Rangers Rumours Archive July 19 2012

 

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19 Jul 2012 22:20:16
Craig Beattie has just landed back from South Africa tonight....he spent five days there, was offered a deal but didnt fancy the move.
He ''will'' play for Gers in div 3, if he gets the call, but has an offer from a championship side and three lge 1 teams...cant expect him to wait for ever.

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19 Jul 2012 22:09:43
ed mate when do we found if we get this 12 year transfer ban? {Ed052's Note - Hopefully tomorrow mate.its dragging on and on

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I think the embargo will stand, I know its crazy but the SFA have all the aces. If the SFA alter their decision they would set a precedent, and never be out of court arguing over decisions.

Anorak.

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If the transfer ban is upheld I can't see Rangers playing anywhere, you need a team to play. Anyone who thinks Scottish football can survive without Rangers are living in an alternate universe.. Buck up SFA what's the point of flogging a dead horse. See sense!

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12 year! Even i think thats harsh!........green jhedi

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Sorry lads i meant a 12 month transfer ban haha {Ed052's Note - I didnt even notice that mate lol

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19 Jul 2012 21:50:50
Deepest sympathy to Claudio Reyna and family.Just heard of his son losing his battle with cancer.Truly tragic...........green jhedi {Ed052's Note - Shame :(

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Hi jhedi i see someone disagreed with you ,i wonder if that person would like to post why doug t.s.o

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Just heard aswell thanks for that green jhedi at least we can all agree on some things in life...RIP wee man....

Tam-Sir 1873 My heart goes out to the original Captain America and his family at this time..

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Horrendous news.absolutely gutted for the Reyna family,the poor little lad had his whole life ahead of him.Rangers are a family and we all,as one stand right behind you Claudio.
drumlad

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Words fail me when you see pond life pressing disagree buttons at a sad time like this . Heartfelt sympathy for Reyna family ......DH

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Celtic fan here shocking news all the rangers family will help him threw.shame on the disagree person may you rot.
All best

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Well said GJ.
Condolences to Claudio and his family.
Sad news lke this put's a lot of things in life into perspective.
P.O.B.

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I'm an Aberdeen fan. I voted agree. Whoever voted disagree is a moronic w@nk and waste of vital organs.

Thoughts with you Claudio, sad day for you and your family indeed

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Really sad news ...... But thanks for letting us know green jhedi - you can be a wind up merchant we all know, but one of the good guys

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Deepest sympathy to Claudio and hos family, cant even start to imagine how they feel just now, R.I.P. wee lad

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I see there are some sick individuals clicking the disagree button on the claudio reyna story about his son losing his life to cancer ive had a few friends die this year to this disease those that clicked that how karma can come back and bite you on the @rse and i hope it does you sick mindless people this is a child that's died (gstar drumchapel)

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November 25 2001. Claudio Reyna Handing over the Bobby Murdoch award to Tommy Donnelly of the the New York CSC at Celtic park . An absolute gentleman. In our thoughts.

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Just heard this tragic news puts football in it's true light, it is just a game. Thoughts and prayers go to him and his family. maccabhoy

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Whats wrong with these people that r disagreeing with these comments for gods sake a 13 year old boy lost his life . the team u support should,nt matter at a time like this .(rip jack )

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Football takes a back seat in times like this really sorry to hear the bad news deepest simpathys for the reyna family good to see real football fans of rangers and celtic commenting it gives us hope for the future sad bear

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I also lost a family member to this disease took me years to still get over it i know how the reyna family are feelng just now keep strong the reyna family god bless

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19 Jul 2012 20:02:43
hi ed is the celtic rumours site edited by same editors or some of the editors ,,it looks like for like to me doug t.s.o {Ed052's Note - Not sure I only concentrate on my own team mate.

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Hi ed yes i would have thought that ,i dont normally go onto anyone elses teams site but i noticed guys that post on here like marco 1888 and stevo are on their own site too where they should stay doug t,s,o {Ed039's Note - Ed007 is a Celtic fan and is the lead Ed on the Celtic site, some of the other Eds do help as well)

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The reason i posted the original post was ,on this page was links to other sites ,not that im interested in what celtic have to say ,its bad enough reading some of their posts on here doug t.s.o

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I have to agree Ed, there seems to be a large amount of Celtic fans making comments on the this site. Now, where I welcome the banter and appreciate its a rumour page for anyone to participate in, it sometimes doesn't feel like a Rangers rumour page as there are often more comments from the usual suspects from the Celtic page on here than Rangers fans comments. I can honestly say that would not be the reverse if you looked into it. Just think this site should be focusing on rangers comments from rangers fans with a little banter from all others. Not the opposite. But just my opinion. Would be interested to see how others think. Thanks anyway Ed if you post. Doing a good job for our site. J {Ed052's Note - A do agree with you on the amount of post from the other side. You will notice the difference in the next couple of days. And when we get this licence sorted out we can start talking about football hopefully.

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Doug,you must lead one sad lonely life if thats what bothers you.Post on rumours,not the banter site if your so irked.........green jhedi

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Doug. Ther's nothing wrong with posting on the other site.
I used to post more on there than i did here, because we never had a Rangers supporting Ed at the time. At least Ed007 would post the arguments for and against the posters you mentioned. Previous non Gers and English Ed's never used to post our side of things on here.
It's better on here now that we have a fellow Bear editing.
It's enlightening when por resident "Timmy's post something on here then post the complete opposite on their own site.
P.O.B.

