Rangers Banter Archive August 15 2012

15 Aug 2012 22:10:18
Ian Black booed tonight by Scotland fans when coming on near end of game. Bloody disgraceful. {Ed039's Note - I think it was the Hibs fans as an ex Hearts player because the boy McGowan for Australia got it as well)

FFS how paranoid are you lot now? Brilliant!

Briggs

I agree with the reason Ed but it is still unacceptable booing a player in a Scotland jersey - the SFA should grow a pair and make a statement saying that no more Scotland games at any level will be played at Easter Rosd

Wasn't long ago rangers fans booed him for tackle on jelavic, the guys a thug and shouldn't be near a gers top.

Why. Didn't they boo webster then?

See where you are coming from Ed039. However, I personally have never heard a Scotland player booed by their own fans like that. The Anti Rangers agenda rumbles on.

Come on Ed that's really poor saying you think it was the Hibs support! Nonsense, what if it was the hearts support because he left? Or perhaps the tartan army just don't like Rangers? And what rangers has done to Scottish football. {Ed001's Note - if it was the Tartan Army, why were they booing McGowan and no other Aussie then?}

Ian black will be rangers best player you wait and see

Rangers fans singing . if you hate the tartan army clap your hands. bloody disgracful. shamrock

@ 3. I agree that tackle on Jelavic was nasty mate, but honestly ive seen worse in Oldfirm games that only get talked about for a few weeks.

Hibs fans ?

why not Webster - Berra _ Levein - when it happened to Lennon it was called BIGOTRY

BF

He broke jelavic's leg, that's a bit different. I've never boo'd a Celtic player in a Scotland top. It's a fkn joke n should be tolerated.
Dtp89

Briggsy. It's not paranoia man get a grip!
Craig Levein said Lee Wallace wasn't picked becaue he played in 3rd division then picks Ian Black. It was Hibs fans who were booing because Balck is an ex Hearts player. The point the OP and Ed are making is that any player should not be booed by their own fans.
I'll bet the Wallace situation is more to do with the ongoing battle between the SFA and Rangers over the football debts scenario.
However regardless of the SFA's attitude i disagree with the "New campaign" post regarding Whittaker,Mcgregor and Naismith.
P.O.B.

Remember when Dalglish and Jinky were booed at Hampden and nothing was said at the time .......DH

No.5 Heard and seen plenty players wearing the dark blue booed by their own fans.
Jinky for one.Head out of the sand please.
Come on Scotland.
No.7 Ian Black played well at Peterhead eh?

Yeah Shamrock and what national team do you support, and be honest.

15} i thought i could hide it but obviously you have seen right through me , yes you're right all my life i have been a secret khazikstan fan... i take it this question is the usual anti irish thing .. no you are wrong i was born scottish in scotland . and that is the national team i am proud to support... if scotland are not at the tournament and ireland are , yes i would support the irish before anybody else. but is that any worse or different from a rangers fan supporting england if scotland are absent.. ... shamrock

I posted @6) criticising Ed for saying it was Hibs fans, STV reported at 6.20pm with interview of Black, a senior tartan army representative and a Scotland coach...... It was then suggested it was Hearts fans. I rest my case. Think Ed owes Hibs fans an apology. It's just not on jumping the gun on such issues. {Ed001's Note - oh stop whining, Hearts fans weren't booing the Aussie lad were they? Give it a rest, it is embarrassing that you are whining about this.}

Please Ed.Hibs fan.Don't go blaming us.There must have been a lot of Hibs fans there if it was only us.Doubt it.Blame where blame is due! {Ed039's Note - Listen, even the commentator mentioned it, and if the Hibs fans had nothing to do with any booing then why did the boy McGowan get it as well, I am not saying anything bad about it or anything against Hibs fans for it, I just think that it played a part mate)

15 Aug 2012 21:25:14
Only 5 updates today?! That's shocking! Get your finger out people! {Ed039's Note - Read the threads that are attached to the updates, there have been plenty of updates today. Tube)

Haha, not afraid to put the boot in ED039 ae?
Dtp89

15 Aug 2012 20:52:22
Can anyone tell me the result from the game with the accies tonight?

Gers won 5-1.

