Rangers Banter Archive July 14 2012

14 Jul 2012 22:51:50
First of all I`m a CELTIC fan, I think it is time we all calmed down and started to think about football. It`s not the Rangers fans, Mr McCoist or Mr Greens fault that Rangers are where they are now, Point the finger firmly at the very quiet Sir David Murry and Craig Whyte. Thats all in the past. For me Mr Green has stepped in when nobody else would, he has stood by the club and has rejected a couple of offers from guys who were not prepaired to bail you club out at the start ( Mr Smith and Bomber Brown) That tells me Mr Green is in it for the long haul ohh and I reall admire Mr McCoist for not walking away under pressure.
For me Rangers should not recieve any further punishment and I think it is right that they start in Division 3, its what the club and the fans wanted however the SFA and SPL are looking for self preservation, they only think of money and sponsership, only the SPL will be worse off without Rangers! think about it..............My brother in law plays for the only 3rd Div team that can accomodate Rangers and thats Queens Park, think of how much money the 3rd Division teams can earn next season with Rangers in the league??, 2nd Division next year, 1st division the year after then its the SPL again, so only the SPL suffer for a few years. Reagan and Doncaster must resign or be forced out, If this SPL2 crap goes ahead then scottish football will be a laughing stock, it should have been thought of and discussed years ago and not a kneejerk reaction because of the Rangers situation, they have tried to bribe the lower leagues and failed. Lets just now get on with football, Rangers will be back(with the great supporters) and the rest will take care of itself. Looking forward to the next Old Firm game( if I can call it that) Remember Murray and Whyte at fault, dont blame the rest of Scottish Football and support your team and help others prosper.

Spot on. My Celtic supporting mates are saying the same thing. I'm looking forward to the trips to Peterhead and Elgin, got relations up there. A few weekends away from the wife.

Totally agree mate you have looked beyond the spite, hatred and anti rangers feeling in this country Thanks Its good to know there are sensible Celtic fans out there

14 Jul 2012 21:45:16
has rangers paid all there footballing debts yet, if not they should not be allowed to play anywhere......b

It has been widely reported that the money for old Rangers that was to be paid for second place last year is being held back and will be used to pay any outstanding football dates to Scottish clubs at least.

That one is coming Monday, SFA will make it a condition of membership.

14 Jul 2012 20:47:18
do yous realise that the newco isnt even eligble to play in the scottish cup even though the rfa,sorry sfa have included yous anyway.read the rules

That's the problem they are making up the rules as they go along. Bring on the 3rd and a new start. As for Dundee Uniteds earlier statement I hope Dundee go up and put them in their place, also rans with no ambition only trying to keep the Gers down! We will be back!

14 Jul 2012 20:33:54
so now rangers are finally fu ck ed , will you now finally admit celtic are a bigger and more successful club and always will be {Ed039's Note - Why would I do that, even with titles stripped a defunct Rangers would still technically be more successful than Celtic, so back to your Buckie pal)

You need to explain your reasoning a bit more mate.
Either that or i have to agree with Ed. Perhaps you should lay off the buckie.
Has your team won 50 titles yet? No..
Even if you manage to do that,you still got another four to go,just to draw level.
Sober up pal.
P,O,B,

Difference between rangers and Celtic right now fandango is simply this! You ate stuck in a stagnant league thats finances are about to dry up, sponsorship about to abandon, playing the same teams that will be watered down versions of themselves from last season, high operating costs and ofcourse the league sown up by Christmas. In short your starved of everything but you do have integrity to keep you warm on the cold winter nights. Rangers will enjoy low operating costs, a new beginning/new dawn, climbing the leagues while we watch the majority of SPL teams but expelled to the third div behind us. We are at the bottom of the mountain about to start climbing, the adventure is ahead of us as yours has finished with nowhere to go. Irony is by the time we get back to the SPL, we probably be playing again present first division clubs (where the powers that be presently wanted us) that have had to take the places of defunk present SPL teams.