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As a rangers fan debate is always welcome even from other fans i like to hear the different opinions free speech is a good thing one of the last things we have for free in this country some comments can be a laff too

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It is not that more Celtic fans are posting on here it is a fact that fewer Rangers fans have the heart to post anything. As every rumour that is bad comes true and all that are good turn t1ts up. Now where is this licence SFA we don't have time to wait every hour is vital now.

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19 Jul 2012 19:31:45
Is Andrew Little and Salim Kerkar
staying at Rangers? {Ed052's Note - As far as I know the 2 players are still with the club

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Kerkar has went on trial with charlton to there training camp abroad.... source SS website. andy little is still in scotland, according to his twitter page.
BALLYBOY

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And Salim Kerkar has walked away as well...apparantly although not confirmed

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Kerkar is at charlton training with them with the hope of getting a contract

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Although reverting to old contracts, the new Rangers simply cannot afford these guys.
the rangers have to live within its means and unfortunately the fans ain't contributing.

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Fans aren't contributing. By this r u referring to season tickets? Call the rangers ticket hotline and try and buy a season ticket! They ain't selling them until they has a sfa licence. When they do, I and many bears with buy a season ticket. Watp

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Thats nonsense as i got mine 3 weeks ago and 1st months installment put back in my bank until they figure out prices fact

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I have been looking on the website to buy two season tickets and they are not available yet, but they will be bought as soon as, east enclosure if i can get them

JG

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19 Jul 2012 19:53:44
Are the rumours true?

Is Little signing for Carlisle?

Is Kerkar signing for Charlton?

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19 Jul 2012 15:57:49
anyone heard anynews on this de laurentiis guy heard on the radio this morrning that he was going to put a bid in and hes like ment to be a millionaire? ed you heard anything bud? {Ed052's Note - read a Few story's mate. But nothing major

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Well its comng from Giovanni di Stefano so presumably his wealth is 'off the radar'.

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Heard that the Italian press is buzzing with this story,if its the same guy didnt he buy Napoli when the were in trouble a couple of years ago? Look where they are now,hope this rumour comes true...

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Just googled alfredo di stefano ,hes 86 now ,what a player id the privilege to see doug t.s.o

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What does alfredo di stefano have to do with Rangers

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Nothing ,but he played against gers ,but then again you might not appreciate a world class player ,the original query was to see if there was any link up with the surname ,do you have a name ? well put it on the next time you post ,thats if you can spell it doug t.s.o

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ED- you never put my posts online, im from stockport my dad from norn iron and mum falkirk, my heritage is red white and blue, regarding this post alfredo di stefano is 64 years of age!! Giovanni di stefano has no chance of taking us over, however is it not true that alfredo will have to sell napoli to put a bid in for us? {Ed052's Note - as i have said to others there are 1000 post a hour on here. when theres 15 posts regarding the same story its crazy putting all of them on so we only put a couple on. if you would like to post it again i will post it on. Anyone who owns a club can only own 1 at a time. Unless there is another way round it im not sure.

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19 Jul 2012 16:13:29
D&P have delivered there report to Lord Hodge in respect of the "conflict of interest" accusation by the BBC.

Lord Hodge will respond on return from his holiday sometime during August.

Source: BBC

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Gives us a chance to progress the talks with SFA. If we are liquidated then it would be a new company applying. R-M.

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19 Jul 2012 15:51:42
i know its very early days but is there any idea who might win the bid (if there is one) for the rights to show rangers matches away from ibrox. I hope it isn't sky because i jusst cancelled my bloody sports package when they got dumped in div 3!!

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I have heard CBEEBIES might jus
t be a rumour. {Ed039's Note - Hilarious)

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Most SFL teams tape the games and show their own mini highlights by streaming them on their website.

With the structure and rules of SFL, any TV deal would need to be shared amongst all 30 clubs and not kept to just New Rangers or even Div 3 teams

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19 Jul 2012 17:59:29
it said in the paper today that rangers are still targeting fran sandaza? so see if the ban is lifted i take it we will go for sandaza+black+beattie.

Ed you heard anything on this mate? {Ed052's Note - the sandaza one is just the papers talking crap . I wouldn't rule the Ian black one out though

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Nobody has shown any interest in black for free,says it all really. {Ed052's Note - I think Ian black would be a great player for us especially in div 3

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They are not signing now mate but i heard they are after a Swedish player Henry Clarson any news ED. {Ed052's Note - Lollol

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What chance do we have of signing some of melchester rovers players lol doug t.s.o

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19 Jul 2012 16:09:02
The hits just keep coming!

Rangers have suffered another blow following the news that striker Kane Hemmings is facing a lengthy spell on the sidelines.

The 21-year-old picked up his third serious knee injury at the start of July while training at Murray Park and could be out until the end of the year.

His absence is certain to hit boss Ally McCoist's plans as Rangers prepare for life in division three of the Scottish Football League.

In a statement on the club's official website, Hemmings said: "It's really frustrating to have had to go through another operation and it's annoying that I'm going to be out for so long again.

"I felt good going into pre-season but then the problem flared up in the first couple of days and the surgeon said I needed surgery again.

"It's up to me now to make sure I work hard in my rehabilitation and get back to the level of fitness I would like to be at.

"I still feel I can get there, even after all the problems I've experienced, and I'm grateful to the club for giving me such welcome support throughout my injury problems."

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6 months of salary and treatments expense for zero 2012 games. Green said he was in it for the short term, perhaps under a year, Green might be gone b4 he ever sees this kid play.

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A young lad think its ryan hardie stays street up from me in stranraer scored a wad of goals for youth team big lad give him a chance in divison three seen a lot of that league and if ure a pacy foward ul get a wad of goals

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What kind of post is this ,a young lad think its ryan hardie stays next street to me you either know or dont

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Pity cause lads like this really will have a chance to shine this season for the Gers.