15 Aug 2012 20:15:00
Lucas neill without a club, might be a consideration

On the wages he's used to?! You must be kidding? {Ed039's Note - He will stay in one of the arab leagues or sumfin, picking up about 80-100k per week)

I'd rather have big davie weir back.

15 Aug 2012 19:23:57
Did i just hear on tv that all money owed to us from last season was distributed to the other 11 SPL clubs as a condition to get the licence transfered,
surely that money should have been used to pay football creditors first and the rest given back to us

JG

Money was owed to oldco though. {Ed039's Note - And the Dundee United money was owed BY the oldco, you cant have it both ways, newco when you want but oldco when its convenient)

The money should have gone to the administrators and paid to the creditors in proportion to the sums owed. HMRC cannot be happy to see money owed to them going to others.

Look the SPL make up their own rules and other fans say rangers were punished for not playing by the rules which fu,,king rules

3

Were in division 3, lost good players, were fined and have no European games. Don't give me 'they were consequence and not punishment' clap trap. Consequences hurt just as much as pain. If a drunk guy falls down the stair and breaks his skull its a consequence, but it still fu***ING hurts. Simples init.

Post 4; the drunk guy caused his problem,just as rangers did.Why can you not get it?

Gers waived the £2.5m we were due for finishing runners up, time we stood firm, we have been punished enough.

@4 I'm poster 3 that's what I was saying that the spl are making up rules to punish rangers for this that and the next thing even though these rules don't exist I didn't think it was that hard to understand lol

15 Aug 2012 18:17:00
lot ah dafties on here...the gers gave the money to the sfa to pay the clubs......blame them ....deecee

Get your facts right.Ask Green about the letter he received from the SFA. Bit economical with the truth our Charlie

Said he'd paid 500k to SFA in this regard but declined to be tranparent about it .

Paddy Malarkey
PS Is it just me or have you guys never seen a circus barker before ?

15 Aug 2012 17:11:24
Ally mcoist has now let towie mark wright trial after his desire to join rangers... {Ed039's Note - Who?)

Nonsense.he would be a laughing stock if he sanctioned this {Ed039's Note - Who the hell are you talking about? Is that the Essex programme or something?)

Great left foot and a bit of eye candy for the dressing room, right up sandazzas and deanos street.

Shut upppppp

Aw ed stop pretending you've no got a clue. To quote Shakespeare verbatim " The lady doth protest too much" {Ed039's Note - I dont pay attention to alot of popular culture, I dont have time for it to be honest)

Regarding OP, ED.... Ally McCoist, surely you've heard of him? {Ed039's Note - Wee chubby guy, going bald, used to score barrell loads of goals. I see now lol)

15 Aug 2012 16:22:14
Re outstanding Debts to Scottish Football.
Looks like Utd have shot themselves with this attack on Rangers-When in fact their own orginisation the SPHELL owe the money not us.The SPHELL however have no reserves and no money in the pot despite Rangers not taking any money owed from last years campaign in fact they could be insolvent if someone were to challenge them they do not have the funds to defend if that was you or I we would be declared bankrupt.
So Utd before you have a pop you would do better to speak to your fellow cowards that make up the SPHELL to make sure you are going to hit the target that is and always will be Rangers in your eyes.

You can make things up very well, You should write for the daily record

Actually united stated that they had not been paid didnt read that it was rangers they blamed {Ed039's Note - Of course, this is what I am trying to say to folk, United want to know where the money is and the SPL are the ones to answer)

@1 make up things really well coming from one of you lot is that some kind of joke you lot are on here constantly slavering p,,h

@1 clearly all reports are vindicating the OP so do you think perhaps you should have waited lets say 10 secs before having a pop! away back to the dark pages they will be missing you by now.

15 Aug 2012 16:04:39
RANGERS Football club has today released the following statement.


Rangers Chief Executive Charles Green said: "As previously stated, Rangers Football Club can confirm it has paid all outstanding debts to Scottish football clubs, in addition to agreeing to waive all claims to unpaid fees accrued last season, as part of the Five Party Agreement which was a condition of SFA membership.

"A letter from the SPL to the Club - dated 18 May 2012 - stated 'The Board decided to accede to the application of Dundee Utd and accordingly, the sum will be withheld from the next sum payable by the SPL Limited to Rangers and the sum will be paid by the SPL Limited to Dundee Utd.'

