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23 Nov 2017 18:11:33
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22 Nov 2017 13:12:58
Rangers injury update Murty days Bruno has a back injury that ruled him out of the weekends game and it's a case of day by day to see how he is.

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22 Nov 2017 15:32:08
Not what the Sun or BBC say, mind you who knows what to believe any more

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22 Nov 2017 17:28:40
The same paper that stated he had redused to be a sub now reports that be is injured and in a race to be fit. Shocking journalism.

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22 Nov 2017 18:33:06
Was there an apology anywhere?
Or were we supposed to assume Mr murty was talking bollocks.
The same Mr murty the press all like and get on with.
Welcome to the hot seat graham

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22 Nov 2017 21:29:18
Souness it certainly wouldn't be the sun or the BBC. Are you another Tim trying to create unrest

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23 Nov 2017 11:04:52
we will be back on top soon enough!

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23 Nov 2017 11:37:25
Gary75 - no, it was on the BBC Scottish rumours page for 2 days - linking to the Sun. Classic BBC impartiality.

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23 Nov 2017 16:58:29
I was disputing that they were saying that but souness was asking who to believe and I said it wouldn't be the sun or the BBC

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21 Nov 2017 17:24:02
I was told today to expect no appointment or any announcements about new manager until after AGM and that two potential manager lists have been drafted. A list that current board will pursue without investment and another that requires investment.
The current board expect the resolution to be passed which will enable investment and rumours about it coming from a North American group being guided by Alastair Johnston aren't going away.

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21 Nov 2017 18:13:23
Who in their right mind is going to want to invest in us? In the papers every week for all the wrong reasons

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21 Nov 2017 18:37:32
Govanfront ----It is at a time like this that investors will look very closely at an investment.

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21 Nov 2017 18:40:39
Goven front it's res11 at the agm that he's talking about. it's been blocked for the last two years but this time it should go through. well here's hoping. bcos the board are banking on it going through. as a matter of fact res11 is massive to our club going forward so fingers crossed enough votes get it over the line this time

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21 Nov 2017 18:42:58
what wrong reasons, for sacking a twit and not paying 800 grand for someone who would not take rangers forward as he has proved against cetic and his recent results best he could do would get you second place, you should not read too much into what you read in the rags
they are all full of rubbish anyway they only listen to what they are fed with wait and see what the board come out with

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21 Nov 2017 19:16:26
Well with the exception of the SD deal I’m struggling to remember a ‘good story’ coming out of Ibrox. I’m not being all doom and gloom I just can’t see the fairly tale investor thing being the answer everyone is hoping for. I will wait patiently like everyone else and hope I’m wrong!

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21 Nov 2017 20:21:48
You do know that the money raised not a penny will go to the club it will go to paying off loans also why would anyone in the right mind dilute there current shares and buy more

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21 Nov 2017 20:44:47
Gordo loans are not getting paid back they are to be turned into shares in a share issue and if you buy more shares less chance of diluting your shares, think about it.

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21 Nov 2017 20:52:44
If that’s he case they should be upfront and tell us. This is turning into a farce as per usual. I don’t think there are many fans that wouldn’t accept waiting till after the AGM if we were just told that was the case.

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21 Nov 2017 20:55:02
not a penny . that surely will depend how much money is raised Gordo, and also what the terms of the soft loans are

issuing new shares is one way a company can raise money its fairly common practice Also the price which will be offered to shareholders will be at a discount to market price that’s why it’s attractive

all of this of course is dependant or res 11 being passed.

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21 Nov 2017 21:30:47
Its always been public knowledge the loans will be converted into shares when they can be.

Im sure rangers first/ club 1872 also have a load of cash to invest to boost fan ownership levels or keep its holdings strong after a share issue.

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21 Nov 2017 21:40:02
Dave King himself has said that all loans will be paid back in shares at some point if you don’t know this then you clearly haven’t been reading much over the last couple years

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21 Nov 2017 22:12:13
Hopefully SuperAlly can be bothered to vote this time or has at least Proxied his rights!

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22 Nov 2017 01:12:10
Sticks in the throat the fact we paid around £3-4m for two imposters in Herrera and Pena

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22 Nov 2017 05:58:11
To be fair res11 was ruuned last year by 1% and that was wee sally that never voted but ashleys shares are gone now so it shoukd be straight forward. let's hope we get investment.

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22 Nov 2017 09:26:18
the money raised will be to pay people off so what investment this isn't a magic wand that wipes all the debt away like king as said it doesn't make sense but if you really believe that then that's up to you think of this logically the more shares there is the less they are worth for instance say you spent 1 million on the original shares and that got you 10% the loans are at 18 million that means your shares are diluted

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22 Nov 2017 10:23:53
You vote against it then Gordo. Simple.

