Rangers Rumours Archive May 24 2017

 

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24 May 2017 23:09:18
A newspaper is saying we now want Jamie walker i'm sorry but if we really are going for him along with patterson moult and henigen we have absolutely no chance of getting anywhere near Celtic these players are not any better than what we are trying to get rid of. Personally I think it's all just paper talk Pedro has a vision and believes he can catch Celtic so I really don't think he will go for any more than two spfl players I think he will know there not good enough . How are we going to attract players like Bruno alves when he looks at it and sees that this is the standard of player we are bringing in we need better a lot better.



24 May 2017 23:22:26
Jamie Walker is a step above every single player in our team. He is a stand out in a very very poor Hearts side. 15 Goals this season, can't see how he wouldn't be a great signing if true



24 May 2017 23:38:00
If he is way above ever player we have at 23 why is he not ever in the Scotland squad? Barry mackay gets in there along with English championship players so he is not good enough for a poor Scotland squad not better than English championship standard players yet we should sign him because he is a great player?



25 May 2017 00:02:05
Every time I make the point about the standard of players we are being linked with not being good enough I get shot down in flames. Pedro had better pull a rabbit or two out the hat but I for one are not optimistic going forward under this guy!



25 May 2017 02:03:24
A don't see the problem buying some scottish players . there's good deals out there. Look what price celtic got armstrong for. i'm not saying sign lots of scottish players but there are some good players to be found



25 May 2017 06:32:12
One step at a time guys all the players mentioned above are better than what we have and will improve the squad, and as long as there IS improvement going forward we can't complain! Too many English league 1 players in the squad currently who are delighted to be here picking up the kind of wage they could only dream about, adding players who know the league can only be a good thing look at guys like Neil McCann, Billy Dodds, Kenny Miller, Marvin Andrews, Kevin Thompson, Steven Thompson etc all done a job for Rangers!



25 May 2017 06:57:56
We used to take the better players from other Scottish clubs all the time, strengthening our team while weakening thiers. Celtic have been doing that a bit recently and I'm happy we are going to start doing it again. Add in a few decent "Pedro" signings and we will start to close the gap to the sheep



25 May 2017 08:38:00
Walker doesn't get in the team because Chesney has no idea what he is doing. McKay has had a sub appearance and was poor, hasn't been near the team since.



25 May 2017 08:51:04
Hopefully create a gap between us and the sheep.



25 May 2017 08:52:38
All this nonsense about the players being linked its insane, we brought in players who didn't know the league and struggled so what's the problem with being linked with moult who is one of the top scorera in the league in a poor motherwell side, walker who has ripped us and almost every other team in the league to shreads in a dreadful hearts team ( also one of the top scorers in the country) ryan jack the captain of the team 9 points ahead of us who are constantly praised for the battling midfield.
But then people are also complaining about the possiblity of signing a euro winning but hey we are the rangers support we know better than a football manager eh?



25 May 2017 10:47:04
You joking?
Moult 18 goals
Walker 15 goals
Patterson 8 goals for half the season

We need proven goal scorers at this level. Jack is a carbon copy of Brown, doesn't waste a pass. We need this in the team.



25 May 2017 10:52:02
Walker would be my top signing. I really think the boy has serious ability and would improve further in a better team.

My flatmate is friends with him and tells me that the lad isn't surprised to be overlooked by Strachan and doesn't expect a call up with he's in charge.



25 May 2017 14:03:32
Where do I start? Kevin1984, most of the players you mention were already internationalists. None of those we're linked with (Walker, Moult, etc) are. There's a reason for that. Blueshaun, that was many years ago when Scotland was producing real talent. TheElginHun, by your logic, we should sign the highest scorers from leagues rated above ours, like Ecuador, Poland, Australia or Switzerland. Being a high scorer in a poor league means little. And I will automatically disagree with anybody who styles himself with that foul name 'Hun'.