Oh and tell me when did ANY incarnation of rankers win the european cup, get to a european cup final, or win every competion entered into in one year or for that matter win ANY competition fairly in the last 14 years?? WATP = we all talk pish

2) You are, indeed, deluded. And everything you say in the first part of your post is Sevcos future too.
1. Your finances will dry up, unless you really are stupid enough to believe Green is your bankrolling superdaddy. Remember, no one has pledged a penny to you, sevco have loaned it, to be repaid during your fight to top flight again. Ain't going to be easy, is it?
2. Div 3 is swimming in cash, funds and finances is it? God wish we had been sent there!
3. Don't your fans believe you will have Div 3 sewn up by Christmas?
4.Sponsors etc? Once the freak value of following Sevco in Div 3 dries up, do you really think sponsors and the media will pay a seconds attention to you? Indeed, are sponsors not packing up their advertising posters and walking away from you right now, almost as fast as your pre season opponents are cancelling your fixtures? If you really are the people, and your former club was such massive institution, why do clubs, both UK and overseas, feel playing you pre season would be too reputationaly damaging? Never clever to be seen to fratenise with cheats.
Only time will tell, but your desire, indeed craving, to see 9 innocent current SPL teams, along with Kilmarnock, St Mirren and club 12 go to the wall will, I'm sure, will prove to be far from the mark. Infact, I think a very good bet for the next club to follow Rangers in to administration is Sevco, but would any bookie offer odds worth taking the punt?

14 Jul 2012 19:53:44
just seen sky sports news ,waoow super crowd of just over 10,000 at dundee derby ,how long will that last ? also dundee utd will vote against admission of gers into a spl2 if the powers to be try that,they seem to have their knife really into gers which wont be forgotten by a lot of our supporters doug t.s.o

They won't get the chance to vote Doug. How can they vote for or against something that does not exist at present? They will be "Invited" to join the new league set up along with everybody else.

Wrong again dug! United released a statement saying they don't want sevco back into the top flite and are against an spl 2...try again.

Briggs

Ps dundee population 100000, attendance 10000.. glasgow population 1m+, joint OF home fattendances 100000... SEEM LIKE WE'RE ATTRACTING THE SAME RATIO AS UR THE OLD FIRM!

We've got.our knife out? hows that? 2 days ago you lot were saying we were the ones trying to manuerve ur team into sfl1/spl2 for our own financial benefit. Utd have set our stall out and stuck by it..thats something to be admired!

Get facts right dundee utd were owed money from last season so where did the big rangers away support benifit them and also celtic owed money , but have not claimed hearts owed money for wallace thats why teams have the knifes out for rangers

Celtic supporter hear yes same ratio for 1 game , get real now . old firm game would be double the 100000 if any stadiums we big enough, best game in the world .......... good luck rangers come back soon will miss the only game to ever get me excited about football

@6 - celtic fans should steer clear of maths and logic. united home support is on average 6.5k from a population of 100000. Celtic get average of 47000 from population of 1m+ and how many of ur fans aint local. this.myth about glasgow teams being better supported if a myth. I'd be willing to bet that teams are pretty much supported equally,regardless of location - factoring out the glory hunters that is. at least, we'll get 3 or 4 years ofimpressionable youngsters selecting to follow their local teams rather than rAngers

14 Jul 2012 20:21:24
time to move on guys the dession has been made Div 3 is where we will be its out of our hands now lets just sit back and say no more and just sit and let the rest blame each other if they have cocked up with where we should have been, we are where we all wanted to be for the so called SPORTING INTEGRETY rule, as long as we all stick together we will get back in the spl with hard work and togetherness.

14 Jul 2012 20:08:21
There seems to be this overwhelming desire to blame SFL clubs for financial problems that may now smother scottish football clubs in particular some in the SPL.
These are the same chairman that allowed hatred from their own fans to ensure we were voted out of the SPL in the hope they could be seen to do the right thing yet still be guaranteed cash.
Sporting integrity was the big call and we will all support each other, just over 24hours in the SFL Div 3 and already two clubs are concerned about their finances.
Stupid comments posted by Celtic supporters saying they are happy to pay extra to support these clubs, REALLY!
When will they all admit the truth, they cannot survive without Rangers, it's that simple.

Would I want Rangers back in the SPL now, no, we deserved to be punished we accepted our punishment and are ready to move on. No one will ever be able to say it was fixed to allow you back now.

Sort out your own mess.