Just hope he has been properly insured during the chaos.

BARNEY BEAR

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Not a Rangers fan, but #3 is the kind of thinking that all Scottish football fans will support.

Give these boys a chance!

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U have to wonder what they do at murry park another ger out with knee probs u never hear man u players dun in year on end with broken legs and so on gers docs are the worst in the world {Ed039's Note - Anderson? Fabio? Vidic? Gary Neville not chronic? Tom Cleverly)

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19 Jul 2012 15:23:42
Any truth in the rumour that the Timmothys may be looking at Dorin Goian? Surely a better offer out there for the big guy...

All rumours aside...are we really going to be competing anywhere this season?

Bear void of hope!

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ED - Any idea when the sfa are going to decide if we play next season or not? Thought they would have made a decision by now? Who am I kidding of course they wont have.

Gers1986 {Ed052's Note - can only hope its by the end of this week so we can get things moving

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Wouldnt get a look in the celtic team. did you see his form in the 2nd half of the season. hes a poor mans loovens.

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DORIN GOIAN has put pen to paper on a two-year deal with German side Eintracht Frankfurt.

From evening times.

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Evening paper reports goian signed two year deal with eintracht frankfurt.So the timmy rumour mill fails again.R/R

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No he,s signed for eintract frankfurd 2 year deal m8.

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What Timmy rumour mill ? We wouldnt want him If he paid us.

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I have to agree witn the declan's, he looked the b*llocks at the start but his lack of pace started to show and he is no good when someone runs at him. He just fouls them and takes a booking. Not a great player IMO. decent big stopper.

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A lot more decent than the sh!te they got at the back right enough, but then you hardly need to be Franz Beckenbauer to check that particular box do you.

Wouldn't surprise me remotely if the lemon had hoped to sign him. He has even fewer ideas than he has class.

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19 Jul 2012 15:03:51
..."If the 54-times Scottish champions are granted a licence to play by the SFA, their first game since the club's transfer to a different company will be a week on Sunday" History remains.. Rangers website

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Honestly FFS mate.

The club went into administration, creditors wouldn't accept what we had to offer. The CVA was then rejected at that point there was no going back. Liquidation was confirmed.
We lost our SPL membership; SFA membership our player and our history.
Can't have the good without the bad.
Ie debt free with no history!!
Take what Green is saying if you want but all he has got to offer us is like the other folk are saying a brand , a franchise of Rangers.

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All the history and tradition that we’ve been desperately trying to preserve would be just swept down the drain. [If CVA is rejected and Rangers are liquidated]"
Charles Green, 09.06.2012

We wish the new Rangers Football Club every good fortune.
Sir Smith of Walter. 19.06.2012

I am disappointed and angry that Rangers Football Club no longer exists in its original form.
Steven Naismith, 24.06.2012

The degradation of Rangers as an institution – which for many years regarded itself as part of the Scottish Establishment – will reach its nadir on Thursday when the only surviving proposal to bring the stricken club out of administration is formally abandoned and the process of liquidation begins.
The decision was forced by Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs after a change of attitude by the taxman which spells the end of the continuity so prized by Rangers supporters, whose club was founded in 1872 and became a limited company in 1899.
At the final Old Firm game of the season last month, the Ibrox chorus of ‘We’re Rangers till we die’ was met with the Celtic support’s response of ‘You’re Rangers till July!’ Even that estimate turned out to be over-optimistic – and the final whistle has sounded on 140 years of history with Tuesday’s announcement.
The Telegraph, 13-06-2012

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Which means all sanctions apply as well, you can't have it both ways....

Bill

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So far you been told (1) YOU KNOW LONGER HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE NAME ... (2) YOU NO LONGER OWN THE PLAYERS (3) YOU NO LONGER OWN THE SPL SHARE (4) YOU NO LONGER HAVE AN SFA LICENCE AND (5) AS OF YET YOU NO LONGER ARE APART OF ANY FOOTBALL LEAGUE so what makes you think you get to keep the history ?? how come everything else went with the liquidation apart from that one thing ?

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Matter of opinion really, it does say club has transferred company (old company liquidated). i'd rather accept sanctions (to an extent) and keep the history, but either way its still the same rangers and no1 will forget what we've won

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Regardless of what anyone says if the sfa transfer rangers membership then we are still rangers.

the punishments that will also transfer are the cost of our history.

if we are to be punished for what rangers did then we're rangers.

even the dullest celtic fans can understand that

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If you think the papers you freely quote are the guardians of truth and facts then you're clearly deluded. You're only reading what you want to read. I could give you lots of examples of stuff that been printed recently that's either loaded with anti - Rangers bias or just plain boll##

Steven Naismith elected to rob the club he is supposed support to line his own pocket. Perhaps if he had been truthful and told us he was doing it for his own monetary gain rather than glossing over it and making up excuses I might give that a bit more credence.

Now as i've said many a time recently here, if you think Rangers don't exist, please stop obsessing over it and go and find something better to do with your time.

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How are Rangers debt free if they have to pay off old football debts (to get a licence from the SFA)?? They are the same club, different trading company. If we are a new club why are Celtic fans so interested in us?

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Of course the History is kept!! apart from ant titles, or cups that are removed from that history, over the EBT situation! The history is kept, by Glasgow Rangers FC, who we are no more! our next trophy will be our first, I wish you guys would get this into your heads! Our history as Glasgow Rangers FC, will be surpassed eventually, but as the Newco, we can create our own! WATP! We can even win something the Tims have'nt won, The Ramsdens Cup!

