Rangers Banter Archive February 15 2015

15 Feb 2015 19:18:04
Personally what gives an insight into our team's mind-set is comments such as Law's. He lost impetus when ally left. my ass. Like our ex manager he is an overpaid lush and, is amongst, the luckiest men on this planet to play for Glasgow Rangers. In my opinion, ally was picked for his non-ability and his signings, en bloc, must be amonst the worst ever made by any manager. Since our demise we have had a using, but the reason we have such a sh**e team is down to one person. He was given sufficient money to organise a structured team, while nurturing a youth policy, but he chose an easy option, so he thought, while laughing all the way to the bank. ''IF'' King wins control at the egm there is no way that this is an overnight fix. Not only has he the financial situation to sort but the worst coaching and playing staff in our history. Just remeber the board did not put this shambles together, amcc did and in my opinion any claim he had to legendary status is long gone.
Dave King can maybe put us on an even keel, financially, but to fix the playing side, that will take time.

Could not agree more.
Even last season his whole objective was not to lose a game. Big feckin deal. Against part time teams. When the league was even won by some distance he refused to play more young guys.
Selfish to the core.

Billyb

I 100% agree with everything you say mate I hope McCoist goes down in history as a hate figure in Rangers fans eyes as he single handedly destroyed every single component needed to play football. Through bad signings, old pals act, larking around instead of training, disregarded youth policy, destroyed the scouting system, had no tactics, no game plan, played most players out of position and wasted millions on lumps of wood too many to list. Add to this the worst and most naive football using punt the ball up park 1970s crap style. The WORST cup record in history losing every single one including the Ramsdens wa joke cup. Throw in taking 3.3million and shares PLUS still bleeding us dry of money when we really can't affoprd it (aye he is a Rangers man and a fan BULLS*T!).
It is beyong belief he managed to f**k up ever single thing he touched and I mean everything there is nothing he got right, ffs he even backed EVERY crook from Whyte right up to Easdales.

THE WORST RANGER IN OUR HISTORY IN MY OPINION AND HE SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED INSIDE IBROX AGAIN PERIOD

Were it up to me I would publicly have him stripped of every record he achieved as a player and remove him from all record listing and Rangers history, . His medals should be repossesed and sold to give some money to the countless staff sacked during cutbacks whilst superswally was drawing 800k salary he never knew about.

i am george

{Ed001's Note - could you get off the fence and let us all know how you really feel about McCoist please.....

Agree completely Billy.

No quick fixes here especially with Ashley's onerous contracts in place for years to come.

Three wasted years under Ally. Hard to think what more harm he could have done to the team.

Billyb I also agree, though I would imagine that while mr king is trying to win control he will have been puttin feelers out, esspecially once he new the e.g.m. Was in the bag, I imagine he has known for a while that he will win at the e.g.m. Due to the way the board have treated it's punters, us the fans.

There were plenty of occasions when we were comfortably ahead at Ibrox with about 20 mins left and rather than bring on young players like Telfer he would bring on Daly. From day one Ally has been a poor manager and now we are reaping what he sowed. It could take is a while to get back to challenging again and there will be more pain in store. Ally has done as much damage to the club as anyone

15 Feb 2015 20:55:55
Ally mcCoist is and always be a playing legend for rangers nobody was saying anything about the man when we were well clear in the premier before all this stuff happened he has got us back to where we are starting with 2 signed players I rekon if everything in the board room was sweet the players we have apart from black, foster, aird,simonsen and Faure we would easily win this league

Spam, I honestly think your poster name sums up where this post should be. The man was a sherman tanker as a manager and, for once, I totally agree with I am George. Forget all his achievements and look at what he is about, quite simply '' numero uno'', and to eff with what follows.

Ally is an ego maniac that's all.wanted his name in lights f#@k the club or it's future.

Have been posting how bad he was scince he got us put out of europe at the start of his managerial career absolutely hopeless happles and anything else I can think of

I totally agree with comments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, number 6 is one of the reasons it happened, another so called fan of our club that cannot separate the player from the manager, he has been a total disaster for the club as a manager .Nicky law summed it up perfectly when he said Ally was great at keeping our spirits up, in other words a joker, when we needed someone to command respect we got a clown, when we needed to develop a style we got hoofball.when we needed youth we got geriatric has beens like Kevin Kyle .Believe me when the dust finally settles on all this Mr McCoist will beshown up for what he was a complete chancer and he took us for a ride big time.