"Why the SPL have not paid Dundee Utd the outstanding sum as previously agreed is a question that they need to answer.

"We wrote to Dundee Utd on Monday explaining the SPL had previously confirmed they would pay it.

"I spoke to Stewart Regan and his solicitor this morning and provided them with copies of all relevant documentation."

So why is cg saying all debts are paid , seems to me he jumped the gun , not united who only responded to a statement from green {Ed039's Note - But as far as CG is concerned they are paid and he has proof of it)

Good to see green showing clarity on this point, just wish he would clarify a few other outstanding points, and everyone can have more confidence in him and the future. Over to you mr green.

Green said rangers settled all the debts but says the SPL should settle oldcos debt to Utd, that in itself is contradictory.
He contradicts himself in one statement.

He says that monies would be paid from the NEXT SPL payment. when is that due ? Paddy Malarkey

The agreement was made prior to last seasons prize money being due you cheeky monkey. Rangers have payed all debts due to Scottish clubs, the SPL holding on to the cash is their problem and nothing to do with us.

15 Aug 2012 15:38:48
does anyone know how to get youre rangers login number?

Firstly do you have a rangers number?
if yes go to the login section then forgotten password and enter your email, they will send a new password to you

if no register on the website

JG

15 Aug 2012 12:35:23
Dundee Utd complaining about not being paid, but yet Green's statement says: ""Furthermore, the club was given a written commitment from the SPL in May that it would settle an outstanding debt to Dundee Utd."
Presumably this part of the money still owed from last season.
Again, the SPL like the SFA cannot be trusted . I am sure we will now hear from the SPL this money is no longer due to Rangers, and therefore to pay Dundee Utd on our behalf, as we are a Newco.
While we are the Oldco when it comes to paying debts.

Make up your minds. If we are the Oldco then give us our SPL money from last season as we pay our debts, and keep our history.
If we are just a Newco, then give us our money back as we should not have paid the debts of the old club and let us just get on with it.
But no, these idiots want us to be a Newco when money is due to the Oldco, and the Oldco when money is owed to other clubs.
No one can talk to us about 'Sporting Integrity' where they do not have any 'Integrity' sporting or otherwise themselves!

Equally if you want to have the history then you should have the debt - all of it, including that owed to HMRC. {Ed039's Note - Yes but so do all of the haters as well, cant be newco when it fits and oldco when its convenient and money is needed)

15 Aug 2012 12:12:51
I, of course, wish the "new" Rangers every success for the future. I have no doubt that the present generation of players and staff will make a positive and beneficial contribution to the SPL and, in due course, return the Club to a position of pre-eminence in Scottish football.

And there you go again Sir David – it is not a "new" Rangers. It is Rangers Then, Rangers Now, Rangers Forever. All this talk of "new" Rangers will lead to you being condemned by the fans of eternal Rangers.

 

However, I am determined to support those who served the Club with such dignity and integrity during my stewardship.

And whilst under your stewardship a huge tax bill and massive debt was run up?

15 Aug 2012 14:55:34
SPL secretary Iain Blair is said to have sent the letter to Rangers.© SNS Group












STV has obtained the wording of a letter believed to have been sent by the Scottish Premier League to Rangers on May 18, 2012.

In the correspondence, the SPL agrees to meet a debt owed by Rangers to Dundee United, totaling just over £31,000, taken from competition money due to the Ibrox club for finishing second in the league in the 2011/12 season.

The letter, from SPL secretary Iain Blair, read: "The Board of the Scottish Premier League Ltd considered the application by Dundee United that the outstanding sum due by Rangers to Dundee United of £31,031.20 be offset against the next sums due to Rangers by SPL Ltd, with the offset sum being paid to Dundee United.

"The board decided to accede the application to Dundee United and accordingly the sum will be withheld from the next sum payable by the SPL Ltd to Rangers, and the sum will be paid by the SPL Ltd to Dundee United."

yes charles wehave always known their is an agenda against us ... jsm

The rangers are a new club what prize money are they owed ??? {Ed039's Note - If thats the case why do they owe other SPL clubs money?)

