Rangers Banter Archive August 13 2015

 

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13 Aug 2015 22:50:52
Dave king hurry up and show us your money if you really mean business pal allan desperate for ibrox but he can't hang on forever .

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13 Aug 2015 23:37:54
Wake up buddy! There is no money! If use really wanted Allan u would have him! Stubbs can say all he wants,but if use hadn't started the bidding at a hundred odd grand and went in with a serious bid then u would have him!

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14 Aug 2015 00:02:52
Have to agree there isn't enough money for Allan. Think you'll find the last bid of £300k was our upper limit. Tbh I don't think Celtic really need him it's just them flexing their financial muscles and making sure a player with potential doesn't end up at Ibrox. Let's face it for £275k plus a couple of players not needed at Parkhead it's not much of a gamble for them. Sorry but the real man to blame in all of this is Ally. Had the chance to get Allan and Gordon last season but the inept one went for Simonsen and Hutton instead. Really says it all about him and what kind of damage he has done to the club

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14 Aug 2015 00:28:22
Celtic have supposedly bid 275k plus a player on loan plus a young boy on a permanent deal who was on loan there last season according to reports. All told not exactly a massive sum. Are Celtic paying what hibs were after? It's never been how much dh88, it's always been who to. Hibs won't sell to a championship rival, simple as that.

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14 Aug 2015 08:20:41
For the first time on this forum you're as near to being right as you'll ever be, Dunderheed.

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13 Aug 2015 22:08:04
Although I really don't think we need scott allan I do think he is a decent player and would have been a decent signing, it was more of a signing to get one over on hibs rather than him being a big name coming to rangers.

We have plenty options in the midfield now with the two boys coming in from tottenham (both decent prospects according to boys on the spurs page) I think signing Eustace will add that bit of experience needed and see us through the season with no problems.

However, on losing Scott Allan especially to celtic I think it means we have to go out and make a big signing, someone like stevie may or a decent prospect at championship level who will bang in the goals. Obviously that someone has to be in our price range or on loan with the option to buy.

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13 Aug 2015 22:04:37
Why would allan join celtic to go back to the club he is trying to get out of till the end of the season, Nonsense.

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13 Aug 2015 20:19:14
Anyone know what's happening with Lewis MacLeod? Two games Brentford have played and he's not been near the team!

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13 Aug 2015 22:43:28
Still coming back from injury as far as I know

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13 Aug 2015 20:28:19
Listen lads dk told us what we want to hear an that's it.to many unspent promises from previous boards and looks like dk at it too.hate to say it boys but think we be mid table team if and when we get up cause we skint i'm afraid

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13 Aug 2015 21:10:05
Bollocks why pay over the odds for out of contract player and the main point davie is that hibs would not sell to us . Would you waste a million! Get real.

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13 Aug 2015 21:14:01
What do u base that on? The fact that we won't pay over the odds for a player in the last year of his contract

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14 Aug 2015 07:45:36
Pay over the odds . what 500k for a player with allan ability or are we going to sign a 35 year old has been for 2 years in eustace.sa with a 2 year contract is a player with a value well over a million.hibs are skint we go in with a bid just to unsettle the player if we want him we pay the rate and to tell u the truth he prob better than any player we got.dk playing mind games with every supporter.come buy season tickets we will pay whatever ut takes . lol ye right have we actually paid for any1.think we getting led up the garden path.if we don't get promoted this year rangers as a big club is gone cause fans won't buy into it abymore

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13 Aug 2015 17:32:00
still think he will sign for us. the one and only stumbling block which is a very shrewd piece of business is the loan back deal. but heh isn't it great being back in the hunt and being on the cusp of contention . if allen does head east then the championships a cakewalk imo. deecee

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13 Aug 2015 18:03:56
We are not in contention. We have no chance of competing for signings with celtic. Unless DK comes good with the promised investment

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13 Aug 2015 19:34:45
Dk is leading the fans on he doesn't have the dosh

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13 Aug 2015 19:38:00
Go onto the bbc website.it States that Allan is prepared to listen to an offer from them.makes sense because no way would they be interested in putting an offer in without first sounding Allan out.he has made a complete erse of himself.ho hum move on😁

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13 Aug 2015 19:09:38
once we are in the premier league money will be available deecee

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13 Aug 2015 23:00:29
Hi deecee. What money will be available? Who will provide it? Seeing as how the main source of income is season tickets and we have fallen approx 10 thousand short of our target of 45 thousand where will the funds come from to finance us to the end of the season?