As stated by nearly everyone above, the soft loans will be converted into shares reducing the debt. Current shareholders will be given the opportunity to re-invest to maintain their shareholding and hopefully this will provide some much needed capital.

No magic wand, but this will help the club. Most of the investors are now supporters of the club so they are not in vesting to make a huge profit.

Hopefully with a new retail deal, kit sponsor and shirt sponsor we will be able to raise additional cash each year. Also if the DOF and scouting system just put in place we would hope to make some money on player transfers and finally if we have a better manager and players in place we can get some money from European competition.

The business model is the easy bit. It’s getting the right manager and better players that seem to cause us problems.

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22 Nov 2017 13:08:37
Gordo it doesn’t makes shares worth less money it just means that the percentage of the company you own is less

For instance if you have 1% of the shares and there is 10,000 shares and in the next share issue they release another 10,000 shares you then own 0.5% of the shares in the company but your share value isn’t effected by this.

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22 Nov 2017 13:48:04
I may be totally wrong btw so if anyone wants to correct me if I am then I’m fine with that as I have zero stock experience lol

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22 Nov 2017 13:51:43
Sorry for another post but this is what I found on the interweb this is direct copy and paste.

In simplest terms, when a company creates new shares and sells them, it's true that existing shareholders now own a smaller percentage of the company. However, as the company is now more valuable (since it made money by selling the new shares), the real dollar value of the previous shares is unchanged.

That said, the decision to issue new shares can be interpreted by investors as a signal of the company's strategy and thereby alter the market price; this may well affect the real dollar value of the previous shares. But the simple act of creating new shares does not alter the value in and of itself.

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21 Nov 2017 02:14:41
Tony Pulis was on 2m a year at WBA.

So that's a big dirty NOPE for us then.

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21 Nov 2017 09:26:43
Well he is on £0 now.

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21 Nov 2017 09:37:41
More like a big dirty don’t want him anyway!

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21 Nov 2017 12:35:34
Totally agree with rick on this one. Pulis isn't an option.

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21 Nov 2017 13:08:29
id take Pulis.

If we take McLeish on now it will be a joke as we could have had him 3 weeks ago. Are we running out of targets now?

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21 Nov 2017 13:23:44
Gio to b manager

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21 Nov 2017 14:20:05
No he won’t

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21 Nov 2017 18:31:32
No chance

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21 Nov 2017 18:59:32
anyone on here remember Eck having no wins in 10 or 11 with a far better team than we have now.

fans at front door calling for his head

sorry bears i think it’s a mistake

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22 Nov 2017 06:00:08
Mcleish was always getting the job, the board are trying to get him his £15 million for transfers, that was his original request and they chose pedro the cheap option that cost us all in about 13 mill on players and him get p45

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22 Nov 2017 11:36:50
Pullis's recent record at WBA doesn't make very good reading, 3 wins in the last 25 matches!

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20 Nov 2017 11:56:13
Per SSN at 1150am - Mcleish has not been contacted by Rangers regarding the current managers job - neither has McInnes - Rangers are beginning to consider a short list - for the job - but there is no increased urgency to appoint a new manager despite Saturdays defeat -

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20 Nov 2017 12:24:32
Gio van bronckhurst

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20 Nov 2017 12:24:36
Really hope it’s not McLeish. What a backwards step that would. I get he got Birmingham promotes and won league cup but he also got them relegated twice and has been sacked at every job since. Winning the league on Helicopter Sunday will forever be one of the best days ever but he was also very fortunate and he filled the team full of some of the biggest duds we ever had. For every Prso there was a Nieto, Maniero, Bernard, Ostenstad, Capucho etc

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20 Nov 2017 13:52:20
Please be Gio!

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20 Nov 2017 14:47:37
Mprent, you are knocking those lads but I honestly think every single one of them would walk into the current team haha.

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20 Nov 2017 17:18:25
Mprent WHO do you want as manager?

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20 Nov 2017 18:25:05
the board has to act fast we need a manager asap to get his style across and see if he can improve any of the current squad which may save us money in the summer it can be done because its happened with that lot i see no positives from giving it to someone for rest of the season

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20 Nov 2017 19:04:49
In an ideal world I would like Gio but even if that were possible I have my doubts if he could manage with no budget. I would also take De Boer, Bilic, Allardyce, McInnes, O’Neil or the Tea lady before McLeish I take it you’re one of those fans who can’t see beyond the last Blueberry? Romanticising what McLeish done and forgetting how bad he was the rest of the time.