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Everyone knows for several unchallengeable reasons that new club has no history. No football commentator will acknowledge it or they will be ridiculed.

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There was no such team called glasgow rangers f.c it was always the rangers f.c

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Rangers are UNSEEDED in Scottish Communities Cup because the club has zero footballing history to be seeded. There's quite rightly no footballing continuity. FIFA and UEFA don't accept any history.

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The celtic fans are s**tting themselves ,cos they know we,l be back again and overtake them ,business as usual at the stadium ,doug t.s.o

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Good history and bad history, forget it. more concerned about the future

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Tooo much of this history is being blown out of proportion we have a new club to rebuild

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19 Jul 2012 14:47:42
SCLC FIRST ROUND - SATURDAY 4TH AUGUST 2012

30 Teams - 15 ties

(15 Seeded Teams)

Dundee
Falkirk
Hamilton Academical
Livingston
Partick Thistle
Raith Rovers
Morton
Ayr United
Queen of the South
Cowdenbeath
Arbroath
Dumbarton
Airdrie United
Stenhousemuir
East Fife
(15 Unseeded Teams)

Forfar Athletic
Brechin City
Albion Rovers
Stirling Albion
Alloa Athletic
Queen’s Park
Stranraer
Elgin City
Peterhead
Annan Athletic
Berwick Rangers
Montrose
Clyde
East Stirlingshire
Rangers

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Ha ha celtic have a champions league draw and sevco have this draw . {Ed052's Note - Go you take a draw of a fag and settle down

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19 Jul 2012 14:31:49
Scottish Communities League Cup First Round Draw will take place tomorrow, Friday 20th within Ochilview Park, Stenhousemuir at 12.30pm

Alex Salmond will conduct the Scottish Communities League Cup.

Rangers are unseeded.

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30 Teams - 15 ties

(15 Seeded Teams)

Dundee
Falkirk
Hamilton Academical
Livingston
Partick Thistle
Raith Rovers
Morton
Ayr United
Queen of the South
Cowdenbeath
Arbroath
Dumbarton
Airdrie United
Stenhousemuir
East Fife
(15 Unseeded Teams)

Forfar Athletic
Brechin City
Albion Rovers
Stirling Albion
Alloa Athletic
Queen’s Park
Stranraer
Elgin City
Peterhead
Annan Athletic
Berwick Rangers
Montrose
Clyde
East Stirlingshire
Rangers

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How can you disagree with this post ? Is it not taking place tomorrow ? Is Alex Salmond not making the draw ? {Ed052's Note - Just doughballs mate pressing it to annoy people

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19 Jul 2012 13:16:19
De Laurentiis to invest in Rangers?

17/07/2012 19:15 to Naples Magazine
Source: Parliamocidicalcio

Objective: Invest in Scotland, briefing in place. Mission: To return a big club to its former glory. Location: Scotland. Objective: Rangers Football Club

The Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis, is considering the idea of buying a club abroad. The choice of the filmmaker is on the historic Scottish club of Glasgow Rangers, Scotland, holder of 54 titles, 33 Scottish Cups, 27 Scottish League Cups and one Cup Winners' Cup, making them the team with the most titles in the world. However, there have recently been financial woes that led to bankruptcy and winding up on June 14, 2012. After the company was forced to start from the fourth division, there has been a mourning from the whole football world on the importance of the club.

De Laurentiis has indicated his intention to export the Napoli model abroad and is considering the transaction costs. The idea is to renew and follow the experience with the Rangers, recorded by a court to the tune of 25 million euros, and return the Rangers to the top flight in a few years. Not only is it the the same project and the same aspiration, but there is also another point of contact with the past: Edy Reja, the man who dragged the Napoli from Serie C to Europe, is interested. Can he implement and succeed with this in the land of kilts, bagpipes and sea monsters?

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He's "considering". Yeah I'm considering....eh don't have the dosh, oh well I did think about it.

Another publicity seeker.......

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Seemingly Laurentiis is a major sharholder in Ticketus and a close friend of Craig Whyte and Charles Green.

Probably just a coincidence, no worries.

Anorak.

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How many journalists and tims are now googling that name looking to try and uncover some unsavoury past on the guy

This frenzy has gone well beyond rivalry now and must end

JG

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Is it the movie producer? If so, he has the dollar. CheltBlue

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Celtic have 2 billionaires on their Board, who don't put much money in.
What makes you think Laurentis would be any different.
There's no money in football, unless you are getting English Sky money.

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19 jul 2012 12:01:28
dont want to put a dampner on anyones day but if true what im hearing from a very close mate ,2 of the names on the ebt list that has not came out yet is dallas and thompson if true this is very very bad and that is comming from a blue to the bone that has been right on most things from his source scary

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Rubbish.... I'll eat a 200 deck of Cigs covered in cat milk if true. {Ed052's Note - lol

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I heard same rumour from a serving police officer. Thought it was mince but keeps coming up.

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So it looks like the sfa are also gulty of using dual contracts under the same rbts they are trying to crucify Rangers over. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Ozzie Al

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I heard the same thing a week ago from a relative of mine that works in the Strathclyde Police force, apparently that rumour is doing the rounds there too....can of worms opening up sooooon.
Police investigation will bring all things to light.... {Ed052's Note - what a load of mince

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I am a celtic supporter and dont believe anyone would be that stupid.

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Sorry can not believe one ounce of this, as much as Dallas is an idiot - only the man above knows how he is admired by UEFA !
As for Thompson, assuming this is , sorry no chance whatsoever of this ever being true.