@1you are a total d,,k get over it the spl is corrupt and you thought rangers were bad we were just poorly run by someone who had thoughts bigger than his station. The people who run the spl are arrogant greedy only interested in self gain and a complete bunch of useless morons who don't care one bit about the best interests of Scottish football totally disgusting

The new 'the rangers' are not owed any prizemonies. They have no footballing history and have never won anything to have prize money. Gottit? Good!
Now new rangers agreed to certain conditions to get into the SFL and get an SFA membership. This included penalties such as paying the debts of oldco to other teams. This doesn't mean Newco is oldco, it's just a clever condition of entry.so Newco needs to pay as agreed for membership from their funds the debts. Gottit? Great! Well done!

In response to 3. The prize money was due to the oldco, well done. The debt belonged to the old co, keeping up so far? The SPL assured UTD they would get their money instead of the old co getting it. This would, I assume, be due at the end of the season. The old co never received the money and now we know either did UTD. This should have been paid before the newco agreed to any membership conditions as it was due before then. It wasn't paid. Neither has it been paid to the old co so surely they should either pay UTD as agreed or put the money in the pot for the creditors. Instead it seems they have just decided to divide it up and dish it out to member clubs. Is that fair? I know we didn't pay our debts so we can't speak but we are being vilified for that and they aren't!

Grant

15 Aug 2012 14:50:29
once again Green has been caught out in a big fat lie, yesteday he said, all money owed to scottish clubs has been paid in full, yet today Dundee Utd have said they have not recieved a penny from Rangers of what they are owed.
Green lied and needs to get his facts right, Rangers still owe money to scottish football clubs, and the debts have not been paid in full {Ed039's Note - Why havent anybody else said anything then? Its the SPL that are at fault with this one)

Ed:why are the SPL at fault for oldco/newco not paying their debts? {Ed039's Note - Read some of the other posts and watch the news mate, the SPL have the responsibility to pay this as they didnt pay out on RFC prize money for the 2011-12 season)

15 Aug 2012 11:10:03
I heard that Anthony Vanden Borre the Belgium international has been released from KRC Genk he can play Right back & right wing and at 24 yrs of age does anyone else think we should gamble on him? Euro experience from his days at Anderlecht before he failed to cut it at Fiorentina, Genoa and had a short loan spell at Portsmouth. Don't think he would command huge wages from being at Genk. Thoughts? Ger87

Aye...right! wake up noddy!

You don't ask you don't get. Can't see him coming though, would be able to find another decent club if he's an internationalist

15 Aug 2012 10:45:17
We are on the way back to where we belong. The backing from the fans in recent weeks and season ticket sales backs this up. Unlike the SPL Clubs who signed their own death warrant influenced only by the hatred of their own fans. Sell out Saturday - what a joke! Crowds already down at some grounds and we have still to reach winter.
Very few people are interested in a one-horse race with inflated prices at grounds for the poor quality on show. The SPL chairmen will be starting to panic already. They forgot we are in the middle of a recession and their blinkered decision making will cost jobs and send some of them into a similar situation to Rangers in time. What goes around comes around. As for the SFA they are corrupt top to bottom with an anti- Rangers agenda. Regan, Doncaster and several others should have been sacked long ago and they should have been joined by the 'anti-football' Craig Levein.

Funny how you don't say ogilvy must go he is on the board, is it cause he is a former board member of the dead club? What a stupid post! And how sad you are with the hate that jumps out, you are only following what your leaders say no matter how many times they have been proving to be wrong and lieing. You need to open your eyes and see the real world, don't you see how your saying everyone is against you because that's what ally and green say, did you also go after the tribunal members when ally demanded to know the names when he already know them?

15 Aug 2012 11:56:08
Now BBC also expose Charles Green as telling Pork Pies. No money to Dundee United. Rangers have not paid. NOT. Green is Whyte. Whyte is Green. "Wealth off the Radar" yep, that applies, as a Radar system can only detect something that is there, not something that is non-existent. Or have Green/Whyte invented "Stealth Weath"??

