Rangers Rumours Archive March 03 2012

 

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03 Mar 2012 20:30:05
Once again, well done to Rangers, the fans show their support but you can't give them something to cheer about. Tell you what, the cull couldn't happen quick enough for me, those clowns don't deserve a wage never mind taking a pay cut. We're asked to turn out in our numbers, what for? I just want this nightmare to end asap.

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We done our bit today poor result

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I think it is difficult for everyone at the moment , I have been critical of the team all season for me there has been no pattern or strategy , some of the players are just not good enough .At the moment I'm more interested on what's happening off the field so I'm prepared to cut them some slack .I have worked for a company and have been told I was at risk of redundancy did I concentrate on my work while that was hanging over me ,no chance.We can deal with the football later .

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Would you have been able to put on a show today if you knew that you were going to be sacked in a day or 2 ?. No money to pay bills etc, bearing in mind we are not the biggest paying football club. Emotions are running high, but we need to stick together.

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Once again - Walk AWay it's the Rangers Way.

70 minutes gone .............. right lads head for the exits.

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We may only be in administration for a couple weeks , but the running down of the club has been happening for the last two years of mr murrys reign , what we have is honest journymen who may not be of the Rangers class of the past but carry the flag for us through this difficult period in our history ......

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In tragic times what a CLOWN you are i wonder were you at Inverness last Sunday .I think you and I know the answer.As always WATP .

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Like it or not Ally has to stand up & be counted and take this opportunity to get rid off players we don't need or aren't up to it

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The players are doing their best. We just lack a couple of quality players (esp a striker) and have had a few bad key decisions against us.

When you're down, you just don't get any breaks, as witnessed in the last couple of home games. It almost as if the refs are deliberately against us at the moment. The officials have been shocking in the last couple of home games.

Hey ho .... we'll get through this.

WATP

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I would not complain about the quality of players this season, it seems all the highest paid will leave on Monday, and on March 16th there will be no players.
I never thought liquidation was possible now its a certainty.

Tragic.

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Maybe if the refs wern't trying to stick the boot in also results would have gone our way
watp

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Over the top !!

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I can't believe we've sunk to blaming refs!!
That's over the east ends excuses!
If these guys who cost millions can't do it against a team less than 30% of the cost, what chance have we going forward with less player budget?

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We cant blame the refs we have not played good football

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These the same refs that shafted everyone but Rangers all through last season. What goes around comes around, well now they're not on your pay roll they're not going to be doing Rangers any favours

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Greedy players let them go they have been shocking

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The Rangers havent played football sence Steven Naismith has been injured.

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DM & CW gambled admin with a good tax result might reduce costs pay pennies in the pound on debt and save the club.
They knew more likely that it had to be liquidation. The idea was to do a good old switcheroo on debt and syphon off funds to start newco whilst protecting assets.
Fans reaction to admin and 10 points underestimated.
Now fraud squad, law lord and highest politicians involved its all gone pear shaped with everybody doing the correct thing an duff and phelps getting their hands on the planned newco money....disastrous.

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3,000 short

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A decent display much the better team turn up next time and you'd know that

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At least naisey tries not like some others hiding

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Davis has been good too this season

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Everything was going great at the end of october then we had the uncertainty of jelevic just went pear shape from there did the players know this was coming ? or have they been found out i just cant understand what has went on its baffling to say the least

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With regards to administration, now hoping to come out by 04 August . The start of next season ! Must be difficult for the players. However, I still think they ALL should be putting themselves in the shop window so therefore should be playing out of their skins.

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Just have to say i thought the team played better yesterday than i have seen in a long time mccabe was gr8 so lets just get thro this without picking on our team too much its not like hearts played us of the park?

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The players have been s**te for 3 sesons just carrying lots of luck. as for worrying about their jobs and money aye right they might have to sleep in their top of the range bmws and bentleys.

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Might just be me but I actually thought that we played well. Dominated the 1st half. Additionally black shouldn't have been on the park to score his goal, we got done out of a penalty & they were gifted with one. Terrible show by ref.

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F*** off, what do you want the players to do, PRETEND LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED, they could lose their jobs, so considering the circumstances they played well, and also the fans did not do their part if they jst walk out! t**ts calling themselves rangers fans, we didnt have a very strong team playing either and at least it was hearts and not dunfermline

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Mate, if you are a Rangers supporter, then you are a total disgrace of one. Your kind, and you DO exist, thank goodness in a small minority, disgust me and the thousands of true Rangers men in Scotland and across the world. You are not part of the Rangers Family, by default. You do not have any idea of what it is to be a Ranger. You call the players clowns ? They are bigger men than you will ever be. You are a mouse. A disgrace. And that's worse than being a Celtic supporter on the wind up.

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May I suggest the clowns are not on the park or the terraces.

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Fair point but the results have been dire since the end of october long before the admistration of the club some player have just not performed to rangers standards i dont know how this happened either no motivation or bad management ps i go to home and away games

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03 Mar 2012 20:24:56
How did Rhys McCabe play today?

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Ok : 6/10. Set up Little for a chance. Tired a bit in the last quarter. Can be pleased with his debut.

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Good luck to the lad he looked as good as the big earners well done

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Who???????

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Done well kicked black a couple of times and looked for the killer pass.Our most creative player hope he starts again next game

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I'm from polbeth, as is Rhys, Rhys is best mates with my nephew, he's a cracking laddie and a cracking player, i'm a celtic man but i wish the laddie all the best. we've tried prising info out of him but he's giving nothing up

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Didn't look out of place & apart from tiring in last quarter was one of best players

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03 Mar 2012 20:17:35
It makes me sick to the stomach.
All these so called supporters on giving
Ally grief. Do you not think that he has
enough on his plate at the moment?
His and our beloved Gers are going
down the tubes, through no fault of
his! or ours. He was a fanstastic
manager when we were 15 clear! I
honestly believe that the current
situation has played a massive part
in seeing that overturned. At this god
awful time we should be posting
messages of hope and support NOT
slating a man i still call LEGEND. Under
normal circumstances, the Gers would
have run away with this Title and lets
not forget the man has hardly had a
bean to spend! Highland League, 3rd
division, whatever. i will always be a
BEAR. watp

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Lmao,please explain how it was cicumstances that blew a 15 point lead,apart from 1 injury?????????????inept manager,fact!!!!!!,stevo

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Well remember we were 15points clear in november before the admin rangers fans have a right to say i think they are talking about the fitbaw not the man

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Rangers are to blame for their own situation. The rangers support 'demanded' big spendings even though you couldn't afford it. Even though your finances were bad you still spent FOUR MILLION on Jelavic when we spent two million on Hooper. In addition the old and new regime played fast and loose with your tax obligations. Rangers fans, directors, players had it coming. I feel sorry for the ordinary worker though.

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Don't ever remember anyone saying he was a fantastic manager when rangers were 15 clear. Early exits in 2 european tournaments to 2 sides that were below average and a cup defeat to a first division side is hardly the work of a fantastic manager. Your right he hasn't had much to spend however he has had more than the Malmo coach the Maribor coach and the Falkirk coach. Ally maybe a legend as a player but clearly he isn't going to be as a Manager

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First and foremost i DO honestly as a geniune football fan feel for yous......but i think you are forgetting one thing here. the 15 point gap was well overturned before yous entered administration. celtic are winning the title fair and square,because we have been the better team!! now hopefully yous true geniune rangers fans will admit that celtic are winning the title because we are the better team ,and stop all this nonsence that you would have run away with the title if you didnt go into administration! time to play fair now......im a celtic fan,but honestly feel for yous,and for scottish football, but celtic more or less was on the way to the title when we won on the 28th dec,and went top.so be fair and stop all excuses. as celtic deserve the title and the credit for their comeback!

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So we are so-called for having an opinion ? ur an idiot mate toodle on


TB

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So CELTIC winning 19 on the trot nothing to do with the league table?

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Ally lost the 15 point lead and more before all this stuff happened. He is not up to the job relied too heavily on naismith and jelavic he has made the other players worse leave now Ally

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Question is really

Who was part of the "EBT" scheme... if ally was getting 50% more wages - is he part of the problem ?

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You blew the 15 point lead BEFORE admin and BEFORE Jelavic was sold.

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What a load of nonsense.the league was over in october,remember? the points were won back before admin,and your lead was due to celtic injurys and bad form........green jhedi

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We were 15 points cleas due to Walter setting up the system and style of play. After he left the same team continued same style. Then as Ally started to change things it went to s@@t. The early run was Walter's legacy.

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He has spent more money than Lenny...FACT! He has not signed a decent player to date...FACT! So get your FACTS right before you post your p!ss. I Really really hope he stays the guys a dud.

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If we end up playin on the streets-i for one will be supporting from the paths! w.a.t.p!!