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Ozzie, the implication is that they were in Rangers EBTs, not SFA ones.

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I hear Willie Collum, Stuart McCall, Terry Butcher, Jimmy Calderwood, Jim Jefferies, Neil Doncaster, David Taylor, Santa Claus, the easter bunny and the tooth fairy will all come out as recipients of EBT's from Rangers......
J1985

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Thats one of the best rumours ive heard on this site jesus christ man don't you think every newspaper and news media in britain would be all over this story like a cheap suit i'm sure it's been started by some celtic fans haha thats made my day brilliant (gstar drumchapel)

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That would be no great surprise.

Probably explain it as professional fees for advice given.

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Thanks mate it was a tongue in cheek comment. Jeez where do they come up with them Good to get such a good belly laugh after all the negative crap though.

Ozzie Al

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Ed: I prefer tatties with my mince, I guess only time will tell....it is only a "RUMOUR" after all....watch this space though, I might be back to see who was correct.

Bill {Ed052's Note - So you wont be back then lol

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The actual description in the MIH annual accounts relating to Rangers and EBTS was " OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS".

No one outstide RFC, D&P and MIH know who or what lies behind that description.

This will be disclosed when BDO do their digging.

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This rumour came out about 4 months ago but names of the referees were not mentioned.

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Dallas was admired by UEFA?
Really, didnt know that.
Then again Dallas didnt referee any Rangers games in UEFA competition.
Maybe thats why?

Dallas was not admired in Scotland.

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Heard this rubbish months ago, just like the ones about certain journalists being given EBTs by Murray.

Murray has been proven to be stupid, even probably agreeing to implement dual contracts but surely he wouldn't have been just this stupid!

BARNEY BEAR

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Dallas wasnt admired by celtic fans who didnt trust him to be impartial after they'd assaulted him and attacked his house.

for this he was hounded from his job.

he settled with the sfa out of court and took up a plush position in uefa.

seems celtic fans still want to trash him

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Remind me who sportingly panned hugh's windows in at his family home, and they have the nerve to talk about integrity!!

JG

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Don't you think if we were going to bribe referee's we might just possibly, consider a payment mechanism that wasn't clearly stated in the annual accounts?

The people who believe this nonsense are worse than the ones who create it.

Maybe Rangers were just paying for their windows to be replaced.

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I dont believe in the EBTs , Dual Contracts or the Gers going into Liquidation.

Its all Timmy propaganda. Fact

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19 jul 2012 11:58:33
rangers first game in the cup if it goes ahead to be shown on bbc alba in

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Thought wed get sat at three games back but looks like counsel telly wants us can c the loyal support drifting away

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Hope its on RTV as well if not im looking for skype video call to Mr A Bear with Alba tv
i watched our games on skype video for two seasons before my internet was good enough for RTV streaming

JG

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19 Jul 2012 11:04:27
Read this and thought what a joke, these people are really starting to take the p*ss, stripped titles and now:

Meanwhile, the bidding for SFL television rights should start at £1million – that’s according to Elgin City chairman Graham Tatters.
Rangers will start life in the bottom tier against Peterhead on August 11.
There is interest to screen the first match from three media companies but a deal must be struck for the benefit of all 30 clubs.

Would elgin v peterhead attract the same interest??

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Doesn't matter if it does. SFL TV rights not Rangers TV rights.

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Good news though, BBC Alba confirmed as showing the Brechin v Rangers game.

Commentary should be interesting, but wonder how many p*** heads won't notice anything different.

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No it wouldn't but lets not start getting into the old way of thinking again. If our fan base is as large and as loyal as we all think, then that will get us back to the SPL.

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I see nothing funny or unusual about SFL negotiating TV rights for SFL teams.

Anorak.

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More bare faced lies in reply 6, Rangers lowest average attendance ever was in the order of 25000, and was in the old premier league not the first division. If you are going to come on here and pretend to be a gers fan try to get the basics right because youre fooling no one but yourself.

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If its on Alba will Rab McGlinchey or John Brown be signing for the neds ?

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Rangers av attendance in 83 was 17000 inc a 4500 against st mirren i doubt it will be anywhere near that next year or next year when the glory hunters realise just how long getting back to the spl will take

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Could be quite the reverse as genuine rangers fans will come out in force to support whatever team we put on the park, be warned though this is the only way back!

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19 Jul 2012 10:23:40
I have a sneaky suspicion that all Charles Green is doing is being seen to make the "right moves" whilst in the spotlight, with his dialogue to the SFA, to UEFA etc.

It's all PR.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the end, our new club is wound up and has the same fate as our previous club.

There's no way as a 3rd division club we could repay £3m to all the clubs the old rangers owed and that whilst trying to meet the operating costs of Ibrox and Murray Park and attracting a calibre of player that will garauntee us successive promotion.

There's no way this is going to get off the ground.
Rangers as we know them were consigned to a hospital bed on 14 / 02, on a life support if you like and then on the 12 / 06 that life support was turned off.
A CVA was the only way of keeping the old club, it's players, it's membership in the SPL, membership with the SFA and everything we ever associated with Rangers.

All the Charles Green is trying to do bears is to get us to buy into the "brand" of Rangers, that of a team in blue playing at Ibrox.

There's no way that we can be sustained in the SFL.

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't kick a ball. Ever.

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?? no way to pay £3m, but ibrox is worth £50 mill on a bad day according to your directors... ?

I dont understand logic here... ?

Sell ibrox (if they own it ??) and lease it back ? You would get £20 mill in hand, with £2 mill per year, thats still £18 mill up ?? does assume you own the asset to sell it of course.. ??

