Rangers Rumours Archive September 13 2011

 

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13 Sep 2011 23:29:36
News is that Sion have won their case and are travelling to Madrid expecting to play. UEFA have not yet responded! Interesting!

source ESPN

GDog

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B****cks.WSF TV have confirmed Sion will NOT be travelling.Anyway what has this got to do with Rangers?

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Sure that isn't the Swiss court news
from earlier today? Thought the decision was made at 2 today to keep Celtic in?

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14 Sep 2011 00:25:09
www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/news/newsid=1676760.html#emergency+panel+confirms+celtic+europa+league

you're either very late, or very naive to think that no-one can access information on t'interwebs

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Who cares thats nothing to do wi gers

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Lads I pulled the article from the net which was posted 1hour before I read it!! So if it's late or inaccurate then fair enough, all I can do is look and read, I did not state it as fact (like most). Of course your own source of information could be wrong have you ever considered that?

To the bloke replying b*****ks Try to remain calm in future or maybe get some anger management. You imbecile!

As for the tw*t above what the hell is your point? Am I supposed to be embarrassed about finding this on the net? Get a life you clown.

GDog

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Love it! all this in fighting whilst the bhoys and ghirls are away visiting sunny spain :) bring on beachball sunday and a 2-1 victory for the hoops :)
GBNL

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Lies.

Espn have confirmed sion thrown out confirmed. Ceptic will play.

Thank god, because in my opinion them lot playing in europa can boost our spl chances.

Lets face it for the £2m they will make, let them have it. This season only mind, a need ma trips back lol

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Madrid isn't anywhere near a beach

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GDog, what right minded Rangers fan cares about Sion. I totally agree with the earlier post. WHO CARES...........Billy

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Dont be so short sighted. celtics inclusion helps Scotland and Rangers in the co-efficiency! That's why it's of interest simple.

I wouldnt expect you to support them but you should certainly have an interest for our own sake.

GDog

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£2m are you nuts they will get double that alone just for tv money so that alone plus the experience of playing top teams makes it worthwhile. plus opens up potential january signings coming in while your players all leave.

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While celtic get millions in europe rangers will be going bust top analysts have predicted they will be going bust by november and before any t*its say this is rubbish just remmeber if they loose there case in november they will get put into administration fact {Ed014's Note - The case only starts in November,it will run for months.

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Celtic get to the nockout stage they will get 10 mil they get further its a further 5 mil all the way

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News is that you talk out yer a@se

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13 Sep 2011 22:37:47
rangers need to get rid of mccoist n get a foreign manager in that would bring a more attacking style of football to ibrox!

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What's Paul Le Guen doing now ? He might just be the man .

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Shut up & give the man till the end of 11/12 before you judge him

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What r u talking aboot were top of the league ffs anyway who would come we might not even be here by the end of the season theres more to worry about than ally?

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What is wrong with you!? Ally has us sitting top of the league with a team that hasn't even had a chance to gel properly with injuries work permits visa's etc. give the man a chance! He is a club legend! We need to give him a couple of seasons, any manager should get this at any club, and if by then things still aren't working the it would be time for a change. But regardless of how he does a our manger lets never forget what he done for us as a player!

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What I really think is we need to get rid of fans like yourself ......

Back your manager , back your team , even back your teams owner who is trying to save rangers

I think you'd be more suited supporting the other half ( if not already a closet tim)

Mattie

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Ally is a legend - simple - deserves his chance! I do think both OF teams could have a bit more experience tho

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A couple of seasons? I dont think I could bare much poor football.

Top of the league? Didnt we just get pumped out of Europe by 2 diddy teams costing us around 15-20m ?

You really need to wake up people.