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13 Aug 2015 17:10:11
10 minutes past 5 pm

No mention from tv updates that SA is at ceptic park - that is just nasty rumours.

Only news is QOS sign Kyle Hutton

Rotherham may bid again for SA but only if he is open to offers!

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13 Aug 2015 17:36:37
hes not at sceptics midden the clubs are still negotiating but with allan saying he would join sceptic its only a matter of time

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13 Aug 2015 19:59:44
Allan needs to step back and truly ask himself as a rangers fan could he really enjoy playing and give 110 percent for them. Personally I really couldn't do it no matter the money.

If he does clearly money has talked and probably more importantly his agent wanting a bigger pay day has twisted the arm.

Fingers crossed he is bigger than that.

If not so what we move on and enjoy winning the championship anyway.

The people

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13 Aug 2015 21:31:29
Would you say Judas Johnson gave 100% when he played for you or if miller gave 100% to both clubs , grow up when these guys are young they spend every sat and Sunday Playing football not going to games , they are professional players and give 100% to whoever they play for , what about king Kenny do you think he gave 100% playing in the hoops? Despite him and his family being big rangers fans .

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13 Aug 2015 23:01:27
Mo Johnstone ran himself into the ground every single game he played for us! Absolutely brilliant professional and top player. I will be surprised if Allan signs for Celtic, I don't think he's good enoughcompared to Armstrong and johansen.

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13 Aug 2015 15:15:33
I smell manager involvement in this whole Scott Allan farce, but surely nobody could possibly think that we could have another ex old boy earning a few quid by a player signing for their previous club.
But let's be realistic this lad is not exactly a Ronaldo so let's just move on and accept whatever outcome is.

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13 Aug 2015 17:15:40
Well it was stated that Dundee Utd manager got a few quid for two players going to ceptic, and ceptic is involved again?

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13 Aug 2015 17:51:36
Maybe it's just a paper story the amount a paranoia about this is unreal my fellow fans need to get a grip!the boy will go where ever he thinks is best for him if we miss out hay ho we move on!we should all just have the negative attitude of Mvg he just shoots everyone down when he's mentioned seems to be well in the know!or kids on he's in the know better off sticking to darts

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13 Aug 2015 20:08:53
Rangers didn't make a realistic offer for Scott Allan. FACT

He is desperate to get away from Hibs. FACT

It was obvious that the manky mob were going to come in with an offer. FACT

Since the news of the manky mob being interested today, no further offer has been forthcoming from Rangers. FACT

SA would prefer to come to Rangers, but until they make an acceptable bid it is not going to happen. We cannot make an acceptable bid because we cannot afford it. FACT

SA has to think of his own career, and if he thinks that his career will progress by joining them then that's up to him.
Personally, I think it is the wrong move for him, as he will not be a regular in their team. That's his choice.
If he cannot wait for a few months to sign a pre-contract with us, then fine, that's his choice. He can't care for us that much then.

It was always going to end this way unfortunately.

Let's forget about SA and get on with supporting the group of players we have, who all seem to have a desire to play for the club.

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13 Aug 2015 22:22:32
MVG. How can you say Rangers never made a realistic bid for Scott Allen? £250K for a championship player that can be signed for zilch on a pre-contract in Jan.Think of a Scottish prem player sold to a close at the time rival for the same dosh under the same circs, who,one Gary Mackay-Steven. Only difference, the cosy "relationship" between the clubs involved.