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Sell to who? they struggled to get a bank account never mind finding a finance house willing to lend up to £50m, be serious!

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Well we have already kicked a ball. If teams like Peterhead and Berwick can survive so can we.

We cut our cloth to meet our needs. I firmly believe that once this Journey begins more will buy into it with TV companies already doing so.

Lets forget about the Rangers of the Champions League, we are Rangers of the 3rd Division, with a fan base only equalled by Celtic. We only need the calibre of player to get through each sesaon. Approx 1/4 of a million per week has left Ibrox wage bill, replace this year with around £30,000 a week tops. Saving of Approx 10 million a year.

Biggest expenditure of every buisness is staff.

Dont fight the system, use the system.

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Your figures might stack up save for the fact that CG would be rather keen to make many, many millions in PROFIT which would be taken OUT of the business. He's not in it as a philanthropist, suggest a visit to specsavers, this time not going for the rose-tint.

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It really depends on how many season tickets are sold and for how much, its stricly a numbers games for CG.

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There is no doubt Rangers will lose money in the SFL, how much is the big question and will CG bankroll these inevitable losses.

It seems there is no unity with the fans and that makes for an unknown outcome.

Time will tell.

Anorak.

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Before we had Murray's millions our average gate was not a lot.
Season 83/84 our average was 5,566.
That was us in the old first division, we are now in the bottom tier.
The days of 20,000, 30,000, 40,000, 50,000 bears are gone.
A lot got one the gravy train when we were winning (might turned out that it was winning ultimately through fielding players we couldn't otherwise afford without the aid of EBT's!)

250 season books?!?
Even with a bit of momentum in sales we're going to be worse than we were before 9IAR and the 5 leagues we won in the naughties!
The balloon has burst.

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50% of the Club is going to offered to the fans as share issue.

He must be expecting over 3 mill for that??

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We should of course keep the old tradition of 'for every penny that they spend, we will spend ten' !

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40.000 fans at £250 10 million in. 25 man squad paying them between 1000 to 4000 grand a week should intrest the players we need to get out the sfl divsions keep the wage bill below 3.5 mill add shirt sales ect we should be fine in 3 years

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Do the sums.

If Mather and Sir Guy are getting 10% for £1m then total pot is £10m.

£5.75m of this to be paid to D&P on the 31st(?) July.

That leaves £4.25m.

£500k loan for working capital to D&P(they say it's not a loan)

That leaves £3.75m.

PAYE/Ni due this week for June's wages, including all players back on full pay.
Estimated bill £1.5m.

That leaves £2.25m.

Wages due next week with most of the big earners gone but a full coaching staff and back office untouched.

Estimated cost £1.5m.

That leaves £750k.

That's if no other creditors, gas, electricity, rates etc have been paid or are due.

Green will run out of money next week unless he can get new investors in or is able to sell ST's.

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Rangers sold 36,000 season tickets flying high, you are suggesting more will be sold to watch SFL for 3 years ?

Rangers average gate was 46,000 flying high, you are suggesting the average will only drop 10% to watch SFL for 3 years ?

I admire your faith, although I do not share it.

Anorak.

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1000 to 4000 grand !? That's £1 to £4 million a week. Rangers will definately run out of money after a week if they pay players that amount !!

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What happens in three year when the taxman wants his share ? or the rates the bills policing and stewarding at matches paying the ref travelling hotels electricity bills staff wages ground workers office workers ect ect to you just ripp all them off again ?

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"Before we had Murray's millions our average gate was not a lot.
Season 83/84 our average was 5,566."
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You need to re-read your history, Rangers won the title in Souness first year, April 1986 with full house with Lawrence Marlborough as the owner, SDM did not purchase Rangers until 23/11/1988 2.5 years after Souness arrived.

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1000 a week only equals 52 grand a year 4000 a week only equals 200 grand a year at most a squad of 16 players equals no more than 1.5mil wage bill a year.Stop kidding yourselfs rangers will easily pull 20000 punters for a home game £20 a ticket 19 home games a season equals 7.6 mil say 4minimum cup home games equals 1.6 mil 500 thousand to 1mil tv deal thats 10mil a year with a wage bill of 1.5mil.The only thing that will kill rangers is spitefulness by the SFA not to grant us a license.Oh and i aint even including shirt sales easily 50000 so theres another 1mil plus sponsors maybe another 500thousand.

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What you think you get to keep the whole 1million for tv deal ? {Ed039's Note - No just the bulk of it)

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{Ed039's Note - No just the bulk of it) ed the sfl is made up of 30 clubs its not just division three you dont have any rights to the tv deal any deal will be done and distributed under the current sfl rules their is no old firm 11-1 vote in that league youll get the same as the rest

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19 Jul 2012 10:09:42
is it likely we will sign any players this year? if yes, who do you think we should sign? (and i know theres more important things going on, but trying to take my mind of them)

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I think we should try to get Rory McCallister from Peterhead. He's a proven goal scorer in this division and would be a huge help for us.

The Bear Down Under.

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I do not think CG will be privately disappointed if the transfer embargo stands, it will suit his new Div 3 budget plans.

Anorak.

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The best 17 years and 364 days old and under players in the country and Europe that are affordable. Blood them over the next season and see who can handle the poor surfaces and s**t weather and still produce a good performance.
These players are affordable and will be good enough for the 3rd tier, I am not being disrespectful to sides in that division but realistically they are on a par with best Junior sides. We have to create a team for the league we are playing in and only when we get into the 1st division should we get players of a better standard as Division 2 is not much of a step up from bottom league whereas it does jump a little in standard from div 2 to div 1

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One small problem, Rangers took over the old contracts, those that stay will be on more than Rangers can afford. Alexander is on 8k per week ?
What about Allys wage ?

