Rangers Banter Archive April 12 2014

12 Apr 2014 21:37:03
Just thought about a song for ally which I think is appropriate given the recent events:

Don't believe a word! By thin lizzy

Or

Everything is broken by bob Dylan


RR

What about the song hey big spender for the wages that he hands out

Just found a good one that applies to the clowns in the boardroom the management and players and its by someone called meja its called ALL ABOUT THE MONEY this title say it all

Heard the board like to listen to Easy Money (frankie miller).

OP I thought you were going to name it before me but also by Bob Dylan - "it's all over now baby blue"

TheFonz was on sparkling form yesterday including throwing a great dummy that we all swallowed but the one that nailed it for me was when he accused a Super Ally fan of partial responsibility.
Some of them start by claiming they are not 100% behind Ally- but they want to give him time at least until we get back into the top league. They trot out the excuse about no scouts blah blah blah when between the three of them they could share scouting duties with the money they get paid.

They have justified McCoist's managerial performance by stating 34 games 32 victories 2 draws no defeats- performance not important.

Oh but yesterday when the result was Rangers 1 Dundee United 3 it was the performance that was important one young fan even thought this was "not fair"


I will tell you what is not fair- we are beyond skint we have no money and all the Super Kareoke One can think about is more players in to strengthen his team. No thought about tactics no thought about playing players in their correct positions no thought about the clubs future existence. His existence yes that is all he think about.

We needed a young intelligent manager who could develop the youth at Auchenhowie. We went burst before by trying to buy success we have learned nothing and we are about to go bust again with the Super One in charge of the football department.

This man was probably our best ever goal scorer but is definitely our worst ever manager
Moneywise we cannot afford him and football wise we cannot afford him.

He in a way is lucky that the governance of the club has been so piss-poor including Green's ludicrous £935k payment to himself. Correctly a lot of the attention has been on the incompetents on the board and that will come to a conclusion one way or other this season ticket haul or not but if the Super One is still in charge we will not be safe whoever is his new boss- IMO

Pink floyd money

Another song title. Fools gold. The stone roses.

13 Apr 2014 16:58:15
Had to laugh last week when Gordon Dalziel claimed after the Ramsden's Cup defeat that Raith Rover's championship position was deceptive and they were not a 'seventh in the championship team'.

Looks like he was at least partially right.

After being humped 3-1 at home to Dumbarton yesterday they've moved down to eighth place.

Maybe it should be money money money for ally and his two side kicks or else you can't always get what you want by the rolling stones

Or for the coaching staff its got td be money for nothing by dire straits

12 Apr 2014 19:01:30
A new manager takes a few months to get a team to play his vision of the game. After 3 years in charge Ally hasn't moulded a team, built a footballing philosophy or shown that we will be able to create a pathway from entering Murray park to running out at ibrox for the 1st team.

Never heard so much garrbage being talked rangers were actually the best team for most off the game bad defending cost them the game so why don't all you ally haters get a grip

Geo apart from today name the last time decent football was played

The people on here who are slagging of players are probably the same ones tha said charrlie adams was crap barry ferguson was crap allan hutton was crap steven naismith was crap the trouble with a lot of the so called rangers fans is I don't think they realy watch the game

I f u have never heared so much garbage what parof the planet pluto do u come fae aye they were a bit better not much we gave away the daft goals we missed he chances but as the saying goes 1 swallow does not make a spring we are total mince for 98%of games this season and last we played well against motherwell last year then go gubbed by dundee utd this year ditto if u think we don't have problems I will ge u a visa to let u come fae pluto tae carstairs because talking like that that's the only bit for u

@1 defending properly is as important as scoring. Rangers were found wanting at both ends today and by players signed by Ally. The team and the manager are simply not good enough. Nothing to do with hating Ally

The number 1 question is why are so many players who looked good when they came to gers now look sub standard I gave up my season book last year for a variety of reasons after following gers since 1956 and I won't be back till a new manager is in place, its not a case of being a ally hater its about being sensible and getting a time served tradesman in not an apprentice like ally is 5 years or 50 ally will never make a manager doug t. s. o

Re 3} do not know how others minds work, but for the life of me I can see absolutely no logic in statement.