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14 Aug 2015 08:42:10
Well obviously it wasn't realistic as it got rejected didn't it.
It was a pitiful bid which Rangers knew would be rejected. It was not a serious bid because we have no money. The bid was only made because the Rangers board knew that the fans wanted and expected Scott Allan on board.
I'm afraid Mr King and the board are not going to be shelling out money on players. They are depending on the fans to put their hands in their pockets and unfortunately the season ticket sales are about 10,000 short of what they were looking for.
As it stands I think we have a squad good enough to win the league anyway as long as we don't have many injuries.
Can only hope that some money is there to improve the squad by the time we get promoted.
Let's just put the Scott Allan thing behind us. He obviously doesn't love the club as much as we thought so good riddance to him.
Always said he would never sign for us.
Let's get behind the players we have who so far all seem to be committed to the club.
Onwards and upwards.

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13 Aug 2015 15:04:50
Scott allen might not go to septic if he does he will never be able to play for rangers his boyhood club and a think halliday is playing a big part on him wanting to join rangers good friends he will be a bear let's all calm down guys

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13 Aug 2015 15:45:44
Wake up.
He is not coming to Rangers.
Will be joining the manky mob.

Don't think it will be good for his career, but that's up to him.
Can't be that much of a Rangers man if he can't stay put till January.

Forget him.

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13 Aug 2015 17:39:19
Ladbrokes have him 4/7 on to join the soap dodgers.bookies are very rarely wrong.

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13 Aug 2015 20:28:02
Why would Celtic even want him?

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13 Aug 2015 14:50:23
Rotherham to bid for sa sky sports transfer centre

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13 Aug 2015 14:39:47
let the lad go to celtic. one man doesn't make a team and its a team game. my take is that we are solely to blame and should've offered the going rate for a decent holding midfielder and that certainly is NOT 270. 000 quid.
he will regret his decision when malmo pump them and then just like last year no euro after December.
look at the bigger picture son as we are back next year and if and its a big IF we win the Scottish cup we are back in Europe if i'm correct. ( we have 3 years books I feel). remember scott. what goes around and the gers are in your heart. deecee

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13 Aug 2015 15:09:15
but 250k for McKay Stevens a recognised premier player with 1 international cap (albeit for a few mins) is a going rate?

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13 Aug 2015 15:09:34
I am sure Dave King will not allow SA move to celtic. I am sure he will step in and match any offer from Celtic and SA will choose us over them.

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13 Aug 2015 15:28:43
Ffs Really? We will be crap in Europe and next year despite all your recent problems you will give him European football but it will be better than ours and will last after Decembers? Is that what your saying mate?


Pass the sour grapes.

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13 Aug 2015 15:43:28
Hahaha ABHABH u really do live in fantasy land pal! U will match what we will offer! Mate Uve had 3 bids that havnt even made it over 300 grand! Use won't got to the money hibs want because u don't have it! And for what it's worth I don't want him at us! Because he ain't good enough! Simple as that!

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13 Aug 2015 16:36:14
FEBRUARY 19th and 26th 2015 (you know, after December) Celtic played Inter Milan, let's hope for Rangers sake deecee that what you feel is more accurate than what you know. Better luck next time. :)

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13 Aug 2015 17:21:27
ok gaz ill give you those 2 games . let's see how things work out this time round.normally isupport Scottish teams in Europe . but not after Collins stupid remarks. can't even beat killie.

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13 Aug 2015 17:50:52
Really deecee in the history of all things old firm John Collins remarks was the thing that turned you into a Malmo fan next week, wow, we do get easily offended these days, don't we. I don't believe you for a second by the way. There's no shame in it, just say it as it is but that was the straw that broke the camels back for you, wow!

I don't want you to do well in Europe either but I'm selfish, why have your main rival richer or stronger through European progression? I don't dress it up as some mock offended crap, but equally I'm not daft and know I'm coming from supporting the team that WILL be seeded for the foreseeable future given our recent European efforts, you on the other hand, I would think, need every Scottish favour going but Rangers and seeing the bigger picture, it will never catch on, will it?

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13 Aug 2015 18:23:09
Dh88 that was sarcasm on my part. I am well aware that we were never going to be able to afford SA. The derisory bids were a desperate attempt by DK to sell season tickets.

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13 Aug 2015 18:44:15
spending a lot of time on here gaz. paranoid maybe that we are on the way back. and there's as much chance of you lot beating malmo a Collins stopping talking through his nose. know what a bean.