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Great idea... dips**t. Lets look at some recent history. Foreign managers, Paul Le Guen and Berti Vogts need I say more. Compare that to Sir Walter, Alex McLeish and (although it pains me to say it) Strachan. Your argument is so flawed you can even look at the higher levels of the game. Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger, two foreign coaches two completely different styles (the more successful being defensive). So instead of opening your mouth and letting whatever drops out end up on this sight, try getting behind your team and a man to whom Rangers is everything

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Get rid of ally are you off your f#####g head hes hardly got started i remember when he came as a player and people wanted him out without giving him time to prove himself and prove himself he did so why dont you calm down and be what you profess to be a supporter watp

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Lol another panick merchant i see lol , seems like an old firm manager looses a game these days they r expected to be replaced . fans need a reality check these days
daviebhoy08- good luck on sunday ( HOPE WEE PUMP YOUS THOUGH ) LOL

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PAUL LE GUEN
i say no more thank you and good night

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Rubbish,advocaat along with murray put us in to debt and le guen was an insider sent to us by the vatican,im quite happy to not let this "outside" influence anywhere the champions.

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13 Sep 2011 22:31:45
Martin Bain freezes 1/2 million of Rangers' cash over 'insolvency' risk.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14905815

Oh dear oh dear!

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This should not be a problem for Mr Whyte the billionaire/Multi millionaire/ Wealthy business man only £3million ring fenced he is loaded after all?

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13 Sep 2011 21:03:36
Not a rumour- just a plain fact.

There is NO tax bill of £40mill!

HMRC believe that the RFC Employee Benefit Trust under the previous was run incorrectly.

HMRC have asked a tribunal to look at the case and decide.

IF, and it's a big if, HMRC can prove that the EBT was run incorrectly THEN they can calculate the amount of PAYE and NIC they are due.

There has been legal precedent set with regards HMRC taking firms to court regarding EBTs and they have lost them all before. See here for full judgement on one case>>>

clients.squareeye.net/uploads/pump/documents/070798_sempra-080708.pdf

Case dismissed.

I won't go on record by saying that HMRC will "win" their case, but I will state that there is no outstanding tax bill as one cannot be calculated without the tribunal ruling over where parts of the EBT were run poorly (if any parts at all.)

Can I say fact? In big letters like "FACT"

I've never done that before...

Maybe next time

daviet

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Are you for real??

the bill has been 'FACT' for a number of years now, Bain says so, 2 judges have seen the 'FACTS', Whyte even admits it!

FFS.........WAKE UP!!!!

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Interesting....

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Gosh Daviet you're so clever. I just hope someone tells HMRC's legal team of your esteemed legal opinion. They'll drop the case right away.

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Deutche bank are due to pay HMRC for EBT so you can take that as a FACT daviet take yer blinkers aff

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Oh you poor man!is this what care in the community has come to!!the poor man is in denial!keep taking the tablets,and remember always pay your taxes¡¡

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Sigh...

A "bill" has not been submitted to RFC by HMRC. There are, however, rumours that if HMRC win their case a significant sum of money may be owed- some suggestions estimate this could be £30/40mill.

Even Martin Bain's legal papers, that you can read online, do not state that the figure "IS" this... read it! Look closely at the language used...

To those that doubt the legal precedent, CLICK ON THE EFFIN' LINK!

If you want more of those decisions look here>>

www.pumptax.com/judgments/

As I've stated time and time again on here, HMRC have been trying to close this tax loophole for years as they believe companies should be paying PAYE and NIC on the benefits given.

All I'm doing is provind another viewpoint to the scaremongering that seems to be on these pages...

Am I worried about the state of my club? Of course I am! Who wouldn't be?! We have rumours of cash flow problems, an fine of £1.4mill for unpaid tax under the last regime, a tax tribunal hanging over our heads....

BUT...there is no bill!

If someone, anyone, can show me anywhere it says RFC recived a bill then I will apologise.

Let's not forget that sensationalism sells papers? Why let the facts get in the way of a good story!

