next year?
Sporting integrity has won but still all this hatred from opposing fans. I don't suppose they will ever be happy.
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Apart from a new rule brought in 4 seasons ago allowing the junior league winners in the east, west and north regions as well as the junior cup winners only FULL members of the SFA can play in the Scottish Cup. Newco have been accepted into the SFL as an associate member so a new rule will have tobe adopted
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Imo rangers will do a year in the nick
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The 42 teams will vote and reject this from happening.
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Yes SFL3 is right and fair.
How long before newco goes into administration?
How many staff does RFC have and how many will be gone by the start of the season?
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This happened during World War 2 when the Scottish league was suspended,it was not an official game as Celtic's players where in the army fighting the Germans,as where 1 or two of the rangers team,so it could be described as a friendly game and does not count as a "real game".Celtic hold the record for OFFICIAL game results when they humped the gers 7-1 in the 1957 league cup final. Hbhoy
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Think it is time to calm down on this site as it looks like a feed for all the Hooky Kooky fans of other club members of the SPL SFL SFA so called sporting fans. Good old Stenhousemuire the only club that openly supported us I might buy a season ticket for them with the money I will save from my Cancelled Sky ESPN subscription why would we support SPL when the don't want us.
As for my close home team Raith/Rats they forget how many times the Gers have helped them over the years & all there dodgy transport & cash in hand scrappy Board members that have helped them this will be my last post on this site
Fifer
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Sunderland fan here,sorry to hear about the news lads,rangers are my second team,but not so long ago safc were in div 3 and we got stronger as a club and our ranks swelled fans wise and started a generation of hardcore followers,so good luck to all concerned with the real club of glasgow and il see u in europe very soon,hopefully with safc.tk73
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Remind me Stu of Sir Minty's words to Airdrie when they owed Rangers cash a few years ago? or your current managers words about Celtic in 1994? or can you you not remember?......Stevie
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Hello Hello Bluenoses,
I am gutted about the current affairs of our glorious club. I believe that there will be massive reform as the spl, sfl cannot afford to miss our revenue from the next 3 years.
I do believe that we will come back stronger and better for it. The likes of Aberdeen, kilmarnock Motherwell etc will fold. Let their own short sightedness be there on downfall! He'll mend everyone of them - it's in the best interests of sporting integrity.
One thing that annoys the life outta me is this campaign to cancel sky/ espn etc - Are we so blind to see that Sky eyc will play no bearing on the outcome of our club so why be as pathetic to even think they will - you are only punishing yourself's!
Anyway we are the people and will continue to be world record holders!
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Do you expect me to pay sky sports just to watch celtic win the spl by 25 pts. NO CHANCE
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Rangers won't play in 3rd Div. SFA sanctions on the things Rangers did will be one year suspension from football and then straight into expanded SPL
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I dont agree with boycotting away game in the sfl 1-3! We should be selling these grounds out week in week out until we make it back to the spl. Remember these were the teams who wanted us in the sfl.
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13 Jul 2012 16:02:47
Ed are we aloud to sign any 1 yet or do we have to wait for more court action {Ed039's Note - More clarification needed)
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Sign someone, there is every possibility that we could be suspended for a year.
This saga may run longer than the Mousetrap.
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No we cannot sign anybody as we are still in LIQUIDATION. The whole 'we've signed Ian Black' stuff last week was all nonsense as I pointed out then. And we won't be able to sign anybody else till D&P have stopped bleeding what's left of the club dry. {Ed039's Note - Erm, the oldco has nothing to do with it, the newco would be the ones to hold registrations now)
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I am a football fan, ex ref also a Celtic supporter, now that Rangers have went to Div 3 I dont think they should have any other punishments, after all they are a new club, lets get on and play football. All the best to everyone for the future and lets hope this never happens again to any club. Now to re-organise Scottish football, do away with the SPL and have one governing body.
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I dont think that newco should get further punishments either but oldco must get any titles or other trophys removed from the recordbook because of the EBT's.
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Well said #3. Good to have a positive viewpoint on here from a CFC fan for a change.
Right Bears...Let's get behind the club,and get us back to where we belong.
We were founded by four men in a park,and look what we achieved.
Our great grandparents and their forefathers got us to where we were.
That responsibility now lies with us.
Let's show everybody what we're made of,and show them that our club really will never die.
P.O.B.
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Your on the wrong site why are Celtic fans fascinated with rangers
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Because it's like watching a train crash in slow motion. It's horrible but you can't look away.
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Can you advise if the new company is allowed to call itself Rangers if the old company has not yet been liquidated?
I think it may need permission from HMRC however I could be spouting rubbish.
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To the guy who wrote about old titles being taken away because of EBT,S,am i missing something here?no laws have been broken and no one found guilty!the EBT,S were in every years accounts signed off and there for all to see so BEHAVE!
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To the fan that believes Rangers (old co.) should give back trophies etc... for EBT's, these aren't illegal. And although what has occurred, and been allowed to occur, is disgraceful .... believe me Rangers aren't the only club that have done things they should have. All clubs should look closely at themselves before pointing fingers at others. Once again, I don't for one minute support what Rangers did, but please don't try and tell me all other clubs are innocent..... Anyway, time to move on. {Ed039's Note - Its the issue of dual contracts that the SFA has to decide on, whether EBTs are legal or not is not an issue)
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Here we go again...celtic fans still want our trophies won taken away,wonder why? Is it sporting integrity or maybe just plain jealously because we are Scotland's most successful club.
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The EBTs may not have been illegal as far as HMRC are concerned, but if the payments were not included in contract details supplied to the SFA, then any player in receipt of these EBTs would be ineligible. The penalty for fielding an ineligible player is to forfeit the match 3 nil. It'll be a pencil-pushing exercise to recalculate past leagues based on Rangers losing each match 0-3 and awarding "trophies" accordingly.
It's a shame that the SPL/SFA didn't use that approach for the season 2011-12. Rangers would have ended up on zero points for the season, would have been relegated to the 1st division (instead of Dunfermline) and they'd have got the result they were after.
