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11 Oct 2018 08:28:19
Morning Folks, I've just read that we are back in court with Ashley over the sale of the strips. What is happening, I thought following the Club Statement only recently, that we would be announcing a new distributor shortly, any info folks.

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01 Oct 2018 19:52:00
Just to say Dave King is back in court on Wednesday. Not sure if it's with Ashley or the takeover panel.

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01 Oct 2018 20:01:53
Will be the TOP after the case was postponed due to legal errors in the TOP case where the judge effectively ridiculed the TOP case.

08 Oct 2018 20:12:54
Heard King council didn't get his case throwing out. He will go to a full trial late November.

09 Oct 2018 10:50:13
RIOM

Where did you hear this. Is this from the papers or another source.

09 Oct 2018 15:48:13
Where you hearing this, judge said he would announce his decision in 14 days.

09 Oct 2018 15:55:58
Judge said he would release decision in 14 days.

09 Oct 2018 23:45:51
Case dismissed👍.

10 Oct 2018 17:19:07
Ashley SD have taken rangers back to court today. Breach of contract re sale is strips.
I said he does not walk away.

10 Oct 2018 17:28:12
So iom your source wrong again. It was rangers and Ashley not top in court.

10 Oct 2018 18:02:31
Where u getting that from UJ.

10 Oct 2018 19:55:30
@jboy21 - wee attempt at winding RIoM up. Couldn't resist👍.

10 Oct 2018 20:18:42
Jboy21, that was always my fear, Ashley does not "walk away", especially from a barra boy.
It would appear that the original judge [ Mr Justice Phillips] told them to sort it out, but certain clauses could not be agreed --- easy to guess which ones. Now the dispute has been passed on to Mr Justice Teare. Again, I say, I think this will cost us more money.
I refuse to make further comment on dk, but if he is flaunting rulings, I will retain my doubts of our financial management.
As far as SG is concerned, the capture of him is probably a better signing than GS, and for that the board deserves the full credit.

10 Oct 2018 21:27:50
There is no doubt that DK deserves both criticsm and praise for his handling of Rangers extraction from SD and my more specifically. Let’s have it right, my or SD have no need for Rangers or our comparatively small time merchandising deal. While it is everything to Rangers and our supporters at this time, it is nothing to him and his business interests.

He is poking a big finger in our chest for pure devilment because he can. This has nothing to do with the principle of defending the clauses in a contract. Anybody can raise a legal action based on the conditions of an agreement based upon chance and speculation or a punt in the hope that the other party bottles it. In my work I see this all the time. You either cave in or keep fighting. I am glad to say DK is keeping on fighting otherwise we will never be rid of this man.

11 Oct 2018 10:21:04
I agree Billy, we are Ashley's toy.

11 Oct 2018 10:24:12
Brill mols I agree 100%.

11 Oct 2018 10:32:42
MA has always looked at the European stage to advertise his products, thus with our progress this year he is keener than ever to have an involvement.
I agree that he treats our club with contempt, mainly due to his conflict with our chairman, but I believe that battling in courts is not the answer. Possibly, negotiation between the two of them is impossible, but the court costs will hurt us more than them.

11 Oct 2018 12:03:23
Billyb, time to put your antipathy towards the chairman of our club aside!

DK is trying to do the best for our club whereas Ashley is doing his worst to cause our club hardship.

Ashley has brought nothing to the club and yet you hark on about our chairman as if he is the one running our club down.

IMO you cannot support the club and hate the chairman and the board at the same time so start emphasising the positives instead of only postseason me when there is something negative to pin on DK!

11 Oct 2018 14:55:07
I don't have to justify myself to you dk17, but is it not overdue for you to be a realist.

11 Oct 2018 17:07:01
Get in the real world dk17. When I high Court judge is telling both to grow up and get things sorted it's more than just Ashley to blame. This is simply personal now and it's our club who will suffer, again. Of course, Dave King never has or never will do anything wrong according to you.

11 Oct 2018 17:21:43
Of course you don’t have to justify yourself to me 😴!

All I see is your proclamations of undying lifelong support for GLASGOW Rangers whilst all teatime you have your fingers crossed that Dave King will fail so that you do t have to eat your words.