Over and out

daviet {Ed001's Note - HMRC do not send out 'bills', I have been in dispute with them for over a year due to what they say was an overpayment of family credit, they have never once sent me a 'bill'. They don't even send you an invoice, just a letter saying 'this is what we tell you that you owe us and this is how to pay us', but it is never a bill or invoice. They won't even explain how they came to the decision that they made an overpayment, no matter how much you ask for an explanation!}

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Daviet, for tax expert read PLONKER!

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Aye and the whole of the Scottish press have just got thi 1 wrong. Every paper, every journalist.

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Exactly. LOL

But the fact of the matter is that RFC believe they were acting legally and HMRC think they were not- hence the tribunal.

As far as I can make out, RFC have not been asked to pay a sum of money to HMRC.

daviet

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Rangers have been billed.Tribunal is Rangers appeal.If appeal fails Club can only go back and contest points of law.These are facts.Sorry daviet and others,but I,ve said here before,burying heads in the sand won,t make HMRC go away.Things are going to get worse.Anyone owed money by club will now be demanding it immediately.Cash flow is bad now and will get worse as season goes on.Sorry to say it,but chances of club continuing in its present form are less than 50/50.Hold on for a bumpy ride.If post telling us that supporters clubs are being asked in advance for away ticket money then we can assume that as this would only bring in a few thousand a time,then things are worse than we're being told.

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"If the Revenue are successful, given the amount of the claim, it is not at all surprising that precautions have been taken to structure the deal in a way that protected the acquirer in the event of insolvency."


Daviet, you claim to be a tax expert, the rest of the Uk tax system, the press, the public all must be wrong then eh??

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There are so many morans on here it is unbelievable.

RANGERS HAVE NOT BEEN SENT A BILL!!

They are under investigation by HMRC into their operations with regards to the EBT's they used under the Dick Advocaat era.

if they lose the case, then HMRC COULD be entitled to a sum of between 30-40M (although it would most likely be settled out of court for less than that as is typically the case for football clubs as opposed to other companies)

I will say again, RANGERS HAVE NOT BEEN SENT A BILL! {Ed002's Note -

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Just a thought if Rangers asked each one of the supporters to donate £1000, there'd be more than enough to cover the proposed tax bill...

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It really does amaze me how many would be accountants and lawyers come on here to give their free advice lol.

Question to all of you who have ridiculed Daviet's comments. If there has been a letter/bill from HMRC stating a value that Rangers owe them... how did they come to this figure??. As in all cases HMRC have to prove that the payments into the EBT were liable for tax/NIC. If HMRC are successful they will then audit the accounts of the said EBT and come up with a figure.
Rangers would have received a letter from HMRC stating their intention to claim income tax and NIC from the total value of monies paid into their trust due to what they see as an abuse of the system. Rangers appealed and this action triggered every piece of speculation to date.

HMRC have now got to prove that Rangers use of the EBT was 'flawed' and they will indeed be liable to pay money owed due to these irregularities. The tribunal is set to hear BOTH sides argument.

The EBT rangers used must have covered players & directors for years think about how many people that covers for a minute then take into account what they were actually paid. HMRC have to look at every single payment in and out of the EBT to come to a figure.

Why has there never been any 2 values the same in any of the tabloids. Is it because there isnt one to quote? Each time it is reported the words ''thought to be in the region of'' appear before a figure.

Listen we can all debate/argue till November but the truth is no one apart from HMRC lawyers and David Whytes tax expert knows what the total value will be IF we loose.

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I just want to add that at NO time have I EVER claimed to be a "tax expert" as some have stated.

In fact, it is YOU who have claimed that I am a "tax expert"...

Just to clarify, I know sweet fanny adams about tax.

What I know was posted above. No tax advice was given or received- i just did some digging around and came up with what was posted.

If read in conjunction with the post below this, it makes for a much more positive view.

And as for those who believe the papers, I recall reading that Max Moseley held Nazi parties.