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Plain jealousy ? Try plain cheating and the way rangers ran the EBTs was illegal and if rangers weren't doing anything wrong why was Martin Bain shredding the evidence?
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The titles are not getting striped for ebts their getting stripped for double contracts illegally registered players
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Can I ask why many of the posts from Rangers fans finish by telling all that "We're Away To Peterhead"
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I am totally outraged if its true that we have a transfer embargo. The penalties were placed on the old Rangers. What justification is there??
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"celtic fans still want our trophies won taken away,wonder why?"
This is patently untrue as you don't have any trophies.
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Ebt are not illegall if operated correctly, the point is HMRC are saying that they were not hence the reason why it ended up at tribunal.
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Surprised no 1 has picked this up rangers r not in liquidation as mentioned in this post / rangers r in administration
nothing has been liquidized yet fact
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Hibs fan,
Perhaps Rangers should have gone into administration when the bank put their man on the board. Lloyds have walked clean away yet knew more than most about the financial problems brewing. They seemed to have set themselves a get out strategy.
The pain may have been over three years or so but still good enough to fight for a European slot helping to get the finances in order.
Really s**tty times for the supporters.
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Punish Rangers but they aren't Rangers but we will punish them as if they were! Would you lot make your minds up! We are Rangers, always have been and always will be....nothing you say or do will ever change that so dry your eyes and sit and watch your boring SPhell! We will grow stronger and return a true force to be reckoned with and you lot won't know what has hit you! Another thing....when did Rangers get found guilty of wrongdoing with the EBT's? Did I miss the major announcement or was it only broadcast on planet small mindedness? Suffer the fool that sees the punishing of anothers shortcomings as a way to disguise their own!
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Hi ref thanks for the goodluck wish for the future ,you wouldnt be hugh dallas by any chance would you doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - I was thinking the exact same thing Doug lol)
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Rangers have been found guilty by HMRC but they have appealed it that's why it's at a tribunal anyone who disagrees with this is clueless FACT {Ed039's Note - They have not been found guilty, they were hit by a bill by HMRC which they disputed and the investigation is to determine whether Rangers avoided paying tax by the scheme. FACT)
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Well said Ed! Too many fans starting to see there own delusional fictional beliefs as fact! If they read it on a blog then it must be true! I could start a blog stating that Rangers are to be accepted into La Liga.....doesn't mean it's true....yet I bet some folk would still be on forums asking if it is indeed happening! Are some people in this country so dim or is it just sheer ignorance of truth? I despair sometimes!
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13 Jul 2012 16:00:22
How ironic that airdrie back to div 1
Whilst yous in div 3.
What u cook u must taste
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We accept our punishment.NOW GO AWAY & FESTER
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Has it been confirmed that Airdrie will be playing in Div 1?
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80% of US wanted division 3 so whats your point?
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@ 2 - Sorry, but you have not been punished as yet. Merely, the existing rules and the previous precidents (livi & gretna) have been applied.
NewCo still need to get the SFA to agree to the transfer of SFA membership. If that's accepted, and you are still indeed Rangers (by the way, I've no quams with that) then the SFA may then punish you for the antics of the oldco! {Ed039's Note - It was agreed to admit Rangers to SFL today so there is no issue with the membership)
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Why the crap from airdrie supporters , have i missed something {Ed039's Note - David Murray rejected a proposal for Airdrie to repay their debt when they went burst. Bit of karma for them I think)
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Good luck to airdrie, now what is your point??
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Wouldnt want to taste what your cooking ,it resembles hp sauce in colour doug t.s.o
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Ed was it not said that newco had to be voted into a league before it applied for a licence to the sfa i dont think they have been granted a licence yet( i might be wrong) {Ed039's Note - There were 2 votes today, 1 was a vote on whether to allow newco Rangers admission to the SFL and 2 whether they should gain entry to SFL Div 1 or SFL Div 3. On gaining entry the member clubs voted 29 out of 30 in favour and 25 out of 30 voted RFC to Div 3. So RFC have been granted permission to SFL in Div 3. The SFA licence should be a formality now)
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Ed - Rangers still need SFA approval to transfer the oldco share to newco before Rangers can play in SFL3 and that approval has not yet been given.
I appreciate that ordinarily this would just be a matter of rubber stamping the decision by the SFL. However, there is some commentary from respected journalists close to proceedings that the SFA may withhold transfer of membership and use this to try and engineer Rangers into an SPL2.
Don't shoot the messenger.
This is far from over.
Mac2. {Ed039's Note - I can believe that)
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It's sillier than that. The SFA could well manoeuvre Rangers into SPL proper. SFL clubs are suspicious of this and SPL might want to rescue their TV money.
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I like how u associate Airdrie Utd with the old Airdrieonians ?. Thought history was lost by them as you're lot like to point out ours is lost aswell. Contradiction ?
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Re: punishment.
I don't think any is required now. Rangers have been admitted to the SFL as if they were a new club. Let's hope the SFA takes the same view.
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Ed they still need a licence which should be a formality but sfa have already said they will need to except the responsibility of the sanctions to be granted it other wise they wont be excepted under the name rangers {Ed039's Note - Agreed, there will be sanctions attached to the licence but I dont think Rangers will be difficult to deal with)
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13 Jul 2012 15:31:04
Now is the time for all true blues to rise and get behind the team in division 3 vocally and financially,we need to be patient loyal and true .real rangers fans will always be loyal and stand by the team come on guys let's get behind rangers and be positive,looking forward to future triumphs
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I'll get behind them no matter whos in charge, ticket will be renewed.
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Only if the green gang sell to rangers minded people mate....
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Let the infighting begin....really guys this in our team only WE as supporters and fans can fix it and move us forward united we stand....you get the rest
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YOUR NOT RANGERS , you are a newco with no name yet {Ed039's Note - The Rangers Football Club, a trading name of Sevco Scotland Limited (No SC425159) Ibrox Stadium, 150 Edmiston Drive, Glasgow G51 2XD ............. no name?)