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Stevo

You're a disgrace !

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I posted exactly the same criticsims many years ago on Man U forums about that dud Ferguson! Give Ally a chance. The 15 point lead was mostly down to Septic playing pish. He needs at least two 'normal' seasons before we can judge.
Billy

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Out of all the cups also!

He was a great player but................

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The football has been terrible since november not good enough

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"I posted exactly the same criticsims many years ago on Man U forums about that dud Ferguson!" Oh dear! Oh dear! Billy I think your telling porkies! Man utd won their first league in 92-93 and kicked on from there w

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"I posted exactly the same criticsims many years ago on Man U forums about that dud Ferguson!" oh dear! Oh dear! Billy I think your telling porkies! Ferguson won his first title in 92-93 and kicked on from there. So when you think about it forums were not really around prior to that if at all! So how did you communicate with man utd fans back in the day? I would really like to know was it by cb radio perhaps or maybe carrier pigeon? I'm sure you will let us know. Back up your manager if you wish to do so but don't make up stories along the way.

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Admin has saved his job. Fact. I'm willing to give him a chance but theres no denying he's been gash so far mate. And to the guy who said Ally spent more than Lenny. Absolute bull.

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We only have ourselves to blame we have shot ourselves in the foot not good enough 2nd half of the season has been below par

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Remember fellow gers fans we are allowed an opinion we might not all agree

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Back mccoist.

Legend.

No other rangers manager has had to work in these conditions

I have a great deal of pride being a rangers fan - from the glory years of the 90s thru to the shambles we have to endure at the moment.

Its not down to ally.

Great quote from him - my best memory of being a ranger wasn't the title wins, or europe - it was when we lost the Scottish cup final in the lady game of what was a legendary side. The emotion in the dressing room afterwards as gough, laudrup, ferguson, McCall etc were all due to leave. Rangers will always prosper.

I remember watching that game, will never forget it.

Right now rangers arent prospering that's for sure - you know what, we will endure, and we will return. No doubts there.

Ally, you're a legend. You've dealt with this terrible period in our history with pride and dignity, you personify how I feel about our club.

Thank you Mr McCoist.

AS

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Shame on you. Walter had some poor euro results as did Dick a . Still went on to win.trebles. careful what and who you wish for. We are in the s**t. Do you think a Dick or plg would have stuck around
After all this s**t ? No nor me. I know everyone is entitled to an opinion. But do you think ally has had a fair crack of it? Like souness or Walter or Dick or plg? Didn't think so. Seems irrelevent now doesn't it?

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Firstly, in my opinion, I think it is clearly Rangers, ally, players or otherwise that hv out us in the table situation we are in just now. To throw a 15 point lead away is unforgivable! However, I also think it smart of hypocrisy that celtic fans have the cheek to come on here and say they have win the title fair and square, with all the 16, 18 wins in a row, however many it is, have put them where they are. Granted, that may well be the case. However, at least 2 of the last league title wins by Rangers have not been won by Rangers but been thrown away by celtic in their eyes.... Loss at Inverness etc. so please tell me how, throwing away a 15 point lead, esp under the circumstances, is no different, celtic winning the league and rangers not throwing ur away?! Double standards I think that's called. But then again, everyone is against celtic, I forgot!
Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, Get over it and concentrate on your own team mate!
J

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You say I'm talking bull for saying Sally spent more than lenny don't think so noddy read it and weep: JuanOrtiz £0.5m,Lee Wallace£1.5m,Dorin goin £0.8m,Alejandro Bedoya£0.4m,bocanegra £0.4m,Matt McKay£0.32m,Sone Aluko£0.15m , Çelik £0.24m= £4.32m Total

Wanyama £0.9 bangura £2.2m =£3.1m total. The other signings were pre contract and cost zilch so I'm afraid your wrong as with most things so wake up noddy your manager is a dud there's isnt even a half decent signing in amongst that lot he signed.

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The uncertainty of administration was hanging over the club well before it happened. The guys right, there are bigger things to focus on just now than how good or bad a manager he is. Coist has had nothin but misfortune. The guy needs our support. He is hurtin just as much as us. Watp

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Our team has been punching above its weight for years. This year was a must for investment. We didnt get a bean! All we got was a pack of lies, how can any manager in his first year contend with that, especially when its coming from the owner! Craig whyte wainted ally to fail, is that not clear!

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Looking at the stats hes worse than plg

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Feelings are running high just now we are a big family we all have our disagreements open discussion is always good ally might end up being a good manager its hard to tell going on the last 3 months the team has not clicked its always good to gage a reaction and good debate every rangers fan has a right to free speech wither they think ally is a good or bad manager

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Lennon also signed Daryl Murphy (0.8), Efran Juarez (3), Gary Hooper (2.4), Kayal (1.2), Izaguire (0.6), Stokes (1.2), Commons (0.6).

That totals another 9.8mil. Through in the fees involved for the likes of lunch box Freddie and you are well, well over 10mil.

McCoist would be kicking himself if he spent that amount and we were in our current plight. Now.....trot on back to our own board. We will judge McCoist after the non-football men have cleaned up their mess.

aka Fleece-E-B

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Wasnt a great game today i think its time ally brought in some of the younger lads the big earners have not shown any fighting spirit we the fans are doing our bit

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With greatest respect to ally hes doing his best im not getting on the guys tail but not manager material just being honest always knew it would be impossible to replace walter and i got slated from some friends when i said this

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Last word: Ally earns 20k a week over 52 weeks that's one million and forty grand a year! That's our ticket money. Are we getting value from him? He bumped us from 5 tournaments, high revenue streams. I don't even earn the 40 grand but I'm putting in to Rangers, He's taking out a fortune and all I've got is 5 words: we don't do walking away........I really wish he would.

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We're talking about this season ya numpty! Mccoist wasn't manager when Lenny signed those players how far do you want to go back? Sir wally signed jellyfish for £4m,big laughable for £3.5m McCulloch for £2m+ amongst many others so his total is well over £10m so that makes your post a bit stupid! So why don't you get your head back in the sand ostrich.

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Is this the way every game it ibrox is now we turn up to watch with our hard earned cash not to get a product 3 defeats in a row shocking come on players do your bit

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We are being short changed alround poor team display again no one giving any answers we the fans deserve better

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We need rangers minded players bring in the fringe players who will play with a bit of passion

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I love that the supporter status is questioned when someone chooses to voice concern about the club. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is face up to the negatives and promote change. To be fair my disclaimer is that Ally and his team may not have been given a fair crack of the whip especially when u consider the very saddening admin process that has come from this season.

However, with that said where is the talent that Murray park was supposed to produce. Surely the various coaching teams and managers are responsible for the youth not getting a chance. The old excuse of the old firm not being able to risk loss through fielding inexperienced players does not fly. I bet Arsenal would wipe the floor with all spl teams with their youth policy. Instead we waste money on ortiz, bedoya, emerson, capucho etc. Poor transfer signings and no emerging talent from youths must lie with the many managers responsibility.

The goldfish bowl of the old firm does not help. Charlie Adam is playing for lfc in the epl and doing well. Furhtermore, many top managers in the epl are scottish so we can not simply blame scotland for the situation.

I personally hope we can not buy another dud again. Perhaps these financial times will force us to give youth a chance. Let's just hope our coaches and manager can actually develop talent and give it a chance. This has been the biggest failing of rangers and perhaps has contributed to always spending to solve our problems.

The bottom line is I support Rangers and will always pat to watch them regardless of rough times and crap performances, but is it wrong to discuss ways to improve. I hope the future is bright as it can't get much worse.

P.s. ally does deserve great credit for being the face of our survival efforts standing up for the club, players and fans. Best of luck to him.

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I think some gers fans points is through the season we have failed to win in 9 games

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Next week will be tough on the manger i agree but we all have differnt views

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To J :Loss at Inverness etc. so please tell me how, throwing away a 15 point lead, esp under the circumstances, is no different, celtic winning the league and rangers not throwing ur away?! its different because we were 1 point off of winning the league so we threw it away by that lose, however yous were just shi@t and Celtic too good that yous gave up the 15 points thinking the league was over. but i doubt you would understand since it is so obvious...1 point compared to 15 hhhmm.

And for who ever said we dont have half decent players...aaa dont know what your watching but the awards and trophies will show you and your jelous because you know that we could get 80mil out of our squad, foor 3-4 could go for at least 10+, and epl has and will be calling...oooya right you had jellyfish go to epl, hows he doing? heard nothing, i guess when refs arn't given yous spot kicks he CANT score!! bye bye rankers {Ed001's Note - you know Jelavic has been injured right?}

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I said weeks ago outside of Dunfermline Ibrox is the easiest place to get points. Did the players not realize a win vs Hearts would have stopped Timmy winning the league here in a couple of weeks. Save the hard luck stories as the big earners will be even bigger earners when they are in the championship in a couple of weeks time.The are suppose to be professionals and have let the support down in the last 3 home games with the best backing in Britain!