Sensationalism and shock sells newspapers.

daviet

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See thon FACT thing about not getting a tax bill.(FACT)

I hope that Doesn't include the £2.8 mill Minty moon beams and The Whyte Knight have said were in 2010 Rangers returns.

This is the same 2.8 million bill with 1.4 million in fees that HMRC were at court getting bank accounts last week. FACT

Or is the "Rangers haven't recieved a bill"
FACT about another Tax Bill.

Because they have recieved a tax bill FACT.

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Oh dear.

For the intellectually diminshed, can I just clarify that I was talking about the supposed £30/40mill issue.

I thought that was fairly plain?

daviet

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You're lucky, daviet, that no-one has accused you of being a Celtic fan - that's what usually happens on here to to those who post stuff others don't agree with.

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Daviet
What you must understand is that all Celtic fans have to cling. Onto these days is that one day we will go into administration.
They can't beat us on the park, so they hope to feed off our bones, just ass they are feeding off sion's bones, thrown to them by their masters at u.e.f.a.
Mr Whyte would never have bought our club if he didn't have a major plan in place, but the scaremongering media and those intellectual Celtic hordes know better than Mr whyte. Don't they.
P.s if Whyte sorts this out he should rename Murray park...whyte park, because that man had Walter and the backroom staff working without wages, whilst giving Bain all these bonuses.

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13 Sep 2011 20:47:09
peter lawell cant talk what happened to that mysterious 9m bid for ki
gav the bear

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He named the club it was some Russian mob.

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13 Sep 2011 20:42:52
just left a meeting from a supporters club in glasgow our general secretary got a phone call regarding the issue off away game tickets , it will be in the papers this week , the news is that mr whyte has asked all supporter clubs to buy there allocation in advance , please tell me what this guy is up to because he is asking us supporters to pay put a large amount off money for games that we might not be able to play in

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Explain how we might not get to play these games?

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I will tell you what hes up to... There is no cash flow and no line of credit facilty

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Because if we do not win tax case the worst senario is lower league football , im not saying that will happen but it is a big maybe

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Sure its just not league games mate ano our bus has done it in the past with a few teams , hearts ,hibs and a think hamilton last year b4 the split tae assure yer tks a think weev done it for falkirk this year as well, but how can they ask ye tae order tks for games after split keep me posted m8

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Because if we do not win tax case the worst senario is lower league football , im not saying that will happen but it is a big maybe

and u seriously think rangers will end up playing lower league football regardless of the tax case lol worst case scenario will be a 10 point deduction and with us finishing about 60 points above the bottom teams there is no chance of being relegated

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Lower League Football ? even if we go into administration which will carry a 10 point penatly .. we will probably still win the flipping league ...

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13 Sep 2011 19:54:15
We have a team full of overpaid underachievers... I agree with what Whyte wants to do and the proof is in the better teams who beat us in Europe. If you don't think they are better then you need to get a reality check.


"we got knocked out by Malmo, whose wage bill I think is £4.3m a year, and by Maribor, who have a wage bill of £1.3m.

Rangers wage bill 21 million pounds!

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3810779/We-have-to-slash-7m-off-wages.html

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You need to get a reality check..... "underachievers" 3 titles in a row mate..... and god knows how many domestic cups, when the banks ran us we wer crippled in the transfer market yet still dominated scotland, aye ok we should have the sqaud to see of the likes of malmo etc..... but the games came too early for a small sqaud thats all....

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My as it pains me to say it you were unlucky against Marabor and possibly the Malmo game was a bit early. No one really suggest they are better teams. But things like this happen in cup games.

David

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13 Sep 2011 19:39:08
Is it just me or does this not comfirm mr tight is a bull s**ter? He said there was 8 million pound worth of bids in for players what a lot of old dross, Wake up and smell the coffee is guy is running us into admin, protests should take place now or its to late, this old firm game is going mean nothing because by end of season we will be in admin 15 point reduction.