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13 Aug 2015 19:25:26
Sorry bud,thought u were being serious! To be honest I really don't understand why we're pursuing the player! It's a strange one! Still think the boy will end up with use! He's made no secret he wants to join u! And in January u'll get him for cut price or a pre contract! I wouldn't be so sure he's off to us! As for DK! Still think use should be wary of the guy! Lot of shooting his mouth off about overspending,but then it's tryin to pay buttons for Allan!

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14 Aug 2015 01:16:39
deecee how many times can you be wrong in one day? Can I get your lottery numbers for the weekend so I can perm the other 43? First of your genius line "spending a lot of time on here" it's actually my first in about 2 weeks, I made myself a promise not to write till some nugget was inaccurate about Celtic, that's where you come in with your ever so wrong statement about December, third wrong is still on me spending time in here, I'm pretty sure I've been on this site longer than you regardless of who I support. Fourth (like I said you've had some day of it) do you still think "Allan will sign for us"? Oh and the word you were looking for I presume was mean not bean. That's five in four hours deecee maybe football knowledge isn't your thing. So on the back of this I am now in better spirits about Malmo because if you tip them we must surely have a good chance, thanks deecee made me smile more than a few times today. :)

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13 Aug 2015 13:25:42
I said all along that Scott Allan would not sign for Rangers.
Maybe if we had put in a realistic bid we might have had a chance.
At the end of the day money talks. Don't see him getting many games at Celtic though. Midfield is their strongest area.
Time to move on and forget about the guy. He's made his decision.

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13 Aug 2015 15:41:24
As I have asked before are u Scott Allan? How do you know his decision? Has a statement been made? Bid been made? Its all talk.

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13 Aug 2015 16:16:57
Aye his decision is he wants to be at us

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13 Aug 2015 17:39:13
he told the hibs board this morning he would go to septic if both clubs agree a fee

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13 Aug 2015 13:11:55
Scott Allan is a proper Blue Nose from Glasgow not the watered down type like Mad Broonie.

Scott Allan grew up a mile from Ibrox and has supported them man and boy.

Scott Allan is desperate to join his beloved club and join his best pal Andy Halliday.

Scott Allan will be so angry if Stubbed offers him to ceptic.

Scott Allan will now force his way out of Hibs and join Ibrox.

If the twitter news is correct and ceptic have been offered Scott Allan then it is true what we have all thought, this is nothing to do with football but everything to do with bigotry and sectarianism.

Think for a minute if Scott Allan went to ceptic and hibs won their league is Scott Allan then not a direct threat to hibs as he would be if he joined RFC. Are hibs not just as weakened now if they lose him to ceptic.

I think now Scott Allan will go public about his intention to join RFC and make know his gentleman's agreement and written transfer request.

I am so angry with hibs infantile games about the ones that are suffering, when it is their intransigence towards Scott Allan, the hibs players and the hibs fans. If he wants to go to RFC then let him go and move on.

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13 Aug 2015 13:51:09
It's nothin to do with bigotry mate!they don't want to sell to a rival plus we ain't put in a decent bid to tempt hibs think u need to calm down!if he signs for Celtic then so be it let the boy get on with his career!

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13 Aug 2015 14:02:56
'If the twitter news is correct and ceptic have been offered Scott Allan then it is true what we have all thought, this is nothing to do with football but everything to do with bigotry and sectarianism.'

WTF? What this has to do with sectarianism is beyond me.

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13 Aug 2015 14:05:41
What a load of tosh. Hibs and Rangers are both in the same league and both are desperate to win to get up and live a more financially stable and exciting existence. Selling Allan to Rangers makes no sense this season for Hibs it's as simple as that. It would weaken their team and championship ambitions and would loose them more money than Rangers would pay as their fans would vote with their feet. There is nothing infantile about this on Hibs side of the coin as they are in a no win siutuation as far as selling him to Rangers goes. If Celtic want him, and it's a big if as in my mind this is just cheap media crap, then they can afford to buy him and afford to pay him well and give him European football. It's the year 2015, it's not all about who you supported as a boy anymore for the majority of the sensible population.