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Would the last poster please give us a laugh and state the players who celtic could sell for 10+ million-us bears could do with cheering up

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Easy Southampton offered £6m for hooper for starters and if you add on £9m easy we would get for Forrest then that's £15m! Hope that's cheered you up... Infact I don't.. I hope it's made you feel worse.

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I am not a Celtic fan but to the poster that doubted any Celtic player being worth 10 million, you do not need to llok very far - Scottish born as well - James Forrest will go within the next two years and it will be for a lot more than 10 million - Want to bet - oops forgot you lot have no money......

Diamond Geezer

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We got to remember ally is on a million pounds per year

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I actually said players going for ten plus million, so hooper at six is not ten plus is it you clown-as for forrest he is a cracking player and may go for a lot of money in a few years-but i doubt teams would bid in excess of 10 million at the moment

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Best backing in Britain haha, how u figure that one. 75000 in old trafford, mug

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Your season turned on Naismith getting injured this and events thereafter are beyond McCoists control. You should get off his back as he was never been given a big transfer budget to get his own players in. He is holding your club together under very difficult circumstances .

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03 Mar 2012 20:15:53
No one in their right mind would pay off some other persons debt of 100 million pounds and get nothing back in return,but what if they paid of the debt and for that get to be the new owners of ibrox and then leased it back on a long term deal to the new board who could then put all there effort into building the team back up to the top.

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Why would someone pay £100m only to be left with Ibrox as an asset, when Ibrox is not worth £100m.

People with £100m to spend simply do not do deals like this.

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03 Mar 2012 19:39:30
To the idea of donating money to Rangers, I understand fans want to do that but who would the money really go to? Inflated administrators fees? Remember CW is still the owner can you guarantee it wont make its way to him?

Rangers fans need to organise a Trust with a figure head and the money is saved in a bank until the time that it is needed to save the club. Why do you think any of these 'Blue Knights havent put money in yet? Regardless of their allegiences they are business men.

The administration would just swallow up and waste and funds at the moment.

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The debts are out of control sad to say

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What a defeatest attitude. Do you think there will be much of our club left to save after Monday. The administrators are having to make cuts to keep the club solvent and yet we cannot get to contribute funds to help in this process. I hope that the 'SaveRangers' campaign is all about saving our club in its present form and not to ask fans to inject cash into a 'NewCo'. If that is the case my pledge will not be forthcoming. If Motherwell and Dundee FC fans were able to contribute when they were in administration why cant we ? If we sit on our backsides and not allowed to raise funds and it will be all over. SAVE Rangers FC not SUPPORT 'NewCo'

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Us fans want to do something helpful and positive but we're mugs if we put forward a penny right now. The suits will smile/laugh and gobble it up. I'm even worried with Paul Murray, he's no money himself and wants us to float him as chairman/ CEO prob on 400-600k per year and he's the old tainted EBT board.

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The SDM board's EBTs and huge Lloyds debt is the biggest scandal. Including their huge wages; Bain =£608k plus bonuses.
Then it's the huge Lloyds debt.
Then it's the other tax scandal, Paye, NIC, vat.
Then it's oweing other SPL clubs and others.
Then it's how Whyte bought the club using Ticketus.
That's the order of scandals and they are all still there to be dealt with. P Murray can't sort the above.

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Who exactly are the blue knights? They linked Brian Kennedy to them and he moved swiftly to dump that Idea. So we know it's p Murray and Dave King. So who else? And do they have £120millopn? Because the administrators will laugh them out the door. The rags don't speak for the Administrators. If duff and phelps need to say something they go public...they don't release their position through sports hacks.

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I think its time to face reality, the deadline for potential buyers is in 2 weeks. There is zero possibility of anyone buying a complete financial shambles, the debt figure could be anything.

DM and CW have sold RFC down the river, simply disgusting.

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To the post 'What a defeatest attitude'. I think you misunderstand, to give the money direct to the club would only put it in the hands of the administrators. Your only giving them more money towards their fees.

CW still is the preferred creditor and its possible he has rights to assets like the stadium and MP. Are you wanting to invest when he still has control of the club.

The club has to be made to work within its income first, which will require player redundancies. Then after that fans would have to consider buying the club from Whyte or getting rid of him legally.

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I'm a lifelong fan i pay my dues and I'm entitled to
My opinion. Why is the only fan option Paul Murray and Dave king ? They had there chance and blew it. They're sdm guys who voted on the board for EBTs and huge Lloyds debt on approving every player contract. Bad managers directors. Oh and had there snouts in the trough. Need a fan option without them too.

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'Defeatest Attitude' as I said in my post, do we want to save our club and history, or contribute to a 'NewCo' ? - When will we get the opportunity to contibute and I would like the 'Save Rangers' group to clarify if their intention is to save the club pre-liquidation or hope that Mr Whyte is extricated from the club and then call on the pledges to help form a 'NewCo'. I suppose it will not be to long before they are forced to show thier hand and who's interests it serves best !!

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To the lifelong fan, did anyone say that PM and DK were the only fan option?
I was highlighting was if it was sensible to give administrators money wouldnt these guys have done it? I have no wish to see them at Rangers.

The club has a £1million deficit a month, if theres no wage or playing staff reductions are you proposing the fans keep paying this deficit every month forever as well paying all the normal costs?

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Your throwing money at a hole that cant be filled at the moment and will not solve problems in the long term. There is 15 million owed in tax and another potential tax bill. Let the administrator do their job and hopefully take it to a CVA that way fans can buy the club without liquidation.

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If there's a floatations or rights issue I'll concider it but not if pm and dk sit on the shares and make the decisions on a board.

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03 Mar 2012 19:24:09
Ally is the only one holding the fort,
and this has been the case from day
one! He's had no support at all from
the directors, and sad to say it, some
fans too. His first season in charge,
& he's the only True Blue left on board.
So get behind him.

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To be fair hes doing his best but we have just lost our last 3 home games

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He is a poor manager,great player

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Poor manager compared to walter smith let the truth be told not getting at the guy but the record is bad

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I blame the players we done our part today the fans going to the match i travelled from ayr today was a poor result i think the players should heve upted their game they have been lacking was hoping for a win at least today the players are too busy thinking about their wages what about the the expense some of the fans have encured times are hard for us too its the players who have let ally down not ally hes doing his best wheres the fighting spirit gone ?

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Well said, his record is hardly going to be dynamite with this shambles going on all around him. Ally has probably had to put up with far more problems re his playing staff than the public are aware of.

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Sorry to say but non of you could do any better, even walter would be struggling with this one, wait till we are through this and ally goes on to become one of the greatest managers in rangers history

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Ally got us beaten in 4 competitions very early on this season. The fifth competition, the SPL was a goner also before the 10 points. People say he remains because he's nothing to lose......it's all lost.

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Well said mate & to all the other posts sticking up for ally. Remember he is new to the job and needs time to adjust which we should give him. He breathes Rangers and at this difficult time I would rather have no one else at the helm. He has handled himself superbly. A word from the man himself.....

"At this moment in time we are wounded - there is no doubt about it.

"There are probably one or two people out there enjoying it, maybe one or two people having a wee fly kick.

"I would suggest to them to give a right good kick just now because we will not be where we are for a long time."

When asked if he wished to explain his comments further, he said: "Not really. It will just go down avenues that I don't really want to go down, to be honest with you.

"Let's just say, while we are down there, we are having a look up and we are seeing what we are seeing."

Good man ;-)

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Can anyone explain exactly what it is Ally has done to "hold the fort" during administration? The club is currently being run by the administrators and since administration Rangers have lost twice at home in front of bumper crowds. The performances against Kilmarnock and Hearts were terrible just as most performances have been at Ibrox this season. Why can't Rangers fans see that Ally is not the man for the job and all he has done since administration is come out with the line "we don't do walking away"

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Ally is the very best person that we could possibly have in charge, in these very difficult times. He's an ambassador for this club and has shown he's a leader. The players are clearly trying their best and have been very unlucky in the last couple of home games. But for shocking refereeing and a bit of bad luck, we'd have won both games.

Ally's had no backing from any one really. I'm sure Durranty and Kenny McDowall are great support, but Ally is the only figure head at the club (now that the sleek it one has gone AWOL). He's had to deal with it all the crap Whyte has brought on our club.

He probably realised months ago we were in the stook and has been soldiering on under immense pressure - handicapped by the sale of our best player and only real match winning player in Jelavic.

To do what he's doing in the circumstances is highly commendable and just shows his love of the club. I only hope that he sticks with it and he pulls us through this mess. If he can't do it, no-one can or possibly could.

Ally doesn't do walking away. Nor do Rangers' fans.