25 May 2017 23:37:35
Well said fraser c23, deanobear are you on something you shouldn't be? Patterson, walker and moult are much better than any player we have. Anyone who thinks different needs a docs appointment. Would they get us closer to celtic? Not sure, but they are better than any player we have.



25 May 2017 23:38:28
It's true Jamie walker is looking at houses in Glasgow because he wants to sign but will be easier if we go through his agent instead of Hearts as he is a rangers man



26 May 2017 05:52:28
Same as yourself Thegers1986!I also don't see a problem buying some scottish players who will undoubtedly, improve us! Deanobear, why do you think jamie walker isn't good enough for us? Remember our eastend rivals brought in the likes of stuart armstrong from scumdee utd, look how that's turned out for club and player! There is talent within scotland that can improve us, without question there is!



26 May 2017 07:52:54
Steven Thomson was rank rotten so if you think he done a job for us then god knows what football you have been watching absolutely terrifying statement



26 May 2017 10:16:12
everyne is entitled to their opinion but doubts are not something weshould be having even before a single player is signed!



24 May 2017 13:27:54
Rangers have had an offer accepted for siem de jong. was on loan at psv from newcastle last season.



24 May 2017 13:42:04
What's that smell? Is it dog? Cat?
No it's bull. t



24 May 2017 14:27:14
Why because he's not played fur pedro b4 or an ex ger



24 May 2017 14:54:00
Don't think Dave King is going to give Mike Ashley any money! He is rotten anyway, PST turned down their option to sign him.



24 May 2017 14:55:05
Not at all. I just simply don't believe it.



24 May 2017 21:56:51
Stirlingbear you told us the other day that weiss was at ibrox signing a contract but we've never heard a thing about that either so I don't believe the de Jong one either but I suppose it's a rumours page after all



26 May 2017 22:50:43
Don't know anything about Siem De Jong BUT if Rafa is still interested in Windass then fat Ashley imo will not say to him sorry Rafa but u can't do business with Rangers as I'm at handbags with Dave King!
How many Gers Fans agree with me?
After persuading Rafa to stay and payinghim X amount Iin wages for him to build a team using his knowledge etc he's going to stop him bringing a player to Newcastle. Plus a player who would cost pennies! If Ashley were to stop a deal like this going through Rafa would go nuts so if there is any truth in this then I cannot see the relationship between King and Ashley stopping what Rafa wants.
Also what position does DeJong play and what age is he? Thinking if this deal is on yhe cards we may have to give player plus money yeah.
Info Bears pls.



24 May 2017 12:20:25
Bruno alves been offered to galatasaray 😒 hope we don't miss out on him also.



24 May 2017 13:58:56
We won't miss out on him. It's probs his last big contract and he was never coming here to build up his pension.
& there lies the problem, we are so far behind in salary (never mind the state of Scottish football ) that it will be freebies and end of career pension seekers with no sell on value



24 May 2017 14:18:14
If we lose out on Alves and don't sign someone of the same calibre then our defence will be a shambles next season again and Pedro will be the next sacrificial lamb.

Only time will tell whether there really is a serious transfer kitty for Pedro that would be £13m+ all the transfer fees received or whether the Rangers support is being conned yet again by King and his Bullsh1t!



24 May 2017 14:51:37
TOMUSA no offence here mate, but what do you mean 'conned yet again'?


Do you not remember what our club has been through the past 5 years? King is running the club within it's means and he is the only chairman to have done so since David Murray and has stabilised the clubs finances. And let's not forget the small matter of Mike Ashley which prevents us from making any money from merchandise.

If it was not for King and Co it would have been game over for Rangers Football Club. If it was up to some of our supporters the club would have been in administration again long before now.



24 May 2017 14:55:58
Sound like they are trying to bump up the transfer fee by creating a bidding war!



24 May 2017 16:50:55
Bearmode91, King has from day one, talked about how he would invest his children's inheritance acquiring players for the Club and how he would see us returned to where we belong. Rule Number one for me, if you don't plan to do it or financially can't do it then don't promise it!