Other than the SG appointment and the odd result I have not seen one positive comment about our club even though we are unrecognisable compared to the recent past.

Every post is about how you hate DK - odd to say the least!

As for me, DK is head and shoulders above any other option so he gets my support 100%. You have made claims about all sorts of benefactors waiting in the wings but no one else can see or hear them!

11 Oct 2018 20:56:55
Where to start, I've been away working and no WiFi, so a message to you UJ, I'm too experienced to fall for that old one.
Now jboy you said my information was wrong - well keep your eyes open on the 28 and 29th of November. It's King against TOP. Oh and for the judge releasing HIS judgement, It was Lady Wolfe.

11 Oct 2018 21:50:42
Will do mate, lady Wolfe judge same thing, predictive text.

15 Oct 2018 15:12:10
UJ "case dismissed". Not sure what you mean. Could you please explain.

15 Oct 2018 18:51:36
He was only trying to wind me up, Banter.

25 Sep 2018 08:14:34
As readers will know, there has been quite the saga over the kit deal with Hummel - and the astonishing delays in getting the shirt to retail. Last week Rangers finally delivered, and an initial sale went online. But what of Sports Direct? Injunctions? Contracts? Where is or was the money going?

My instincts were aroused when suddenly the kit was announced for sale on the club website through the 'gersonline' shop via non-exclusive partner the ELITEGROUP-UK.

I wanted to be sure that the fat man (we all know who he is) was not behind it somehow so I thought I'd do a bit of digging. And here we go:

Taken from Elite Group website.

"Elite began working in the embryonic football merchandising market some 20 years ago, selling a range of products including branded clothing. Over the past two decades, we have built up a network of suppliers throughout the world, mainly in China and the Indian sub-continent. "

In 2010, The Elite Group went into partnership with the football clothing company, LBJ, whose aim was:

". to serve the UK and European football industry with vibrant, innovative and relevant designs of 'terrace' wear. Their attention to detail, service and products made them a market leader. The partnership between LBJ and The Elite Group enabled their sourcing capabilities to be strengthened and LBJ Sports Apparel Ltd was established. "

The chairman of Elite Group is Mr Neil Matthew Friar and he has been with them some 21 years firstly as a Director of Elite Sourcing Ltd found on Company check. He also held directorships in other companies one of which was LBJ hence the merger of the two companies.

Still not satisfied I decided to dig a bit more and found Neil Matthew Friar on LINKEDIN. Well what a surprise!

Director The Elite Group

February 1985 - Present 33 years 8 months

Chairman Hummel UK and Ireland

April 2018 - April 2018 1 month

Chairman The Elite Group and Hummel UK and Ireland

March 2018 - March 2018 1 month

Well, what to make of that.? I am satisfied that the one we know as the fat man has nothing to do with this. This has been a workaround as far as I can see to rid ourselves of him, which I believe is part of the delay in getting strips out. Any wrong spelling of players shirts is down to Jimmy Bell as he prints them, sorry Jimmy!

To end on another good note Elite Group/ LBJ supply a very large number of EPL clubs Spurs, Arsenal etc so they're a credible group and we appear to be safe with them.

So rest assured all you bluenoses the fat man ain't getting a penny as far as I can make out.

Let's go.

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25 Sep 2018 11:36:44
Well done BL on your research, and I hope this is how it plans out.
My one concern is the possibility of problems with the legalities regarding SD having the opportunity to " match any quote, " as was stated in the last visit to court. My fear is with the small print in the judge's last ruling, and we get caught short, again.

25 Sep 2018 13:38:34
Nice copy and paste work BL.

25 Sep 2018 15:48:26
BL read all u say, my only concern is why doe SD and Ashley allow them to sell Newcastle strips.

26 Sep 2018 07:08:09
I will be shot down again but in the words of Mel Gibson in Braveheart
Wait, wait, wait.
I'm sure all is OK with the website (excellent work BL) but just can't see Ashley rolling over that easy.

