Rangers Rumours Archive March 27 2012

27 Mar 2012 22:29:32
RFFF hits 250k. Keep it going Bears. WATP. LB

Maybe soon the police might get paid, or who knows the groundsmen

That can go straight to keeping aluko

Fraction of Hearts dues of £800k for Wallace, keep it up, only £95million to go!
And none of it is the fans bills.
It's David Murrays debt, he's worth £500million. Why are poor people digging deep for 250k?

Thats a pound each from every one of your 250,000 fans that went to Manchester ... Must dig deeper........Stevie

This is a huge wake up for the bidders. Your CVA models based on fans buying shares are all flawed. There isn't anywhere near £20million out here with fans.
As the team diminishes, you can forget huge season ticket take up to watch losing games with youth players, we want superstars and Euro glory.

There wont be until we know where the cash is going.... ok ive donated but until i know for sure it aint buying whyte a gucci suit, i aint pledging big amounts.. honest but true craig+babybear

That's 1/4 of D&P bill..come on guys dig deeper...thanks.
Mr Clark

250k......wouldn't buy you Martin Bain at £608k per year.

David murray is now only worth 100m. his companies suffered badly in recession.

What happened to the australian guy who pledged £1 million

Daily Record today saying D&P racking up £3m in fees. Mention possibility of 10 point deduction next season for still being in admin. due diligence to take months on 5 bids. No bidders have even scrutinised books yet! Howcan anyone bid without looking through the books BEFOREHAND.

David Murray still owns properties all around the world. Including a spacious pad in Monaco? (same building as someone?)..
He has two vineyards in France. Guess the family dynasty and legacy will be wine and not football.

The fund hits £250k. Well done !
So where is this money going ?
Its 5% of the £5M CW pledged to Fatface each year for the next 5 years. Dont see that happening now.
Use it to buy Aluko ? He will be gone at the end of the season whith the rest of the Prima-Donnas............ Thats a bit harsh actually, forgot big Giraffe thinks you're still the best team in Scotland. Was he watching a 15 point lead slip, out of ALL cup competitions. Think not!
Remember Fat Sally said he dropped Aluko because of a dip in form. His form has kept RFC in 2nd place single handedly, then again, what does he know? Hes too busy being Mr Nice Guy for the press. Being nice does not win you prizes.

To the above poster stop having a go at ally going take a look at ur own managers behaviour first - allys won more as a player and an assistant manager than any of your lot - and like neil lennon he will need more than his first season to get it right you clown!!

Gers1986

You's need more buckets and bigger pockets,plus the 250,000 that went to manchester to buy more of your wee flags that way you can pay D&P because no one is getting any money till there wages are in the bank.So lets get your a*se in gear and get the money out......b

That's 23 days that we have paid for the administrators.

£250,000 sorry to say darlington raise the same amount come on bears a £1 for every one who were in machester poor show

27 Mar 2012 18:54:49
I feel with Ness, fleck, Hutton and macabe coming through its time to cash in on mo edu, not going slag the guy to much but don't think we need him.

Edu doesn't get the credit he deserves! Was at the game on Sunday we were 3-0 up and edu was chasing everything!! His work rate is second to none, only thing I would say that he gives away to many silly balls.

Why post this now? the squad will be totally recycled in the summer anyway

Dont agree. Watched the game on Sky. 1st time i heard Edus name was 22 mins. Strolling around the center circle. 1st half passed him by. Maybe in the 2nd half when Tic were way off the pace, made him look a player. Never rated him never will.

Fleck ?????? Id have edu anyday he may not be the most skillfull player but he works his socks of for the team

Fleck was looking good before we put him out on loan. Don't know why some bears dont like him, he is still only 20.

J

Ps really like the look of McCabe and ness. Not sure about Hutton to be totally honest but I'll give him time.

J

Edu has the edge guys and has done his job well this season looks like as if he has done nothing but as Defending Midfielder his role is to mop up and pass the ball on he has done that had bad games along with rest davis has been worse .. Edu has experience that youngsters lack

Agree totally with 3rd reply. If players hadnt been sent off i wouldnt have noticed he was there. He had nowhere to hide, really nice guy but too nice to play his role.