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Green has been saying all the right things the last few days (at last) and has thanked the SFL for allowing Rangers in when they were under no obligation to do so. He has gone up in my opinion. {Ed039's Note - He has carried himself well through this in my opinion, but now the hard work starts)
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See this rangers minded people crap gie it a rest. what has that got to do with anythin? we had one in charge remember he took dodgey tax decisions and landed us with a massive bill so he could buy players he wanted to see in a rangers jersey, hearrt ruled the head and landed us in division 3!! we need someone that can run a f***in business properly let ally be the rangers minded man that looks after the team and let us be the rangers minded people that support it!
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Time to get behind Green. He can now have my season ticket money.
PS. Has Bomber given back the money to the pensioner that stumped up for a season ticket, because that never sounded very legal to me! {Ed039's Note - It would have been illegal for Bomber to sell him a season ticket as he has no company to sell them for)
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It does not matter what name we are called,we will always be rangers true blues forever
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When are these a**holes going to realise we need to stick together, what has green done so wrong , he was only one who put up money .get a grip brown is an embarresment and Goram has went right down in my expectations with his crap that fans gave Green a vote of no confidence last wednesday on SSN,,I was there and only person who got s**t was brown for acting like a thug.Green answered everything that was asked and came across as ok
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Some people never learn, till green comes out and tells us who is in his consortium then not one thin dime from me (whyte still involved?)
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Green put the money up, he has more balls than 50,000 bears. He is my hero well done Charlie keep up the good work 10 out of 10 so far.
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Hello ed39 how many trophys have your club won? jim the tim. {Ed039's Note - Hello Jim the Tim, they won 54 league titles, how many did yours win over the same period)
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Green never put up any money his investors(who ever they are) did. And perhaps 50'000 Gers fans are feeling the pinch
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Yes ed 54 but how many were won without unfair advantage .ie cheating as we know it . and that is why its div 3 {Ed039's Note - You asked a question I gave you an answer, its not the one you wanted to hear so here we are again, has there been a ruling on anything that we dont know about yet?)
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Ed, why are Celtic fans so interested in our wee diddy div 3 team?
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Newco means exaclty that, no history, no tropheys etc. It starts from Div 3, if you gain promotion that will be your first, he he
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Its yet to be proved if its cheating, ebt's are not illegal so please don't say they are. the so called dual contracts are still being looked at, so until that happens its not cheating, and finally its eleven against eleven on the pitch and celtic just couldn't cut it.
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Well you know what they say about wee diddys ,they get bigger through time doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - My Mrs hasnt lol, I would need to pay for them)
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He ed 39 ,i call my girlfriend del monte ,what a pear lol doug
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13 Jul 2012 15:24:35
Ok its all done and dusted now, time for every single fan to get behind the team and get ourself back to where we belong. We need to keep going to prove we are the people who will stick by our team. Lets watch all the other team suffer with finances and keep our club growing straight back to the top. Season tickets must b renewed, £150-£200 per season max. I cant even get to many games on a sat but will still renew because its the club i love and allways will. We are the people so lets all prove we are!
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Im not giving Green a penny until i know he isnt just another crook and if you hand any sense so would you im not losing anymore money to shysters ... or do you not have kids or anything to worry about.
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A typical example or pure SPITE! All u had to do was sell ur players and make an honest attempt to pay ur debts but u choose not to and go as a newco and hence ur lucky ur in the 3rd div at all! Its your bed now take the consequences! All this make them suffer garbage is scorched earth policy out of spite and revenge {Ed039's Note - And yours is sporting integrity I suppose?)
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Here we go with more of this "we will come back stronger while every other team will crumble finacially" p*sh. How can The Rangers prosper and get stronger while the rest struggle. Does not add up. If there is suffering to be done it will include The Rangers. So get a grip of reality
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Agree hes not getting o brown copper coin off me or my family until full clarity is given on.
1.Funding
2.Long term goals for the club not just him
3.Players contracts
4.All the other issues hanging over the oldco,are we liable.
Think he has done nothing constructive since getting the club for a song
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To the SPITE! post. We as Rangers fans have nothing to with club finances other than the money we put IN. We only want our team to be as successful , same as any other football team fan. Thats not spite mate. People like yourself who preach to the Bear support to "pay our debt" ect just rips ma knittin' big time. We're only concerned about our TEAM. {Ed039's Note - great post)
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The fact that other teams will suffer will be to Rangers' advantage.
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While other teams 'suffer', what makes you think The Rangers will benefit?
Totally agree with the fan who's knittin keeps gettin ripped. Fans can only support their team. That's what we do! Hbhoy.
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13 Jul 2012 15:14:00
whats the price for a season ticket in the third . {Ed039's Note - When everything has been clarified, Rangers will release a press statemen on the official website regarding ticket prices)
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I hope they dont charge third division prices we have a team to rebuild here so let see a price thar allows us to carry on as a club and put some money into transfers come on support the team we all shouted for div three now we have it so go out and buy your season tickets my two will be renewed as soon as remember "we dont do walking away" our club needs us more now than ever ;;;;; cooperboy
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Cooperboy,
I agree, they obviously have to reduce tickets and you can be assure that the so called supporters groups will be demanding huge reductions. I hope they reduce by say £100, we need all we can get but think the continuing distrust of Green will now come to the fore and we will be lucky to sell 15000 tickets. More doom ahead I am afraid.
I will renew but don't think I will be there at all, it's dross
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You might but many other "Rangers" men have. So why should we believe you
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Please you all cant be that thick.if the newco dont still get the big money in, how the fack?will newco survive,eg,how do you still keep the stadium going murray park going,etc etc etc. {Ed039's Note - Because there is less overheads associated with playing in the 3rd div, ie less policing, lower crowds so less stewards, surely big earners will be no more so it will players on a modest wage)
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Do you honestly believe youll be allowed to charge spl prices ?? its £12 for an adult and £5 for a child in the 3rd do you think sfl will allow you to charge away fans three times that amount in their league dont think so
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Hello ed39 think your talkin crap still the same size of hoose gas electric etc still the same lower crowds?20 thou? 30?still big bills amigo................ {Ed039's Note - So if you only get 20-30 thousand does it not mean that you can close a stand or stands saving the running costs on said stand(s))
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Ed39 still need up-keep of Ibrox ie catering, cleaning, rates, h&S issues etc. Some of this will cost money all year round, as will Murray Park. How will this be paid for? Hbhoy {Ed039's Note - Didnt Mr Green say he had 20 investors lol)
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Eds note Less overheads ? So you not expecting 30-40 thousand at home games then?.