Stick with Ally and back the team. We will survive and will be stronger.

Aye ready

Gav

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Who do you think he was referring to?

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Look rangers needs the debt to disappear.
We need costs reduced by £1m a month.
We need this expensive under performing team released.
And we need ally and his staff removed.
Sorry. To be cold heated and logical but all the above is true and it's how we sort OUR problems. Whyte is cold and logical, he doesn't warm to any fans but he's right. No emotion it's business and we need to be ruthless with redundancies and can not afford to carry underachievers including Ally.

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Right considering ally gave us some of the best goals ever seen and he is died in the wool gers fan the least you scum could do is support him bad times but a gers man is what we need and thats what we have or would you rather another le guen?

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To the poster who talks about Whyte being "logical" and Ally being an "under achiever" .... What are you on ??

Whyte is a con man !! and who on earth do you think could do a better job than Ally ?? No one without an undying love from the club would take the manager's job right now.

You're not a Rangers' fan. You're a weasel !

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As a bear to call other gers fans scum is unforgivable behave yirself mate

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Craig whytes intention is to run the club on to the beach. Ally meanwhile is trying to build a team & being totally lied to! I would like to see anyone build a team whilst being opposed at every turn by the
owner!

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Ally would have got support from the legend that is John Greig, sadly he was chased out of the club by being sidestepped at every turn. Had he stayed he would have risked being tarred with the same brush as Craig Whyte even though he would have been totally innocent - yet another situation of Whyte's making

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03 Mar 2012 19:05:32
If we forget the off field finance problems for a minute,has ally been clever in making himself virtually un sackable? A look at the stats would suggest he might be out of his depth.Two euro exits to teams that were there for the taking,Falkirk out playing rangers with no tactical change from ally,Dundee Utd winning pretty easily at ibrox and poor displays in most league games since october.It seems to be the same shape every week,the same tacticts and the same substitutions.I still think during this administration period he has been good for the club as he has plenty purchase with the fans,but i also think he might have been playing a game that suits his own agenda.The "walking away" speech,while very emotive,really is just words that might get in the way of hard facts regarding performances.I think the jury is still out for me.

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On results on the park the record has been poor too nice of a guy and im not being nasty in anyway

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Thank god someone saying what I've been thinking for months. This sorry state of affairs would be easier to take if the team were performing. Ally would have been sacked by any other team way before administration.

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Ally has thrown away a 15 point advantage to Celtic. Outwith this ten point deduction we have had we would still be behind Celtic. I hate to say it but Neil Lennon has turned the Celtic team that we all thought where flops into a possible treble winning side. Not one rangers fan can deny that outwith the ten point deduction we would have still lost the league.

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Before all the carry on we were miles in front how on earth we lost all those points is behond belief very strange

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Give the man a break! Look nobody was saying anything when we were fifteen points ahead, and had beaten Celtic 4-2 at Ibrox. The problem started when Naisy got injured, then we lost Laff, and Whittake, then Jelavic. Davis has not been consistent all season,, and you have to wonder if the current problems were known to the players before we did.

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Started reading your post but only got to end of 1st sentence. With all that is happening Mr Alistair Mcoist is doing an exceptional job - end of story. I'm pissed off with this as much as the next Rangers man. But, somehow results don't really matter. The survival of our club does.

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At last the penny has dropped a very poor manager but a great player . Instead of blaming everybody else the buck stops with him . He is using admin to save his own skin .we don't do walking away has endeared him to the fans but are only masking his bad management

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Totally agree about the results on the park, but looking deeper at the big picture I am concerned about other issues. For instance we rely on European football to generate income, but always start preseason too late and update the squad too late to be match fit or sharp with a gelled team. This seems to impact scottish teams in general and is a poor state of affairs.

Coming to updating the squad. Murray park was supposed to produce young talent that would form the foundation of our team, but instead of blooding our youngsters we buy ortiz or capucho etc etc. Either all youth players are s**t or our managers/coaches were not invested enough in youth. The old arguement will come up that the old firm can't afford to lose and trust youngsters with the pressure, but teams like arsenal show youngsters can compete.

Bottom line is its time to rebuild the business and we may be forced to build from our youth. That's if murray park will even exist.

Too many failings have led to Rangers not being able to financially support a competitive team. Let's hope a fresh start gives us a chance to right many wrongs.

In the meantime we need to support the team through thick and thin

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Ally is the man , he has taken over The Rangers is the worst time of their history , give the guy a break

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Lets hope he hangs about for a long time!!

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Ally looks to be out of his debt and whilst acting with the clubs interests at heart, he is not management material. Rangers are either going to be playing division 3 football next season or will be heavily penalised in the SPL. Added to that they will have a very small budget for players. We need to start looking at the best up and coming managers in the lower divisions who can build and motivate a team using very little money.

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03 Mar 2012 19:03:41
For those that are ranting about Ally McCoist.
Give the guy a break. Do you think he has been given a fair chance? No he hasn't. This is the worst rangers team EVER, apart from a few players.
Loosing our top goal scorer and no money to sign decent replacements. Anyone that thinks we could find anyone more up for the job OR anyone that would want it should wake up and get behind him rather than ridicule him.
Get real folks he's not the bad guy here.

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Is part of the fact that it is such a poor team not the manager's fault?

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In ally we trust - if ur not behind the man 100% ur not a rangers suppoerter end of story

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So we cant give any opinion now on ally on the football side of it the guys not a manager maybe a good coach been brill off the park i agree but as paying fans we must also have opinions

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The team is pish poor.out of all comps and blew a 15 point lead before the Jelly man was punted,face it worse record than PLG and thats a fact

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Hope Sally stays forever he is complete dud you guys are letting your hart rule your head.

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This is NOT the worst rangers team
i repeat this is NOT the worst rangers team
but some of the worst results .there was a good enough team to beat maribor,malmo.falkirk, and every team at ibrox this season but there being mis-managed simple

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Bedoya McKay ortiz celik are part of the reason people on his back what money he had he has wasted and playin players out position doesn't help

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The "worst team ever" you obviously weren't following Rangers in the early eighties

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Not fair to judge ally on this season. We were a team in decline for years. Top scorers sold every window. Relying on a 40 odd year old defender for longer than necessary. Walter told whyte we needed 5 big first team signings Last Feb after psv away leg. We got Ortiz to replace diouf who was on loan. Bartley again? Healer again as he was dirt cheap. Lost weir and boogie got goian and.Boca. ( ok) mackay and bedoya prob all we could afford and prob not ally signings remember whyte, smith and Russell were trying to tap into markets outside of Europe. Coincidence? Leave ally alone. Give him a chance.

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Great guy never a manager luv him to bits

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Ally is a fine person but to get real hes not manager

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03 Mar 2012 18:31:56
a post futher dwn said tht this was our last game at ibrox even if liquidation comes we will always play at ibrox even if its in third division

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No you won't ibrox would be sold as it would no longer be owned by a club that does not exist. It would be owned by the administrators

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We will always play at at ibrox it belongs to rangers fc plc as for liquidation it looks closer we just cant substain these debts a loss of 1 milliom pounds a month this is without the two tax cases and debts outstanding we have to get real here its looking impossible with these current loses to continue the big axe will be next week when players get released and realilty will set in its be a total shambles and a disgrace the way the club has been run into the ground good luck to the players leaving its a very dire situation and should never have happened we should have been informed more i feel its been all cloak and dagger and a total disrespect for the rangers support the club has been made a laughing stock and being made to look bad this is not the rangers way absalute discracefull

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Do your research, Ibrox is owned by The Rangers F.C. Group Ltd a company which is owned and formed by Craig Whyte the OWNER of Rangers. Therefore if Rangers are liquidated then all of the clubs assets are sold off, including Ibrox.

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I am sure as preferred creditor Craig Whyte would get Ibrox and Murray park

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Nobody in their right mind is going to formulate an offer for RFC by March 16th.
None of the contentious debt, cash or asset issues will be resolved, no accounts, no top players and no Europe.

As a neutral, the shambles is beyond tragic for the fans.

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Third division matches would be better at smaller ground.

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03 Mar 2012 18:31:27
One Love Glasgow Rangers

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You using your new name already?

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Whos glasgow rangers ??

theres no team with that name


TB

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03 Mar 2012 18:15:58
Everyone one is going on about Ally,give him a break he has dealt with all this very well,putting football aside i would rather have him than anyone else at the moment. we will get Liquidated after listening to the statement today i just hope we can rise from the ashes,this is what Judas Whyte has planned all along.

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Ally is exactly who we need at the moment someone the fans can assosiate with.the season is gone forget it. Would not be surprised if ally has no intention of being there next season. He is talismen to steer us in these troubled times and think about it what other manager would come to ibrox just now.also if the results were the same but this mess we are in wasn't there ally would not need anyone to sack him, he would fall on his own sword that's how much a rangers man he is.

