Rangers Rumours Archive March 19 2018

 

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19 Mar 2018 23:03:45
Hearing rumors about investment from
Souness, Kennedy and SDM
Anyone heard anything



20 Mar 2018 04:58:29
I heard Kennedy was in place to invest heavily b4 Xmas, eventually he would have majority shareholding to launch takeover .



20 Mar 2018 07:14:36
Would we really want Murray anywhere near the club? The guy sold us to the biggest chancer on the planet just so he could wash his hands off the mess he created. Can he ever be forgiven for that? I, for one, can never get over that. For all the good times he brought to Ibrox, he didn't half leave some mess.



20 Mar 2018 09:39:24
I think if you look into it SDM was forced into selling Rangers by the banks, at the time the loads of business, s were under huge pressure of debt and Murrry Internationl was one, they had huge debt to the bank and with the big tax case looming they basically said get rid of Rangers or we pull the credit from your companies .
I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong but at the time he was under huge pressure, I was one who sat through the nine in a row years and watched some of the best players around playing in the Rangers shirts and at that time I never once heard any objection to us singing these stars.
So if it is true and I still think it's a huge IF I'd welcome those guys Souness would be great to have back on board he is the guy we need behind the scenes he would take no rubbish of anyone, we need investment badly we need a manager in the mould of Souness someone who will not accept these lack lustre performances we have lost seven games at home this season 21 points five of those have been under Murty that is simply not good enough, if Aberdeen win their game in hand we are third no change even after the Jan transfer window so for me I'd pick those three guys up with their investments and drive them to Ibrox



20 Mar 2018 12:05:28
I can assure you the investment isn't coming from those names listed above!



20 Mar 2018 13:06:54
"I think if you look into it SDM was forced into selling Rangers by the banks".
Only because his entire tenure of the club was funded by the banks rather than any of his own money. In fact, taking his EBT in to consideration, he probably took more out of the club than he put in. Okay, he did underwrite a share issue when the 'sugardaddy fans' once again failed to invest in the club.
The big tax case was looming over because of his decision to use EBTs. They may not have been illegal at the time, but he knew they were dodgy. So much so that he concealed their use in side letters. The financial collapse of the club was of his doing. People have to stop blaming everyone else for the meltdown.



20 Mar 2018 13:11:10
Colster who's the investment coming from?



20 Mar 2018 13:39:23
STYAB

Spot on mate it’s astonishing that some people still can’t see this and make excuses for him. This man is responsible for the collapse and should never be welcomed back in any capacity



20 Mar 2018 16:50:33
I was told in strictest confidence but I wouldn't put it on here anyway as everyone ridicules posts like these. However I did put a bit of info from the same source regarding a kit deal. Now if this is true regarding the kit deal. we better strap ourselves in! 🙄



20 Mar 2018 17:33:29
Colster very interesting my friend and you're correct! Everytime you pass on something on here that you've been told, it can be ridiculed by a chosen few on here! Sick telling these folks, that out of the goodness of our heart being all bears, we're only sharing our info with our fellow bears! COLSTER, what did you post regarding news on our new kit deal mate?



20 Mar 2018 18:12:55
It was in reply to your post regarding kit deal. I was told it's a dine deal with Under armour. 3 year deal. Again I stress that this is not out there and could be bull. But if this is true regarding the kit then the other bit of info I got is massive!



20 Mar 2018 18:25:09
thinkaboutit, Murray saved our club white put us in the grubber if people looked a wee bit deeper into what was happening at the time, instead of getting all their info from rumour sites they would come to the same conclusion.



20 Mar 2018 20:28:41
Only person investing in Rangers this year is Ashley only reason a gone quiet is because everyone doubting my info won't be long now tho guys 😉



20 Mar 2018 20:51:51
Please explain your line.
Murray saved our club.
Craig Whyte being a billionaire has more truth than your line



20 Mar 2018 23:02:56
kennedy that used to own sale sharks? was he not interested before whyte?



20 Mar 2018 23:52:37
Murray only cares about his egotistical self
He knew Whyte had zero cash and duped him allegedly!
Ticketus?



21 Mar 2018 06:39:11
Can't believe some of yous no wanting S D M to invest in our club to be honest I'd let Saddam Hussain to invest just to stop smelting winning 10 in a row so belt up people we need money from somewhere as we're going nowhere fast



21 Mar 2018 06:43:27
As I said isle of mull, don't get all your info from rumour sites, do a wee bit of serious research yourself and see what conclusion you come up with . lloyds bank would have put us out of the game for just £19mil and we were talking about days here, look it up and look into Murray International too, we could have traded our way out of trouble but lloyds were in financial trouble at the time and called in all their debts putting hundreds (thousands? ) of businesses out of the game .