For me, having looked at the monies that other have put into the club, (not the purchase of stock, at a knocked own price to gain control), then, in comparison to others he is a minor investor.

I see nothing that he is doing other than with his mouth to take the club forward, and unlike Lawrence Marlborough all those years ago, I don't see the guy that he has put in to run the club on a day to day basis being all that dynamic.

Rangers, like their counterparts at the other end of the City is a Club with massive potential, especially given the potential for the right Investor to redevelop the surrounding areas to both generate jobs and generate significant income.

King is not the man to take us forward!

In the short term we will see whether the season ticket money + income on the sale of players goes to Pedro to enhance the playing staff or whether this was just more bullsh1t



24 May 2017 16:59:43
Well said bearmode👍



24 May 2017 17:24:43
Spot on Bear.

TOMUSA has an agenda against King.

He manages to have a go at King in virtually every post and cannot quite bring himself to acknowledging the fact that King and only King put his money in to buy a controlling stake (along with the other current supporting shareholders)

I have asked TOMUSA and other similar detractors on many occasions who or what is the alternative (based on at least a smidgeon of reality) but oddly science is always the loud reply.



24 May 2017 18:18:32
BR65, Until he puts his money where his mouth is I will continue to question him. In simple terms, unless he was genuinely going to invest the funds in the team then he should have kept quiet.

Now, he has come out and stated that all season ticket money, and that should be circa £13.5m will be invested in the team, and I don't believe that it is a simple coincidence that it has been season ticket renewal time.

Let's just wait and see, the quality of players at the Club has been pretty awful of late and big changes are needed, changes that will only be of the appropriate quality if Pedro has serious money to spend. If he gets the players of the right quality then hopefully he will succeed, if he does not get the financial backing then we cannot blame the manager.

In terms of replacing King, that is a good question, he is only a minority shareholder so would he sell his shares and if so for how much, and if so could a new investor take the club forward. and would that Investor be acceptable to the majority of the Rangers support?



24 May 2017 18:49:33
Tomusa you are correct that King is a minority shareholder. What I do not understand is why you expect him to pump millions of pounds of his own money into Rangers when he is only a minority shareholder. Why are you not moaning about the other shareholders who do not want to invest their money. The money would not benefit him, it would benefit others that are only here to make money. I do not hear McCoist offering to put money into the club and he is a shareholder who did not back King at the last AGM. I believe King is willing to invest given the right circumstances but did not get the support he required at the last AGM.



24 May 2017 19:48:46
I think people should lay of DK he has put money in now and before when Murray was in charge. But let's be realistic he ain't going to pump £20m in every season we already know how that ends he's stabilising at the moment and once we we're making money as a club again then we can start spending again this is the only way forward. Dave King will be to rangers what fergus maccan was to ceptic



25 May 2017 08:40:53
Hi, I read with interest how your fans are divided on the D King issue and from the outside I think that you are both correct but also both wrong!
Yes, DK stepped forward and bought shares to get control of the club but the backing he received from you (the ordinary fan) was based on promises of OVER investing in the first few years in the playing squad and a suggestion that hew would happily spend his family's inheritance however to date all of the money that he HAS put into the club is in the form of a LOAN. someone above stated that his has the club living within its means. how can this be when the club is due anything from 7-13M (various figures being banded about) is loans just to get to the end of this season?
I really hope that this mess can be sorted and that you, the fans, get clarity of what is happening at the club because at the end of the day YOUR club means as much to you as MY club does to me and I really do feel for the ordinary fan.



25 May 2017 12:36:07
JHW, have you not been listening?

"What I (JHW) do not understand is why you (TOMUSA) expect him (Dave King) to pump millions of pounds of his own money into Rangers when he is only a minority shareholder. "

Ehhh, because he said he would. Is that not a good enough reason to expect it?