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Whyte has only been there 5 mins. Murray has been the maker of this mess, him and his fellow directors who have now been outed for blatant cheating. Ogilvie cannot survive and Hately was correcyt about tainted title, only thing was he had the wrong titles, it's the ones he won that are tainted.

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03 Mar 2012 18:13:50
Were is this liquidation coming from the admiinistrators have not said anything about it let's wait and see everybody is jumping on the band wagon . For get about the septic mob we will be back if we are not a will always hate them ... Kenny bluenose

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Aye hating celtic,that will really help! why not channel all your energy into saving your team coz it's disappearing down the pan fast

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Well your a numpty.nothing to do with celtic.go and hate murray or whyte........green jhedi

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Typical rankers fan hate the Celtic and that will make it better..... Ya plank

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A do hate Whyte and murry but a hate use more ... Kenny bluenose

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You are the kind of knuckle dragger that gives genuine rangers fans a bad name !

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Told use couple of times a hate everything septic stand for ... Kenny bluenose

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Its remarks like "Where is this liquidation thing coming from and hating Celtic" that actually make people hope your club does get done big time and ceases to trade.

Yet again we have a so called Rangers fan who has been sleeping for 6 months and can not understand that his club are in deep merde, and the hatred bit well hopefully when your club dissapears the hatred thing will as well.

Diamond Geezer

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I agree with kenny bluenose i hate celtic more than anything in the world
TRUEBLUE

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Kenny bluenose and Trueblue, complete halfwits. You're a disgrace and a stain on Scottish society!

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Why dont you correctly direct your hate on the people who got RFC into the position they are in!

Numpty

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Liquidation is inevitable if the BIG tax case goes against yooz. History over.

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Liquidation is inevitable in 2 weeks, and it is a real tragedy for Scottish football.

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The two idiots Kenneth and Blue beak - hope you have got a plan B for when your team gets liquidated as you will not be welcome anywhere else with that attitude.

Diamond Geezer

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Morning geezer would not go anywhere else am a gers fan would def not go to watch your mob that's for sure watp .. Kenny bluenose

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Good afternoon Ken

My mob - yyou would not even get near them, we as a club often held a closeness with Rangers FC due to many historical links and also a bit to do with our neighbouring residents, however no more - your ex chairman done us big time, now he has done his ex club and their supporters big time. The Rangers once was a majestic organisation, no longer - you are in the gutter and with fans having an attitude like yours its probably the best place. I am glad that you will only follow your own team because that's one less idiot for anyone else, wonder where you will be this time next year, no all seater stadium or marble staircase - Mr Whyte is building luxury flats in the main stand - I can recommend a good juvenile team for you - buckfast even allowed. Toodles from Diamond Geezer

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Buckfast not for me geezer a don't drink ... Thanks for the offer ... Kenny bluenose

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Think your lot has plenty idiots their as well geezer the green brigade are they not the ones that bring shame to your club, a think their is faults on both sides . A will support ma club to the end and a do think we will be in the spl next year up and down those marbil stairs you have a good day geezer catch up with you later

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How dare you - so this proves how thick Rangers fans are, the fact that my name is Diamond Geezer and I stated your club put us out of business sort of gives it away that I follow the mighty Airdrie United and we certainly don't have a green brigade. You aint got no idea how much you offended me.....and as for you being in the SPL - We will be in the SPL before your mob get back in.

Diamond Geezer

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Must say sorry geezer you are right it was murry that sank for a pokey 30 thousand just like he has left us in the s**t . A still would not support your team if we go bust ma football days will be over ma heart would not be in it hope your team do well ... Kenny bluenose

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Appreciate your kind words Kenny, banter is fine as long as it does not get out of hand and I wish you well buddy.

Diamond Geezer

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Evening geezer been thinking a still really hAte the manky mob .. Kenny bluenose

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Bon Soir Monsieur Kenny - thats how to say good evening in French Kenny us diamond fans need to brush up on foreign language skills now, but what are we going to do with you, on a Sunday as well, my auld uncle is an auld presbyterian meenister and if thought I was saying bad words on a Sunday he would disown me, have a good week Buddy.

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Am 45 now geezer not going to change me now will always love the union jack good luck on chasing your promotion m8 manky mob can enjoy for just now we will be back watp a strugle with English never mind french ... Kenny blue nose

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Morning geezer d - day is upon us what you think do you think the diamonds could loan us a few players

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03 Mar 2012 18:10:02
I for one would like to ask mr Murray Why?To you Mr Whyte Why? Would've you want to bring our Great Club Rangersfc to this embarrassment.

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They not interested in us rangers fans disgrace

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Its been a total shambles to discrace our great club thank you

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Nonsense...you guys bought it whole heartedly. How on earth for instance would a scottish club be able to afford Tore Andre Flo for 12Million and be financially viable...let alone all the other signings at that time..was there ANY questions asked??
Absolutely no sympathy for Rangers are the supporters..you reap what you sow.

Morally and financially bankrupt.

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For the knights money is God!

Pauper

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I think you are being a bit harsh on the fans of RFC, it is hardly their fault.
Nobody blamed the Celtic fans for the mess they were in.

Liquidation will cripple RFC for years, its another Leeds Utd.

Have a heart.

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Both should be knighted. Oh sorry one already is. HA HA HA.

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I agree with the poster above about T A Flo no cone asked any questions the because we were winning . Did anyone ever wonder how we could afford players like terry butcher the england captain at the time chris

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03 Mar 2012 17:40:23
Fed up with some of the supporters having a go at Ally Mccoist in his first year as manager - he is in an impossible position and is trying his best to hold our club together - Name another who has Rangers in their Hearts and who would be willing to step in and put up with what he has had to deal with this year.

Gers1986

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100% agree super Ally will rise above this and lead us back to the top

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Well said

mccoist a legend in an impossible position. he may not be mourinho, but you know what, if mourinho had to work under these circumstances and had letting players go to look forward to I don't think he'd be doing much better

I think McCoist has done a great job keeping everyone together. He's a fan, and increasingly he seems to be the fan that is the figurehead for the club in dark days.

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Totally agree. Never really thought he was the right man for the job but my admiration for the man has went through the roof during these difficult times. I would guess he thinks he will not be here long term but he has put his heart and soul into trying to give support to everyone connected to Rangers whether it is players,staff,supporters etc. A rangers legend indeed.

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Remember we were 15 points ahead in november and we blew it enough said

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Ally is a total legend, he deserves a lot of praise for how he has conducted himself during this crisis. With regards to managing a football team though it is not his strength, even before this we had gone out of Europe (twice), lost a 15 point lead in the league and tumbled out of two cup competitions. Statistics don't lie. If we somehow survive liquidation (which is likely to happen), we need new owners with their own manager and a whole different team (other than Shagger and Naisy and Ness).

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Sob sob sob...whet did lennon ave to deal with in his first season??far worse than any manager has had to deal with ever!!.face facts mcoists record is shocking

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True bad situation but that didnt happen till the past couple of weeks after a 15 point lead blown. imagine what lennon had to put up with and tell me who had it worse.

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He gets a year cause he was super Ally,but the stats dont lie, worst Rangers managers record for a long time

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He's showed nothing to suggest he can manage rangers.no ideas on how to change a game

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To the person who posted about neil lennon the subject is nothing to do with neil lennon or Celtic you have your own fans to discuss that with.

Gers1986

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Shocking record, any other season he would be sacked, worst record than le guen - fact.

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Think Ally McCoist is a legend as a player but failed as a manager, out of Europe, beating by 2 below average sides, out of league cup against FALKIRK, out of Scottish cup at home against Dundee Utd, BLEW a 15 point league.....Le Guen got slated for worse if we werent in this position he would be UNDER FIRE. watP

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Well said Gers1986 did you get lost mate ? Post your Lennon patter on your own page...

Bluebear

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Gers 1986....was it not ally who was going crazy at sidlines where walter held him back last year, and was it not him that said something to lennon to get a rsponse out of him. cause if you look back ally just wanted to get lennon in trouble and by doing so made his players act like thugs. ally is not a good manager look at stats, bye 15points/cups/europe FACT!

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Bluebear you cant be serious about having a go at what ger1986 has said because your were caught posting on the celtic site using 3 differant names

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I made the post that started with Totally agree. My point was not what has happened record wise but who is the best man to deal with the current situation. We are not going to get anyone to take the helm with the kind of record that we would wish. We need somene just to guide us through this mess. Almost like a liason between players and administrators and fans etc. Not one person has come up with a name to do that ex wattie

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If walter could come back this would be great by g-d do we just need him just now

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You cant rate McCoist under these circumstances! He had no money to start with. Administrationuncertainty hangin over everybody for a long long time. How can ANYBODY perform 100% under these conditions? Given normal circumstances, the Gers would have ran away with this league and all the doubters would be blowing sunshine up Ally s @rse. We are and always will be the peepel.