Tam {Ed039's Note - I dont know what to expect Tam, I think there will be decent crowds until the novelty wares off and then the figures will drop and therefore overheads on match day will drop)
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13 Jul 2012 14:56:07
The Member Clubs of The Scottish Football League have today voted to willingly accept The Rangers Football Club as an Associate Member of The Scottish Football League. Furthermore, The Scottish Football League’s only acceptable position will be to place Rangers F.C. into the Third Division of the IRN-BRU Scottish Football League from the start of this season, 2012/13.
This decision followed our tried and tested process and was taken in cognisance of the other option which was available for consideration and approval.
Today’s decision has been one of the most difficult for all concerned, but it has been taken in the best interests of sporting fairness which is the fundamental principle of The Scottish Football League.Â
The Scottish Football League has been entirely consistent in our willingness to work with other bodies to ensure that we focus on rebuilding our game, restoring pride in our game and exploring revenue streams which allow the game to prosper. Our willingness to achieve these aims does not alter.
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I will say it again Sir David Murray your legacy will long be remembered.
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13 Jul 2012 14:49:40
Rangers take over Stranraers fixtures in D3. Stranraer move to D2 and Airdrie to D1.
Rangers to play Forfar or Brechin in first round North East Section of Ramsden Cup on 28th July {Ed039's Note - Sounds bizarre doesnt it)
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NO ED IT SOUNDS GREAT AT LEAST NOW WE KNOW WE ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL AGAIN, BIG THANKS 2 SFL , COME ON THE GERS
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As a Celtic fan I hope your club can rebuild and get back to playing football. Good luck next season
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Surely not... There must have to be some rescheduling, either in SPL or SFL, to avoid clashes in fixtures at Ibrox and Parkhead on same day...
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The the Gers are taking over Stranraer's fixtures, 1st round in Ramsden coup will be against Stenhousemuir (south/west section)
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First league game is away to Peterhead on 11th August
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This post is the funniest read iv had in a while ... enjoy i cant wait until the champions league starts we might still meet again next year ( if we draw a wee diddy team in the league cup )
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Your first game is against east stirling...ha ha ha
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Champions league, who celtic, you'll struggle to get past the qualifying rounds, who is going to sign for you when the league will be over by xmas.
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If our players leave we will get a big transfer fee for them unlike your skint club has seen them all walk away for nothing one of our players will be worth more than your whole club stadium murray park and all players where worth
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Good luck in the champs league bhoya. There can be no more excuses about players being tired since you are in a one horse league. Will this season bring the same tiresome accusations about corrupt referees. Will the most banned manager in the spl's history continue to fight with anyone and everyone he can or will anyone actually care what happens?
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13 Jul 2012 14:34:59
div 3 for yous next year ,fact you can say what you want but rangers will never come back from this your fans will dwindle yes you will have your diehards but as a club you will never ever come back from this and this is a warning to any team in the future that cheats and steels you will be put to the bottom of the heap ,and in the words of your great sally mc i cant say i am not enjoying it ,jodrok {Ed039's Note - Not so sure)
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Well that's a very sad post by someone with problems, clearly.
Rangers might be down but certainly not out. Maybe a quick comparison of Rangers' potential income (and hence spending power) over the next year or two compared with other SFL clubs might be a tonic to your twisted mind.
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You cant be futher from the truth, yes the club deserve to be punished but to think the fans will not back the club is wrong we will follow follow and we will be back
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Be careful what you wish for. Celtic already selling players in antcipation of lost revenue? We will see. Rangers will be back bigger and stronger. Season ticket already renewed. See you in a few years when we will be stronger than we are now and you will all be weaker than you are now.
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One of the rumors I've heard is rangers newco will now become club 12
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Your hatred is blinding and I hope to see you on here again when we are back to our best...trouncing your lot to the league championship. 54 and counting.
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This is just what I needed to hear. You've just laid down a challenge. I love a challenge. Not so sure about the prophesy no matter how much you might desire it pal!
Sevco till I die. See you've riled me now! {Ed039's Note - Careful now guys)
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Was just wondering since you can see into the future, whats this sats lotto numbers?-
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Wait and see all ur so called big players leaving parkheed because their will be no challange once ur out of europe
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U have not got a clue ,u should be more worried whats going to happen to your club now
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Rangers have done wrong and we have been punished so end off, for u to say wewon't be back, well guess what timmy, when we are at home we will have more fans than any other in the country at our game and we are in div 3, we will be back, we will now look at murray park to bring through the future and for the young guys there will know they will be in first team sooner thatn they thought and this will inspire them and the future will be better, we have done wrong and have been punished, the 'sporting integrity' has been carried out and lets look now at the clubs who voted us out, they will be in admin before the end of season, no more guaranteed full stands when gers come to town, it is now down to hose clubs fans to step up and pay for their own team, well I am defo renewing my season ticket and look forward to meeting new friends and give them our money and just glad we are going to play football, RTID
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An awful lot of people seem to be getting confused. What happened today at Hampden is not a punishment for Rangers it is a consequence of going bust. Personally I think this s a result for the newco because they do not meet the criteria of membership to the SFA.
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Good luck getting back. But oh dear it still continues you can't add on to 54 (soon to be stripped) rangers are a non club, don't exist, dead. LIQUIDATED {Ed039's Note - Then go and post somewhere else. If it is that dis-interesting to you then I am sure you can find something else to concentrate your energies on)
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Just a quick question, what players have Celtic sold out of anticipation of lost revenue then?
Mikey Bhoy {Ed039's Note - Nobody used past tense, it says anticipation which which means in future)
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This is not a punishment. This is the response to a Newco application to join the SFL.