14 Jul 2012 19:26:32
NEWCONEWS ,
Ive posted numerous rumours on here regarding whyte , withey , etc , So I would just like to post that ibrox is owned by Octopus/Ticketus this will break in the next 24 hours, Green only owes murray park 2.4m out of the 5.5m was for players contracts etc.... AS

14 Jul 2012 18:47:45
They were warned , all SPL clubs were warned. But they wanted to pass the buck and hoped SFL would bail them out by putting us in div one. But you backed them into a corner so they have done what you wanted "sporting integrity".

Now already ICT and St.Mirren are already talking about admin. Kilmarnock will be next. That is after one day, just
think where we will be after four years.

I have posted many times on here that this tit for tat, schoolboy rubbish would see the game suffer severely. And so that is where we are right now.

The problem is that if you ask fans to vote, as most clubs did, that these fans will base their decision on their hatred for the opposing team. We would no doubt do the same. But we are a small country and had two big teams that are responsible for 85% of the total income, and one goes, the whole game has a problem. Make no mistake the chairmen of the SPL clubs would have voted us in, but as season tickets were due and the threats from their own fans put the in an impossible situation. So they made their decision, in the hope that they could cope with a year without us, try four years.

Good on the SFL I say, you were put in a ridiculous situation, by the cowardice of SPL chairmen. So you have made your bed, now lie in it. Please don't think that I am happy at the thought of others suffering for the sins of Murray & Whyte, I don't want to see anybody in Scottish football suffering, it is not very good, but it's what we have. All I am saying is that the bottom line is that the Scottish game cannot afford to lose one of the big two. Common sense should have prevailed.

Sure punish us if it makes you feel good, have a kick at the most successful clubs, but don't be stupid.

I would not be at all surprised if the SPL meeting on Monday back tracks completely and would not be surprised if they vote again. Still don't think we would get eight in favour but reckon that it may be 7-5 as we speak, but that is after one day, that may change when the realisation sinks in. I may be totally wrong and if it happens then if you think we are a laughing stock now, just wait.

I would like to hear the chairmens explanation of "sporting integrity" then.

It may not be right, it may not be fair, it would send the wrong message to any club doing the same thing, but it would be sensible. We are too small a country to withstand this, and football is going to suffer a "slow lingering death".

In yer dreams. Football in Scotland will
hopefully become a level playing field for all. KL

Lets get real here, the big club you are talking about is to be liquidated as it owed millions. Therefore Glasgow Rangers FC cannot play in the league. You have been lucky enough that Green has bought the assets and intends to recreate that club. He has ploughed in money to buy the stadium, training ground and car park (lets ignore the money for the players). The new club that Green is building should enter at Div3 as they are a new club!

If you and i started a club tomorrow could we apply to join SPL in rangers place? Could we enter at Div1?

I personally think Rangers will be missed by Scottish football, however Green has made sure it's only for minimum 3 years rather than forever!

Sevco may never be rangers and you may have to put up with jokes forever from funnier men than me. But, unlike Third Lanark, you will have a club to go see next season!

Incidentally being allowed access to Div3 is not a punishment, it is just the way it goes. Your club is a new company and like most new companies they must start at the bottom.

DazzaBhoy

Listen sore boy whoever else will go into admin will get my sympathy , but you lot get everything you deserve , by the way i am a motherwell fan who dont like celtic ,but rangers to me commited the worst crime against football and deserve everyrhing that goes their way {Ed039's Note - Motherwell have always been outstanding with their finances as well havent they)

Dazza ,

You have chosen not to read what I said, it would not be right, I said that, but if everyone suffers, as they will do, is that rightof course not, but this is not Italy or Spain or England where if a big team went there are others to make the loss. Juve got demoted but the tv deal still was there because inter, AC, Lazio, etc were there. We have two teams, if one goes we now have one. Every week on sky it is either Rangers or Celtic, whoever is away from home, what do they show now every second week?

Last year figures for St Johnstone v St Mirren was 674. Do you think sky will think that's ok?

Common sense Dazza

3) crime against football my arse, whyte didn't pay NI and paye. That's it.
HMRC aren't coming after newco for sins of old co and they were the affected party, and yet Scottish football think they are above rules that everybody else lives by. Hatred and bloodlust of idiots like you have caused this nonsense , well enjoy the results, with half the teams bust by Christmas.