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As a man ally is a great guy on the football terms people are saying he not up to the managerial side fair enough but off the field the guy has been great

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The guys been immence of the park respect

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To the poster with no name think your getting me mixed up mate. One season doesn't make a manager Lennon will be found out nae competition...Ally will always be a legend but I'm not convinced he is a manager. I would be reluctant to give him a decent amount to spend. But at the moment I don't care if he is the right man to take us forward I'm just glad that he is taking us through this mess a true legend who has the club at heart. So again let's keep up the positive vibes its still about admin not liquidation.

The real Bluebear.

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When things are going bad on the park he just cant seem to be able to change a game hes a gem of a guy but as manager i dont think he got it

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Our players are still getting paid ,we got beat by a team for months didn't know if they were getting wages so let's not start poor Ally thing, in any other circumcise Ally would have been out the door, but blind logic brings as to where we are today , Ally will be a rich man regardless of what happens, will the fringe players, will the tea lady i think not ,so yes feel sorry but lest not forget we were out of 2 euro cups b4 we were in them ,getting beaten by teams on a tenth of our budget and that's been kind, na sorry guys Ally for me can't cut it, saying that this was gonna happen anyway so let's move on

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John Greig done it, Rangers fans have a short memory span and seemingly forget a players' legendary status as soon as they step into management. Smith told McCoist not to take the job and furthermore Mr McCoist BLEW a 13 point lead over the manky mob.

Who is to blame? All directors involved in the running of Rangers Football Club, Mr Murray being the main contributor to our clubs downfall. Mr Whyte took the bullet and has made a few bob legally, our club will be liquidated and thrown into the derisory state of the 3rd division for a few years unless investment is thrown in within the next 2 weeks. The Glasgow Rangers as we know it has its future balancing on the hinges of an agreement waiting to be made before 16th of March. Here's hoping it occurs, but i cannot see it.

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03 Mar 2012 17:28:42
I hope whoever takes over has the balls to inform Ally that there bringing in their own managerial team.

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Totally agree mate. the management team should be shown the door, youth development at murray park and useless scouting network at rangers must be looked at if we are lucky enough to get out of this whole mess.

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Couldn't agree more

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Get a grip mate. Ally is a Rangers man to
The core. You coments show a total lack
Of understanding of the situation. If you think the result today was the problem.
Mccoist is working night and day to help
The club he loves. Do you think we would
Be in this position if he was a rangers manager under a cash rich club
I for one offer my unconditional support
For Ally and as a Rangers fan you need to
Do the same. Do you want Mr CW to sack
Ally and put his choice of manager in place ?
Bro J

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Have the balls? If they dont have the balls to to make that decision whether you think its right or wrong then do you really think they are fit to be in charge of Rangers?

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To be honest we need someone like walter in charge no nonsence

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Look walter smith has been and gone, he was one in a million. If your not a supporter of ally mccoist then ur not a rangers supporter end of story. alex ferguson couldn't win with the teams we have been putting out.
get a grip get behind ally or us true rangers fans will dismiss your support to the club and view u as a tim lol

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Who bought most of them and picks them. Your faith is comendable ,but ally aint up to the job

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03 Mar 2012 17:05:08
In Ibrox after game and just heard that's the last game here :(

Unless players accept pay deal then liquidation will be announced. Expect liquidation Monday bears!

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If a miracle occurs and we avoid liquidation we will need to invest tens of millions into the team cause this current lot are not rangers class.

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Where will the tens of millions come from? No chance.

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I said if a miracle occurs. there is a total clearout required if we do find a buyer starting with the management team who are clueless.

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We are running costs at one million pounds a month plus the 9 million tax the club owes the other money owed to spl clubs the big tax case transfer monies we owe the list goes on as a fan we have not been informed we are just numbers at the end of the day thank you old board shocking

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The tea lady should really keep quiet.

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I think Rangers should cut their losses on the current set of players and go with youth and beg for Walter to come back in. Your not going to win the league or get into Europe it seems, so may as well get the next crop of youth players up to speed with the SPL, you might think I am being ridiculous here, but if you play youth players all you need to worry about is getting relegated and that's not going to happen. They get used to SPL, if they are amazing you sell then on and make a profit, and bring in a replacement.

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Going on todays game half the players arnt worth what they are getting payed

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As a rangers fan of 40 years liquidation is looking a step closer not looking good we just owe to much the damage has been done thank you the men upstairs

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You mad, bringing back mr anti-football walter smith. that would end rangers fc

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Liquidation is the only solution. Nuke us now, get rid of all this debt and then we can come back as FC Rangers of Glasgow and start again afresh with a whole new strategy. As a diehard fan I have no interest struggling on over the next ten seasons trying to pay off all these historical debts.

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Total crap who told you it was the last game one of your mates ? Or did they formally announce it over the tannoy ? Get a grip and get behind the team...and stop the pish gossip.

Bluebear

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Im not looking forward to next week sad times

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Shut up timmy, get off our page and stop posting!! the adimistrators have already said there is a deadline on 16th of march for new bidders for the club!! now stop talking cr*p

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You are all missing the point, the club as we know it is dead. The Admin guys are not working for nothing, when the final tallying takes place the first in line to get paid are the Admin guys, the CW, then his companies. If the Gers are liquidated the all the deferred payments are usless and the then the club and all the items of value will be sold. You don't believe? then take a walk out to Cathin Park where Third Lanark were based and remember the words of of the poem Ozymandias

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Doesnt matter whats happening now, it will be the EBT tax case and thedouble contracts and dodgy payments that will kill the club!

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If a miracle occurs and we avoid liquidation we will need to invest tens of millions into the team cause this current lot are not rangers class.

Please try and be realistic, spending millions on players is what got RFC into this mess, I suggest its not worth repeating, regardless of the outcome.

The operating loss of a million per month is largely down to high wages, 10k per week will be the new max for years to come.

Leed Utd fans went from watching Champions League football to Division 1 football, and they were not liquidated I believe.

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03 Mar 2012 17:04:35
as soon as we are out this mess super ally is not the guy to take rangers forward he has no clue whatsoever tho ref didnt help today
and last but not least see the next gers fan that comes out with the "we dont do walking away"
pi#h look at how many was there at 90 ins fecking disgrace


TB

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All credit to ally mcoist i agree ally is trying his best but some of his tactics are not up to scratch

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Totally agree with you, ally is a stand up bloke but a manager of motivation during a hard time he is not, sad to say that but it's time to get real.

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Ally has conducted himself impeccibly throughout this mess but ur right he's not the answer for us going forward. financial problems aside this is the poorest rangers team i have ever seen. it is truely shocking! we'll be lucky to finish 3rd.

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Just to get my point a cross more i love super ally i grew up as he was the best ever striker i have seen at ibrox when i played as a kid i always had to be super ally just dont think he is up to it as a manager


TB

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To be honest there was a strange atmosphere at the match today i just think the players would be up for a game today after all we done our bit today to attend very poor pirformance today allys a top bloke but not rangers manager matierial sad to say

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Super ally as a player but not as a manager nice guy tho

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Would love to see stats for Ally since October. Dropping far too many points and consecutive defeats at Ibrox. Poorest manager since PLG

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Ally is to nice guy as a manager you have to be tough

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Check the stats he is worse than PLG

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He has a worse record than paul le guen an that was be4 the killie and hearts game the players are a disgrace 2 even if they leave on mon they shd be playing there hearts out so another club takes them u dont know whos watching at the fitba


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Hes no walter smith

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"We don't do walking away" except in the last ten minutes of every game particularly when we are losing - disgraceful!

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03 Mar 2012 16:57:03
Sack Ally now! Lets not blame the 3 points going to Hearts on the ref. We were not good enough to beat them.

GB

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See if you are going to come out with such a comment do you not think you should be offering alteratives that will give positive results. My guess is you cant. Frankly i think you are off your trolley. Oh and the solution to that might be to see a shrink.

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Really? McCoist has got more guts & balls than you'll ever have. He could walk away tmrw as he is a millionaire. But he loves the Club more than that. He loves the Club more than people on here with a half a brain. Or more than people who still walk out of Ibrox from 80th min onwards. Is getting the subway or a pint more important right now than standing together and showing support to a Rangers team and a Rangers legend

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So Ally doesn't do walking away. Well he doesn't do winning football matches either which is what he's paid to do!

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Getting paid? Again offer a solution. Easy to have a go. Its nothing to do with losing games or being 15 points ahead etc. Its all about the current unique situation. Who else woud do his job at this moment and time?