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You are deluded, Rangers will get less than 15000 season tickets at a much reduced price, with no tv income, no Europe.
We still have the costs to run Ibrox and Murray Park. This is the reality and I will be surprised if we survive this. There is nothing good for anybody with this decision, in fact the slow death begins now!
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Will SDM make a public apology if he's found?
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Now the fun starts - I'm buying a family season ticket for Division 3 and, now it's all settled, I can hardly wait :) As we're also banned from europe for three years we don't have to be too concerned on the coefficient so let's get behind whoever's playing the righteous Celtic in the CL qualifiers :)
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Queen's park fan here. Last time we played Rangers we lost 6-0 in a SKOL cup tie at Ibrox with Mo Johnston scoring 4. Looking forward to our revenge at Hampden in the league this season. Bring it on!! {Ed039's Note - I dont know any Queens Park fans, thanks for posting)
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What with the 54 and counting stuff, it's 54 and counted, the next time the rangers win the spl it will be there 1st, but here's hoping us get back soon, I will miss the old firm games, good luck lads!
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What's Celtic got to do with any of this? Let's concentrate on getting 'gers into as many league and cup titles as possible.
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Is it just me or does Ed039 just seem a lot different to other eds. seems to get riled a lot easier and is quite easy to wind up? can you tell me the address of the official sevco announcement please ed039? {Ed039's Note - I just talk straight, i do it at home, at work, with friends, if I have something to say, I will say it and it doesnt matter to me if folk dont like it. Also ask the other Eds and ask them if they have had as difficult a site to run these last few months. If you would like the official "Sevco" announcement it has been posted on the rumours and banter pages and is available through BBC sport website)
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All the best to the Newco, finally the situation is nearing the end.....I hope to see yous at Parkhead in a few years.
For now ciao ciao, but as one last note, all fans out there of every club get to games this season and help your clubs, Scottish Football needs supporters.
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You can't get title 54, for another 54 years, as you are a new company/club you ain't won anything yet!! As I keep saying to my Sevco mates, you're next trophy is you're first, enjoy it when and if it comes! {Ed039's Note - The oldco already won 54)
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My god Celtic fans the history stays with the club when the old co shares transfers to the newco google it see the interviews 54 and counting jealousy or what ok shares still to be transferred and approved by sfa but this will happen and as the song suggests 54 titles and still going strong with an easy 3rd 2nd and1st div titles it'll be 57 by the time we meet you again WRTP
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The history will always be there and added to. As long as there is football being played at Ibrox this club will be Rangers. NEWCO ? it dosent matter about the name, if its THE RANGERS or GLASGOW RANGERS, same fans same ground and it will be title number 54 when it eventually happens. It suits some people to say otherwise but we fellow bears all know we are too big to die.
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Sorry for late reply ed, been at work but the post said Celtic already selling players in anticipation....who have we already been selling?
Mikey Bhoy {Ed039's Note - Mikey, there may well have been nothing published in the mainstream media but a number of fringe players have been released to bring the wage bill down and I expect a few players will leave over the coming weeks, will they be replaced? Maybe. But if has been reported and the likes of a £7m bid comes in for Ki, then things like that represent an excellent piece of business for Celtic and a couple of sales would help the purse strings if there is a short fall in revenue)
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13 Jul 2012 14:29:43
So it's a warm welcome to Scottish Football League three from the SFL chairmen.
A brand new club now needing to put together a SFL 3 winning squad. It's what we all wanted.
Now just SFA sanctions for our license. {Ed039's Note - 29 of the 30 clubs voted for The Rangers to be admitted, there is no problem with that)
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OP not all- i didnt want div 3 but now i have to accept it and get on with it
JG
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OK nobody "wanted" SFL3. Nobody wanted administration, newco, sevco, SPL rejection etc. But everyone wanted a fresh start not some fudged solution. I for one am happy and sincerely hope Regan and Doncaster find a different hobby.
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13 Jul 2012 14:26:58
Ok now we know lets get together and rally behind the club, i hope every bear out there that wanted div 3 will stick by the rangers. lets get our team back and get back to watching and talking about football
I never wanted div 3 but i will have to accept it and will be ordering a season ticket even though i am not likely to be able to attend many games this season
JG {Ed039's Note - My season book will be renewed now, I hope other follow, if we dont buy them then this newco will suffer the same consequence as the old one)
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Bought my season ticket weeks ago, now lets get behind green and let him start building our club again {Ed039's Note - The only reason I didnt do it was purely value for money and I didnt want to fight for a refund if I paid too much, and I was not 100% sure there would be a product to watch this season. Lets just get back to watching football and supporting a football team)
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I find it hard to believe that fans of old rangers will follow new rangers - its just not the same {Ed039's Note - Says you. Do you think the same of the old Wimbledon fans who follow AFC Wimbledon or the Airdrieonians fans who follow Airdrie United?)
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Absolutely, season tickets must be bought.
GDog
RTID
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Newco's statement. "Light Blue's future is uncertain"? {Ed039's Note - If you are talking about the official Rangers website, that is not a statement from the club but a news article)
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If you bought your season ticket ages ago hasnt that money went to old rangers? how did you pay for it? Green hasnt got a bank account as far as im aware .. to many of my fellow Rangers Fans prepared to fling good money after bad, Why not put all our season ticket moany in the bank and buy the thing ourselfs why do we need Green ? Because there is no way that he will keep the assets for 1.5 mil once the Liquidators start there investigation. {Ed039's Note - Metro Bank so he does have a bank account, just not a very good one)
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Ok so it is not the Glasgow Rangers we all grew up supporting, but we all share a common care for the club and in essence it is still rangers just in a different light and bumped into division 3, every club and every business grows from nothing and builds itself, now if the old club only had 500 fans in total then the whole thing would be dead, but it had 50,000 going to the games and another 200,000 watching so with that size of support we can get it back to what it once was, chang aint always bad chief all we can do is try.
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Beg to differ it was always Rangers. It will always be Rangers to the people who truly matter
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13 Jul 2012 14:26:50
so 3 div it is finally back to football...mark. {Ed039's Note - Thank f**k)
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...unless those two jokers try and force SPL2 on us in the next few days.