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20 Nov 2017 19:08:34
What about Eggan, Jeffers, Namouchi, Mladenovic, that Italian striker that never played (can’t remember his name), Vanoli. They get a game lol?

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20 Nov 2017 19:28:06
Who signed Frank De Boer

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20 Nov 2017 19:54:36
So you’re ignoring all his poor signings because he signed frank de Boer for half a season where as great a player he was, he helped us win nothing? In fact did he not even miss the deciding penalty that put us out the cup? Not knocking De Boer but some people seem help bent on romanticising McLeish. He won 2 titles in 6 years. That’s not good enough.

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20 Nov 2017 20:01:07
Bonnisell, Ben Stevens, Emerson, Muscat, Kalenga, Fetei, Carcary, Djordic, Fan Fan, Rae, Maniero, N’Guessien. He signed all them. Granted he got Prso, Novo. Andrews, De Boer (6months), Boumsong (6months) but do we seriously want to take a step back and take a guy who’s last job was in Egypt and he got sacked after a few months?

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20 Nov 2017 20:01:57
PULIS

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20 Nov 2017 20:21:34
I'd be surprised if anyone is announced as manager before the AGM. The Board need Resolution 11 to be passed so that external investment can be injected. If the rumours about serious investment from North America are true then it's likely that such investors would want a say in who gets appointed. If R11 doesn't pass then maybe the Board will lose their appetite to invest further.

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21 Nov 2017 14:57:47
McLeish did sign some proper duffers but he didn't have anything like the budget advocatt had. Think he won 6 trophies but apparently that's not good enough now. I am not a huge fanboy of McLeish, just don't like the bashing he was getting. He beat O'Neill's Celtic on many occasions, how far away are we from doing that now? If money was no object I'd go for de Boer.

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22 Nov 2017 06:28:55
Well might as well just get mccoist back as according to everyone on here we've no had a decent manager since watty. Guess what we never will again. Souness, smith, advocaat. The last real winners at ibrox then. Mcleish signed some duds but he still had a team that pkayed for the badge and coukd get a decent winning run together.

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22 Nov 2017 12:34:17
Thing is you can make facts suit any argument Blueberry. Yes McLeish won 6 trophies but he won 5 of them in his first year and a half. So by my count that means he won 1 in 4 years. Also he won the title the year Celtic got to Seville because they got to Seville. Head to head that year they had beat us more than we beat them. Think we got one win against them that year. McLeish had his time and we will be forever grateful for what he delivered but overall he’s a terrible manager and that has been proven at every club he’s been at. Even clubs where he’s had success his failures at those clubs far outweigh his success. How can we move forward when we keep looking back? Ye he didn’t have he budget of Advocaat but he also had a far better budget than we have now and wasted most of it

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19 Nov 2017 10:56:07
So Coleman saying he turned down the Rangers job. Just as I said yesterday. i'm now hearing that following yesterday's disaster De Boer is to be contacted again after initial contact was made during the Scotland Holkabd game.

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19 Nov 2017 17:36:34
I wish I had a made up job called director of football. Absolute nonsense and not needed.

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19 Nov 2017 20:28:29
Who cares coleman is a single fish.

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20 Nov 2017 16:09:53
Nowhere can I see Coleman has said he turned down the Rangers job, only one paper guessing that.

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19 Nov 2017 10:37:51
Frank de boer will be announced this week. Watch this space.

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19 Nov 2017 11:28:52
No he won’t!

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19 Nov 2017 16:19:21
Hope so because we need sum1 in asap. can't keep just leaving it week 2 week hoping murty pulls us out the rubbish

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19 Nov 2017 20:29:59
Regardless whomever gets the job, won't make a difference. Rangers are nearly done. 3rd finish again is our best shot.

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19 Nov 2017 21:31:42
Would love to see de bour as manager

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20 Nov 2017 08:48:34
I know your hurting bud, we all are, but stop taking a lot of rubbish! 3 points between the sheep and us with more than half a season to go? Go do the maths mate, a new manager will easily pull that back.

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23 Nov 2017 08:14:23
Edinsblue, is Frank being unveiled tomorrow?

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19 Nov 2017 07:03:30
Triple m, this week. x.

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19 Nov 2017 08:53:03
What is triple m 🤔

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19 Nov 2017 09:08:01
Mcleish miller murty

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19 Nov 2017 10:22:25
God help us if that scenario came to fruition

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19 Nov 2017 11:43:07
Mcinnes McLean and moult

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19 Nov 2017 13:01:26
Mclean? Moult? This week am sure transfer window shut

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19 Nov 2017 13:42:26
You not think deals are made outside the transfer window?