His 2nd touch is a tackle.
His passes are consistantly awful, 5 yard passes only get about 2 yards.
It's all fine and well saying he works hard, but he doesn't do anything, he just runs about. Anyone who is fit and has 2 legs can do that. He is a nice guy but he does nothing productive, so dodgy its unreal. Replace him with McCabe!

Cant be east for Edu he gets pelters before he even touches the ball in home games

Got to be careful here putting too much expectation on the kids. They will have good games here and there but still need experience for the long hard season

Fleck? done nothing in a rangers jersey. Ness is excellent but cannot play 4 games in a row, hutton was average before going to partick and dunfermline on loan and McCabe has had 1 good 60 mins! you need to have a FULL season consistantly playing well before you sell established players, thankfully your are not the manager!

Hutton has been on the subs bench for partick and fleck isn't doing much at the mighty blackpool so how can u possibly think they are the future of rangers. they are at best average and ness can't string together 2 games without getting injured.

Edu like so many at rangers is total minse.

Have them all. Depth in the squad.

Whats minse?

To be honest I have watched Edu all year and honestly rate him as one of our better players. He is athletic and the workrate the boy puts in is unreal, not to mention his tackling is always strong and he never gets sent off for silly fouls. I know its extremely optimistic but I would love Davis, Edu and McCabe to be in the middle next year. With Edu's workrate and tackling, Davis calm on the ball, passing and starting to come onto a game and McCabe's passing and energy we could really be onto a decent side IF we can hang onto them

For me, a young midfield squad including Ness, Hutton, McCabe and Fleck marshalled by the experience of Davis and the return of Naismith would be a pretty exciting start to next season. Throw in Perry and Cole at the back and Hemmings up front!

I have watched hemmings particularly at youth level and i hate to be cruel but he is not the answer. same applies to hutton who is nothing but ordinary.

The fact rangers are down to the bare bones upfront and having to play mcculloch up top tells me that ally doesn't rate hemmings. the occassional times he has played he has flattered to deceive.i just hope a buyer comes soon cos there's a lot of dross in the team.

27 Mar 2012 16:18:40
Explosive statement just released by St Mirren.

"It has come to the attention of the Board of Directors of St Mirren Football Club Limited that a meeting took place in our Boardroom in November 2011. This meeting was attended by Mr Ken McGeoch, Mr Paul Davies and Mr Gary Withey, Company Secretary of Rangers Football Club Limited.

During the meeting Mr Withey had sight of and inspected commercially sensitive documents of St Mirren Football Club. At one point during the meeting the Club’s General Manager was brought into the meeting and asked various questions including whether or not the Club used Employee Benefit Trusts (E.B.T.s).

As a Director of the Company, Mr McGeoch had every right to inspect such documents. The Board, however, consider that his decision to show these documents to an Office Holder of another SPL club is a serious breach of trust and an error of judgement.

In light of the information available to the Board, they have asked Mr McGeoch to resign his position as a Director of the Company with immediate effect. Should he fail to do so within the next 48 hours, we regret the Company shall be forced to call, at the Club’s expense, an Extraordinary General Meeting of the Company to consider this matter further.

The selling consortium of St Mirren directors were not informed of Mr Withey or Collyer Bristow’s involvement with Mr McGeoch until January 2012, at which point it had concerns over the involvement of Mr Withey."

Source: St Mirren FC Website

More grief to come from SFA then.....

RFC were considering buying St Mirren?

Wow! That'll have Chick twitching!

Aren't rangers a plc ? As in public limited company and not rangers ltd?

Not sure how an error of judgement by an official of another SPL club means more trouble for Rangers.

Hmmmm dirty dealings involving a Rangers Director?