The logic in the statement is that the so called rangers fans do not give the young guys a chance when they have a bad game they get a lot of stick with teams like dundee united the fans accept that some times the youn g lads will have bad games

Charlie Adam was crap & still is ask Gareth bale

Lbj d did you kick the table and fall out with everybody again yesterday? Its you whos going to end up in carstairs. Rangers played well yesterday and in my opinion we had a couple of passengers in the team which we could not get away with at this level and Ally did his best to change things with his subs and it nearly worked the third goal was one of these individual mistakes that happen I'm afraid.

we played beer but we gave goals away we missed chances we didn't change he way we played dundee utd did a half time an d stop us playing 2nd half while ally stood like king canute with his arms foldes clapping his hands like a performing seal

@8, so who are ''the young guys'' in this team,

Lw. The youngsters aren't getting a game, which is the whole point. Why are Mackay and MacAusland out on loan? McLeod has been injured, but there are still others who are simply not being given a chance. LBJ - the last person with those initials was a now dead president, a bit like your brain.

Well my brain told mee we flung goals away we missed chances n foster is hopeless along wi moshni aly did nothing what did your brain tell u

Or do u think that team and that manager will be good enough to win spl or the championship if that's what u think it ain't me that's brain dead all I can say is I rest my case my lord

N13 is the initials you are meaning not jfk just wondering lol

12 Apr 2014 16:45:30
Please, please, please Ally just go if you have any heart for the fans just go and take all your so called footballplayer with you they ccan't pass or score and I'm sick of watching this 5hit now and I've spent some of my little hard earned extra cash traveling over to watch that muck.

12 Apr 2014 17:38:21
Time for Ally to go obviously but let's face it, he ain't going to give up that fat salary of his voluntarily.

Hopefully he at least has the sense now to blood as many young players as possible but frankly I can't see as he has some deluded belief that going a sesaon unbeaten against part timers in one of the worst leagues in Europe is some kind of great achievement.

Wish he would go and buy a nice chateau besides the man he happily supported Charles Green and we would naver have to see his face again in Scotland.

As for the players today, well they at least showed the will to win today and I still believe DU were no great shakes and were there for the taking. With a half decent manager maybe we could be through to the final.

Arnold peralta what game he had, not everyone's favourite player, by far the best player on the pitch today though, well done hopefully keeps it up.

12 Apr 2014 18:51:45
can't believe this statement he dived all over the park took two strides then hit the ground no one can take credit the day mosini is worst player ever wouldn't get a game in worst team in the world he's an embarrassment to this club

No wonder you never revealed your name the tackles the run the passes, were all good, people on here were slating him, he just answered yous big time

Johncass your spot on mate,, peralta man of the match by a mile. @3 give credit were its due

Ive always said give parelta game time and played in possition he would show his worth but alas he is off in the summer and can we blame him hardly given games and played out of possition

12 Apr 2014 15:31:36
New here boys! To be honest plenty effort today far better but still pretty woeful! Couple plus points with a bit of proper coaching peralta could be a descent player! Aird had good first half! Still plenty negatives don't know what's happened to law? Thought we would struggle to keep him start of season now nobody would want him! Is there a worse player on planet that foster? Surely ally one of the kids wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as that person! But he did sign him eh

Thought rangers were unlucky today, but for woeful finishing and defending they would have won so I wouldn't blame ally too much for today but overall his managerial skills have been found wanting since he took over and needs to be replaced for rangers to progress, Dundee utd are a decent young side full of energy and pace and I wish rangers had taken their time and built with youth instead of clowns like moshni, black, cribari,, etc etc,
I may get shot down in flames here but I would have steven pressley at ibrox in a minute.

Good post Aberbear giving your slant on our current predicament.
We have three home games left so if boycotts are the way forward why don't the 'boycott season ticket' brigade avoid these games.
Re the first half today we actually tried to play football, in parts, but the final pass and speed of thought is not there.
There is also a massive lack of confidence but as Aberbear correctly states, some players fall far short of what is required.
I'm sorry Ally but the party is over and it is time to go.