21 Mar 2018 07:36:01
JYF rubbish mate this we only owed £19m how come we had 276 creditors with over £160m in debt. Granted £90m is to the taxman mate but the rest is to people we did business with on a daily basis and left them out of pocket. So JYF you do a bit of 'serious research' and show us how we went into administration owing £19m. As for SDM he left the tax payers (us as tax player owned Lloyd's at the time) £800m down, but was still allowed to cherry pick profitable parts of his empire to buy at knock down price. What a country if wee Jim corner shop hits trouble the banks are in to close it and probably want his house too, but the SDM and Phil Green of this world alway come up smelling like roses.



21 Mar 2018 09:47:23
Although SDM is not my first choice of investor, at this moment in time we cannot be picky. Dave King has nothing and is clutching for dear life at the moment in his Chairman's seat.

I don't have any rumours or aunties and uncles who knows someone who knows the postie at Ibrox, but I, like many bears, just want stability and if that means a few names that we don't know or like coming into the mix, then so be it.



21 Mar 2018 11:01:15
Colster

Is this alleged investment in your eyes good or bad for Rangers?



21 Mar 2018 11:26:39
Good. don't worry it's not Ashley. seemingly that was one of the stipulations. that he was out of the picture!



21 Mar 2018 11:29:10
From what I've been told this isn't an investment! If that makes sense. I'll let you draw your own conclusions regarding that statement



21 Mar 2018 12:04:15
So its a complete takeover/ buyout of the full club, Colster?



21 Mar 2018 12:11:11
As far as I'm aware the shares don't allow one person to own our club. But the shares can allow a majority shareholder. I stand corrected if I'm wrong!



21 Mar 2018 14:15:29
Hope your right colster, didn't C. GREEN write something into the first share issue that no one can own more than 15%. He said there will never have a Murray or Whyte running the club ie one guy running the show.



21 Mar 2018 16:19:38
Come on colster just reveal the full details of the rumour, we know you are dying to!



21 Mar 2018 16:53:20
Cannon. haha. I'd love to but there are a few reasons why I can't. If the info I got regarding the kit deal is true then I will post what I've heard regarding the Summer as I will then believe what I've been told! 👍



21 Mar 2018 19:24:39
Isle of Mull where are you getting this 160m debt from?



21 Mar 2018 19:54:36
Eh, the liquidators statement that are still working through the Murray and Whyte mess.



21 Mar 2018 21:53:50
Colster, when is the official announcement on under armour being our new kit manufacturers, likely to be mate? I have absolutely no reason to not believe you mate!



22 Mar 2018 01:45:51
COLSTER doesn't even know himself if HIS rumour is true or not. Says it all



22 Mar 2018 02:05:34
Isle of Mull
Your facts are right regarding the level of debt Rangers where due to many different businesses/ individuals and how the fat cats can wriggle out of it whilst the honest joe gets pumped.
But, my friend, SDM was like you and I, a fan chasing the dream. He gave me the RFC that I’ll support forevermore. Players like Terry Butcher, Ray Wilkins, Stephen Klos, Ronald De Bour, Arthur Newman. Paul Gascogne and Brian Laudrup. Not to mention Graeme Souness.
SDM was forced by Lloyd’s to sell or they were going to ruin him and us.
Craig Whyte’s the charlatan in my opinion and that ties into what I said initially cause now he’s suing RFC!



22 Mar 2018 02:46:04
Give a man a gun, he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank, he can rob the world!
Lloyd’s forced the £1 deal.
Has anyone been held accountable for the collapse of the banking system in Britain? No chance.
I’m just thankful I’ve still got my team to support.



22 Mar 2018 07:23:52
Silent bomber agree with you on lots of your post but SDM the football fan chasing his dream can't go along with that. This man didn't spend one penny of his own wealth on us, all friendly bankers money. Of course he did take his pound of flesh for his valuable time. It was shown in open court that if SDM sold us for the pound (remember it started at millions) he could get back bits of MI for a penny, we all know what the rugby loving chairman picked. Also mate G Souness was already at Ibrox before SDM arrived. As for Whyte he did put money in (alas not his own) but has to pay it back, so some justice. Again I will SDM used this patsy to make financial gain for himself also shown in court.



22 Mar 2018 10:32:01
supercoop. I have no idea when it will be announced but if we get to the final it's the norm to wear the new kit. China look up the word rumour. I really couldn't care less if no one believes it or not. All I'm saying I was given 2 bits of info. If the kit deal info is true then I'll certainly believe the 2nd bit.



22 Mar 2018 10:43:06
The reason SDM sold ranger's was he got married.



22 Mar 2018 12:57:38
That's OK then let's blame his wife lol, anything that keep Sir David from criticism will keep lots on here happy



19 Mar 2018 20:24:10
Being at the game on Saturday all I saw was players knocking the ball side ways at the back and nobody making runs to receive the ball or no one touch football to get some urgency in our attack. they seemed clueless and then punted the ball up the park to no avail. . we couldn’t pass the ball and we looked like pedros team again. once there on the park it’s down to the players.