(Really, can they set an SPL2 up before the start of the season? It takes them longer than that to convene a vote for admitting newco to SPL or even to decide on the wording.)
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13 Jul 2012 14:25:44
25-5 vote for D3
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Do we know who the 5 are? (Sounding like Ally here). {Ed039's Note - Does it really matter??)
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Here we go again wanting someone to blame get real and accept you had to go to div 3 {Ed039's Note - He wasnt wanting to know who voted against, the 5 that voted FOR)
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Accies, Brechin and Stenhousemuir confirmed as 3 who voted for D1
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Albion rovers only team that didnt want them in the league at all
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@Ed. Not specially. But with the SPL vote we knew how each team voted. Nothing vengeful intended. {Ed039's Note - I didnt think there was mate, I am sure the details are out there, but it doesnt really matter now, lets just get back to football)
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13 Jul 2012 14:07:35
BBC Scotland's Brian McLauchlin
"BBC Scotland has learned vote taken will put Rangers Newco in Division 3
Get in there intergrity wins !!
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Regan and Doncaster apparently still threatening to create SPL2 (like in a matter of 2 weeks LOL - before this crisis it was going to take 2 years!)
I hope the SFL teams refuse to have anything to do with these guys although Longmuir seems to be too close for comfort. In fact can't they now just pack their bags and go? {Ed039's Note - They need to go)
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But, but, but, but.......bomber said it was guarenteed we would be in Div One.
was he wrong?? {Ed039's Note - Drunk maybe)
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This time last week I posted this:
I strongly suspect that what tiny credibility Bomber still has will disappear next Friday when it's proved that his assertion that he knows for a fact that Rangers will play in SFL Div 1 next season is proven to be like everything else the eejit says - utter mince.
Wonder what documents Bomber actually saw that proved Div1 was a done deal? I'm guessing he was probably just a bit 'confused' after another day on the Special Brews & Buckie.
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A new era new legends and the gers march forward lets get behind them.
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"Get in there intergrity wins ! "
i find it odd that 'rangers' are now a bastion of integrity given all that has gone on to get them into this position? {Ed039's Note - I detetced a hint of sarcasm, get off your high horse)
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Integrity wins - not quite, rangers now asking for SPL 2. how dignified. {Ed039's Note - Where have you read that Rangers are asking for SPL 2? Talk about ignorance, it is the SFA and SPL that are exploring SPL 2! The actual official line from Rangers is they will play wherever the league sees fit, get it right before making a fool of yourself)
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"They need to go"
Yes, they really do. Their plans have been blown out of the water. Time for a fresh start.
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Do you honestly think rangers are not asking for spl2? It was only last week they asked for spl.
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By saying they will play wherever the league see fit they are leaving the possibility open of playing in spl 2, which in my book is contradictory to today's pr stunt of being dignified and accepting div 3 as voted by 25 clubs
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13 Jul 2012 13:00:33
Radio Scotland - It looks at least 18 SFL clubs for Div 3
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SPL will bring Rangers back if put in div 3. They hoped for div 1(only because sky sports agreed one season only) but that backfired. FACT!!
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Its a shame this will now look like Rangers are somehow being demoted... Sevco (eventually The Rangers) should have the chance to start again if bills are not met
The idea though that Charles Green has bought the history of the club? This is sheer lunacy... Why not buy the Dalai Lama's tranquility... Or the Battle of Hastings...
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How can Radio Scotland know this for definite. There are no reporters in the meeting or are the SFL chairmen tweeting their jouralist pals ( if they've got any that is ). I reckon some sort of deal is being brokered by the tw*ts in the SPL and SFA to bribe SFL into putting Rangers into Div 1. It would have been all over by now if it was a case of a straight vote. As a GERS fan, this dismays me as we should be starting in Div3. The vote should never have happened ( if at this time of posting it already has - I doubt it ). SPL/SFA/SFL should have put us straight into Div3. Sporting integrity upheld. All SFL clubs happy. Life goes on and football is played with the season starting on time. Unfortunately, some SFL chairmen and the heirarchy at the SFA/SPL/SFL all want there moment in the sun and have dragged this sorry mess out beyond an acceptable time scale. I hope the restructuring of the Scottish game comes about and Regan, Longmuir & Doncaster get their collective marching orders but the realist in me expects more of the same ad infinitum.
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RangersJust been anounced rangers in div three after vote so let get behind them my two season tivkets will be renewed
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Div 3 it is.
Hopefully Regan and Doncaster will be getting their p45s ASAP. Clowns.
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GGOD NEWS ;Division 3 it is..we are not being asked to SUBMIT application to join Scottish leagues thnkfully. {Ed039's Note - That was never going to happen)
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Just been watching SKY about our team being allowed into DIV3 etc. Guess what they have important annoucment to go to? Rangers going div 3 against important annoucement which more important then ?? yes John Terry not guilty? god you couldnt write this crap, we mean nothing in big picture of Britsh football, more time on his result than ours?? Bloody JT AGAINST NEWCO AND WE MEAN NOTHING . gOD THEY NOW GOING ROUND SPEAKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA they might as well ask if Scotlands open this week? {Ed039's Note - I was watching, I suppose they now have no money invested in Rangers per se then this is more important to them and their viewers)
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25 clubs voted for 3rd division. Also vote of no confidence in Regan? {Ed039's Note - Absoloutley, I think his position has to be in serious jeopardy now)
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I really wish Regan and Doncaster would now go away before they embarrass us all (meaning Scottish football) any more. Nearly everyone (fans, players, club chairs etc) wants SFL3 so let's get on and play some football now.
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Now you might see the clearer picture that sky doesnt give a toss about what division your in nor does anyone in scottish football so maybe now youll realise your not as important as you think {Ed039's Note - You think Sky arent bothered. Who's deluded now?)