In reply to the first post where is the proof Green owns Ibrox? I heard it was Ticket Us?

OP/4) I did read your original post, however you seem to loose it on your second post. That post makes no sense!

You are lucky you have any club to follow, Whyte and Murray stuffed your team. RFC are no more....RFC have/will be liquidated. Green has bought the assets of RFC and intends to use the assets to make a new club. This new club will attempt to recreate your infamous glasgow rangers.

Sevco aint RFC, however as i said earlier they are a new club and have to start in Div3!

We can discuss Italy, France or Spain all night, but we play in Scotland. Celtic will be the only player in Scotland for the next 3/4/5 years and someone else will take RFC's position in the SPL, untill Sevco make it into SPL.

Why have you chosen to pick St Johnstone v St Mirren to make your point? Was that game played on a saturday afternoon or a tuesday night in december? Was it on Sky? Yesterday 10,000 fans watched a friendly, is that because it was a derby, not on TV or because supporters are coming back to games now there is fair competition?

Sky TV are smart enough to pull out if they believe they aint gonna make money. So why do you think they have stated they will stay with SPL? Sky are making a killing from Scottish football, they know and you do too.

Be thankful you have a team to follow, rather than making out the whole of Scottish football is against you! If Ayr Utd or Stranrear were in this position would anyone try to save them, would they get back into the league they left?

DazzaBhoy

Another one that denies Rangers are no more and yet you are happy that newco is punished for old co sins. HMRC the organisation that suffered most financially are not and cannot come after newco and yet Scottish football do. There is no question that all the clubs need their fans to renew tickets and these fans threatened to boycott their own team for the desire to get rid of us. If you don't see that you are crazy. I think the fact that you are constantly on a Rangers site shows that. I have never even looked at the Celtic page because I don't care about them or anything they have to say, clearly you are obsessed with us.
Incidentally Sky said they would stand by if Rangers were out for a year, there is not a chance that they will renew. They are not interested in Scottish football, they are interested in Rangers and Celtic. They won't make a killing with no bugger watching it, be sensible.
They even wanted to show Rangers games in div one, that's why they would stand by it, no other reason.
The problem is that rival fans have backed their clubs into a corner and SPL clubs thought that SFL would bend over and put Rangers into div one, they bottled the hard decision and put it onto somebody else. They are cowards that's all. You will have read that St Mirren have described the decision as catastrophic. The SFL clubs refused for sporting integrity the same reason as SPL quoted. And now SFL clubs are being critised by SPL clubs. They wanted our money and sky money but didn't want to be seen by their own fans for voting yes.
Sporting integrity my arse, the SPL chairmen could not even spell it.

14 Jul 2012 18:03:46
Surely after being relegated to the third division we can't get any more sanctions? Also I would rather be in div 3 so teams can't say we got away with what we did. I don't see the point of putting us in "spl2" if we get more sanctions as we wouldn't be competitive at all. Go to every game for the next three years and as soon as we play spl teams boycott them. The attitude of some fans from other teams have been disgraceful!

14 Jul 2012 17:51:09
Stewart gilmore the st mirren chairman says he hopes the sfl chairmen relise what they have done. Having your cake and eating it springs to mind!

I think his statement is the most unbelievable thing I have read. What a cheek, he made the decision on "sporting integrity" grounds, as he stated clearly, and yet he is having a go at SFL for doing the same, because they could cope with a year without us, but now they have four years.
He accuses them of a decision which will have catastrophic consequences.
Totally unbelievable and would suggest that he does not have a go at SFL because as sure as night follows day, that's where his club will be very shortly.

Gilmour should realise what he and the rest have done with their vote, then passing the buck to the sfl ,they must think we are all thick ,i wouldnt like him running my business for me doug t.s.o

14 Jul 2012 17:46:27
i think for the benifit of us rangers fans we should demand from mr green that wee see the title deeds for all the assets then we should buy our tickets if everying is above board not throw our money to another conman again we want proof

John,have we not been through that with you already? give it up.