On Saturday 9 didn’t play well at all. In fact they were pathetic. Murty can’t control them and doesn’t have the depth in squad to make wholesale changes. Once our injuries clear up we can bench or leave from squad consistent poor performers. Then we may see more urgency and see what Murty can do with a good fit squad.



19 Mar 2018 21:45:50
In large part due to the decision not to start with Morelas in the team.



20 Mar 2018 13:40:41
Murty is not the answer as Manager if he isn’t given the job next season then I predict he won’t last the season and we will be once again looking for another Manager



19 Mar 2018 17:40:41
Don't shoot the messenger here fellow bears because of some info i'd like to share on here,
with fellow bluenoses! I got this info told to me today, from a guy who used to work at ibrox for many years, in a prominent role! He got told this, what i'm about to tell you, from a former rangers director! Here goes! Graeme murty is very much in the frame to becoming the rangers permanent manager, beyond this season! I was also told however, that our directors are also very keen on these managers, who are actively being also considered! The managers are, michel preud'homme, the duo of graham potter and billy reid, steve mcClaren, frank de boer, gio van bronckhurst! that's the 6 candidates all actively being considered! Only sharing with you, what i was told! what's our thoughts on this potential next rangers manager list guys?



19 Mar 2018 18:01:20
As I said Potter and Reid next season



19 Mar 2018 18:29:52
ed before super asked can we have a poll? 🙈



19 Mar 2018 21:24:51
Gio would be great but i feel the job has been waiting on De Boer for a long time! They two should be the top targets



19 Mar 2018 22:49:16
It's not exactly a secret the names mentioned. They have along with clarke been the names mentioned in every paper for months.



20 Mar 2018 06:24:09
Once again you've just lumped in as many names as you can with the hope that one if them is right so you can claim some sort of credit. Here we have Supercopper's formula to picking a winner. A truly awful post there my man. You have just stunk out the forum with that one.
I'm calling bull on you having any inside knowledge on Rangers.



20 Mar 2018 11:38:55
Nice one colster! Now don't you nip in front of me, trying to get a poll organised first! that's my job mate! 😂
Lol



20 Mar 2018 19:21:49
haha. you don't like a poll right enough😂😂



20 Mar 2018 23:06:44
was that not a poll last week?



19 Mar 2018 13:49:37
I think something you have to realise is that managers like steve clarke and tommy wright. Don't have opposition sitting with 11 men behind the ball setting up banks of defence. Rangers and celtic do. Did Steve Clarke make an amazing tactical change in the game to re address the game play? no he had his team set out one way, defend first and foremost then try find a goal. celtic can dominate play with there midfield so its a lot harder to score against them if you don't have the ball. We try it but can't do it.

I don't think Murty is the answer but I am not demanding him out. Possibly the main reason is who the hell can we get that will fill his place? and be a guarantee top manager? If there is money from the share issue. Forget getting players in first. Spend it on a manager. A great manager can work with lesser value players to create something.

Sometimes I actually feel out team is set out too attacking. Unfortunately we are were we are. Maybe a lot to do with pedro or the board or the players I honestly don't know. All we can ask is that we finish strong being tenacious and carrying abit of luck.



19 Mar 2018 14:54:05
Steve Clarke



19 Mar 2018 17:23:50
So your answer to beating teams that pack their defence against us is to play less attacking? When we currently start every game with one up top? Strikes as a bit of an odd one to me.

The issue we have when teams do this is that we don't have players with the guile or a bit of magic to break them down. At the weekend, to a man, every player was waiting on someone else to do something.

Windass pops up with goals but is too often hiding. Murphy is trying and has ability, but constantly cuts onto his right, running in field right to where the numbers are. We need wingers that will stretch a back line and a number 10 that puts his foot on the ball and can play a cute pass to open something up. Either that or commit to two up top more regular and let Cummings and Fredo try to build a partnership.



19 Mar 2018 17:24:40
I remain all for graeme murty to be given a chance, to become our permanent manager, at the end of the season, on a 12 month rolling contract! I honestly don't see a gamble on doing that! However, if this board of ours does decide to change, they should look at the fantastic record of belgian manager preud'homme has! He has a very impressive CV and is very experienced!