Does that mean if they remove 1 of the stands at st mirrens ground chic will be able to see ibrox better onlt time ive seen chic speechless when he passed me in a-da and id 8 cases of lager in my trolley

This old news. Story broke about 10 days ago. St Mirren have been looking for a new buyer for a while. Someone at St Mirren twigged about Gary Withey's involvement the buddies cancelled the talks. Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone if Withey (Whyte's pal) was looking to buy St Mirren should it?, Liquidation has been Whyte's plan from day one.
Stevie-A-Bear

Rangers are a Plc, there's a lot of fans own shares as well as former managers and directors. But Craig Whyte has 85%.

Was this the way back into the spl if we are liquidated

What I personally think is Rnagers were looking into buying St.Mirren as a fall back on it going sour at Rangers and the walls tumbling in...as Whyte kept saying he will be seen to be the saviour of Rangers, he knew Rangers were finished when he took over and knew he would get a handsome price for all the assets at Rangers, by snapping up St.Mirren(why else was he in the back ground of the inquiry) he could emerge as the "saviour" of Rangers. St. Mirren would have been tossed aside and rebranded with the permission of the SPL/SFA without them have to press for any sanctions as they are not Rangers and so cannot be punished for anything.......

SPL and SFA need to immediately investigate this to underpin confidence and integrity of league. I can think of two regs which may have been breeched.

27 Mar 2012 11:40:05
any news on tax case verdict

Nothing before Easter

Yes you will lose.................every Hector who does not have his or her head in the sand knows that.

Thanks for that timmy you obviously are someone with vast knoweledge on such matters and have an assortment of high level contacts within legal circles to be know the result of the ongoing tax dispute
Well done

There's no way out of Ticketus and HMRC, wishful thinking, hoping for powerful help from friends, wealthy individual, forget all of above.
Not going to happen.
Bye bye

After Easter now before we"ll hear

Whit wan are ye referring tae?

The bottom line is that this case is so complex neither rangers or HMRC can say with any certainty if they will have a successful outcome
so its frustrating to see comments from people who have no idea of any financial issues more complex than having the ability to claim their benefits!

Be fair...have you seen a benefit claim form lately

I work hard for my money mate and dont need to wait for the state to subsidise me or my family so have never had a need to fill a benefits form in.

But good to know you have the experstise and experience to help if ever the need arises


Cheers

No News! but The Samaritans have asked that you all stop calling, there are deserving people out there requiring this service.
It not suitable for people who support a corrupt little football club, who are not prepared to accept whatever consequence if any is coming.

Belittling individuals on benefits in this current economic climate is particularly distasteful, but perhaps typical of a section of your support.

I only belittle people who make a career out of miliking the state dry at the expense of hard working individuals!
We all have hard times including my little club but the last i heard was that we hadn't been found guilty of anything upto this point!!

Unless of course you with your vast knowledge of all matters legal and financial can impart your wisdom on us

Look forward to you informing the public of your findings ASAP as your superior knowledge can allow a financial audit to be complete in time to hand to UEFA by March 31st which allows Rangers to compete in Europe next year

You've been a great help today timmy in helping rangers find out their fate


What a wonderful and highly talented individual you are

Wisen up. The pc police on a noticeboard. I give in

You are in admin because you are guilty,you never paid millions in tax this year guilty you never paid clubs this year guilty so at this point how can you say you are not guilty grt real....b

Have a wonderful evening Timmy

PC police? cant quite understand what you mean by that so once again i feel imay have to bow to your superior knowledge and await further enlightenment from your goodself

You can,t compete in europe in the 3rd division and liquidation!And anyone under any illusions that your team will walk away from ticketus and taxman just read scotslawthoughts.wordpress and they,ll soon put ye right!Another wee tip maybe ye could hire one of the guest lawyers on here as yer own are masters of losing every case they go to court with lol

I thought liquidation means you seace to exist ? So how can we play in the 3rd division and seace to exist ?. Get your facts right timmy boy before you come on here and talk utter rubbish. Pennyboy

Rangers have been found guilty of the small tax case (circa £4.5m plus interest) accepted that guilt and that penalty.
They are also guilty of not paying PAYE and VAT for 9 months up to last month.
They are also guilty of oweing about another £3m to other creditors and football clubs.
They are about to be guilty of BTC which will sink them but Ticketus will sink them anyway.