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It was the refs fault. Duff and Phelps never payed them

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How easy do you think it is to put a mentally sound winning team on the park with all that McCoist has to deal with. Don't bring the guy down. He is a legend and had a big part in winning the last 3 titles, numerous cups and a UEFA Cup Final. Give him a break.

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Get a grip. Players on the cusp of being sacked. They hardly rolled over and died. The league is over. Let's channel our support into something positive not these silly comments. We have a football club to save not a title to win.

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Some of the support want the team trying jury is out on ally which is allowed not running the guy down he picks the team so it falls back on him at the end of the day

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Goodwillie,Conway,dann,hamed were only a few of the players Mcoist and his scouting team of brown and Murray identified. We got Ortiz Mackey bedoya because that's all we could afford. Mcoist may have made a few mistakes but do you really believe if we had added a bit of quality last summer our season would have collapsed when naysmith got injured and Davis and Whittaker didn't hit the form of previous seasons.

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03 Mar 2012 16:53:13
Disgusted by the bears fans, once again leaving early! sh!t happens if we are beaten! get behind the team no matter what, unforunately i‘m working just now otherwise i would be there till half 4 lol( LOYAL BEAR)

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Don't blame them. i wouldn't have turned up full stop. the team is a total shambles regardless of off field problems. i have said for 2 years that we have 1 descent player- naismith, the rest is abysmal!

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We dont do walkin away haha

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But we dont do walking away apparently
never left a game early in my life an never will game is for 90mins not 80


TB

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I am so sick of this crap of u left early...so what some of us have more going on in life than just rangers. I am a season ticket holder have been for 10 years plus and today I felt sorry for the folk that bought a ticket when they really shouldnt have financially and we get that performence canny blame the ref today the team just didnt look intrested so I dont blame anybody for leaving few mins early

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If you were there until 4.30, wouldn't that make it 75 mins gone? So you'd have left early? Great!

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Loyal bear....'i was at my work' for all you know the fans that left might have been leaving for their work. Considering you don't even know when the game finishes would suggest your not a loyal bear at all.

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03 Mar 2012 16:22:35
Hi fellow bears, don't know if I'm missing something here in respect of our clubs current situation and terms of being able to contribute funds direct to the club while under administration. If my memory serves me correctly, Dundee and Motherwell fans were able to hold fund raising events while in administration with the proceeds going to the club. I'm aware that the money we are talking about to save Rangers is significantly more, but our fanbase is significantly more. HMRC will deal if we lose the Big Tax Case as its in the Tax Payers Interest as will the other creditors. It makes me think the vultures are waiting on Liquidation and then form a Newco without our history claiming that it's all irrelevant. Why are we having to pledge money when we can put it direct to the club and no matter what save it, it's history and our dignity. We are being conned, not only by Whyte, Murray, but all the media outlets. Ed, can you shed light on why we cannot contribute direct, it cant be going into a black hole, or we would have been liquidated by now.

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HMRC will NOT deal with the big tax bill. If they were to deal then they would have done so by now instead of setting up a First Tier Tax Tribunal.

Some people are just plain ignorant and stupid.

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To the reply, yes they will deal with the tax case should they win! They can't deal with it because they haven't proven yet we abused the system. Should rangers loose the case, the tax man is hardly going to say ok give us the money or go bust because then HMRC won't get a penny and they'll of wasted more of the tax payers money (as if they don't waste enough already).
Ps this wasn't my post just adding in a comment

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Hmrc will deal over 10 years its been in all the papers ?
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You are entirely wrong in your belief that the taxman will deal. The tax authority has categorically stated that they WON'T deal. A first tier tax tribunal is only set up to deal with appeals. Rangers were served with a bill and appealed it. The tribunal is to ascertain how much Rangers are liable for.
So just to be clear, the tax case is NOT to determine IF Rangers are liable but rather to come to a total liability.
This case will set the ball rolling to go after bigger clubs (in the EPL for example) so to be seen to do a deal at this stage would be an embarrassment and a total climb down.
When the big tax bill is served, Rangers WILL be liquidated.
And if you think there will be a buy out and a takeover then dream on. The total debt at this stage is reckoned to be in excess of £100 million.

Mate, I don't care if you were the original poster or not, the fact remains that you are wrong.

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@qwolf

You choose to believe that HMRC will do a deal with Rangers because "it's been in all the papers". (Which incidentally is CRAP).

However you choose not to believe Rangers will be liquidated and that is also in all of the papers.

You just choose to ignore the bad news and believe the positive news which is sad because it shows just how desparate the supporters are now.

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I would like to reply to the poster slagging the guy his posts wrong .you are wrong my friend.the case in front of the judge repeat judge is if the EBTs were used in an illegal way.Until the outcome off the Judgement No one knows .If and i expect you are a Celtic fan then I am not sorry to burst your bubble wishful thinking on your behalf again.So don't come on here and expect not don't to be pulled up.

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To the guy above..
are you saying a bill for the small tax bill has not been served ? served and disputed,even tho terms of sale were to pay it.
are you saying a bill for the big tax case hase not been served ? served and disputed.

also, a bill has been served for paye and nic, still not paid.

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You must be mental if you believe that ya f"""""" idiot. HMRC don't deal, if they did then every tax dodging theiving B would use it against them to negotiate a good deal. The only time they accept less than 100% is when they are outside the main creditor group and in that case they are legally bound to accept any deal struck by the main creditors. Think before blabbing pish, pay your taxes and hand back all your tainted titles and trophies.

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03 Mar 2012 16:24:55
The Admin said that that have had
sevral parties intrested and have
until the 16th of March to put there offer in

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Wrong, they have until the 16th March to register their interest, not make an offer!!

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Hopefully new owners will change the bank account from Lloyds to RBS

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03 Mar 2012 15:10:13
everyone on the radio panel saying rangers will be liquidated surely has to trigger a rangers fans to put up some money to keep their club alive. this is the only solution but nothing is happening.

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Bunch of lazy journalist's and washed up ex professionals...what makes you think they know what the Admin are doing..their role is to keep the story active and what sells....made up crap like liquidation...not stories of us coming out of this mess....

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Liquidation WILL happen. It is not made up, it is not scaremongering, it is not a Celtic conspiracy, it is not a media conspiracy, nor is it the media or Celtic's fault.
It is your previous board that caused this and rest assured that you will be liquidated.

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Not often i agree with a celtic fan but he's right. the statement about lazy journalists is simply a case of burying your head in the sand. i'm a diehard rangers fan who is almost certain that we have no alternative but to be liquidated. Our fans have the opportunity to put their money where their mouths are and keep the club alive. but nothing is being done. so please stop with all this nonsense about the media. if it wasn't for the media pressing on mr whyte's background/takeover then he would still be at ibrox conducting dodgy goings on.

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Yes it will be Liquidation and it was his plan from day one. no buisness man will touch this club as its non profitable buisness and will cost close on £100m to fix. i very much doubt us even being afloat by 16th march.duff n phelps are going to walk away with at least £1m quid for the work they have done and with not one ounce of sympathy to anyone left behind .Mr Whyte got them appointed for his own good not the club the fans or anyone else ITS Liquidation and it could be by end of next week.

WG

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Agree with everything said in above post. its not a case of IF but WHEN we fold which is very sad. our great club has been destoyed by murray and whyte who will have to hide away for the rest of their days.

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What i dont get is why the 75% pay deduction onfirst team players, who are offering to do it, cant be accepted. I know it wont add up to a million a month but its a good start. I just cant help but feel they are trying to push us into liquidation. Are they not supposed to be here to help?

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The players didn't offer to take a 75% deduction, it was the admins that wanted it. The players want their wages deferred until the end of the season which the admins have rejected.

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Seems to me that the majority of pundits including Mr Delahunt would love to see us fold. Whenever any supporters suggested on Radio Snide about contributing direct he fobbed the callers off. Keep the faith, but we need a figure head to got to the administrators and set this up.

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Websites like this offer fans the chance to speak out. its about time we came up with some ideas to get money into our club before its too late!

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What goes around comes around so i say have some jelly and ice cream. your great chairman mr whyte knight is in sunny monaco doing that as we speak

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I never thought i would see this but we are in a very very bad way

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You're 2 years too late why not do this when money problems started instead of now and some of u still think its alright rangers will come through this

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Fellow bears we have to wake up these debts arnt going to disappear we are losing 260 thousand pound per week as it stands not including the tax cases debts running costs bleak future

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03 Mar 2012 14:54:18
Can anyone outside of the UK ROI get on the RangersTV.tv wepage right now to watch the game? I have paid my money and cant get on... Is this another one of Whytes tricks?

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Probably is another one of his tricks mate it wont surprise me he has stole everything else from us!

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The game was on Rangers tv, sorry only saw your posting now, but want to respond to remove anothet wrong rumour. Rangers were good today, the players deserve credit for the way they responded. Shame some fans left early..