25 May 2017 14:45:43
to me so far king has tried his best to live up to what he said he said we will be in the top devision this season we are



25 May 2017 16:40:10
some people like tomusa are wanting a sugar daddy to fix things but they won't get it.
king is doing everything he can to get us back to where we belong



25 May 2017 19:53:50
James, I don't necessarily want a wealthy investor to hand over funds to Rangers, because investing in Scottish Football will never bring financial reward however what I do want is honesty and a strategy to take us forward.

Lawrence Marlborough did not have £billions but he did have a vision for the future and in David Holmes he had a capable CEO to implement his strategy. When Souness was brought in it met with some questions but Souness and Smith delivered and when Lawrence Marlborough no longer had the financial capability to take the club forward as he passed the Club over to someone that was committed to continue his strategy.

Right now all I have seen is empty promises, if you cannot or will not keep the promises made then as Chairman you should not make those promises in the first place. I do not see a strategy for the future and I do not see a CEO with the Acumen of David Holmes.

As for Pedro, I will give him the opportunity to emulate Souness and Smith, right now he is a breath of fresh air. He is giving the young lads a chance, he has quickly identified that most of our current squad are not fit for purpose and he has by all accounts identified players that he believes can take this club forward and challenge our enemies in the East End of Glasgow.

Only time will tell but given the financial resources to secure the players he wants I have a significant degree of confidence that we will have a team that will play for the jersey and give that lot across the City a run for their money.



25 May 2017 21:52:12
its quite clear to see david king is not going invest signifiant funds so really he should keep quite and stop promising the fans things then not delivering on the promises it is that simple actions speak louder than words then he wouldn't get sluaghterd on hear for it



25 May 2017 22:55:47
Tbf lads he shouldn't have made stupid promises about investing his kids inheritances etc. Yes he's stabilised our finances but he's also been far from honest with us from day one regarding the finances, you might not like it but it's the only truth of the matter, he hasn't invested like he said he would



26 May 2017 10:19:49
tomusa things don't happen overnight mater and king will get us there maybe not as quick as you would like but who cares what u and all the other pesimists like.

anyone with two eyes can see he is trying his best to get us back into a strong position but because it hasn't happened yet you doubt that's what he wants.

maybe u just want a sugardaddy



24 May 2017 10:42:12
on rangers fc news that ipswich are interested in signing garner. it says that they're offering a third of what rangers paid. must be in the region of 600k



24 May 2017 13:30:07
Sell sell sell. we could start buy 1 get 1 free kinda deals lol



24 May 2017 14:00:11
YES sell but not for £600k Ipswich tragically have more money than we do despite being a non history club lucky enough to be luving in second richest keague in UK and many other countries. If thecwant Garner its because they think he can do them a turn. If that's the case even in the championshop stroker prices range from £2m ipwards. We should try get our money back at least or stick with the giy for start of next season and give him a chance



24 May 2017 14:13:40
Sorry for spelling. Cannae type lol



24 May 2017 17:18:41
What's a non history club?



24 May 2017 21:34:35
a club with not a great deal of history?



25 May 2017 15:34:12
So winning the Uefa cup makes them a no history club? You can also add in the FA cup, English League and managed by the two greatest English football managers in Ramsay and Robson. They might not be the most fashionable club but most clubs in England would be happy to have those achievements. They are my English team so felt I had to comment.



25 May 2017 13:25:43
i bite their hand off for that as he is not a goalsscorer.

this is one area warburton didn't have a clue. he couldn't tell a goalscorer from a pole vaulter.



24 May 2017 06:54:59
Daily Rebel Reporting the following out with transfer prices.

McKay
Garner
Waghorn
Windass
Crooks
Tavernier
O"Halloran
Keirnan
Forrester

Aparently a list was sent to English clubs along with price list.