13 Jul 2012 23:53:00
Well done being accepted into div 3 as that is what most gers fans wanted.
Now rumours are going about regards spl2 and 'Rangers ' being invited into this.
Ed am i not right in saying any club leaving sfl must give 2years notice.

din22 {Ed039's Note - I am pretty sure that is correct, but if everything was done by the book then Rangers would have been sent directly to SFL 3 and this would have been sorted a good while ago)

Correct Ed, everything that has been done is against the book. First on liquidation to allow Rangers into SPL.... Shameless.
Secondly an election for straight promotion of a Newco to SFL1? ......scurrilous!
Warty Smith complaining about SFA is the biggest confusion sowing smokescreen ever. Filthy dirty people. Not an honest man amongst them. They were raised in that culture and are a reflection of dishonesty.

14 Jul 2012 15:28:18
This transfer embargo is absolutely preposterous!

Nearly every non-Rangers fan is telling me that Rangers are dead and the new pheonix Rangers is a different club, has no history, and no trophies.

Well IF that is the case THEN how can it POSSIBLY be fair that we get punished for the wrongdoings of another club??

Either we are Rangers - or we are not Rangers. But you can't have it both ways!

14 Jul 2012 15:00:58
Rangers did this themselves, last nighht i again had a discussion with a Rangers supporting mate who had the attitude. I hope a few more teas go now..... I really dont understand this,RANGERS did this themselves no-one else asked for this. They were voted into div3 as thats where all new entrants into the league go, they were only ever discussions to put them in div1 due to money. He started saying what about Motherwell, dundee etc. these clubs NEVER liquidated . WHY DOES NOONE understand this. Rangers have not been punished you cant trade on the name of the old club as it no longer exists. New clubs start at bottom and thats the end of it, now stop all the nonsense.

Caintona.

Completely agree. Regan should have told Green that only an application to the 3rd division would be considered.

14 Jul 2012 10:46:27
My son is a psychology student and has been enthralled by the Rangers saga.
Acouple of weeks ago Charles Green did not have a single friend very few were buying season tickets and he was a pariah.
The mood has changed 180 degrees.
Green may well have a new PR adviser but he ie is the same man who lied and lied and lied tous.
He will not get a penny of my money he was banking on Rangers fans being mugs and could be proved right.
We have the opportunity to force him out,it may mean 2 years in SFL3 but that would be in the best for the long term interests of our club.
Stand united for Rangers no money to Green.

What has your son being a psychology student got to do with Rangers NUMPTY. Bottom line is Mr Green whatever you may think or anyone else that matters and you have your opinion for what its worth put his hand in his pockets and bought Rangers unlike the Blue Knights John Brown, Walter Smith Bill Ning a ding ding etc etc so back off and give the man at least some credit for eating humble pie and at least being grateful that we are at least still playing football alas in the 3rd division. My glass is half full is yours ?? Lets get behind the famous Glasgow Rangers and follow follow we will follow Rangers ANYWHERE EVERY WHERE WE WILL FOLLOW ON !! Lee -_-

Yes great idea lets starve the club of funds and just dissapear forever .so your psons a psychology student what's that got to do with it .we have to start trusting someone and get behind the team .if you don't want to put your money into rangers keep it by all means that's your concern but don't try and put others off with your scare mungering

My daughter is a dentist just thought i would let you know but she is not a rangers fan but i am we have to get behind mr green he is the only show in town we have no time to change leaders we have a great chance here to pay for our crimes hold our head high climb back up to spl however long that takes with a young team we can use murray park to blood young players some can be sold to keep us going and when we do get back no one can point a finger so stop all this bitching get your season tickets bought and remember "we dont do walking away" or do we. ;;; cooperboy

Go buy a season ticket if u wish,, but when Green and co run off in next few months dont say you were,nt warned , by peopel with sons who are psycologists.... He is here for quick buck and then out thats all even he admits it, he has no love for Gers or whatever name we are to be called and will milk us dry all he can. Thats what he does,,, have u not understood this ? if not time to read up instead of slagging of things you dont understand.

Disagree totally with this rubbish.

And if this guy git his wish then it wouldn't be the likes of St Mirren or Caley that would be most vulnerable to going out of business. It would be us!
Barney Bear

Saw a guy on a bus who is a firefighter, does that count.

14 Jul 2012 12:15:55
"No way will Rangers (Newco) be playing in the 3rd division
next season." That was, allegedly, the quote from Mr Regan.