Still plenty of blame for McCoist, why take off the best player? why no more subs? like Neil McCann said they showed more endeavour but no quality and no end product, so after 3 years in charge the McCoist tactic boils down to "do what you always do but try a bit harder" when that's all a manager on £800k has in his locker the blame should land squarely at his feet.

Was aird not struggling with injury?

12 Apr 2014 18:58:48
@4 no he was just pants

Steven pressley he is another who should never set foot in side ibrox he turned down good offer to go to east end enough said

12 Apr 2014 14:42:46
Well done utd. Good to see lots of youg scots in their team. Schoolboy mistakes from us but fans were fantastic.

Yes Nipponbear, Utd have good young players able to perform at the highest level of Scottish football but, always remember, they are well coached.
I honestly believe our young players, given the guidance, would be more than a match for them. Biggest problem is that our players do not get the chance to shine.

The only coaching rangers get is the one that takes them to the game

12 Apr 2014 13:54:43
School boy stuff at the back and in front of goal

On the bright side there was little between the teams in terms of quality or ability, basically the game was decided by a couple of missed sitters and a GK having an aneurysm.

Shows Rangers are already at a SPL standard, albeit a poor standard.

I have struggled long enough. Alistair it is now time to go son. If he is as he says he is a Rangers fan would he put up with this nonsense. I no longer accept the punishment my eyes have to bear.

I don't think it's premiership standards, it's a 1 off cup game that finished with a 3-1 defeat, at home, over a course of a season I reckon it would be a relegation fight with current team

Steer pike, how can after watching that
Can you say we are at spfl standards.
We are shoddy at back mosh makes Titus bramble look world class.
We are shoddy in midfield.
And guess what shoddy up front.

The gk made a howler, but how can you put all the blame on a back up gk who
Has played less than a handful of times
In a few years.

And ally constantly clapping his hands shouting come on doesn't work.

@1 Good for you steerpike. a bit of positivity. People forget that its the mighty Glasgow Rangers and all teams fear Rangers at Ibrox, that was obvious with united today. Once Rangers are back in the SPL they will be challenging in the first year and put manners on the eastend mob and the sheep. Ally has shown today he has what it takes. It was purely the fact that Rangers were playing on terrible pitches against teams who don't want to play football the last 2 seasons that has made Ally look bad. Ally was top class today against an SPL, that shows his true talent. Roll on Celtic because Rangers are on the way back

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Think you're still living in the 'Happy Days' Fonz. Could that be due to a semi final day on the bevvy? Who fears coming to Ibrox? I've seen many a joiner and plumber playing with confidence and putting us under pressure at Ibrox. We are far from intimidating mate. As for challenging Celtic and Aberdeen you're having a laugh. We'd need a complete squad and management overhall which we can't afford. Still, it hasn't stopped us before though eh! Let's continue writing cheques we can'afford for some tainted glory, why not?

Someone tell thefonz to wake up.
fans like you are the problem.
mighty rangers.
teams fear us at ibrox.
challenging in first year.
ally shown he has what it takes.

wot the hell are you smoking.

12 Apr 2014 19:08:19
the fonz. Can you not walk up and give ally a nudge with the elbow. Maybe get him working

Fonz are u another fae he planet pluto I will get u a visa tae to let intae country then carstairs maybe even put to sleep during nine ina row back at hogmanay an been bloto scince whatever it is u have its certainly the worst case I have heard of

@6, 7 & 8. Get a grip chaps. That was my attempt at sarcasm which obviously failed miserably. See my previous posts re Ally. I was trying to rip the diss out of steerpikes deluded optimism. Forgive me. BTW steerpike didn't see you on here last week defending the team. What changed? A defeat by a team in a league above last week too and not a peep out of you

@10 apologies Fonz, the subtly of your post eluded me. Glad to hear you were on the wind up. Thought you were in need of the men in white costs there.

Fonz all I can say to your posts is heeey

12 Apr 2014 11:52:23
I hope Ally has got the players back up for today's game. If they can't get passionate and angry enough to play out of their skins today then they shouldn't be playing for Rangers. Sure Dundee United are in the SPL but let's remember, the standard of the SPL isn't exactly great! United have won less than half of their SPL games and scored a little over one goal per game. Injuries apart, surely we have enough talent and experience to beat them on the day? Bad news is, having just seen today's team, is that Gallagher, Hutton and Crawford are all on the bench and Black is playing! That said, we have SEVEN players in the starting line-up with SPL experience. Come on the Bears!