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Shame some fans left early. i think its a biggers shame that some fans were watching on rangers tv rather than being at the game

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Why is that a shame? Some people don't live in Scotland and therefore have to watch the game on tv, oh dear god hang them! Bring back the death penalty! Swines! Pfffft crawl back into your cave cone head

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03 Mar 2012 14:19:46
Why are we fighting so hard to keep players we should be getting rid of?

We're not going to play in Europe and we're out of the cups so the season is a wash!

Why not cut our losses, get rid of the dead wood and start fresh with guys who want to play for us next season!

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Because we are in administration we cant sign ant players thats the rules where have you been?

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03 Mar 2012 13:57:48
anybody know when the umbro& jjb deal runs out ..need to get the club shops back in house

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Wont run out until 2016,

was a ten year deal signed in 2006.

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Umbro is up this season

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JJB was a bad idea! Good for short term but the loss in constant revenue is what's loosing us profit.

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03 Mar 2012 13:19:56
SaveRangers.com was delighted to receive a £1m pledge from Alan MacKenzie in Western Australia. Alan, who runs his own manufacturing company Down Under, contacted the site admin with his pledge and the picture below of his grandkids “handing over” their pledge to the campaign from Perth, WA.

Alan stated,

“Why am I doing this? the players and fans don’t deserve to be in this position. I’m doing it for the proud history and the legends no longer with us. For my Dad, my son who is true blue and the kids of today’s supporters. To ensure future generations, like my Grandkids, come to know the history of their family background and why we wear this strip with pride and honour, the blue jersey of Rangers, especially down under or when travelling!”

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Ed, pledged some money myself is anything going to come of this site think it was six million at the last count

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It stands at aroud 10million with 14,000 signed up. If this guy alan from australia has pledged 1m, surely that would go towards the 1m per month required to keep us afloat.

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Sadly there's a big difference between a pledge and a bank transfer

I'm not convinced we should be putting any money in til we understand the debt, and it is 100% clear Craig "never to set foot in ibrox again" won't be seeing any of it.

Whether we come out of admin or if it's newco the new owners will need fan support and our money then.

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The debt is gonna be vast regardless of the outcome. 40m-60m-80m its obvious the only people who can get us out of this mess are the fans. unfortunately nothing appears to be happening.

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03 Mar 2012 13:01:13
News on Radio Clyde saying that administrators are expected to make a statement around 1:30 before the match today. Wonder what more bad news they are going to announce seems its a daily occurrence now!

Gers1986

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03 Mar 2012 10:24:40
Massive cull to take place on Monday with training staff and players.

This paves the way for Tuesday when the administrators are to announce that the club is to go into liquidation.

I spoke of this weeks ago about the stadium being sold and leased back to the club on the long term (Few American consortiums interested in the Ibrox development, not the football club that has been consistently touted around). However it looks as if it will be a new club.

Also heard the SFA are interested in purchasing Murray Park with a view to developing grass roots, using for the International team and leasing back to the new club.

More exclusive news to follow.

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Utter rubbish.The SFA would alienate all non rangers fans if they did this. if the stadium was purchased on a lease back the rent would be huge and the admin team cant take on debt,so you would have to be liquidated

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You talk utter garbage by the way, looks like you have just got out of bed and typed out your dream you just had .

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Utter nonsense.

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This story has no basis.

It is well reported that the salary cuts / staff cuts will be confirmed early next week. The administrators priority is to ensure the club can trade until the end of the season and pay it's bills. As in the media today a shortfall of £4.5M has to be addressed to ensure the club can trade.

Once the administrators have done this which means the club can fulfil all it's fixtures and pay it's bills POST administration it needs to confirm the club accounts in terms of who is owed money.

As Lloyds bank debt has been paid off. Reported creditors are HRMC (Small tax bill), 4 Scottish Clubs - Hearts, Dundee Utd, Dunfermline and ICT. Let's be positive here and assumed Craig (I am full of **yte) isn't a secured creditor.

Moving forward - next season the Club has a problem as Craig (I am full of **yte) has sold off a good chunk of future revenue (Ticketus) money. Also with the parlous state the club is in European Football looks unlikely. Hence income is going to be drastically down.

However here's the good news. If Craig (I deny one thing one day and say the opposite the next) is found of wrongdoing - i.e. using the clubs future tickets to buy the club then he may settle by walking away and gifting his shareholding back.

In affect if Craig (£50k is an irrelevance) doesn't have the £9 million he is now being chased for then hopefully he has to walk away allowing HRMC's debts to be cleared by letting them having Ibrox and Murray Park and leasing it back to clear all tax bills including money owed to SPL clubs

The shares can then be sold to a consortia who will invest money to make up for the Ticketus loss of revenue and Craig Whyte will leave with his £1 and the interest he made while the clubs money sat in his bank accounts.

That's my hope - all is not lost yet but it's really important for the players to accept that 75% cut otherwise I fear the club will be liquidated.

(A neutral who thinks Craig is full of **yte)

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Aye rıght, ı belıeve you as much as ı belıeve craıg whyte

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Nonsense post. are we not needing 4.5 mill to get us through to end of season? well, we have now received 3.6 mill and hope this is given to us next week when we ask high court to release it. surely this means we have a shortfall of 900k so why are administrators wanting to save a million a month? this seems very excessive......what happened to 5 mill odds that was raised by saverangers.com? cant this money be gifted, seeing us through to end of season meaning no redundancies watp

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More Bullsh!t to follow later. This is a rumour web site, not a site, where you sit buzzin gas and post the first p!ss that comes into your head!

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Rangers have NOT received 3.6 million from Whyte's solicitors account. They are in court to try to have said funds released to Rangers. A judge will decide whether Rangers or Collier Bristow will get the money back.
There will be drastic cuts to the squad with or without 3.6million as it may take months of legal wrangling to get that money back.

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Your post contradicts itself on so many levels its embarassing, there is no point in making redundancies on Monday and liquidating on Tuesday, everyone gets made redundant on Tuesday if they are liquidated.

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I believe this rubbish as much as I believe the garbage being spouted in the press. When are fans going to realise that the administrators are trying to gauge the reaction of the fans before doing anything. We all need to stop talking as if we are expects in commercial law and start demanding the people who got us in this bloody mess get their cheque books out. SDM is a very rich man WHY is he getting away with this? my belief is WHYTE is working for SDM all along.

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I think you will discover the deficit is £4.5m even with the £3.6m

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Players will be axed next week but the talk of liquidation is still a possibilty in the future as the debts are unmanagable

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03 Mar 2012 09:01:13
Morning ed in the rags today administrators want Whyte out best bit of news we have had in weeks that's by his own people great stuff ... Kenny bluenose

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With whyte being the main creditor and moving everything lock stock n barrel to his RFC company I fear the worst ... He's gonna own our fantastic stadium and training complex and sell us off once we get liquidated and lease them back to the next owners for a pretty little profit per year !! Whyte out should be the war cry today bears !! Four men had a dream

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Great stuff...nah.why do you think whyte jumped into admin? to make sure he got his own pals to oversee the admin instead of HMRC placing theirs,strangely that would have suited the fans better

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I tried posting this on the main page, but I think all Rangers fans should write and show full support behind an open letter to Craig Whyte via the national press stating that "Under NO circumstances will we accept Craig Whyte running the club into liquidation nor will we support any future phoenix Club created from the aftermath of Liquidation". This way we show that Rangers are worth nothing without our support and unless someone retains the current club with its history then there will be no Rangers or team being supported from Ibrox that sees Craig Whyte pocket money. FC United of Manchester is the template we should follow if the worst comes to the worst, We as supporters should create our own team with our own board with our own stadium. This has to be the way forward if liquidation happens. Neilyboy

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Contrary to what has been said the administrators are not working for the wee liar they are working for HMRC so expect no favours in liars direction

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Am I alone in thinking CW has not been proven to be the villain of the piece...yet ?

Was administration not inevitable ?

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Hope yeez get Murray back!!

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Whyte and his cronies should be struck off,and left to rot.. where is batman and robin,kerpow,zam..

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03 Mar 2012 02:26:32
saw a photo in the Metro paper of document shredding van outside Ibrox hope important documents are not being destroyed

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Hmmm !! very good !

big news is.....heehaw..

what we all know whytes a chancer, next manouvre is at the mercy of admin. we all know in honesty it was coming regardless of pride which we all have of the tic it has been coming since the donkey flo, all we need is someone to take up the mantle to pick us up and carry us on. could not give a monkeys of what the tic are up to as we all know we will rise above. 4m shortfall not much with the support we have we all know it. big advertising right now for nae dosh but we all know were back shortly !! what i do find strange is whyte has not appeared at all, what was in it for him ??

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It's shredding the EBTs!

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Whats in it for him? take your pick.

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