The reality is, if they are, they will more than likely go into administration. The only way to avoid this would be to have a quick succesful share issue to raise circa £2om? Will the SFA grant newco a license on that basis?

Bear in mind Mr Green's master plan relied upon:

1. gaining entry to the SPL.
2. obtaining transfer fees
3. succesful share issue-which is what it's really all about.

If Newco's annual overheads are £20m? even if 40,000 season tickets are sold at £200 per head- £8m (huge ask considering the support is split) plus £5 raised via tv money, sponsorships, sale of merchandise etc, plus an extra £2m gate money. Total £15m- loss of £5m! Unless I'm way out with the overhead figure. That's with a 13 man squad!

Interesting analysis i would only ask wherethe breakdown is on the 20 million as i dont know what you have set aside for players wages compared to currently as clearly the players wages costs are going to be significantly less than previously yet no doubt higher than current 3rd division clubs which again will be easily met under the Fair play legislation as Rangers proportionately will bring in far more than a standard div 3 club would therefore (harshly for other 3rd div teams) be able hopefully to play its way back up pretty quickly.

Bang on mate. I for one don't accept the disingenuous bulls**t from McCoist, Green and then Regan. Puke material.
Regan is getting paid by Rangers somewhere as is Doncaster, neither bad men are honestly neutral. Get them out the game.
If SPL2 happens, forget about Scottish football, it's over! But is that the plan? Bring Celtic, Motherwell, Dun Utd, Hearts, etc... Down with them?
SPL need to vote NO to an SPL 2 ridiculous proposition. {Ed039's Note - You think Rangers are paying Regan and Doncaster? Get a grip ffs, these 2 incompetent t***s are just trying to safeguard there own overinflated salaries and the Sky TV deal)

Bbc radio scotland caley thistle want rangers back in spl

£20m overhead figure is a guess. Based on previously running at a £10m loss, equalised by the players who have walked out? But season ticket sales £8m instead of £16m , when is SPL.

14 Jul 2012 08:38:11
Engaged in banter with a couple of Eastenders and was asked
"how many goals did Rangers score at Ibrox in the last 13 European games?"
Their answer was 5 or 1 every 4 hours. I know its not many but is 5 correct?

Don't know if that stat is correct or not but they have won only one of their last twenty five European games so it wouldn't be surprising.

Just looked up The Wee Red Book and sorry to say 5 goals is correct terrible stat.

14 Jul 2012 07:13:42
What a tragedy what shame and we
allowed it to happen. That must be
the words on every Rangers fans lips
this morning.

The cry was we do not walk away
but that is exactly what we have
done. The club was purchased by
an English carpetbagger with no
Rangers history. He has not seen fit
to name his backers. The sum paid
was in the region of £5 million a tiny
sum split between the army of Gers
fans throughout the world.

Some of those fans were in Manche-
ster a year or two ago. The 200,000
would have had expenses of £100
each on average, so thats £20 mil
on its own. If you get my drift and
add the other fans plus the wealthy
backers and all those so called real
fans where was the problem for
money to get the club out of trouble.

Who took the lead and who walked
away. Ally McCoist seemed to do
nothing. Sandy Jardine led a group
to Hampden to protest that they
would take sanctions against any
club who voted against them.

Walter Smith put his head above the
parapet for 24 or was it 48 hours
along with Scotlands richest man.
A couple of jokers from Paisly said
they would chip in £12mil and after
a day withdrew their help.

John Brown also rallied the fans for
a couple of days looking like a wally..
All this after months of prospective
buyers fought a brave fight from
Texas to Singapore trying to buy the
club for a song. Where were the
fans in all of this.

The answer was nowhere to be seen
basicaly because they are represen-
ted by people who are up to possibly
organising a few bus trips and not
much more.

The chance was missed for cometh
the day cometh the man. He did not
turn up. Therefore you are now in
with the Diddy Teams for three years
at least and you only need to look in
the mirror.

When your grandson asks you what
did you do when the Rangers were
down graded you can tell them you
watched from the sidelines.

Over the next three years many new
boys and girls will be choosing a club
to support. Who will they choose?