Think you were a bit too quick out the traps there, look at statement released later in the day

Well look on stv.tv it has a letter on it to rangers from spl ltd, it states that any money owed to utd will be taken from any money that was due to them will be deducted from any payments due, since rangers were not given any money then go and take ur wee green glasses off and concern yourself with your mhanky club, andygers74, watp

Read the wording of the letter sent to Rangers by the SPL. Not only did we forgo our prize money for finishing second, which is being distributed among the eleven other clubs, but there is a letter from the SPL agreeing to pay the £31,000 in return for the £2.25mil prize money. Now the SPL think they can keep the money and go back on their agreement. Talk about having your cake and eating it.

There's only one person exposed and that's you ya person - believing the BBC is a dangersous game - as Green said on Monday Gers have written agreement with the SPL for DU to be paid from their prize money - Green is 100% correct - the fact that DU haven't been paid is that SPL have cash flow problems and are technically insolvent at present so can't afford to pay them - I.e. They are using Gers money to keep afloat - you were all warned but looks likes the chickens are coming home to roost

SPL agreed to pay United from Rangers prize money. CG has letter to prove it.

On the RFC website that the SFA are due to pay united.... Debts have been paid

Think you need to read the full report b4 havin a mini stroke!
SPL agreed in writing to pay the money from rangers share of prize money from last year & rangers also agreed to waive the rest of their share of 2mill to be shared out amongst desperate SPL clubs

If your gonna have a kick, make sure it's better than that FFS!

bil72

The mans a chancer sees vulnerable fans and is just using them. time for real rangers fans to see the light for a change and kick this man out.

Next we'll find out there's not really 3 Billionaires on their way to Ibrox!

Hamish

BBC have exposed someone but it is not Green, the agreement was in place that money would be paid to utd from outstanding money owed to rangers

JG

15 Aug 2012 07:05:49
Who thinks you would get 30,000 celtic season ticket holders if they were in the 3rd division because i think you would be lucky to get 20,000 at each game. they cant fill there staduim for a champions league qualifer. un like the gers who used to have a full house at ibrox every euro game.

Rangers Vs Malmo 28,828.

Malmo..enough said lol.

We,ll never know how many season books Celtic would sell in Div3 because we're a well run club and will never go into admin never mind liquidation . And as for your full house for every euro game : Malmo 28,000 :Maribor 32,000 :PSV 35,000 :Sporting34,000 say no more.....DH

Luckily Celtic didn't cheat the game, were forced to fold and start again at the bottom as a new club.

Since when did rangers fill ibrox for a european tie ? hasnt happened in years

I'm a gers fan who worries about fellow fans, remind me how many was at malmo game last year?

Your talking pi** now just get on with your business in the 3rd division and let Celtic worry about the important things. Our business is not in question our bills can be paid so don't worry about us ya clown

Just face it my dad is bigger than yours

Was either malmo or Maribor full houses last year ??

Juventus champions league group stage games were lucky to get 10,000 in the past,what's your point?

Do you include the 28,000 attendance vs Malmo last season? Or the fact that Celtic have had more season ticket holders than rangers for over 12 years now?

Have a think about son

Rangers never had full houses the last time they played in the champions league,check out how many where at the malmo and maribor games.....stop telling lies.

Do they even have 30,000 in the SPL. Celtic are refusing to announce figures for their sales, rumours that they are significantly down on last season.

Give it a rest. 52000 v helsinki and probably the same v helsingbords.Green would kill for that income.Concentrate on your own team.Pathetic

People in glass houses mate, when Rangers weren't spending other peoples money and cheating the tax payer and the game in general their average attendance was 5,566 (season 83/84).
Once the euphoria has died down and reality sets in it wouldn't at all be surprising if the same thing happens!

Well said mate, some of their attendances last season were shocking!

Take a look at the attendance figs for ure 2 gome euro comp games last season mate before coming out with false accusations

Hope you have a good memory because you won't be seeing any European games for the rest of this decade!

Just exactly how much study did you put into this OP? Rangers CL qualifier last season 28,000 Celtic's this season 53,000. Now for your own sake use brain then type, not the other way round.

Did the matches in Europe last season have full houses watching them?

No.

Do us all a favour mate, forget about them. This isn't a pi$$ing contest.

Ha ha ha ha ha , rangers couldnt even fill thier stadium when thier club was in administration......enjoy your late night kick offs away to arbroath while celtic play in europes biggest cup.....

cant the new club that plays in the third division and models themselves on rangers fc just keep their mouths shut and get on with it.. {Ed039's Note - Then you wouldnt be able to get your tuppence worth in would you?)

