Rangers Rumours Archive January 15 2012

15 Jan 2012 23:47:01
Weiss will only be back at us if Ally is not the manager,,,,Ally doesn't rate him, it's common knowkedge, he said as much, so why do people still come on punting deals that can't happen.

Apart from the above, Man City would need to free him, and we'd probably offer him 3 grand a week max...

He is guff anyway no end product - have you watced him for espanyol, subbed every week

Wiess is a good player but not wat people make him out to be

He would have to pay his own wages and just because he sits in the crowd and cheers us on doesnt mean we need to sign him hes pi5h.

What and wallace and wylde do have an end product?? give me a break son, wee wiess is better than the two i mentioned put together

I would take Weiss back in a second! Hes a young Novo, he would fight and fight for the honour to wear that blue top!

CC

How easily some folk are fooled by badge kissers i cant believe you lot what a joke,

To the poster who states weiss is better than wylde and wallace put together, yes maybe he would do a little bit more than wylde but better than wallace! No chance for a start wallace is a left back so unfair to say a left mid is better than him, however he has played alot better in midfield than most of our midfielders this season and more noteablly he has given much superior performances than any other left mid in the side. If the shoe was on the other foot i do not think wylde or weiss could do as good a job at left back as wallace does in left mid, so in short terms wallace plays better in their position than either of them do in their own position. Wallace is a cracking player and i think he will only get better.

Weiss is rubbish a bit of pace thats it all he one was run into players and got free kicks for it an overrated little cheat

If weiss had been at celtic he'd have kissed ther badge instead

Agree with the post two above. wallace is a stand out performer who could be a great player in the years to come, mark my words true blues.

james rfc 1980

15 Jan 2012 22:50:10
Celik's agent has ruled out a move to Turkey and has said that he is interested at the prospect of signing for Rangers.

Rangers pulled the plug on celik when they heard his sisters name was mona.

That made me laugh Mona Celik lmao

Ahhh haha.

Banter at its best - love it !

james rfc 1980

15 Jan 2012 22:06:50
Blackpool 2 sign John fleck on loan 4 the rest of the season, rangers r fu**ing mental we r gonnie have no players left at this rate, we need players In no out!!

Fleck is not rangers class glad ta get rid

Fleck not rangers class he's twice the player mckay, edu, broadfoot, kerkar and ortiz will ever be

Starting to lose faith in ally if he cant see that fleck who can pass and retain a ball is better than a player whose only attribute is apparently his ability to run ,ffs sake he was one of our best players when he was given a chance the last couple of weeks
skyebear

But Ortiz, Broadfoot, Edu etc are?

Fleck would just get a game for Hibs. He's poor, very average.

Fleck is pi5h, don't believe the hype. If he was any good he would already be playing or sold for the money (that nobody has ever offered)

Fleck would get a game for Hibs...thats a f**** belter, because we are after O'conner, and he CAN'T get a game for Hibs.

Where does it say anything about fleck leaving for blackpool?

All you people who hound John fleck who gets 2/3 games at most then gets dropped .what do you think of our captain who continually plays s**te week in week out time ally grew a pair and started dropping players for under performing .he has bought 3 midfielders who he won't play and is playing a left back at left mid/ wing in front of two left wingers mccoist is out his depth being manager

So wee should drop steve davis for john fleck dnt be so stupid wee wouldnt have won much if wee done tht the last 3 years

Fleck is gash no where near worse than edu, time we got rid of the deadwood and if needs be play the youth instead of the s**te

I agree Fleck is totally and utterly rank rotten, never mind loan deals get rid of him he is absolutely rubbish he is not a youngster anymore he is just another guy who made it into the first team and thought he had made it as a footballer. The worst thing is he couldn't even impress me against Arbroath, now that speaks volumes, no disrespect to arbroath as they can only feild their best team but Fleck was anonymous against them for at least the first 20 mins and people want him in our first team playing SPL sides when he is out of his depth playing against arbroath. Think about it he is no use to us.