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Erm, Whyte is not running anyone into admin..... none of the HMRC cases have anything to do with Whyte. He cleared the Lloyds debt and has a team working to try sort out the current finances. HMRC stuff is out of his hands all Rangers can do is prove that there was no wrong doing in the past. 3 years the club was up for sale and someone finally bought it, even though the club is in a state, yet people are still moaning. The finger should be pointed at the past financial decisions that have got us into this mess.

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I agree with the reply. We are only NOW going to be run in the proper manner. Just because we are one of the biggest names in football does NOT preclude us from tax and prudent running. Whyte, after much pain, will turn us around! Watch out for Timmys, like the poster, trying to wynd us up...

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13 Sep 2011 18:59:33
Rumours circulating that the players are not going to get paid this Friday. Apparently some bank employee has leaked that Rangers have cancelled their BACS transfer for payment of wages. That's all that's needed with the OF game coming up.

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Who gives a s**te as long as a get ma wages a need it more than over payed footballers

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You probarbly know whats coming up but go back to the runners up page. stop your p""h rumours we will have 4 in a row because we are the people. we're top of the league and your no..

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Poster says something you don't like or agree with = must be a fan of another club. Blinkered.

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Aye 4 in a row arrestments of your bank account.

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Pics.

Or it didn't happen, as they say.

daviet

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What a lot of dross timmy!

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We have no overdraft unlike the dims and 80 million in assets! we are solvent do no admin timothy!!

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Daviet - how can you get pics of Rangers cancelling their BACS transfer. Please explain?

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Employeees of rangers get paid monthly on the 31st of each month,,, try spreadin pish thats at least half believable

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There are far too many drama queens and Chicken Littles on this site.
Begone ye of little faith!

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Even if this was true, BACS transfers are completed in 2 days so Rangers would need to pay, at the latest, late afternoon tomorrow for Friday. Mince Timmy!

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To the guy who said "Even if this was true, BACS transfers are completed in 2 days so Rangers would need to pay, at the latest, late afternoon tomorrow for Friday. Mince Timmy!"

Yes, your correct about timings of payment. But the original poster was not talking about when Rangers were making payment. He was talking about Rangers cancelling the BACS transfer, so it could have been done today or yesterday.

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Keep burying your head in the sand ,the debt is still there only shuffled around and if Rangers really have 80 million in assets why sell for a £1. Dark days ahead

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13 Sep 2011 19:04:20
boy from argentina plays full 90 mins in reserve match 4-0 win against kilmarnock goals from healy,fleck,2 own goals created by kerkar

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Do u know if he playe well nd where he player (cm,lm)
gav the bear

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Great maybe you could sell him for £53 million.

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Played cm alongside mcculloch. hope he signs for the mighty teddy bears

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13 Sep 2011 18:46:46
Who does this Martin Bain think he is?

So called Rangers fan that thinks he is worth over £1m I dont think so.

What a a*****le

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So if you got suspended from your job and but told you hadn't done anything wrong, you'd just accept it. And when your boss then appeared on TV, before he had interviewed you, and said that you were getting kicked out of your job and someone else was taking over from you, you'd be happy. NO I DIDN'T THINK SO. Bain is legally and morally entitled to seek compensation from Rangers.

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Martin Bain should remember he's partly responsible for the clubs situation he obviously is just a money grabbing b.....d no loss to the gers

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Bain.The vainest man in world football,disgusted by his actions,should never set foot at ibrox again,scumbag.

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I thought Bain got suspended then QUIT which then led to him bein replaced ??

Suspended = still get payed , quit = he left of own accord ??

Not sure if I'm right or wrong on this - please correct me if wrong (not slate me lol )
Mattie

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That verdict is very damaging to the Club, I can see a Northern Rock Happening here,. A queue of people who may be owed money By Rangers taking out injunctions against them, If the whyte has the funds to pay the Big Tax Bill he will need to show it, otherwise I think we are in reall trouble

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So you think he is worth 1.5 mil?