No full houses now.....or euro games.

55k stadium ....30k renewal just more than half {Ed039's Note - Not bad considering some folk questioned whether there would be crowds of 10-15,000 at games)

You might be right.but wait till the winter and see how much show up.at the moment it is just defiance.you have just been done by one con man.you might just be going to make the same mistake again .P,S,ASK JOHN BROWN, {Ed039's Note - Bombers knows it all but is saying nothing I suppose)

Totally distorted scenarios, reduced ticket prices being one, another being the the old the worlds against us propaganda and finally your club nearly died and in Glasgow we have the worlds most loyal fans. Celtic fans would do the same so don't kid yourself on stop the tit for tat nonsense. I could have replied with the fact numbers are still down on previous years but I didn't, see the difference there.

OP - another question, who gives a f""k, i would rather concentrate on my own team and let them get on with it

JG

Which wasn't many

15 Aug 2012 04:05:23
is it true we are 300 thousand in debt already and we have only played 1 league game.need to give youth a chance.

I think you could multiply that by 10

300 thousand in debt after just making about 7 million on seaosn tickets ? Aye ok. {Ed039's Note - I'm laughing at it too)

Heard that there was a court action raised on 25th July in Northampton for £3000 pounds against us!!
Campsie Bear {Ed039's Note - Probably right)

Liquidation will happen again and god help yous for asking for it.

OP- we have just sold 30,000 ST's x average 300 quid and you are telling me we are 300k in debt, FS

JG

15 Aug 2012 01:15:53
Get your cash on two in-a-row man city. I see the sheep somehow beat sir furious' mob 2-1 in a sop/ testimonial to that thug simpson.

If he was in any way decent, he would donate half to a charity of Durranty's choosing. 21k there apparently. They'll do well to get a quarter of that for their "win on corners" in Saturday's 0-0.

That's funny we'll more sad and ironic I guess, yous saying it will be decent if he gave it to charity. This coming from a club that took the charity money for themselves to keep yourself alive for a month, yous keep up the good laughs.

Did Durrant donate any of his out of court settlement to charity?

15 Aug 2012 00:09:22
Well, the Daily Ranger has already tried to mollify the Rangers fans by undermining Celtic (read Mark Guidi's comments on the Inter Milan and Aberdeen matches). I guess you have to sell copy by keeping Ibrox fans happy.

The reality is that Rangers will remain cash starved and will only benefit from the Newcastle owner's investment to the extent that he can sell Rangers' shirts.

And by the way, it will benefit Rangers and other Scottish clubs if Celtic progress in the CL since it will improve our UEFA coefficient. Don't bite the hand that feeds you IF you ever get back into the CL

By the way you can stuff your coefficient cos celtic and the other spl clubs in europe this season didn't give a monkeys about us.

Who cares about the coefficient certainly nobody else bothered when we were in the final of a European trophy a few years back and no-one would help the coefficient by giving us time to prepare - away and bleet your nonsense to people who give damn!

Gers1986

It's the coefficient we built up that you are protecting numbnutz - now for once, instead of a vile reply, just appreciate the hand that has fed you !!!!

14 Aug 2012 21:22:48
tried all morning to get through to the ticket hotline for my season ticket without success,even tried the website which was jammed due to the high demand.But tonight i finally got my season ticket.perseverence does pay off.Anyone know roughly what we are at now?

You are an overspending third division club with a liar in charge again.

Good question. How many season ticket sales equates to sold out ? That's the number we've got to hit. This is a great opportunity for parents and grandparents to pitch up with new generations of fans and and an even better one to send a short, sharp message to the rest of Scottish football. Tens of thousands of Rangers fans around the world would love to be there to support the team but can't because of the distance, me being one, and are counting on our local fans to seize the moment. Ibrox at capacity is the goal.

14 Aug 2012 20:31:14
Quote of the day has to be Gary Caldwell - " Scotland has the strongest squad for over a decade" how many games as this squad won recently Gary?? Like yor defending flatters to deceive.

Good fkn grief!!

no comment!

bil72

Haha that is a good one from Gary.