How can anybody judge Fleck when he is only getting a handful of appearances scattered over a long period of time, the boy has quality there is no doubt but the only way he is going to win anyone over is by playing games and getting match sharpness, if he is not in Ally's plans then fine let him go on loan and get some game time and come back and try and prove everyone wrong, but dont let him become another Charlie Adam, another player I always liked but nobody could see the quality player in him, because we all know what happened there ....... Big Dave

A season on loan would be good for him

Coisty obviously doesnt have plans for the player at the minute, but yes regular first team football for him beckons so hopefully he could come back with plenty to offer the firtst team

james rfc 1980

15 Jan 2012 21:54:38
John Fleck to join Blackpool on loan for rest of season.

CJM

15 Jan 2012 19:58:39
jim mccoll to be rangers new owner ,
not 100% as it is a big call ,
but the same person told me last feb
that craig white was taking over at rangers ,
iam not a tim , just a rangers fan like most who post on here ,
so please guys just take it as a rumour not FACT like some others might say
watp
doc

Wishful thinking most bears give anything for this to be right

Heard this rumour to but don't really believe it

Come on Jim, be a Gers legend!

Can't belive some of you guys are actually biting!
GCUK

He's got a similar amount of money to whyte... am i missing something?

When is this gona happen?

Dont no how true? A highly respected member of the admin team at rangersmedia is saying... Whyte is leaving us and is selling to jim mcColl who will settle tax bill.why didnt mccoll buy from murray ? Story goes mccoll wont buy murray steel so basically murray no like so whyte has been holding fort until mccoll comes, could be as early as the end of month. This guy has been spot on with info in the past!

This is a txt MSG I just received. Don't shoot the messenger

Haw

I can't believe Beechgrove Garden has made him so much money........

This ones almost as good as the Donald Trump rumour of last year. Unfortunately this isnt true, the guy whos posted this is well known for his wind ups.
Watp

James Allan "Jim" McColl OBE (b. 22 December 1951[1]) is a Scottish businessman and entrepreneur. He is responsible for the development of Clyde Blowers plc. In 2007, he was placed tenth on the Sunday Times Rich List in Scotland.[2] The Daily Record reported in November 2008 that McColl had overtaken Tom Hunter as "Scotland's richest man" with an estimated fortune of £800million

Fellow bears, I too would love to see someone else takeover at rangers and this time properly clear the debt, found out at the weekend that Ayr United have the backing of billionaire owners, am I missing something here, but surely even rangers are a bigger club than Ayr United

The text message is exactly the same rumour that was posted on here on the 10th (Just scroll down). Take it with a pinch of salt. It's a wind up from Rangersmedia, they have a thread about it on there website.

15 Jan 2012 18:56:14
Jorge Claros left for gers trial today. Poor

motagua.com/web/2012/01/15/jorge-pitbull-claros-se-fue-a-escocia/

Correct,on his way,says on his club website,he sounds very positive about trial,good luck,nicknamed the pitbull,nice,we need a bit of that,pity about his team mate Bergston.

Claros is a good player and a better midfielder than McKay,McCulloch and Fleck so give the guy a break

15 Jan 2012 18:29:40
Heard claros is cmn on trial. Does anybody know if the Honduran fw, jerry bengston is still linked with us?

Dtp89

Jorge Claros to sign on loan with option to buy in summer, which will probably happen. We are also in talks with bengston too.

Better of wi Tom fae Tom and Gerry, we r barking up the wrong trees here if we are looking at these Honduran lads, don't say look at Izaguirre of the septic as he's shizar tae!

Lets just look at free transfers ata bargain as that is all we can do i'm afraid, but that'll be enough, failing that one big player might come in, but again they will be coming o the end of there time in the EPL or that.

Izzageezers shizar? Lol even i'll admit he is a very good player and if these guys we're looking at turn out to be as good that'll do me.