I am honestly struggling to see where the creativity will come from this afternoon. I fear they have too much for us going forward and it could be a very one sided match. Our only hope is that they have a poor match today. For all they are an exciting team they have been prone to some poor performances

12 Apr 2014 12:25:17
Absolutely Doiger. The way some bears are going on you'd think we are playing Barca or Bayern and not a team of youngsters who are 4th, two points above ICT in a very poor league.

Well naz what do u think now 0-2mi am away oot tae plant some pansies rather than watch pansies its 2 much

@3

The most fight I have seen in the gers in a long time. Woeful finishing apart, they are playing well. Making chances, have to start burying them though.

Seems some people couldn't wait for utd to score to get on here an post, are you actually watching the game or planting flowers?

John cass I've been watching rangers for longer than I care to remember iam not waiting for dundee to score I won't be back as long as that hopeless money grabber is manager an I ain't going to sit and watch like a person and put myself in the mood I was in last sunday why must we suffer foster moshni smith defend like school kids shiels daly and co miss chances like school kids and what's left running about with absolutely no direction or purpose because on the day dundee utd could have been beaten if we had the right team selection and he had given some of the young defenders a chance john if your happy with performances like that your easy pleased but I am not we pay our money do go or watch on tv but if the football is mince every week I may be a fool but I won't be parted from my money to watch mince

We played good football, yeah some defending was poor but some was good, it could easily been 3-1 to rangers everyone out there tried 100% and ally is still getting stick that's not about the football that's people with a grudge trying to use the game as an excuse, your comment about clueless rich parasite in the first half confirmed that, did you see the team play? 2-0 wasn't a fair score

Why should he not get stick he signed goalkeeper foster moshni smith need I go on nick law has went that far back he could sit beside me dean shiels and nicky clark don't get enough match practice despite leage won a while ago the list of his mistakes is endless utd changed there tactics at half time and made it a lot harder for us but we change naw in ah missed a bit in garden he is only describe able as the hapless and hopeless mind u if everyone follows d king and spiv that could be amongst the last games at ibrox if they can swing the boycott it will all end in tears

0-2 was afair score we missed chances we gave away goals fair doesn't come into it u win games by skill and tactics and effort fair doesn't come into it how many times this season when we have played like diddys against wee teams who have played us of the park but run out of steam the last 20 mins that's no fair allys next quote will be we know how far we've come aye we scored this year the sad thing is dundee utd were there for the beating today but once again we pressed the slf destruct button john u only win games by skil an d sometimes abit of luck fair does not come into it

@ 7 "not fair score" your obviously a wee young laddie so I'll no slaughter you but see when Rangers won 54 titles do you think we bothered about the "not fair scores" or in the 88 seasons when we didn't win the title.
Nobody remembers runner ups two cup games two defeats improved performance or not- come in number 9 your times up

Ibj if I say the first half score wasn't fair on rangers, but lucky on Dundee utd what's the difference?

Am 28 nbear what has that got to do with anything, in the first half rangers were the better team so it wasn't a fair score IMO

Johncass

Are you on the wind up? Football isn't about the what could have beens. It's about results and progression. That's 2 games in less than a week where we have come up short and the weaknesses in the team have been exposed. The players or the manager aren't good enough and until they are replaced then the team will struggle. We are a poor team with a big wage bill

Let's be honest stewie if rangers win 3-1 today, you would still be on here bitching about ally its a no win with yous people

Johncass

Rangers didn't win though so what's your point?

Johncass

Rangers are rank rotten, the manager is rank rotten. Ally has needed a wage bill of £6-£7m to be rank rotten. If your happy with that then fine. Me and many others aren't and are entitled to come on here and a post about it.

What should the wage bill for a 35,000 st and a lot more fan base be? Not one person has says a player played good today, that's how much yous hate ally and the team, peralta the man yous love to hate the best player on the park, but it would go against the rules of the ally haters to praise someone eh?