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13 Aug 2015 13:03:39
If scott allan is as blue as he says then the response from the interest from that mob is simple. NO THANKS. Nacho Novo style

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13 Aug 2015 12:53:31
This is an interesting situation that Scott finds himself in, wait it out for 10 months and sign for the club you love, or go to their biggest rivals, and never play a moment of first team football, which let's face It he won't. Celtic have many better Midfielders than scott currently. He can go to them if he wants though, would show how much of a money grabber the kid is, or he can wait and come to us and show there is loyalty in football.

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13 Aug 2015 13:11:16
R u for real? He would walk right into celtics team WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT, he played at a better level than most of the midfielders Celtic have brought in of late, far better player than rogic, more mobile than biton, more technec and better all round play than brown and Johnson, the only reason y Celtic haven't went for him until now, is that he's a Rangers man through and through, and if he's a Rangers man through and through, the only time he'll b at parkhead, is when he's there with the away team! Dig your heels in Scotty boy just like Stubbs is doing to u, they can except 3m for all they care, it's up to the player where he's going, this should b a classic case of what Stubbs did to me I'll b doing to him!! WATP

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13 Aug 2015 13:11:40
As a Rangers fan I have to disagree on one thing, that would be that Scott Allan would not rot on the bench he would break into that team within a year, that my opinion!

Now he can leave and get Hibs a fee and I'm sure Stubbs would be comfortable with that for many of reasons!

If he sticks it out, with Hibs and signs for Rangers pre-contract, then he is destined to get a lucrative personal contract for sure!

Best thing he can do, if he is a Rangers man is stick it out with Hibs and sign when Rangers will be back where they belong!

Trust me when Rangers go back up to the SPL, the hype alone, will put Celtic in the shadows! Exciting times!

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13 Aug 2015 13:30:48
What if he decides to reject Celtic waiting for his 'dream ' move and tears his ligaments next week in training? Will rangers show him loyalty then?

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13 Aug 2015 13:37:35
OP Do you really think SA would never get a game for a team that drew with Killie last night?

I do still hope that the boy comes to Rangers but won't be calling him a money grabber if he doesnt. The board made derisory offers for him hoping at best to get him on a free contract come the next transfer window. Dangerous game to play and now looks like it could backfire, especially if Celtic were to loan him out to Hibs.

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13 Aug 2015 12:42:00
If sa signs for celtic I for 1 will be turning my back on rangers as I can't see how we can sign people on loan as there must be fees for thm but can't sign a player permanently who in years 2 come would have a sell on value. Dk is just after is 20million back

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13 Aug 2015 13:32:34
Is that his master plan? to take 20million from rangers? Which will never happen, he wants to make rangers a self sufficient club, There isn't much money to take from a club like that. have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe there are still rangers men out there? do you think Dave kind sits there with a list of players he wants? or do you think that Warburton has a list of players he wants? Warburton has already stated it is him who decides which players rangers go for, and he decides their value.

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13 Aug 2015 13:35:04
Think you should get a grip. If he goes to celtic then good luck to him as it says more about him than it does us.

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13 Aug 2015 12:21:08
Hope Scott Allan doesn't get stick if he decides to sign for Celtic, it is his career after all. Looks a good player and might command a pretty fee in a few years? Would of been nice signing instead of Hutton haha hindsight is a great thing!
In my opinion a little petty on hibs/Stubbs behalf but not to worry.

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13 Aug 2015 12:40:22
From a purely professional standpoint its a no brainer, he has to join Celtic.His agent will advise him to as well I reckon.

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13 Aug 2015 12:50:36
Actually gkk, from a professional point it is nothing short of foolish, he'll never get first team football, if he wants to find a comfy seat on the bench then go for it.

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13 Aug 2015 12:17:46
There is no doubt in my mind that Scott Allan will jump at the chance to join Celtic, he likes to be in the headlines and if he joined them after stating he supports us well it will be huge news imo

Scott Allan will NOT turn down Celtic but when he does join them where does he fit in?