Gerry The Ger.

Haha right nae bother, cheers lads

Dtp89

Aye, Izzy is brilliant. Just hope we get a decent Honduran and not a dud

Was izzy not POY by 4 seperate awards?

15 Jan 2012 17:39:14
Romelu lakaku of Chelsea has says he wants to hobon long as his chances at Chelsea are now limited. Come on Ally get on the phone to avb see how pally use really are! Any1 in agreement?

Scott

Would love to see that happen but there is no chance, he would go on loan to a smallr epl team

Not what we require at all? Would rather have Shaun Maloney FFS.

This is getting embarrising now we couldnt afford his boot lace never mind the wages get real ffs

Would be a good signing but as he has already played for 2 clubs this season it can't be done. Sorry bears

A big striker for us to punt the ball to? No thanks
Johnger

A big striker for us to punt the ball into?.... A ment to click agree, hit the wrong button lol.

Wish people would put football manager away and get back to reality. Only time lakaku will be in Glasgow is with Belgium n the qualifiers next year.

I did sign him on football manager actually :/ Muzz

Who's to say we can't get the boy on loan? If he wants first team football next season then why not?

There's too many people on here who are quick too shoot down other peoples opinion's or ideas!!!!!

TTG

Haha. we could barely afford 10% of his wages. if even tht

Lakuka has already played for two clubs this season so he cant sign on loan numptys ..

15 jan 2012 16:55:58
is the latest rumour jorge carlos is signed another example of the board picking who ally has available to pick from not wanted by the manager do the board whyte and smith intend ever to listen to what ally says

This looks like a big gamble, as in bigger than both Bedoya and Mckay?

He is coming on trial , he got shot in the head aswell it says on rangers newsnow

15 Jan 2012 15:41:44
I don't know how people say fleck on to go on loan, we have nobody on the bench.

He shud b playn coz Davis hasn't kicked his own ar5e all season. He was non existent yesterday but ally will never drop him
Johnger

I think fleck has played well in the the two games he has played and gets dumped back to the bench for players that are not playing well.with all our so called money problems its about time we gave the youth players a fair chance to show what the can do as they are the future of the club.

I thought Davis had quite a good game yesterday??

Reminds me of charlie adam he got 2 games thennout for 12 then comes back for 1 then out again.........think how that ended up./biggles

Davis had a big say in both goals yesterday... what match were u watchin?

What about davis, edu and fleck in midfield johnger ?

james rfc 1980

A watched the full match from the north stand. Alike set up 1st goal n the 2nd was a scrappy goal at best(I know they all count) edu does more in the 90mins that Davis. Apart from a threw ball for Healy I can't remember anything else he dun. Remember Davis is supposed to be our best midfielder and captain. He shows no leadership and can't dictate they play. Very overrated player and remember he never turned up until mid feb last season either. Fleck deserves his chance.
Johnger

Possibly James. A think Davis best game this season was against Motherwell when fleck played. So maybe that's what Davis needs.
Johnger

Think its all edus fault the guy is garbage, Davis doesn't trust him, lost count of the passes he misplaced

Only asking the question johnger, i was at the game on the 2nd and it was a far improved davis than in his displays prior to that game. possibly a better balance to the side with both in central role, though it would mean either papac or wallace dropping out unfortunately. but if it makes us a better threat in the final third then i would be all for it mate

james rfc 1980

Who took the quick free kick to set up the first goal ya muppet!! DAVIS

The guy who said wen fleck n davis played tht it was davis est game of the season wa spot on. fleck was playing one twos wiv davis which was getting davis to drive forward n it was gd to watch. flecks link up play was great
he deserves his chance n so does mcmillan. if they both blow it at least we wont end up with another adam or the other kida we have let go which would get a game for us now

15 Jan 2012 12:06:29
Anyone know what's happening with Carlos Cuellar?
I thought we were going to offer him a Pre-Contract in January.