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To the idiot above refering to battle of hastings i have a question, if i buy edinburgh castle does it lose its history, OF COURSE NOT now stop your childish posting and get back to your own page
JG {Ed039's Note - You might be surprised at me saying this but here we go, if Edinburgh Castle falls to the ground and you buy the remains, does it keep its history. Yes it will always be there, but it wont be attached to the new building. Sorry but I thought I would say it before someone else does. The fact is that our next title will be another Rangers title, it might just not go onto the same record books)
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As a Jags fan,I'd have prfered Rangers in Div 1 next season.I think Rangers will be much stronger in a couple of years time when we compete against them.Anyway the lower leagues will be great fun for Gers fans,you're on a great journey...never mind the doomsayers,all the best and see you at firhill soon.
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13 Jul 2012 12:45:44
Newco in secret talks to ground share with SRU at Murrayfield for 2013/14 season.
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Your obviously a well informed and intelligent individual thanks for the update I look forward to it becoming public knowledge! While I'm on can you help me out? What age is Santa on his next birthday I'd like to sent him a card because I want a special present for my Christmas this year ! Thanks in anticipation .
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Obviously not much of a secret if you can tell us about it........
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Where did u pull that one from. Surely if glasgow rangers were goin to rent a stadium it would be hampden.
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Don't be daft, why would a club in the lower leagues move to a stadium 50 miles away with 16000 more seats?
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Nonsense.Events permits are impossible to get for that stadium.There is no chance of a fortnightly gig there. {Ed039's Note - No chance, it would take some events organiser, especially with the new venue being built at SECC)
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13 Jul 2012 09:56:18
The one thing that appears to be under the radar this now is which club, Dundee or Dunfermline will take the Club 12 spot in the spl.
Where is sporting integrity in all of this? Bearing in mind that both Aberdeen and Motherwell have been saved from relegation before by sporting integrity decisions how are the spl dealing with this? A meeting.
Dundee have been told they have no vote in the SFL vote re the newco.
My money is on Dundee, who were only 24pts behind Ross Cnty, for the simple reason the spl have an oppurtunity to try an appease/bribe the tv company with another derby game.
Now that the Glasgow derby is not there, promoting Dundee gives the tv 2 city derbies and one new firm derby. But it also helps shift the balance of tv power in the spl clubs to the east coast. Plus the likeliehood of the tv covering the CFC visits. So it looks like the 4 West coast clubs will be in the minority. The 4 clubs have a total of average home crowds of approx 67,000 while the others have 53,000, but with all the hype about a swell in season ticket sales by all clubs, this should of course increase and their stadia will be filled.
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A Dundee derby. I'm going to get sky sports again.not
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I agree that it is ridiculous to have both those clubs hanging by their b#lls, this should have been resolved immediately after the SPL voted not to transfer the share to Green
I my opinion with the loss of one team from the SPL then relegation should be scrapped (as has happened previously)and dunfermline shoud stay in spl with promoted team making up 12th club as usual
JG
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Aberdeen and Motherwell weren't as Rangers FC
Sevco is a new football club with no trading history seeking admission to the SFL.
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I wouldn't put it past Regan and Doncaster to try and re-instate Rangers into the SPL instead. Can't think of any other reason why Club12 hasn't yet been named. {Ed039's Note - I wouldnt be surprised if they "tried" but I dont think it could possibly happen)
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13 Jul 2012 06:13:05
This may indeed not be a rumour, but alas.... A fact,,,
I hope not, as a lover of the old firm game, I wish you all the best. But I don't see anything other than gloom on the horizon again, and again. Which disturbs me. It's time to rip it up and start again. Good followers of the rangers banner take heed, never let whatever club you want to call it fall in to disrepair again. No more are YOU the people, they've gone now,,there is no 55th tittle, for that is only a pipe dream, time to stutter from the ashes, dower yourself down and realise that no...... We are not bigger, we are not stronger, and by Christ you can do walking away.
Bhrydo BHoy, unlike u, I'm here all week.......
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54 and counting Timmy, or were Celtic formed in 1897, then again in 1994?....then again in 2002....
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Nice to start the day with a post from one of u lot. f**k you must have a boring life
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Same club, same fans, same history, different holding company, next title will be number 55, still the most successful football club in the world, night night timothy. {Ed052's Note - 100% well said mate
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Next title is number one, no matter how much you deny it. No record books will state that it's number 55. {Ed039's Note - How many record books have you bought recently, you can say what you want about history, official or unofficial, the verdict will be in the eye of the beholder)
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I think u will find next title will be no1 u cant start a new company and have same history u @rse just be greatfull u have a league 2 play in next season {Ed039's Note - But you would have us hit with old clubs sanctions wouldn't you you see you can't have it both ways either)
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If you want to be the same club with same history then pay all your debts first, NEWCO the name says it all {Ed039's Note - Do you have the same attitude to the number of businesses who do the same thin time and time again, away you go, sevco, newco, the rangers, Charlie's mob, whatever YOU might wish to call it, to ranger fans it's rangers, so away and bump yir gums)
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Ed what a load of nonsense, you can say what you want about history, it's in the eye of the beholder. That's like saying you could say the Germans won ww2, history shows they never. Not the eye of the beholder. {Ed039's Note - Your comparing a football club folding to world war2, shame on you)
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Comon ed all the people on here like 2 say fact well it is fact next league win will be no1 fact no matter what the fans want 2 think or we might as well all live in fantasy land
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You sure your qualified to be an ed?a liquidated company is a company no more.history dies immediately.IF newco ever win another trophy,it will be their first.artybhoy {Ed039's Note - Did you not see the bit that said "official or unofficial" I wasn't acknowledging if it was 1 or 55 I am giving a personal opinion so learn to read and stop wasting my time)
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I have said all along that old club sanctions die with old club, whatever the new club dose is a fresh start as all the have in common so far is holdings sold to green, I do believe that if they are given preferential treatment over other clubs who have been waiting to join the SFL the some sort of compensation should be given to thes clubs (spartans etc.)
DB77 {Ed039's Note - And in your opinion who should pay that compensation?)
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Wrtp and always will be, Rangers till i die !