Anorak.

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Many Junior sides are better and pay more than Division 3 clubs.

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19 Jul 2012 08:01:30
Is this not tax evasion, the judge thinks so. If it it surely this means that he is not a fit and proper person, and therefore celtic are in trouble as per the SFA ruels they should be treated like rangers

Do not let this story go away

Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:01 PM

High Court rejects £100m claim over tax schemes used by sportsmen
By Alex Hawkes
PUBLISHED: 20:16 GMT, 2 June 2012 | UPDATED: 11:26 GMT,

Wealthy investors who lost cash in tax schemes used by footballers and rugby union stars have lost their claim for £100million in damages against the planners.

Hundreds of people – including ex-England goalkeeper Paul Robinson, former World Cup-winning England rugby union stars Joe Worsley and Jason Leonard as well as Celtic manager Neil Lennon – put money into technology investment schemes between 2002 and 2004.

Innovator One designed the plans so that if investors put in £20,000, they could get back £40,000 in tax relief immediately as a result of the partnerships they joined paying large sums for technology using loans from the bank.

But the taxman decided that since the loan money went round in a circle, being put on deposit with the bank that had originally made the loan, investors were eligible only for relief on the sums they had actually contributed.

Aggrieved investors were even more angry after the schemes’ architect Bjorn Stiedl was jailed for an unrelated fraud in 2004.

The investors sued the marketers, lawyers and other professionals behind the schemes, but the High Court ruled that their claims – that the plans were fraudulent and had been poorly put together – did not stand up.

Mr Justice Hamblen said: ‘Although the claimants were understandably aggrieved to lose their cash contributions and receive back only limited tax relief, there are obvious risks in going into aggressive tax schemes which offer the prospect of almost immediately doubling your money.’

Not all of the celebrities took part in the action at the High Court.

Only Lennon, who put in £200,000 to two of the schemes, and Worsley, who put in £50,000 to one of the plans, were named in court documents as claimants

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Silly season now!
The man invested his own money and lost out (not Celtic). Are you suggesting his employers are responsible for his own poor investments? He joined a scheme, the taxman chucked it out and he lost 200k of his own money.

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You are missing the point. What about his integrity - TAX DODGER

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Yes he lost his money, but he tried to make more money by avoiding paying tax...........we know his views on this, dont we?

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Yeh - unfortunately I think your clutching at straws mate. While I'm no fan of Neil Lennon it's clear this has nothing to do with Celtic FC and can't see how it bears any relation to the issues we're going through. We need to concentrate on our own issues of which there are many!

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I take it you just read things and take what you want from it?

Fit and proper person to own the club not run it by my understanding.

Blackburn to be punished too since Paul Robinson took part?

You should have spent 10minutes twiddling your thumbs because it would have been more productive than this post.

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Always knew that Lennon was dodgy as well as angry.

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The man was not alone and other CFC officials, his employers, put money into similar schemes which also got hammered.
So when these same people make comments about cheating etc they should listen to their own fans who have called Tax Avoidance cheating.

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It wasn't tax evasion and no the Judge didn't think so! There's a difference between evasion (illegal) and avoidance (legal - although much of it morally wrong in my view)
There's a long history of highly paid sports people being encouraged to save tax by investing in "clever" schemes by so called "financial advisers". Very often they go pear shaped - tough luck, it's all about greed and being naive!
Not sure if the "fit and proper" rules extend to greed and naivity - maybe they should!

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Haw, thickheid, stop clutching at straws, wtf has this got to do with Celtic ?

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I think the main point is that everyone would like to pay less taxes and those that can afford advisors do so to lessen the amount given to HMRC.

This is what happened at RFC but the screaming masses are trying to turn it into a cheating scandal.

Will Jimmy Carr be relegated from Channel 4 to ITV4 because of his offshore antics. Probably not: he doesn't have a bunch of sad bigots hating every breath he takes.

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Think the tax man and not the SFA should be asked to investigate this after all it is fair play, what is good for the goose should also apply to the gander after all it is SPORTING INTEGRITY

OZZIE AL

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Read the report bears, clearly states that it was done to gain TAX RELIEF not TAX AVOIDANCE.

The loophole for this has been closed an those participating lost cash, surely this is punishment?

As you lot keep saying the actions of one cannot tar many, make you're minds up. While we're at it surely you have better stuff to dig at like why is Brown causing such a fuss about green? Why is di Stefano claiming dnp,bdo and blue pitch holdings are affiliated to each othe?
Where has Whyte gone? Where have ticketus gone?


Seems to be a rumour that ticketus have "protected" their 25m by fronting green another 5.5m

You're very existence is teetering more than ever but you lot are bothered about a personal investment choice made by the Scottish Champions manager?



You're making it too easy for the vultures

Jamie Mac(deserve all you get)

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Other clubs Celtic, Hearts, etc could not be punished as they directed their players to use schemes not connected to the club, that is where Rangers and other clubs down south went wrong.
The SFA issue is related to the club not paying tax and dual contracts (players evading tax is not against the rules as they stand). While it has been suggested that Robbie Keane and Craig Bellamy were paid both by Celtic and Desmond (dual contracts?) during their stay with Celtic. Celtic would need to open their books for this to be proven. Not something they are likely to do unless they went into administration!

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Its not about punishing celtic its about the moral high ground lennon has taken on ebts calling it cheating while he also tried to "cheat" but failed and lost his money .lennon has also been linked to other finanacial scandals in the past so his holier than thou attitude to the ebts that shows him up for what he is.