What do you think of Rangers bringing back Walter Smith to give Coisty some assistance even on a part time basis in some advisary role?

theglasgowranger

Why take another step backwards? Walter wud only have us playin the same defensive way we r playin the now. Fresh ideas is what's needed
Johnger

There is far more to being a manager than just the tactical side of the game, by giving Ally some support in other areas of management by a top class manager would be beneficial in my opinion as Allys downfall is maybe being too vocal with regards to transfer targets and maybe a few words of advice from a wiley old fox would help

Theglasgowranger

Johnger: thank god theres a few of us that can see we aint moving forward.thats my worry with ally,there dznt seem to be a freshness in tactics or playing staff.aluko has done well but is in n out of games,no hutton,ness,mcmillan been used properly or given a chance n as for fleck i think we can forget it as ally must have some sort of problem there,hate to say it but the dhims are streets ahead of us in scouting n actually playing kids. average age against us was 23! we need to stop worrying about losing n just go on the attack think a clearout might be needed feel for ally but he's gotta shake things up a bit. blueforyou.

McCoist shouldn't need assisstance. He spent four years under Walter's wing, he has served his apprenticeship. He has to man up now.

I can't go about my jobs demanding assisstance from an old tradesman after completing a four year apprenticeship....I would get sacked!

It's upto Ally to pull something out the hat, if he still needs assisstance then god help us!

TTG

They are streets ahead of us because they have money to spend. I am pretty sure if Ally had money to spend then younger players would have been brought in. Ally took over the squad with hardly any players so it was a necessity to bring in the likes of Boca and Goian to add a bit of experience in defence.

TTG

Why bring in younger players when theres a bunch of decent youngsters already at the club,moulding the likes of ness,mcmillan,hutton and fleck into the squad gradually would benefit the team a lot more..watp

McCoist is a 50 yr old man who has been in football for 35 years , been no2 for 4 years and been no2 in a management team that went to a UEFA final . If he doesnt know how to manage by now he can forget it .

15 Jan 2012 01:23:48
Ally is ready to walk. He is annoyed at the lack of support from the Charlatan. He is more annoyed that the football expert Ali Russell is responsible for the appearance of the two Indian boys, who were apparently completely out of their depth. The two Hondurans were also Ali Russell's idea and McCoist wants nothing to do with them. Apparently McCoist warned Whyte that if Ali Russell wants to decide who comes and goes then he would not be there, he demanded that the interference stops immediately.

He had been promised that £2m was available and wanted Sandaza immediately. Following the ultimatum from McCoist Whyte has refused to sign Sandaza. McCoist is said to be furious. It is believed that McCoist will resign after the transfer window if no support is forthcoming. He has also been made aware that not only is Jelavic going to sold, but an agent in England has been advised that all of the first team squad are available.

And where did you hear this?

Don't think so Timothy

I ain't no Timothy and I have been a season ticket holder for 40 years and I heard this from a very well known supporter

Oh n who would that be then?? Reveal yet source!!

Ally would never walk away from the champs. Get a clue!

I hope your right about Ally walking, he is completely out of his depth, remember Europe beating by 2 pub teams, also his style of football is terrible, we have a team lacking football players, give me any manager that at least plays open attacking football, and the last thing how come Fleck was dropped again he is one of the better players we have at the club, and he get dropped, and we have 2 left backs, I really hope there is truth in this and you head back to London along with Sue Barker on Question of Sport, that's your level, oh and by the way take your backroom staff with you

Even if your claims are true, when you can`t, or won`t, name a reputable source to support your assertions, you leave yourself wide open to ridicule (as we have already witnessed).

If as it has been said Ally has no say who is coming and going, well what man would not say stick it. Mr Whyte then better be warned, big John walking then Ally. At present Whyte's got a 55% support from the fans. If Ally did walk it would be 10% .