They have rogic, johansen, brown, biton, Armstrong, commons, Henderson all in midfield it's another petty attempt by the Celtic board to win over fans

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13 Aug 2015 12:10:46
Obviously I hope we sign Scott Allan at some point but a small part of me hopes they sell to Celtic and they loan him back (as some rumours seem to be) as it would perfectly exemplify the pettiness and pathetic nature of scottish football towards Rangers. Don't get me wrong, totally understand hibs not selling to us now (I'd probably do the same) but it would show Celtic willing to spend 500k+ on a player that even their own fans would say doesn't improve their squad, and at 23 coming up 24 he's not exactly the youngest player and to loan him back to hibs would just show how petty the two clubs are towards us. Now i'm not usually the "it's all about the Rangers" type when it comes to things like this but such a transfer would be hard to describe differently!

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13 Aug 2015 12:55:52
why is selling SA to us different than selling Colin Stein, Kevin Thomson, Ian Murray to us before and Scott Brown to the Cheltic?

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13 Aug 2015 11:39:49
Ssn reporting now that Celtic in
Talks with hibs over Scott Allen! Let's hope not!

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13 Aug 2015 08:39:56
There seems to be a bit of confusion as to where Dominic balls actually plays. Is he a defender or Defensive midfielder? This is an extract from Metro:

Defensive midfielder Ball, meanwhile, spent last campaign on loan at Cambridge, and he has also been sent to Rangers by Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino.
Ball, who can also play centre-back, confirmed the move to the Scottish Championship side on his Twitter profile.

So has the Eustace deal crashed out?

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{Ed001's Note - according to scouting sites, he is a centre back who can also play right back or defensive midfield.}

13 Aug 2015 10:18:11
yeah I've read the same Ed. I assume there has been no new news on the Eustace deal? Haven't heard anything on this for a few weeks now.

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{Ed001's Note - not a thing mate, I assume this is an instead signing.}

13 Aug 2015 08:33:51
Potential team for the weekend:
GK: Fod
RB: Tavern
CB: Kiernan
CB: Wilson
LB: Wallace
RM: McKay
CM: Halliday
CM: Shiels
CM: Law
LM: Oduwa
ST: Waghorn

Bench:Kelly/Ball/Holt/Walsh/Miller/ Clark

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13 Aug 2015 08:53:30
No Templeton in the squad?

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13 Aug 2015 08:56:36
Oduwa straight into the team? Ahead of players who have been playing well?

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13 Aug 2015 09:35:32
Walsh for Shiels and Miller for Oduwa. I don't think these new loan signings should go straight into the team. As Ballochbule said, why no Templeton in the squad? Tempting too to play Holt from the start.

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13 Aug 2015 10:25:03
I'll be honest I didn't select Temps as he has historical ligament damage to both his knee and ankles. The artificial pitches take a heavy toll on your knees from what I've heard. Who knows ay! At the end of the day Oduwa has been playing the the spurs 1st team over the summer. They would not have loaned us him unless we had guaranteed 1st team footie.

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13 Aug 2015 11:20:36
Fod
Tavern kiernan wilson wallace
Shiels holt halliday
Waghorn Clark mckay

Templeton Walsh and Miller in bench.

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12 Aug 2015 21:53:14
Hope Warburton notices Mark O'hara from killie against Celtic tonight he looked different class from any other player in his team, gets the ball at the back and is comfortable moving forward with it, doesn't waste a pass and does his defensive side really well too!

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13 Aug 2015 06:33:53
Celtic will probably go for him as they go for the good opposing players less of a challenge then.

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13 Aug 2015 11:21:32
Said that in the summer and everybody said we should aim higher than killie lol!

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13 Aug 2015 12:59:15
Not that I am suggesting that the girobhoys are petty but could they be doing a Darius Adamczuk on us?
Buy him lend back and sell in a season or so?

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12 Aug 2015 19:54:04
Hate even looking at septic tops let a loan type about them, but a heard a wee rumour today, apparently they played an eligible player in one of there European Qualifying games? Probably a lot of rubbish, and the name I'm hearing is Forrest, apparently he was a meant to be banned! Just wanted to know if anybody else heard this.cheers

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13 Aug 2015 07:46:07
Ineligible players you sound like one of them, we are better than that

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13 Aug 2015 09:44:25
Well said, gary75.

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