26 Sep 2018 14:04:13
IoM for once I agree, this group have contract to sell Newcastle jerseys online, that sets of alarm bells for me.

26 Sep 2018 15:51:06
Billy story going that Ashley did not make an offer due to all the hassle he is getting.
Not sure I believe he would just walk away.

26 Sep 2018 18:05:56
Anything is possible with him, Jboy, but I cannot believe he would "walk away", with nothing after all his previous efforts.

26 Sep 2018 23:27:43
Same old from usual suspects!

Try to get behind Dave King boys, what will it take for you to accept that he really has the best interests of the club at heart?

He has fought Ashley with a tiny fraction of Ashley’s wealth and whilst he has not won every battle, the club is far better off that we were in the recent past.

We don’t yet know how the kit is on sale given Ashley’s court actions but the facts are that Ashley is not selling the kit and SD and the club are - surely that is positive at least until we hear otherwise.

27 Sep 2018 07:21:27
WE don't KNOW in your post highlights our position. The fans are in the dark again. As for Mr King I await this year accounts and the much heralded share issue.

27 Sep 2018 12:36:11
dk17, change the record. I am sick to the back teeth of your take on things, so instead of refuting your comments, it is better to ignore your primary school posts.

27 Sep 2018 14:22:05
billyb, you can ignore my positivity towards the club but you're only sick of my comments because you find it so difficult to admit that Dave King is delivering success to the club despite your (ongoing) negativity towards him.

Time to swallow some pride and admit that just maybe, you are wrong about him, give him credit for what he has achieved and be thankful that he is proving you wrong because if you were right we would be in a dire state right now.

The site is full of supporters admitting they were wrong about Morelos, Halliday, Tav etc - why don't you join the party and show that you are enjoying our current successes on and off the pitch?

27 Sep 2018 23:30:20
Am with DK17 👍.

28 Sep 2018 06:52:00
Surprise! surprise!

28 Sep 2018 17:11:00
Cheers Mols!

Glass half full is far more relevant these days given the team, the strips on sale etc but a few prefer to keep to the negatives.

Not sure what would change billyb or IOM opinions on DK and the current board but we have very few reasons to complain at the moment.

29 Sep 2018 21:09:42
Share issue completed with blessing of takeover panel. Where are all the people who said it would not happen. Said takeover panel would block it.
This is a positive move going forward.

29 Sep 2018 22:23:30
Seems to me King has boxed clever once again, another small victory for him in battle, let’s hope the war is now over and we can all move on post Ashley!

30 Sep 2018 08:43:08
Wee bear, all quiet from the naysayers when there is something positive happening!

Share price 34p
Share issue going ahead with TOP approval
Kits on sale
Ashley gone to ground (for now at least)
Team on fire

Yes there are still things going on in the background that could be better but no doubts that DK is leading us back to the top.

30 Sep 2018 18:26:08
Dk17 show me where you're seeing rangers shares trading at 34p
JP Jenkins the platform for trading rangers shares are trading at 20p.

01 Oct 2018 09:40:06
Jboy, you are right! I googled in a rush before boarding a plane and saw 34p but it was old news!

Still, much to be positive about especially on the business side but a few glitches on the playing front like yesterday are always going to happen.

01 Oct 2018 15:04:43
Agreed. I was ready to sell half my shares at 34p lol.

23 Sep 2018 08:44:04
Still no mention of what the club gets for the strips and if SD and jabba the hutt get any £s have we paid them off or are they still getting a cut? I've waited a while for strip but I'm not diving in till I get clarification. An extra couple of weeks no going to hurt me now.

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24 Sep 2018 09:09:19
The club are suggesting that we should buy strips via elite “if you want to contribute to the success of the club”

Not sure where there is ambiguity in that.

I’m pretty sure that SD are not involved with Elite (no connection via companies house) so we should buy.

I doubt that Ashley is completely gone but think that we may be trying a workaround by not appointing an exclusive partner to sell merchandise at least until any court action is over.

Might be that we allow anyone to sell the kit including Ashley - we could then argue that SD are not left in a disadvantaged position although we might not earn as much as we would with a single partner.