Scaremongering or not, I personally could believe this. Something isn't right at Ibrox.IMO Whyte doesn't want Ally as he is not his man.

There is undoubtedly a boardmember(no name mentioned) who is interfering in allys job which has unsettled coisty. this has been mentioned constantly on two radio stations who are claiming that at least 1 of the 3 signings ie. bedoya, mckay and ortiz was out of allys control along with the two indian boys! i wish they would have more faith in our manager!

Knowing how to get a team playing and who to buy is the way for a manager to be successful not being told by a board member and his yes man mr smith this is who you,ll play and who you,ll sign for this price

I also have heard that ally is getting fed up with mr russell interfering in the football side of thngs but the problem is whyte listens to him 100%.apparently words were exchanged about the two indian boys,and mr russell has questioned all the bodies in the coaching staff.cant see ally walking but he's got his own credibility to think about.be wary of smith,a very smooth operator but all in the cause of his own agenda which is gordon smith! blueforyou.

Be honest Bears, would you give Ally money? He buys garbage on the whole, tactically strange decisions and this constant talking to the press about who we are going to sign (and dont) is driving me mental. Its Rangers Ally not Cowdenbeath

Im sure i recall Martin Bain being hevily involved of sourcing players in the past when mcleish was in charge. Celtic do this too and is all about taping into emerging markets to increase revenue. The difference here it appears is the board sem to be trying to sell players behind the managers back

Don't talk s**t! And if any of the extra comments about hoping Ally does walk are from real Rangers fans, then get a grip! You's are no real fans, ya bunch of idiots! WATP

I would defo give ally money. Do u not think there is a reason for talking to the press about transfers?. IMO he is trying to distance himself from Whyte and Russell in saying i have targets and want to buy players but i am getting no support from the board.

As far as i remember Ally and the coaching team only have contracts till the end of this season?. Will they be offered new deals?.

CJM

Could mccoists public airing of transfer targets be the only means he has of hoping to embarras the board into providing him with transfer money? Maybe he wants the fans to react and ask what the hell.is going on at rangers

I hope your right about Ally walking, he is completely out of his depth, remember Europe beating by 2 pub teams,

so walter smith never lost to kaunus then? another pub team, over the years all our managers have lost to pi5h in europe so i wouldnt say mccoist deserves the sack based on the european games

Could it just be a lack of experience or the fact that coisties too honest for his own good, either way he must keep all his work inhouse. as for giving ally money, we will never know until he is given chance. yes he has made a few suspect signings but lets be honest the poor guy has both hands tied behind him. as a rangers supporter i'm slightly embarassed at some of the players i see playing for the team i love however they will still get my full support regardless!

As a rangers supporter i dont get all this sir walter nonsense. the football under smith was as exciting as watching paint dry and allys style is just as boring. i REALLY fear for rangers in the next few months(on and off field). we are gonna drop more points cause the team just is not good enough which leads onto my question, if we lose the title having had a 15 point margin, being knocked out of europe and the cup by mediocre teams- will ally get a second bite at the cherry? i for one hope not! us rangers fans have been crying out for a style of football to at least keep us awake.

I agree Rangers players and coaching staff deserve full support. Ally and Durrant are both rangers fans and everything they do is in the interest of the team. Fans have to be realistic and realise money is not available this has been said for the last few seasons and has got gradually worse.

At the same time though I think pressure should be put on Whyte and board members to come clean about what's going on.

The previous manager spells out the state of the club finances in this interview at the time of his departure.

www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/15/walter-smith-rangers

'The football under Smith was more boring than watching paint dry'

Aye whatever. Brian Laudrap, Paul Gasgoine, Marco Negri... need I go on?

Anyway, it's school tomorrow, should you not be in bed?

All of which cost big money. he flopped in europe and on the whole is a defensive minded(negative) manager. this is the entertainment business and us gers fans are taken for granted. as a football person i wouldnt pay to watch the rubbish being served up at ibrox