16 Feb 2016 12:40:43
Atlantic League?

Top 3 is 18 team league.

Top 4 teams could mean a premiership and championship of 12 teams each which would mean promotion and relegation.

Scotland
Holland
Portugal
Norway
Denmark
Greece

We still keep our teams in our home country also to help keep that competitive and that can be like our reserve/ u21 teams?

However we cannot win the league for obv reason so if any team in the Atlantic league won it would could to the first place team outside that league? And we can only have our team in the championship league in the home country.

Might mean no CL but I would imagine that if it would become successful which I am sure it would, teams would get bigger in the Atlantic league and we could attracted better players pay more wages and could start to have a better chance of competing against the BIG GUN in the CL.

After time I am sure it would be inevitable that CL teams and Atlantic League teams would got into a New European Competition.

I know it seems hard to bring together but as a Rangers Fan I would happily go for this, we don't have European Football now so why not. And we would have a full season of it in Atlantic League.

Also we could play it as Summer football league with long winter Shutdown, play when the other European Teams are in Pre Season and that would generate massive coverage whilst there Season is on Shut Down, also long winter break would be very attractive proposition for players mangers etc.

Thoughts and no Snide Comments, its all about progression and opinions.


1.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 13:09:15
I think the atlantic league is a great idea . football is moving so fast we need to keep up or we will be left behind . the big clubs will eventually move on so why not try and create something for the other teams ie rangers, celtic, benfica, ajax ect it would be a great league with some great teams and no doubt attract huge tv and sponsorship better than what we get now . too many teams in scotland offer nothing to our game they just take, take and i think its time to move with the times.


2.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 13:50:31
I have said for years now that TV will eventually dictate the football that goes on. For example, I bet when the big executives are looking at their viewing figures for Monday or Friday nights between Bournemouth v Southampton or Aberdeen v St Johnstone, they wish there were leagues containing teams with a certain pedigree. This could happen should they get their way with Friday night football showing Rangers v Ajax or Benfica v Celtic etc etc. Viewing figures would be up and therefore sponsorships would increase as a result. More money for the TV companies which means more money for the member clubs. Might never get off the ground but you look at the EPL for example, it's the TV companies that tell the teams when they're playing so I reckon if the want this model they will have it.


3.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 13:52:10
I can see the merits of an Atlantic league, although to me it seems like a second rate version of what the elite clubs are trying to do with champions league.

We can't on one hand condemn the elite clubs for wanting to make their own European league which fits their needs, then come up with our own version that suits our needs.

I would question if the general football watching public would be that interested in the Atlantic league idea and suggest it would be a bit like europa cup- interesting if your team is involved, less so if they are not.

Is the idea even financially viable? What kind of sponsorship would it attract, what kind of tv deal? Would the stadiums be full or half empty? What level of prestige? Is this in conjunction with the elite league offering promotion/ relegation or are they both stand alone? What of the teams from participating countries that don't make it- do they get a cut, do they get chance to qualify? So many questions.

For me the plan of the elite league must be stopped - the game should be run in the interests of the game not in the interests of the elite. We should be fighting this plan with every thing we have - including threatening expulsion of the clubs if they push ahead. I would suggest that any players that take part in the league should be banned from international football and the clubs should be expelled from their national leagues. It may sound extreme but it is realistic if UEFA, national associations and all other clubs stand firm. The threat of this should be enough.

However if we allow the elite clubs to rewrite the rule book then we and many other countries will be consigned to being second class at best. I don't think unless they are forced to that these clubs will think about the good of the game in general.


4.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 14:23:06
Well though out and lucid luigi.
I agree that some will get left behind as a result but know what, if and when it does happen (which I think it will because of money) then I don't want to be one of the teams left behind. We have the pedigree and fan Base that this type of model will be looking for so if this is the future deal me in.


5.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 14:29:49
Luigi it will get to the stage where the elite clubs won't care what UEFA say they will just break away and form there own governing body without the elite clubs UEFA are nothing the clubs have the power here TV and sponsorship will dictate not UEFA.


6.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 14:44:50
I'm in agreement and feel that an Atlantic League can only be a good thing if organised and ran correctly - Is it 1 league or 2 leagues? Who goes into what league? Are games straightforward home and away? Who gets, the tv rights? What channel would they be on if the mighty rich teams are on sky or BT on a Tues/ Wed night?
Devil's advocate questions now -
Will our game benefit in Scotland?
What happens, to "other" Scottish teams - say the likes of Dundee Ross County Inverness etc? Would they be invited to such a league? What are they left to play for? Should that scenario concern us, as, Rangers fans?
Is domestic football finished as such?
As m3lvo and p&b says it sounds, a good idea - please reply in the positive - I'm sure we're all keen to hear views on this league-.


7.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 14:55:50
Why should we care about other scottish teams? Besides rangers, celtic, aberdeen, hearts who else has a fan base and ambition all the other clubs offer nothing to scottish football all they do is take they rely on the big 2 or 3 taking away fans to make money, teams like dundee, st johnstone ect with 2000 crowds.


8.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 15:11:33
There is one giant flaw in all televised football and that is the internet.
For example you can now watch any game anywhere in the world live and not pay a penny subscription.
this will eventually impact on the Sky and BT of this world.
When the revenues drop and more and more people watch free why would TV Companies pay out the huge sums as they do now.
It is a ticking bomb and unless the broadcasters can find a way of completely stopping internet traffic the business model will eventually fail.
With it the sand on which the EPL and CL are founded will evaporate.


9.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 15:17:04
I have missed 1 away game in the last 7 years, no way I could afford this and I have a great job. WAit anyone want to buy 3 kids lol.


10.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 15:24:06
Scottish football never cared about us so f@@k them. let's go for atlantic league. f@@k uefa aswell. form a governing body for the league an go it alone.


11.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 15:25:51
I didn't want to say as much but big t has hit the Boaby right on the tess tickle there. I won't really care, I'll be watching my team compete with some of the best Europe has to offer. I ultimately think this would suit the 'rest' as I believe they would be happier competing with each other on a part time basis rather than trying to finance full time footy. There would be a much more level playing field in such a scenario with other teams winning their national leagues as a result. This could spark a playoff scenario between the respective winners of said leagues to gain a spot in the Atlantic league in place of the bottom two for example.
Anyway there will be lots of opinions on this but I for one would think it has the potential to be à great idea.


12.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 16:06:17
what would happen to the eastern European team
would this be by invitation or would we need to have to qualify
ten on the political side if the uk opts out the EU
where would our teams stand.


13.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 16:57:21
Are take that reforming fir this new league 😢, afcw?


14.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 17:08:45
I agree with scotty 52. In the next cupla years most people will get ther footy via the live streams. This may even end up the epl's last big pay day before the bubble bursts.


15.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 17:13:34
I said years ago we should form another league with teams from Holland, Portugal, Poland, Austria and invite teams from China and the Middle East. I was however shot down in flames with on post saying where's my flame thrower. Well look what's happening now in China. I can't help thinking we've missed out on something very lucrative. As for the rest of Scottish football they keep saying they don't need us so they'll get their wish.


16.) 16 Feb 2016
16 Feb 2016 17:45:27
^^^maybe that would be the bast thing to happen, bring more clubs on par as far as income is concerned.