25 Sep 2018 01:10:48
bgate - I was tginking the same as you.

DK - a wee indiction from the board as to what propotion of the retail price the club receives would be very reassuring.

22 Sep 2018 09:55:07
Dk17 I ask the same question, surely the monkeys off our back?

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22 Sep 2018 10:08:04
I’m not sure but it looks as if we may not offer exclusive sellers by rights so that JD, SD or anyone else can sell our merchandise.

In that case we should only but directly from the club.

Best wait for an hour official announcment from the club b unless Jboy21’s golfing pal can enlighten us!

22 Sep 2018 12:31:25
Dk17 time will tell, he thought we would be back in court to sell strips. We don't know if this was the case or not.
I suspect it was.
Don't know when I will get chance to golf with this guy again only been in his company twice.
Also he's offering his opinion not giving away secrets.

18 Sep 2018 21:12:51
Jboy did you play golf with the former director? Any news? Anything about the strips.

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18 Sep 2018 22:38:52
Yep. Read post. No deal from ash yet. We will be back in court. There is no time frame for him to make an offer
Court will be setting a date.

21 Sep 2018 17:52:39
Club says strips are available from 5.30 tonight. initial batch and not via SD as far as I can see.

21 Sep 2018 20:04:20
Great news! Let's hope they're not cutting corners or we will end up back in court, seems a bit weird that there's been no announcement about retail partner etc and all of a sudden we are selling the strips ourselves. Still won't be buying one just yet till I know 100% Ashley gets 0 % of the cash.

21 Sep 2018 21:00:01
It's through elite group, a non exclusive partner.

21 Sep 2018 21:18:43
Marco c wonder who this group are.

21 Sep 2018 21:56:35
All I can find online is an IT company.

22 Sep 2018 09:46:54
Me too, they may be a platform for us to sell online.

23 Sep 2018 00:35:25
Found them, elitegroup-uk.com work with quite a number of UK clubs, including hearts.

23 Sep 2018 11:55:21
Marco, I've looked them up, work with, wolves, Liverpool, spurs and wee worry for me have contract to sell Newcastle strips.

25 Sep 2018 22:14:43
Well done dave king.

26 Sep 2018 15:53:05
Apparently us and SD were in court last Wednesday in London and Ashley lawyers said they were not making an offer.
We were then free to sell strips.

01 Sep 2018 21:58:06
Would lov to kn even an estimate of how much rangers tv took in from Russian game? Could be an indication of our tv market. how can one find out?

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02 Sep 2018 11:39:34
No idea but would expect a lot more watched it for free than paid for it on Rangers tv.

03 Sep 2018 00:19:13
Jack wuz fouled nae bother - should hauf been free Greegs was brilliant man - 800 supporters was a killer! After Ibrox return need tae get that sorted!

10 Sep 2018 19:32:44
Blueblaze, agreed the fan situation at each ground needs sorted, however don’t think it will be as king can’t deal with the only fans left in the stadium being the Celtic fans celebrating!

11 Sep 2018 14:35:32
@whiskers007 - Celtic could have been the bigger person and left it as it was at the piggery but chose tit for tat. Then decided when they knew they were first up and the impending safety issues that it was all Rangers fault, diluting the status of the fixture etc.

11 Sep 2018 14:41:43
Bluebaze and whisker. Won't be sorted this season as we have sold season tickets for all games in broomloan stand.
Remember this was driven by small number of fans at agm who did not want Celtic fans at ibrox.
So may not change for a long time.

11 Sep 2018 23:26:05
Union Jack cmon, they were right to lower our ticket issue.

12 Sep 2018 08:53:34
Its diluted what is one of the best football rivalries in the world. I can understand rangers supporters wanting us lot out to a certain degree due to season ticket holders losing their seats. I've been to the nou camp and watched the away supporters up in the cage and the atmosphere was pish. There is too much petty crap/ paranoia on both sides and its almost laughable.