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If its open season of managers...

ally and walter smith should fes up on..

a) any ebts ?
b) any tax efficient schemes ?

then you can pop at lennon, not b4

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Fit and proper person rule goes for the directors of a club, not the manager.

The likes of Venables and a host of others and players would never have got near a club if that rule was applied all the way down the tree.

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In what way did Lennon's attempt to lessen his tax burden benefit Celtic?
Compare that to the EBT situation in which Rangers fielded players whose wages they may not have been able to afford by legal means.
Al

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If Neil Lennon has put money into an investment he has already paid tax on this. You don't have to pay tax on winnings at the casino or bookies? You don't have to pay tax on ISA or TESSA benefits?

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The hypocrisy doesn't surprise me one little bit, tax avoidance scams are incredibly immoral, show Lennon up for what he is.

Nothing to do with Celtic though.

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Jamie Mac - surely that is punishment? you're having a laugh. Lennon was not the only member of CFC. Directors and fromer managers and players also were stung by the HMRC when they hammered similar schemes. The only difference I can see is that it wasn't done under the CFC umberalla. But during this process we have learned, as the SFA have said, corporate responsibility, one does stain the others.

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Corporate responsibility when it has something to do with the company - employees of Celtic investing in this scheme has nothing to do with the club. You'll be telling us next that if the lottery syndicate that I'm in with collegues hits the jackpot, we have to give some of it to our employer!

1903

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Is neil lennon not entitled to an opinion?. All he has said is, IF the word if,Rangers are guilty of dual contract's, they should be punished.I am sure every decent football fan would say the same.
Tam

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19 Jul 2012 01:28:03
Just heard Aurelio Laurentiis the napoli owner is intrested in puting a bid in for us he's a millionaire as he owns his own film producing company, ed you heard anything on this mate? {Ed052's Note -THIS ALL I HAVE HEARD ASWELL MATE .Aurelio De Laurentiis isn't your average guy. Producer of over 40 films, owner of SSC Napoli, worth just under £100m and threatens to 'cut the balls off' meddling agents. What's more: according to reports in Italy, the 63 year old is considering taking over Rangers.

Should this indeed be the case, it would not be the first time he has taken charge of a fallen giant.

When his own team, Napoli, went bankrupt back in 2004, De Laurentiis took them over, bought back their history, and through combining solid transfer strategy with savvy marketing deals, the Italian giants returned to the Serie A in 2007 after two successive promotions.

At the end of the 2011/12 season, eight years after bankruptcy, they finished fifth in the league, won the Coppa Italia, and made the last 16 of the Champions League.

If anyone knows how to restore a team to its former glory, it's De Laurentiis.

Indeed, according to reports in 'La Stampa', this is the reason why the film mogul is interested in taking over our club. After having helped Napoli back to the top, the Italian is now keen on a foreign adventure.

Furthermore, the same article referenced that he has already sounded out former Napoli, Lazio and Genoa manager Edy Reja about the project; the same man who guided Napoli up through the divisions.

Should any deal go through, and it is important to remember that this is coming from a country which makes our rumour mill look as factual as a national census, question marks could be raised over the same man owning two clubs. However, UEFA only have issues with this if the two clubs were ever to meet in the same competition. Since it is three years until Rangers are allowed to play in Europe again, it is unlikely that this would be a problem in the medium term.

If you had asked any rational football fan last year what the chances were of Aurelio De Laurentiis taking over Rangers within the next 12 months, you would have been laughed off at worst, and patronised at best. Now, after the past few months we've had, it strangely doesn't seem that unbelievable at all...

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Can't c there been any truth in this. he's obviously.a very intelligent man with a fortune like that racked up so why would he want to b assosated with all the shame were carrying...
Airport bear. w.a.t.p

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Another pipe dream, and curve ball chucked our way gents!! it will never happen. Just a carrot being dangled!!

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Guys, First of all I am a Celtic supporter. I think it best for new-Rangers [or whatever you wish to refer to them by] to allow Charles Green to get this new company of his up and running, so that in the fullness of time it can be offered to fans in a similar way as Fergus McCann done at Celtic. If he walks away with a bucket of dosh then good on him if he moves ownership to the supporters. If you don't buy season tickets, then he will simply sell the assets to recoup his money, and if ibrox were to be sold then I think that would be the end, as the stadium is the one thing that binds you all together.

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No as important as the stadium is, its the the team rangers that pull us all together.200000 in manchester following the team,ibrox may be our spiritual home but the team is our god, where ever they play we will follow follow

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Airport bear - you need to take a break from this forum after what you just posted, i reckon timmy has finally brainwashed you and you now believe all the anti bears propoganda

JG

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JG-maybe airport bear has woken up to reality unlike some.He is entitled to his opinion.
Tam

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19 Jul 2012 02:50:39
Aurelio De Laurentiis wants to buy rangers

net worth-152 million

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What does his net worth have to do with anything? do you think he will invest his entire bank account in us?

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Get ready for playing in the street with jaikets for posts
Solves the season ticket problems!

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Right fellow bears the only people who should own the club is the fans

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18 Jul 2012 23:27:11
Anyone else thinkin we'll no be playin any football this season? Gutted, a thought once we were told div3 that would be it. Start again no more nonsense! I'll be there wherever the gers are playin! We will be back with a younger, home grown team and we'll be stronger as a team and as supporters! Gers till I die!

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We will be playing. someone will cave in to the sanctions decision. Dont be surprised if the sfa have been put under severe pressure to hammer us.

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