Well mr hard worker ive been employed since 1963 and most of it self employed never been unemployed but hmrc made me bankrupt in december 2011 so does that make me a milkman ? there rules are pay immediately or we bankrupt you there guidlines are too high for a recession going on doug

Aye ! still no paid

Why are you so concerned about our financil situation timmy ? Concentrate on your own. Thought you didnt care about the animals(as you sing in your song). so go and do me a foavour. get a manager that can actually manage his team. and a captain that can actually captain a team. and a chief exec that not a numpty. WATP

Ok i'll do that when you get an owner that pays the bills, oh and a manger that can win more than 1 cup game out of 7 and that doesnt throw away a 15 point lead in the league

Well I know the HMRC main witness was the guy who do e the contracts .they also have a trail of e mails left by agents.

Like it Timalloy keep them wound up they will implode and all the Super Ally brigade laughable have u took 1 deck at his record sooo funny VEG

I'm pretty sure it was only ever 9points. Green tinted glasses eh, always trying to make yourselves look superior.
28attempts to 6attempts on goal. Who's superior? Oh and just to put it out there.........WHEN I THINK OF CELTIC, I JUST CAN'T LAUGH ENOUGH, I JUST CAN'T LAUGH ENOUGH. Let's all do a poznan.

Leeroy

Since all the celtic fans who pop on to our rumours forum seem to have a vast knowledge and unlimited accees to evidence of Rangers v HMRC im just a bit confused as to why none of them were never invited or came forward during the legal investigation to impart their knowledge

27 Mar 2012 11:25:52
ESPANYOL are weighing up a summer swoop for Rangers star Sone Aluko.
However jimmy calderwood who keeps in regular contact with aluko says he loves life at rangers and would turn down moves elsewhere. We must do everything we can to tie soni up on a new contract, he is by far the best player we have and the only one who actually excites the fans.

Heard the same with Weiss last year, aluko is a goner.

Defo should get him tied up coz hes been brill for rangers since coming in come on the teddy bears

Weiss was all show and no end product unlike aluko. the fact he paid to play for rangers speaks volumes about the lad. hope he's rewarded with a new contract.

I fear that Sunday will be the highlight of Alukos Rangers careers as with perhaps many of them this was a great opportunity to put themselves in the shop window for when they become available in the summer.

Weiss was on loan, so we would have had to pay something like £4m for him!

Aluko is not on loan, just a new contract needed, the boy deserves it too, the one bright spark at Ibrox just now!

Aluko wants to be in a Gers shirt. Hes not a high earner and should we come out of Admin for the summer I would bank on him still being at ibrox next season he is easily the best player in our team this year and only a complete idiot would let an asset like him walk away. He is probably the only player we have who could be the differance between winning and loosing in every game and im afraid we would struggle massively to replace him. Unfortunatly my friend Weiss not short on end product he had the highest assist rate in the SPL last season he was jus too expensive and earned too much for us to bring him in on a long term basis. Had these been better days though the thought of Weiss and Aluko in the same team does seem rather exciting =)

Blue Stu

So long as we at least try to keep him.

The only way youll tie aluko up is with a
big bit of rope else hell be offski

Sone was the only player at Ibrox cheering when the wage cuts came in(he saved himself a few bob) He has done well for you but has also been in the shop window it will be onwards and upwards but not with Rangers

Sone Aluko is immense and has been a superb piece of business by coisty. As soon as we get taken over we will get him signed up. He loves playing on the. It stage and e deserves it .

J

J taken over thats a joke....rangers on on the way to closing down....out of business...the lad will then be sold to pay something to the creditors.....enjoy the last few weeks of Rangers 1873....they will soon be history.....very dated history. {Ed001's Note - if Rangers fold, the players will have no contract and can not be sold to return money to the creditors.}