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How about checking fiorentinas history? They are a newco. See if there history has been wiped? Worry about ur own team. Bet ur stadium will never be full without us. Which means losing cash. If we're going down the whole of the Scottish game is coming with us ;)
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Personally I do not give a $hit. It's only a number. How many of you were alive when title number 1 was achieved? Does it matter that much? Rangers are having to battle to play football and put a half deceent team together this season and top of the agenda is, when the next title is won, what number will it be?
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I did not say anything about hitting club with sanctions the way i see it what ever division u r in that should be the end of it the only problem i see is when sevco go to buy a player i think most clubs will now ask for money upfront
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Wavetower, club twelve sevco charlies rangers u can call us what u want but we'll always be that team in blue who were better than you
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What sanctions are you lot on about. The newco (unlike CFC) replaced a liquidated assest. The club died, history stopped. No sanctions other than 10 point deduction. Transfer embargo back for review (hence attempting to sign Ian Black), non payment of fine by club or Craig Whyte. No Europe you cry, yes, BECAUSE you are a new club with no accounts. Your ego will kill your club, all this div 3 and watch football die nonsense proves this. Well teddy bears, you'll be the first to fold and that's if you survive the next few weeks. Scottish football has been humiliated by your former club, how about a little humility? Scott
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Got to laugh at this lot, if history is lost, a new club, why does the bitterness, resentment and obsession remain?
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When Iceland went bankrupt they werent renamed Frozen-Water-Place and told everything that happened before doesnt count...
Chelsea fan who doesnt care, just interested...
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Hi and morning to the paranoid fans from parkhead enjoy your times winning the league by 50 points and playing in front of 10'000 fans at parkhead every fortnight because without the teddy bears in the spl your f***ed and it will come back to haunt you not voting us back in and saying it wont affect your club. bulls**t it will a fall in revenue players not happy at playing diddy teams week in week out and don't think that your a cert to be playing in the champions league next season because your'e not and watch players leave next season your scott brown's gary hooper wanyama and the rest of them they are not going to stick around when they realise how bad the league is without us. you will regret the decision not to allow us back in the league. okay sporting integrity is important but so is the state of our game. we were punished enough by the club being liquidated our players walking away to other club's but i fire this warning back at you we will be back stronger in a few season's ready to take our title back and place as number one club in this country. oh and i aint in cuckoo land. i also predict charles green won't be in charge of rangers or sevco 508 as you lot want us to call it he will realise noone wants him and when we are put into the 3rd division he will walk he will accept a 12 million pound bid which i know for a fact will be put to him after today's decision and he will run for the hill's. and take duff and duffer with him. so all i can say is bring on division 3 and f*** the rest of you lot we will watch clubs die and in a couple of years we will be back to retake our place as champions of scotland.
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If as you say and rangers are back to take their place as chanpions of Scotland. the clubs will all have died without rangers in rhe spl bit of a Pyrric victory.Champions of a dead League indeed!
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What planet r u on so the club that was bought for 5.5mill when u still had a chance of spl and still had all your players. now u will be in div3 and have no big players but the club is now worth 12mill i think it is u that is in cuckoo land
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Rubbish, Rangers will find that the rest of SPL is stronger in 5 to 10 years when you manage to get promoted back in. The Rangers of last seaso won't be the Rangers of the next 5 seasons - Sunday league quality with aspirations above their new station.
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So if green "bought the history" I might go spend a few quid, "whazam" I was the first man to walk on the moon ! Or maybe I could say I invented the internal combustion engine ? Now, where's all my royalties mr Benz, mr BMW etc. see it doesn't work, rangers are gone, face the facts, doesn't the word "newco" ring any alarm bells ?
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When rangers do win Scotland's top league again ill be too busy rubbing it in people's noses to care if its number 1 or number 55. Live for the future not in the past. We are still the people and that's what annoys the haters.
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I sense a little bit of fright from that lot over the way, they want us dead forever because they know that when,not if, but when we are back in top flight we will at some point be no 1 again, thats why they cant stay away from this page they cant take thier sorry to close together eyes of the situation, but hey when we do rise from the ashes and beat them to the title it will be all the sweeter.
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As far as I'm concerned rangers are still rangers. I'll still go to the same ibrox. I'll still watch a team in a rangers strip, and I'll still remember our history. Just my opinion and my perception, if others from the other side of the city want to think otherwise, who cares, really {Ed039's Note - This is what I am saying, whatever the legalities, I support Rangers, I celebrated titles, to ME, maybe not in a legal standpoint, the next title (3rd Division) will be ANOTHER celebration)
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54 and counting CELTIC did not go in to administration or liquidation they have been always been there
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One of you lot not boring life mate funny maybe.
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Plenty of sevco watchers on the celtic site. Bet you have a wee gander yourself.
Ed, the legal position is that the rangers football club are about to be liquidated. When they are they will cease to exist. Exactly like third lanark.
Mr. Green has started a new company which cant play in europe because it hasnt been in existence for long enough.
In the past you could go bust, avoid debts And start again as though nothing happened, now you cant. The truth is that anybody could start a football club and apply to join the sfl. Mr. Greens football club is a new club, hence newco duh, in both legal and football terms. He has just got himself a made to measure support ready to fill his pockets. Rangers went bankrupt. {Ed039's Note - I am not disputing that, the very opposite, I am agreeing with you, what I am saying and I want this to be clear, whatever the legal position is, I will celebrate the next title whatever it may be the same way I celebrated the last one and nobody can take that from me. I will always have those memories and for me the, legally or not, the next title will be ANOTHER one. I hope I am being understood here)
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Unofficial doesnt count, does it?so get an education and stop wasting my time. Newco ed.artybhoy {Ed039's Note - Why post if I am wasting your time ya tube? You seem driven by a hatred of Rangers hanging onto the memories of titles, would it make you happy if all of them were wiped from the history books, are you a little jealous that a now defunct club is still more successful than yours? Thats the only thing I can see, I was trying to be reasonable, now do us all a favour and dont post again)
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To the poster who DOESN'T live in cuckoo land. Celtic have already sold 47,000 season books FACT. All other SPL clubs SB sales are at a all time high FACT. The SPL may not miss your club as much as you think. All the best in your fight to get back in the SPl. Hbhoy
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