12 Sep 2018 14:48:35
@jboy21 - I never said they weren’t. My point is they are bleating about it after the event when they are struggling to segregate 800 when they had a system in place that worked for 8000.
Just like our club pandered to a minority they did the exact same . 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

12 Sep 2018 18:27:05
Segregation virtually impossible, there was no end for us to go to, I won't return after last match, felt unsafe first time ever at parkhead. My 19 son was very intimidated.
Will be same farceat ibrox I'd expect.

12 Sep 2018 19:14:16
@bribhoy - for 6 years or more you lot have stated there is no ‘ Old Firm ‘, Rangers died and Sevco are a new club. Now it’s big bad Rangers fault for diluting one of the worlds most passionate fixtures.
You are this weeks Ultimate Moonhowler - your prize is a 2 weeks all expenses paid stay at the Carstairs Pen! 😱😂😱.

16 Sep 2018 14:51:03
When have you ever read me saying "rangers died" UJ? . ill stand by my comment that it is rangers fault for the ticket allocation. And ill take the ultimate moonhowler award, another trophy on the celts way to 56;)

20 Sep 2018 02:02:40
if there is no reduction to the away allocation for the O. F. at the end of December, would the 2 badges and no numbers brigade look childish? and would they refuse to take up that allocation as a result?

01 Sep 2018 11:02:05
Does anyone know how much of the £12.5m share issue is coming into the club? How much is being used to pay back loans?

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01 Sep 2018 12:27:01
Don't think any of it coming into the club. Paying back loans and diluting share issue so DK doesn't have to comply with court.

01 Sep 2018 14:01:31
Blueberry, does not matter if it comes into club or dilutes loans, it reduces our debt balance,
Plus europa money is a massive increase on revenue this season.

01 Sep 2018 17:22:17
Jboy21, it is true what you say, but the reason it is being done is for control. Yes, we have an ace in SG, but I have no doubt that with dk holding the purse strings, if he actually does, we will eventually come a cropper. I sincerely hope not, but I do not like his business technique, as it is too similar to dm's.
However, while the vast majority of our true fans can see both sides of the argument, certain people on this forum will not face the possibility that their faith is being abused. Yes, dk17, that includes you, so if the stick of dynamite explodes up your ass, don't say you were not warned.
Anyway, that is my opinion, but after a famous victory tomorrow, I will be heading back to Portugal to finish off my sabbatical.

01 Sep 2018 17:29:20
Time will tell billy.

01 Sep 2018 17:46:31
Jboy21, I don't always agree with you but I respect your opinion. Cheers.

01 Sep 2018 18:15:16
BUT, billyb, you accuse me of not seeing any negatives in DK (despite me regularly talking about my reservations) and yet you are wholly one-sided against him.

You fail to give him any credit (apart from a teensy wee bit after Thursday result) for dragging us from the very bottom to where we are now (guaranteed to win the league this year according to one of your other posts) .

Unless Father Christmas has started wearing blue, I’m pretty certain that it was Dave King who brought in Steven Gerard and Mark Alen and it is Dave King who has supported them in the transfer market this year.

As before he is far from perfect but is acting in the best interests of Rangers and in the absence of any other suitor with deep pockets I’ll give him 100% support.

01 Sep 2018 18:25:01
Billy enjoy our chats as you can see both sides off the coin.

09 Sep 2018 20:57:16
I've tried to offer the olive branch with both jboy and DK17 but for some reason they both rejected it. Both Billy b and myself have similar (not 100% the same but similar) views. At the end of the day we all want the same thing the Gers back where they belong. One church many voices.

10 Sep 2018 14:36:43
IoM I will talk if you don't refer to me as a liar, try not deny it, have balls to say maybe you overstepped mark.
Every one has a view, we often don't agree. How good I think would be a bit of respect on here.
U come on here and refer to me and dk17 as brothers when in fact we often disagree. on occasion I agree with billyb, but we respect each other's views.
Try think about it before you launch in.
Think twice before speaking once.

11 Sep 2018 07:25:37
If I used the word liar (I honestly can't remember that) I apologise.

11 Sep 2018 07:56:37
Return IoM, apologies accepted.

11 Sep 2018 18:29:40
Team man-hug 👬😂😂😂.

11 Sep 2018 18:56:20
F/ blue just waiting on jboy and DK17 tag teaming me lol.

13 Sep 2018 22:06:24
IoM, jboy will give you reciprocated respect, but as far as dk is concerned I have my doubts.

14 Sep 2018 14:36:22
Correct Billyb I respect all on here. Everyone entitled to a view.
On fishing expedition Sunday golf with ex gers Director
Will b trying to suss strips etc.