24 May 2017 07:00:53
How is halliday and Holt not on that list lightweights



24 May 2017 07:26:15
Find that strange considering windass had more game time than halliday under pedro! Pure speculation



24 May 2017 07:28:36
Crooks winds both 150k each

Tav 1.25m

Waggy 400k

McKay 2m

And Keirnan Forrester both in a free



24 May 2017 08:07:57
It's a load of bollocks if you ask me. Pedro has stated he wants Mckay to stay. He has said he'll be using Garner to his strengths next year. He is keeping Hodson yet gave Tav all the game time? Plays Windass almost every game and tells him he can leave? Holt and Halliday are staying? The Rhebel are putting out Keirnan. McKay was leaving for 750k-1mil just last week.



24 May 2017 08:15:46
Why are holt, Halliday and dodoo not in that list?



24 May 2017 08:23:11
Whats everyone's thoughts on the rumours McKay is leaving in the summer? Arguably one of the best prospects we have produced and on his day unplayable. Yes he can be inconsistent at times, but he is still young. I think selling him for around £1m would be a big mistake.



24 May 2017 08:26:14
I find it very strange that Halliday is not on that list. He was one of the worst performers at the club; right down there with Kiernan. If Pedro is looking to bring in players and thinks Halliday is quality then I hate to think what we will end up with!

I also wonder whether King's comments are serious because with all those players on the list to be replaced we will need the £13m from season ticket sales + what we can secure from selling those players mentioned + more, just to replace them with slightly better quality.

Sorry but it all smells to me, like another con job!



24 May 2017 08:32:32
Ed, that was genius changing the word I had put to Kiernan.



{Ed001's Note - thank you.}

24 May 2017 09:02:24
This is utter nonsense by a paper struggling to fill the back pages, as the only story anyone is ever interested in is the Rangers. Garner, Tav and Windass have been told they are part of Pedro's plans next term (Tav likely to be utilised in midfield)



24 May 2017 09:41:14
Paper talk nonsense! Halliday would be first out door! He's meant to be rangers man ( honestly) rangers men would have stood up and been counted in a team like this season but he hid from the responsibility, because let's be honest that's why he was brought in the first place because he was rangers man



24 May 2017 10:06:19
What the Record are really saying that if the right offer comes in any player can go. Expect a few to go to Notts Forest. and a few mid-lower league clubs would snap up a few of the others as basically that's the level they are. Windass is a funny one. His pace and movement is superb but his end product is abysmal. But you have to remember only a year or 2 ago Arsenal and other EPL Clubs were interested in him (reported in the media btw) so he must av something. Reckon he'd go to a decent championship side for a good few bob if we sell him



24 May 2017 10:07:06
And enough, with the mckay still young tosh. He's been in the first team for 4 years, albeit on loan a couple of times (wasn't even getting a game there every week! )
He is doing the same now as 4 years ago, going past defenders, occasionally! !, scoring a goal occasionally but far too often posted missing
get rid



24 May 2017 10:18:33
Bil72, McKay is a winger, tell me a winger out there that isn't world class and performs week in week out. Even Davie Cooper was inconsistent (No I am not comparing their abilities)



24 May 2017 11:00:11
How can crooks be on a transfer list? Is he not out for 9 months with an ACL injury?



24 May 2017 11:20:24
Mackay would be a great player with good players round about him. Just like Coops was. Coops was my hero and best player i ever saw in a Rangers shirt, but in the early 80s. when we were worse than we are at the minute Coops was poor on a regular basis. the odd cracking game like cup final replay in 81.but quite often he wasnt interested. it was only when Souness came with better players he started to flourish again. quite often mackay beats a man then looks up and there is no one in the box. He needs supporr to flourish.



24 May 2017 11:21:26
Onlyshow, I think he is very consistent. He's doing the same now as he was when Fraser Aird was on the other wing. He has not in my opinion improved any. once teams flood the midfield and double up on him he goes missing. Even 1 on 1 with speed he seldom does anything constructive.
He has had his chance to kick on, he hasn't taken it.