Ba***ks soldiers on the front line with bullets going over their head start with 16k a full year.

1.5m for getting sacked for messing up the club he works for. give him 5k as a gesture of good will.

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You are correct, Bain did resign from Rangers. However, his argument is that it was not of his own accord, it was as a result of constructive dismissal by Rangers.

Bain is certainly partly responsible for the mess Rangers now find themselves in, there is no doubt of that. This is however irrelevant in terms of the court case taken out by Bain against Rangers. It was not a consideration of Rangers when they suspended him, and which led to Bain's claim of constructive dismissal.

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If you were suspended from your job for no reason would you not want compensation? The fact is he was running a club with virtually no money and last Summer should've proven to everyone his value when it came to dealing with transfers. The guy that pulled the 'soldiers earn 16k'. Football is a business where people are over-payed not Martin Bains fault.

GovanFR

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I think we all know and believe that football IS different from any other business. Yes it answers to the same laws and should be managed like any other business and yes Martin Bain has a right to appeal, and yes again, Whyte is has balls'ed it up! BUT BAIN IS A SCUMBAG!

Some fans on here are confused with what his role was, he did not keep our club afloat he was not our saviour and he certainly did not merit his obscene wage! Sir Walter was all those things and deserved all he earned!

Bain negotiated contracts in particular at a time when there wasn't much bloody negotiating going on!

Bain, never show your face at Ibrox again.

GDog

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Just remember this was the man along with the greatest ever ranger that warned you all about whyte so far broken promises is all he has delivered

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Who is the greatest ever Ranger who warned us? Surely you don't mean Greig? He is still on the board!!!!

GDog

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Yes he is still there but him bain and johnstone all warned you that there was something dodgy about whyte on the rangers official website it was taken off within an hour and the outcome was that bain josnstone and another director were sacked i can only imagine that whyte didnt want to risk the wrath of the fans by getting rid of one of there heroes

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Bain was suspended due to his actions how many of us would still be in a job if we slated our boss in public. Sadly Bain had a period of notice in his contract which Rangers will need to come good for hence the courts only froze just over £400k of Rangers money and not £1.3 million the chancer was after.

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13 Sep 2011 17:51:57
Does anyone else think Whyte is giving advance notice to other clubs that Rangers top players are for sale in January.

The trouble is, if other clubs know Rangers want to off-load players, they'll not pay top price.

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I think it is fine to sell our players but we need to be getting good money for them. Not pennies which we have gotten in the past. If players are sold when we have to replace then with cheaper options but try to keep the quality high, which should not be hard in most cases.

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The players have always been up for sale

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13 Sep 2011 17:37:50
BREAKING NEWS CLYDE 1 SPORT 5.30P.M.

Martin Bain has won a court ruling to freeze £500k from Rangers Bank account in relation to his upcoming court action against Rangers relating to his resignation.

The Judge stated that he was satisfied that if Rangers lose the HMRC case there is a serious risk of Rangers becoming insolvent.

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Just been on stv too

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To quote Tom Jones

"It's not unusual"

daviet

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13 Sep 2011 15:51:13
Craig Whyte describes himself as a turnaround expert.

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3810811/Gers-supremo-on-turmoil-at-Ibrox.html

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He'd better be or we will be down a long and windy road but hey its rangers. it will be sorted ;) keep the faith fellow bear

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Has 30 different Companies within his holding Company, £100m annual turnover - I'd consider that an expert in his field

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Having 30 companies within a holding company with £100m annual turnover does not make him an expert. He could have suffered a loss of £200m. You need to analyse deeper before making such claims.

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Cringeworthy listening to his interviews sounds like an idiot. Says aye all the time haha. WATP

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13 Sep 2011 15:41:20
s.p.l.champions 2011/2012 and runners up.in season 2011/2012 will both enter the c,l,qualifying roonds in 2012 2013.i am sorry but this is the facts.check it out,

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Is it the last round of qualifying?