14 Sep 2018 21:32:01
Good luck jboy, but enjoy your day.

16 Sep 2018 16:54:48
Good day out. Told we r still arguing re strip deal with Ashley. He is playing serious hard ball. No offer made yet. Can people who say he has matched offer confirm where they see this
Heading back to court I’m being told.

16 Sep 2018 19:32:49
Thought so mate Colster on banter page had told me sd had matched bid I didn't think I had saw it anywhere. Think we all know Ashley will make this as slow and painful as he possibly can.

17 Sep 2018 09:06:06
Other snippet was rangers, mark Allen working hard to sign coulibally in January.

17 Sep 2018 09:38:13
Your info on the strips would stack up jboy, as I believe that Ashley's agenda is to squeeze DK out totally.
I also think that although we are making good progress, there is friction behind the scenes.
This year we have lost out on probably what would have been the biggest income ever on merchandising. However, we may be able to salvage something pre Christmas.

17 Sep 2018 13:57:50
Billyb golf partner said it will work in Kings favour ie rangers due to sd attitude.

17 Sep 2018 16:04:09
Can't see it not working in our favour the court will not like Ashleys attitude and will surely see he is stalling, and force his hand t put offer in. However I think ashLey will be aware of this already, and will see it as a win regardless as he has cost us millions in strip sales by delaying it past summer, the optimum time for strip sales.

17 Sep 2018 16:46:22
Possibly jboy, but lack of income can alter attitudes quickly. After all, a fortune has been lost, never to return.

17 Sep 2018 18:27:31
Fb and billy agree with both of u. Ashley does not care if he loses money on Rangers.

19 Sep 2018 06:22:36
Fb the biggest problem with courts is that actions are not always allowed for. It is a simple case of the law and how it is applied. Ashley's lawyers will trump ours and we will probably pick up the tab for the privilege.

31 Aug 2018 19:30:59
Anybody know if any news from shareholder meeting today on status of salas of new kits and when available to purchase.

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31 Aug 2018 20:27:51
Bankie only discussed share issue no other business.

31 Aug 2018 17:55:08
Share issue approved today, 12 million pounds.
Some interesting names getting shares from Hong Kong and Japan.

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31 Aug 2018 19:36:11
Jboy any news on the date of the release of the audited accounts.

31 Aug 2018 19:55:11
Yes Jboy21, £12.6m resoundingly and overwhelmenly approved which is v good news.

31 Aug 2018 20:14:35
The timetable and deadline for publishing the annual statutory audited accounts is set out in the Companies Act. What is your point?

31 Aug 2018 21:12:54
Bank is, same old from IOM.

Note, fantastic result last night, another few signings but IOM has nothing positive to say!

Even Frustratedblue and billyb have given Dave King a wee bit of credit!

And IOM wonders why I think his blue credentials are dubious.

31 Aug 2018 21:24:08
Begrudged credit I may add, but with the team performing the way it is, and SG "happy" with the backing he is getting, what else could I do. If nothing else I am a realist, that is a bluenose to the core.

31 Aug 2018 22:43:42
Not begrudged billy, just a bit tongue in cheek!

I’m a glass half full type and believe that DK is our best option for now despite his indiscretions.

Same with our players, if they pull on the jersey and do their best they will get my support even if the fall short. Of course, I’ll happily take a better player and wish those who leave all the best.

Same with DK, hell hand over to someone in due course and the club will be in a far better position that when he took over.

31 Aug 2018 23:25:46
Well said Billy b. Great financial boost from Europe this season, not expected by many.

18 Sep 2018 23:54:40
Dave k is our only option and the fact that he and the board do not take a salary ( correct me if I am wrong) I think is amazing and a fact that all neighsayers fail to appreciate or recognise. To their own detriment I may add.

 


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