Slaver slaver slaver.We are fans not stupid rangers could never have been saved in their old form as there were to many people putting the boot in.When the dust settles we will get behind the team and put our money in.At the end of the day if we are so bad why are you so obsessed with us.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.....Let me guess you saved Celtic all those years ago didnt you?

Well isn't hindsight a wonderful thing. You sanctimonious fool.

Sporting integrity? Mirror? We'll see who is calling for sporting integrity when the SPL comes crashing down and the SFL potentially take over the reigns.

And dont give me that blarb about Celtic not needing Rangers, we are about to find out how much you do need us. Dwindling gate receipts, no TV money, £297,000 for winning a diddy league. No-one of any worth wanting to sign for you when there is no challenge it goes on and on.........GOODBYE

GDog
RTID

14 jul 2012 08:36:55
people cant really complain about the product of the football in sfl 3. it will be on a par with playing the likes of dunfermline, with the same competetivenese of the 9 in a row era. sign up and show everyone watp.

Don't forget you've no money, no income, no team, you'll have to pay sh*te wages and you might not even get promoted.

Oh - and administration is not out of the question for you again!

You clearly have not seen div three football, Dunfermline would win every game by three or four. My sons gym teacher plays for Stranrear now promoted to div two, and he is no better than those in the school team.

14 Jul 2012 03:22:06
Sevco wont be put into sfl3 did you see green and mcoist speak two more insencere individuals you could not find. They know this is n't the final decision and are merely putting a front on(badly). Whole thing stinks just wait and see!

Heard a rumour that Regan and Doncaster gave Mr Green a cast iron guarantee that Rangers wouldn't be in Div 3 and Mr Green has enough proof to take both these muppets to court. How true that is I don't know.

Certainly if Rangers aren't in Div3 next season it really will be Armageddon for Scottish football as it's what over 890% of all fans want!

Barney Bear

Mcoist was sincere like most rangers fans he wants to start at the bottom and work our way up.This still seems to be a problem for fans of other teams to accept.You did not want us you tryed to bully clubs to vote us in to div1 they did not now your teams are scared they will soon go bust.All you fans who wanted to kick rangers when they were down by telling your chairmen vote rangers back in and we will boycott.Well good luck the only team you have damaged is your own.I said as long as rangers got voted in to one of the leagues they would come back stronger.To the men in charge of rangers please say no if this greasy mob now try to let u back in to the SPL WE WILL STILL SUPPORT THE TEAM IN LOWER LEAGUES.

Isuppose that its al 'part of the plan'. As for poster 1 - if my girlfriend gives me a 'cast iron' guarantee of sex with her best friend and the best friend then decides no shes not having sex with me can i sue my girlfriend ? I think not.

14 Jul 2012 00:45:26
Sad about rangers it can happen to any club but the fans shouldnt blame themselves and shouldnt be punished but at the end of the day football is football craig whyte and david murray are the ones who should suffer not the loyal fans good luck for the new season and hope you return to the spl in a few years good luck a hibernian fan !

All Rangers fans should be contacting their MPs ect to ask them to petion that David Murrays nighthood be taken back for his mis management/dissolving of our club? they stripped that RBS director for similiar stuff so feel this is right that Murray also stripped ? lets also boycott any buisnesss involved with Murray group.
This man made millions ove rthe years and has not even once at any point offered any money to the fighting fund etc total charlatan who has shown in th eend that he never cared in least about Rangers FC

Good call Murray a complete and utter fraud he should be made to ahnd back Knighthood .. everyone should support this he gets paid for going to House of Lords is that true??

Re point 1. only downside to the boycott suggestion would be that these businesses employ people just like the Ibrox staff they didnt choose to be in a business owned by Murray and would be the ones to get sacked if his companies lose money. {Ed039's Note - I am urging as many real fans as possible to reject the ideas of boycotts, lets get this clear this is our mess. We should have been sento SFL 3 straight away and this pressure to make a decision should not have landed with any other clubs)

You write to the House of Commons awards committee.

Hes not a Peer hes a mere Sir. He snt amember of the House of Lords. Hell I thought you people knew about royalty, the aristocracy, awards and that crap !!