19 Mar 2018 18:29:54
See these days Coop mate, I reckon youd be quicker listing the folk you don't rate ;)



19 Mar 2018 22:29:32
I'm really wondering now if supercoop is actually one of the other mob. We have not progressed one little bit bar playing some fancy football against non league and lower league teams yet he wants to persist with the current manager. Why anyone could be happy with the way this season has went I will never know and murty has played a massive part in that. We are in real danger in finishing with a worse points tally than last season which included some dreadful results and a change in management. I'm sorry but I'm not going to happily accept scraping to be 2nd best and that will continue under murty



20 Mar 2018 08:09:41
Rabc1000

Think we will probably beat last years points however not by many and i agree about Murty we haven’t moved forward as some fans seem to think. He isn’t the answe and it’s astonishing some still can’t see this



20 Mar 2018 08:59:32
maybe I am overthinking but on TV after match Clarke made a point about saying his brothers were big Killie fans thereby distancing himself from the dark side which is the team I have been told the family support and have seen that on here.
I do not know the family at all but does anyone know for sure if he is from a Killie or Dhim background?



21 Mar 2018 02:30:44
Murty ain't the answer . Billy Davies. de Boer no. Eddie Howe Sean dyche young managers who. manage with what they have no big transfer budgets but bloody successful . dint they prove that week in week out in think. howe or dyche next manager



23 Mar 2018 10:39:57
Murty is a good coach and now we have a dof in place i see no reason to bin murty off i think its pretty obvious that Mark Alan is recruiting the players murty is doing a fair job i think he should be given a full season to see what he can do if we shed some dead weight and bring in a few good replacements i think we could hit the ground running starting from scratch again could be costly



19 Mar 2018 10:18:50
Murty has done well with this crop of players but when things go wrong he can not change things to get us the results needed.
This is no fault of his own the board have fling him under the bus they have to take responsibilty for the mess we find ourselves in we where crying out for a experianced manager and they go for murty as he is the cheapeast option for them.
If they get this manager choice in the summer wrong then they should be packing there bags for me we need go all out to get the best manager we can.



19 Mar 2018 13:20:09
Who would you want as the next permanent rangers manager Craig8688?



19 Mar 2018 13:57:14
I would like to see the club show ambiuion and target either marco silva or gio van bronckhorst



19 Mar 2018 16:01:50
And when it all goes wrong recall Murty?

Get behind the man he can only work with what he’s got.

Look at the resources the other lot have to call on we have nothing let me that and it shows



19 Mar 2018 16:33:47
i agree with you murty has done really well and afterall he is a youth coach
but i still rather have the team as it is just now rather than it was with all the bampots we had running it



19 Mar 2018 16:58:43
Yes the team has played a bit better under Murty but and they are big buts if Aberdeen win their game in hand I know it's an if they are in second place, we have lost seven games at home this season a record and Murty has been in charge for five of those, for me simply not good enough he is a youth coach who has been thrown below the bus by this board and it hasn't worked, fans are so desperate for success they cling to everything, Murty is great with the press, I could listen to him all day talking football well for me I couldn't care less if he never spoke I want success, I spend a lot of money following Rangers and it's just not good enough the board must find investment bring in an experienced manager who can boss a dressing room, the team cheered when we got Celtic in cup that should never have happened they should shut up and do their talking on the pitch or the big question is can they?



19 Mar 2018 18:37:53
Have to disagree with a few of the things he has said during press conferences. He was wrong to play down the assault which ended Ryan Jacks season the tackle was scandalous. Also thanking Brown for his contribution to Scotland was one of the most cringeworthy things I’ve ever heard. Our home record under him is poor and he has shown a great deal of naivety in the last 2 games. Should go back to being the u20 coach



19 Mar 2018 19:27:44
We need to get behind the man and stop shooting him down after less than a season. Its not his fault the team lack creativity against defensive sides. As for the celtic game, poor defending cost us. We should have won that game. The only reason brenda flung on an attacker was because his teams can't defend. We r missing ryan jack, mccrorie, dorrans and bates. Three r key midfielders and one a key defender. If we bring in better faster centre halfs we would reduce our goal loss by ten easy. If we had beat celtic, you could have all said give the man a contract. he's cut the gap between them and us massively this season. If we finish a strong second and put them oot the vup there will be no complaints here



19 Mar 2018 20:21:46
Murty is too nice and he hasn't enough experience for a huge job like Gers, I wouldn't have windass in the team, he goes walkabout to often, but on Saturday they all went walkies.



19 Mar 2018 22:34:06
The reason we lack creativity is solely down to murty. We have creative players in the team. Tavernier, John, Goss, windass, Murphy, candias, morelos, Cummings are all attacking creative players and tbf with a tactically astute manager would flourish. The fact we are the leagues top scorers shows this to an extent however his negative formations and style of play hinders these players. How often have we seen long balls lumped forward for no reason at all?

Unfortunately the buck stops with murty



20 Mar 2018 19:36:33
Giovanni Von Bronkhorst all day long. We should go all out to get him signed up for next season

I fear if we don’t show ambition and intent on the Managerial front, many will not renew their season tickets, which means less money to spend on quality players

Season Ticket renewals will be out in the next 4-6 weeks. We need to show some ambition. I like Murty but he’s not the man to take us to the next level. 🇬🇧



 
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