24 May 2017 11:47:06
I see the supposed leak has been plugged successfully then.



24 May 2017 11:48:55
Chinabairn, although we weren't exactly great in the early 80s, I am not sure if we were worse than now. Currently reading Ian Redford's book, and as he points out, at that time Aberdeen, Celtic and Dundee Utd were relatively strong and each won the league at least once. We won a fair few cups in that time, we just didn't have endurance for long league campaigns.

We certainly had better players in the day. Cooper, Bett, Russell and Redford for instance. We also had a few too many older players, but at the time, Rangers were offering less money than the other clubs around them. The reason Wallace left after his 2nd treble was due to funding.



24 May 2017 12:33:04
just2see, We haven't if you believe the media. Which personally I do not. Caixinha has stated he wants to keep McKay and Garner yet they are on the list? What's that I smell?



24 May 2017 14:20:16
There were better players at Rangers back in the eighties than we have now. Guys like Redford were significantly better than guys like Halliday and Holt



24 May 2017 16:04:29
Possibly a wee ploy by Pedro to confirm who leak is, mention the list of names and fees to suspected leak and see if they run to the Rhebel.



24 May 2017 19:58:31
Redford god rest his soul was garbage. As was Gordon Dalziel John Mcdonald sandy clark dave mitchell an old Forsyth n Jackson n Mcclean. Mcloy Jim Stewart hugh burns alex miller gregor stevens and a fat derek johnstone craig patterson. list is endless. either past it or just mince. only had the odd good un. Bett Prytz Mclelland Coops mcminn at times and once in a while the young coisty. I don't know what age u guys are but i saw it close up and overall we were garbage.



25 May 2017 07:33:51
Joe Dodoo has to go on that list, never cut it at Rangers



25 May 2017 11:00:40
listen wingers and strikers thrive on confidence and if we are being beat and inconsistant every week then they will be the same but in a good team with a solid backbone i think our more talented players like mckay can turn their careers around i mean look at james forrest last year would hardly have got a game for hibs but this year he has been electric and that's all to do with confidence and brenda's man management skills.

hopefully pedro can do the same with our youth



25 May 2017 11:07:07
Onlyshow - the very point I have been making for ages. Thank you



25 May 2017 11:58:16
if these are the true amounts that the club are wanting then we are undervaluing some of them in my opinion we should be requesting 2 million for garner and tavenier with sell on percentage for tavenier and mackay should be sold for nothing less than 3 million with sell on josh windass at least 1 million the rest i would sell for small fees or release



24 May 2017 01:01:15
Ipswich to make a bid of 500,000 for joe garner I'd say sell him for that.



24 May 2017 01:25:27
Rangers should bite their hand off, the guys useless!



24 May 2017 06:13:32
Wouldn't say he useless we don't play a system that suits him we probably should never have bought him



24 May 2017 07:27:41
Correct sebofg! Playing with a nippy strike partener you would see totally different player



24 May 2017 08:28:44
It will cost us a lot more than £500,000 to replace him unless we are planning to bring in a lesser player or Pedro has managed to do some magic and bring in a Portuguese, Mexican or Argentinian Internationalist using the old pals act.

Either that or King has conned the support yet again and we won't see any quality coming in through the front door and it will be another season of rubbish!



25 May 2017 01:31:01
oh man i so hope this is true. Aye take the 500k, we obviously know we would take a loss anyway



25 May 2017 07:26:22
I'd like to see garner get one more season with more creative players around him



25 May 2017 09:49:28
Bite their hands off for a £1 million loss? Get real mate! He's one of our better players and one of the only few with the desire to be a winner. Players like McKay who have no fight should be first to go.



25 May 2017 11:03:43
tomusa u say lesser player but ican play better than garner i'm bigger physically strong and neither of us are any good with the ball at our feet so i'd say i'm better and i'm never a footballer. not kicked a ball in over a year at least lol.

the guy isn't useless though he could be good in the wwe.



 
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