13 Jul 2012 23:58:00
rangers are one of the biggest clubs on earth. we have the fanbase to be back bigger and better. lets use the oportunity to get rid of the rubbish that dogged the club.by the time we get back the scottish clubs will be 2leagues of max 30 clubs. not 42. the rest will be bust, the ones that remain will be on there knees and ready for the picking.each one that goes nist.and each scots club that gets doe in the first or second round of europe as they all will, i will laugh and laugh and laugh, and they will not have the fan base to come back. they,ve slit there own throats through jealousy. god rest there weary souls

When you say 'get rid of all the rubbish' perhaps you should include the attitude you've just shown.'Clubs on their knees and ready for picking?'My God do you never learn?By all means lets start again but with the right attitude,not wishing ill to all and sundry.Look into yourself and try and find good not ill.Fans like this we can do without in our new start

Nice sentiments shown yet again.Wouldn't like to have a pint with you mate,so full of ill will it ani't true.Let some sunshine in.

Every time you want to feel for the plight of the Rangers fan, one of your kind writes a wee message and reminds us of the baggage that comes with you.

Waken up "Rangers are one of the biggest clubs in the world"
We have 1 European success in over 50 attempts.
It was dillusional ideas like this that got us into this mess. Football moved on years ago and we were left on the hardshoulder.

The clubs will just start as NEWCO like youse did, if youse can do why not them?

3) The same baggage that follow's every club. There are moron's throughout Scotland that wear a whole range of football colours. Less of the tribalism please, everyone to their happy place.

pappy

Can we get this right ? rangers went bankrupt. A new club representing them is now in div 3. The rest of the spl are intact and you are laughing ? This is the worst week ever for rangers supporters.

13 Jul 2012 23:07:31
Still taking in today's news, and it's consequences. Just taken a while to read over the posts since the sfl announcement and I see we still have a fair amount of posts from Celtic supporters dancing on our graves.

Guys, I hope you are in the minority of your clubs supporters, because when will you wake up and smell the coffee regarding how this is going to impact on your club and Scottish football?

Do you really think you will be able to attract the same calibre of player? Also what is going to happen to the uefa co efficient with teams such a as Motherwell etc getting dumped out in early qualifying rounds? (no disrespect to Motherwell lol)

You will find the champions league harder and harder to qualify for, and this is all before we get to the sky telly deal.

Yes, we may be watching football that isn't as easy on the eye, but I fear we won't be the only ones.

Please, look at the bigger picture. Anyhow, now that's off my chest, fellow bears, now is the time for us, surely, to back our team. Wether you agree with green or not, our team needs us now, I really hope we can pack ibrox to the rafters, and sell out our away allocations too!

Well Henrik Larson didnt cost a fortune did he and look how he turned out

The votes over the past week have shown just about EVERY club,not just Celtic,feel the same.Why do you ignore the rest?I have heard more negative comments from my Aberdeen mates than any other but you go on and on,fixated with that one club.It is a mystery how your mind works.

#2 the vast majority of grave-dancers on here are tims, the guys not ignoring the rest, he's focusing on the most frequent.
By the way, my Dons mates are the same, but their bitterness just makes me smile.

Its funny that the only team who will be uneffected by the financial meltdown of scottish football is rangers! Everyone else will die as you somehow manage to rise unscathed through the leauges?

When will you stop the sour grapes. You seem to forget that eventually you have to climb back to the top league too. You will not be as "bigger and stronger" as many of you say. Another thing, you say that Celtic fans have been dancing on your graves. Just remember that Celtic were only one of 36 clubs in all the leagues that voted no to SPL entry and then Div one entry. But it must be our fault. Yeah right!! Celtic stayed quiet on the whole matter for a good while. There will be a financial impact on Celtic but as Lenny stated last week they can deal with that by selling a player, a luxury that we have but Sevco haven't. Based on you 'articulate' and 'clearly accurate' analysis of how things will turn out, how do you feel Sevco will do on their return to the SPL? Bottom 6?

To be fair a load of Celtic fans acknowledge they'll miss the OF games and that the SPL will lack any excitement next year. Albeit most of them are happy to gloat I've found fans of other clubs and chairmen of other clubs more annoying in this instance. Barney Man

@3 Does that not say something about you?Dons fans comments just make you smile but Timmy's are 'grave dancers?'Maybe double standards there---what's the difference?You tell me---it's your thoughts.