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Better hope you finish top 2 then

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13 Sep 2011 14:54:31
rangers are trying desperately to reduce the clubs wage bill and may have no option but to sell jelavic and davis in the january window. i would imagine at least one of these players will be sold. i however personally would drive steven whittaker out of glasgow. i mean 25k a week do me a favour!

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Aye that makes sense renew davis contract, reject bids for jelly and then sell them on in january. When did you get hired as the accountant for our football club? Think before ye speak

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PS, source for whyte wanting to reduce wage bill?

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Craig whyte has stated in the evening times that if the jelavic bid of around 8-9 million had been tabled weeks earlier then that would have given ally more time to spend some of that money on other targets

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Giving them extended contracts adds to their value ! Ya trumpet ! Get back to yer homework sonny, dear oh dear

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Try reading todays evening times where i quote' the wage bill has to come down to around 14-15 million'. these players were given contracts with mr whyte fully aware that they are sellable assets be it the january transfer window or next summer. i fully expect big ek to test the water in january for davis and another offer will almost certainly come in for jelavic which WILL be accepted!!

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The original post is correct, we will have to sell some players to get revenue into the club.

Also just because Davis signed a new contract doesnt mean rangers wont sell him, just means they have more control over the amount of money they can get because he is under contract, plus if you listen or read Mr Whtyes comments you will see that he says if the bid for Jelavic had come in earlier than the last day they would have considered it if they could get a replacement, so i agree i believe that Jelavic will be sold in Jan. Lets just hope he bangs in as many goals as pos and we get a good fee for him.

PS SOURCE FOR REDUCING THE WAGE BILL IS IN EVERY NATIONAL NEWSPAPER TODAY.

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IF and it is a big IF we sell jelly it will not be the end of the world.We lost Boyd and Miller and still won 3 in a row.i am sure Ally will be planning already.

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Given choice, let Jelavic go. If we are forced to sell, however, doubt 1 player will make up all the money needed.

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Please folks, Read the post correctly, he states the wage bill has to come down. He did not say with sales of players, it is just not players that get paid, there are hundreds of people employed by Rangers FC. the cuts will be across the entire workforce!!

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If you have to reduce your wage bill by £5m at a football club you don't get rid of the tea lady, the cleaner, and the bus driver. You get rid of the players earning £25k a week.

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Surely with the release of weir and the selling/release of mcculloch, edu, healy, papac and broadfoot at the eos could drop the wage bill by around 40/50k a week. Replace them in and around the 1st team with ness, hutton, mcmillan, perry, fleck, hemmings n bendiksen. Obviously one of the top players will go too (prob jelavic/davis), but that wouldnt be the end of the world. We could look to replace either of the two with an up n coming cm/fw on around 15k a week less than what they are picking up. No one is bigger than the club or worth running the club into the ground to keep.

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I think he mean s lower the wages by bringing more kids thru and the academy and stop paying over the odds on sub standerd foreigners....

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13 Sep 2011 14:43:01
sion's appeal rejected, celtic stay in

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13 Sep 2011 12:57:48
to my fellow gers fans there is no autamatic entry for winning the league ,reason is because wee went out in first qualifyer,fact

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Think you need to check up on you "facts"
s-bear

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Check your facts s.bear

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You are wrong son, the SPL winners this season DO have direct entry into next seasons CL as we are still using coefficient points from Rangers run to the UEFA Cup Final in 2008.

The Winner of the 2012/13 SPL will have to play 3 qualifiers

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See there my facts

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Yer wrong m8, it's about coeffiency points, and that is why Rangers get direct entry..................... 'Cause only the winners from Scotland will, and that will be us............... we are the Champions every season, Simples ( can't wait for Dheclans reply lmfap )

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You are only champions every year if you have a mind like a goldfish.