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19 Nov 2017 20:30:41
Meagre money men

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18 Nov 2017 22:07:05
After today's performance obviously our thoughts will turn again to a new manager, so for the fourth and last time I will try to give you all this information, but admin will probably block it again. We have already had preliminary contact regarding this - with the de Boer twins. Frank as manager and Ronald as head coach. The board and the DoF are unanimous about this and an announcement could now be brought forward. Compensation for Ronald is minimal and they are happy to keep Murty and JJ in their usual roles. No point in saying where this comes from except it wasn't a garage, a night club, a queue at the ice cream van or the reception area at Carstairs. This is good info.

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19 Nov 2017 02:39:03
could now be brought forward? if it was that much set in stone why would we be waiting at all?

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19 Nov 2017 09:37:42
Hope this happens "dutycalls" as experiment #3 with an under 20s coach is NOT the answer.
If our club ever needed a lift and a WOW factor it is now.
DeBoer brothers, Vanbronkhurst, Coleman (too late) are three that would show our intent but I for one am dreading the drivel that will be spewed when we eventually choose our next gaffer

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18 Nov 2017 12:07:05
The board had been in contact with Coleman for the managers job who was considering taking the job, but who was also looking at other offers. Sunderland offered more money which swung it for him. The board will now give Murty a run whilst they speak to other targets. I'm my opinion Coleman would have been an excellent signing - modern approach and likes to play attractive football. However, Murty has the makings of an excellent coach - as long as he can develop his confidence.

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18 Nov 2017 17:22:23
did you ever see wales play when they didn't have bale or ramsey playing they were utter garbage i'm glad he went to sunderland he’s bn a failure everywhere then got the wales job where there was zero pressure on him having one of the best players in the world available to him made a big difference

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18 Nov 2017 19:38:01
Single fish from the OP

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18 Nov 2017 19:40:29
After today’s performance Murty has no chance of getting the job! He had Alves sitting up in the directors box while he gives Danny Wilson a game. Bring in Mcleish starting on Friday until end of Season if he does well then he gets job if not he walks.

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18 Nov 2017 20:15:36
He said bfore the game alves had a sore back

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18 Nov 2017 23:15:44
What a Load of rubbish you are basically saying you would like Coleman but trying to make out like you know more than you do lol you actually know what Colemans thoughts are 😂😂 another terrible post lol

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19 Nov 2017 13:31:52
Or not so terrible post if you read the papers today.

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18 Nov 2017 05:54:38
Anyone think bilic is worth ago? ' I think he could be a great manager for the gers, very savvy, great man manager, bad start to the season at west ham but before that had taken them to a new level, could be open to taking the job and restoring his reputation. i now live in Australia and have heard Ange Postecoglou being mentioned, he's the national manger but wants a job in Europe, going to leave the national job even though they have qualified for World Cup, mark Bosnic been saying he would jump at the gers job. Only passing on what is being talked about here. Ps home for Christmas so anyone with a spare ticket for old firm would make my day/ month/ year!

Cheers.

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18 Nov 2017 09:47:52
Nope.

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18 Nov 2017 11:37:48
Sorry Mols not for me! Not having a go but what has he done worthy of note as a manager except do quite well with Croatia - I do like bilic but he’s nowhere near up to the task of managing the most successful club ever! He’s quite fiery (like Pedro) - buys unfit and bad tempered players (like Pedro) and can’t change tactics to win a game (like Pedro) - No from me! In all honesty if the board and players have confidence in him give murty it till end of season then go from there!

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18 Nov 2017 17:34:03
not for me either mate, in terms of cost and ability. very expensive gamble i feel would most likely not pay off

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18 Nov 2017 21:30:53
Can anybody tell me, or tell everyone what exactly has Billy Davis done that is so bad that he can't be considered for the job? Now if it's because in his PRIVATE life, he likes a bit of how's your father, well who doesn't and what's it got to do with anyone else as it's PRIVATE. So unless he has been involved with illegal stuff? Then surely it's about football, and I think he would be hard as nails, take no prisoners and turn us in to contenders.

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18 Nov 2017 22:45:10
Disgrace as a person no way a would ever set foot in ibrox again if he got the job frank de boer is the man

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18 Nov 2017 23:16:43
Definitely. i'm not a fan kf EPL managers taking the job but think he has a w

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18 Nov 2017 23:39:59
Southsideger. elaborate please. Billy Davies is a disgrace? Gez peace your talking complete pish! He wouldn't put up with the rubbish that's on display at the moment that's for sure. Its a witch hunt against him and it's shocking.

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19 Nov 2017 11:26:30
You must be his pal from pollok never a rangers manager in his life mate so you give me peace

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