@17

I thought Armstrong was man of the match. Peralta isn't a winger so why is he playing wide? As for Being Ally haters that's not the case. He isn't up to the job and needs replacing. Fans have the right to voice their opinion on the players and the manager. Fans at every club do it so why should we be any different?

Peralta was best player on the park, there is defo ally haters as amongst the posters in here, of course we are entitled to an opinion, but sometimes it goes a bit far and personal

Johncass I'm 59 and with you I think a lot of people on here were praying we got beat today they hate Ally more than they love Rangers I'm not 100%behind Ally never have been but he is here to get us back to the top league and so far he is on track I'll judge him again next year remember this team is almost all freebies I never thought we would win today but hoped we would fight and we gave away poor goals and we had some poor finishing but we were in it right up to ten mins to go and I thought we had another goal in us then bang the worst mistake of the game now I know we have a long way to go but today I saw a bit of fight that's more than I've seen in months

@19 looked at few player ratings on some sites and not one had Peralta ahead of Armstrong but as you say it's all about opinions. Peralta battled hard today and performed better than before however I still maintain he isn't a winger. As for the Ally hating stuff on here still think you are wrong as the majority haven't posted anything personal but that he isn't up to the job

Stewie are you going by other opinions that Armstrong was best on the park or your own? Someone actually says about ally standing with his arms crossed then someone says about him barking orders at people, the personal hatred of that is mccoist can't move without someone cricisicing is that about the football tatics?

@22 no I am not going with other opinions I just agreed with them that he was the best player on the park. Given the choice I know which one of the 2 I would rather have in my team. What about u? Would u rather have Armstrong or Peralta?

@20 "I'm not 100% behind Ally- never have been" well you are a damn good actor.
In Wallace and David Cooper Templeton (both of whom were good signings even though like his hero THEE Coop Templeton is inconsistent) we have spent more money than Dundee United Aberdeen and Motherwell have in total in the last 3 years.
We are financially the biggest basket case in Scotland and needed a manager who could work with and develop young players in the best facility in Scotland. You keep posting about a scouting network- well if your hero Ally hadn't been so profligate with the wages for some of the out of contract mature players and him and Green hadn't taken £1.8million in 2012=2013 in wages we might have been able to afford a scout. BUT Again I ask you what is the point of scouts if your manager will ALWAYS play mature players before good young players?
And yes I know Templeton is not a patch on The Coop but he is far from the worst Cribari Faure, Foster, Smith and Black are streets ahead in that category.

12 Apr 2014 09:53:55
Dave King is providing us with an alternative to being continually fleeced by the Rangers board who only pay any attention to us at the time they need us for our season ticket money.
Do we want to continue to exist as some kind of wraith with the lifeblood sucked out of us or do we want to escape from the clutches of these asset strippers, charlatans and chancers who have had a stranglehold on our club for far too long.

Dave King will kill your club once and for all, give him nothing, don't listen to him, if he wants it that badly tell him to buy the club and then sell it back to the fans. not going to happen. Be very very wary of false dawns, you have had enough of them

12 Apr 2014 09:24:34
Come on the Teddy Bears, let's stick it right up Thompson and co today. Give us all something to smile about, and make us proud. W. A. T. P

12 Apr 2014 07:17:07
Finally a Rangers player and x captain speaks out and is doing something, come on the rest of the legends it's time to unite and the Blue Knights as well, get behind Dave King and Richard Gough let's all stick it to the board, I for one am fed up with it all how much more lies can we take, you give them your money but they will pocket it for sure, it's time to act and fast! This is more important than the game today Come on Souness, Smith, Greig speak out now

12 Apr 2014 09:13:20
OP If you don't like being told lies you might wanna steer clear of the convicted criminal liar DK. Support him all you like but you won't get far trying to set him apart from the rest in terms of lies. He's got something of a track record in that respect.

Paulineblue 72, DK is our only chance left of survival, we have a real time served Jailbird sitting in our boardroom bleeding all of us while we do absolutely FA about it, WE NEED DK A LOT MORE THAN HE NEEDS US