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Both teams will enter into the 3rd qualifying round

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No, winners enter 3rd qual rd, runners up go into 2nd round im sure, its to do with Scotlands co-ef points not the teams

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Nugget, this seasons results in Europe mean nothing towards entry into the Champions League next season. Probably yet another Timwit needing a good slap!!

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Could have been a stupid Rangers fan. They do exist, even if you don't like it.

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13 Sep 2011 12:24:17
ed, saw today that whyte wants to cut the wage budget by 7m. does that mean taking this argentine striker on traiil is a waste of time? why say u want to cut the budget then sign someone. {Ed014's Note - I hope it doesn't mean that any of our big earners will be sold and replaced with cheaper options, we need to keep what we have.}

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Off course it means selling off top players what planet are you on man

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Note to ed.Apart fae Edu,McCulloch and bombscare Whittaker. Pretty sure we could pick up players on far less money that will be far superior to those 3. {Ed014's Note - How much money will they bring in to buy replacements though?}

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Personally i'd give them away. McCulloch reallistically has no resale value at his age. Could possibly scrape together £3m combined for Edu and Whitty. Highly doubtful there are teams gullible enough to pay good money for them unless they use the same scouts we do!

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13 Sep 2011 12:12:19
sion reinstated into europa league on SSN

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No its not, they have won their case in the swiss courts but the uefa meeting hasnt finished, thats the one that counts

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Ha ha, Uefa really are havin a laugh here. You couldn't make this up.

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They've not been reinstated yet and in the court case they only heard from sion they've not heard uefa's side of it

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Surely the alleged illegal players would have to be registered with uefa before being allowed to play I smell sh*te

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No they arent. Its a local swiss court which has ruled in Sions favour.

Courts have no power over UEFA so it seems like a pointless exercise.

UEFA have upheld Sions ban

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Sion have broke uefa rules again by going to court.

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Does that make Uefa above the law

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13 Sep 2011 07:05:27
It's always good to read the nonesense that gets posted on this website. When will we go back to talking about the football and actually supporting our teams? Rangers have played in fits and starts this season but as always still winning and keeping our heads high above all the others at the top of the league (Where we should be) Others teams cans only look on in dispair as they all lack the one thing that has kept us winning season after seasin, A true team spirit. ED any news on this Argentine and do you think it would be a wise move to sign him? Fellow bears what do you think also? A couple of others we had in the past never let us done, Claudio was first class and Amato scored a few goals.

All the best for Sunday and may the best team win!
G

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He was a really good player for River Plate from about 2004 - 2008 then he started having injury problems and was being touted for a move to villarreal.

He is quick and tricky with a great left foot. I think he would give great competition for Wylde on the left.

Not sure what he would want for wages though.

McCoist did say that the prospect of anything coming from the trial is a long way away though

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13 Sep 2011 01:15:45
Ed 014 I ment tax bill nd I know we would have to pay rapid 100% but what they r saying now we owe them 0 is that true {Ed014's Note - No. The payments are up to date, there is still another instalment to be paid. Rapid Vienna just meant that there was no outstanding balance.}

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13 Sep 2011 00:37:29
Rangers HAVE paid the 2nd of a 3 payment the final payment of £500.000 left to pay if we do go into administration then we won't have to pay 100% of the bill. Celpish fans r 110% scared of the champs they spent money nd never won the title rangers did so 1 message for u celpish fans we welcome the chase {Ed014's Note - If Rangers default on any payment, for whatever reason, Jelavic's contract would be null and void as Rangers would have broken the terms of their agreement with Rapid Vienna.}

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Celpish seriously that is how immature u lot really are man
daviebhoy08

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I believe a similar siuation happened w ith a player we were linked with furing the transfer window yohan benaloune, cescana(spelling) defaulted and the player if i remember correctly went to st ettienne, correct me if im wrong

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