15 Feb 2015 21:47:41
What's wrong can't say more about board, so just harp back to ally, this guy had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get a team together when most would've walked at least he gave it a go with no help from anyone upstairs no one,
r.f

Rf. for half his wages I could have got us back to where we are, just by using guys I know that have and are currently playing junior football, I would have done his job though ime not known in the same way mccoist is known there are plenty yes plenty of ex players that could have done or better than super on 2 grand a week, and most would have classed it as easy money.

ED lolol funny response

Yes super not on my Xmas list

i am george

Ed001 your comic timing is superb!

crying inside, but laffing out loud!

keep up the good work.

I am george - really? you call yourself a Rangers fan but still make a statement like "THE WORST RANGER IN OUR HISTORY IN MY OPINION AND HE SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED INSIDE IBROX AGAIN PERIOD" about Ally McCoist? We can all say that Ally was a poor manager at best and utterly useless at worst - but to say what you say just makes you look stupid - so our top all time top scorer in modern times is the worst Rangers player ever? - worse than Jim Denny, Billy Urqhuart, Gregor Stevens and the list goes on. Sad if this is what we've come to - slagging off great ex-players who have contributed hugely to our great club in the past, given what the club is going through at the moment - you should be ashamed of that post

Great comment Ed. I wish people would not dither and sway. Tell it like it is. Lot of passion in the post there though. Bet he felt better after getting it off his chest. I disagree on one point though. Ally brought a lot of pleasure and goals when he played. He earned the medals and adulation as a player. Sadly, he put himself between the rock and the hard place by stating he did not do walking away. Everything else said about his tactical knowledge, lack of youth involvement, old buddies acts, backing every swindler and making a pot of cash into the bargain is all true. That said, he met the targets (regardless how it was achieved) of straight promotion every season. How many of us could honestly walk away given similar circumstances? If your bosses gave you pots of money to achieve a target with a promised bonus when you succeeded, what would you do? Ally did not spend the money directly, it was all approved by the board crooks they may be, but they spent the money on Ally's recommendations. Just look across the city at the number of Celtic fans who have constantly moaned because PL would not release the purse strings even though NL desperately wanted certain players. That's what failed at Rangers not just Ally. From SDM onwards the club has been run in a financial disastrous way. (tenner for every fiver, Whyte using ST money to buy the club, Green getting it and not being the highest bidder, MA getting naming rights etc for a pound and lending (not giving) money with strings attached (members on board, young Newcastle players). Is King going to be any better? I don't think so. Getting back to the main pointwhen you talk of football, Ally is up there with the best at this club. Management?? Aye well, there are restrictions on the language allowed to be published but let's just say he was shining bright.

16 Feb 2015 08:51:07
Am with RF and EK here. Shocked at so called Rangers fans making disgusting comments about mccoist. Rubbish manager? Yes. Terrible scout? Yes. But playing Legend? One of the greatest that every put on a jersey. All the comments seem like people who only know him for his managerial stint not his playing days.

16 Feb 2015 09:20:17
Here here E.K.bear at least he gave it ago @ george 123 get your name forward I'm sure this board would give u a shot, lol
r.f

Rf the way I've been shouting for there removal, IDE imagine they would get me shot, not give me a shot lol lol.

16 Feb 2015 13:45:49
terrible manager yes. but still a playing legend. no matter how we played he was criticized. I won't stand up for him, but if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have a team, his tactics are terrible, but he got us on the path to recovery, it was always going to be a long one, with many many many many hard times and bumps.

George123
Your hateful rant against one of my clubs greatest players is unbelievable. Won't say "our" as you are clearly not a real supporter.
Did he make a pass at your wife?
You are exactly the reason why I have doubt over fan ownership. Lunatics and asylum springs to mind!
You really need to change the record - David Murray is the real villain of the piece here. Did he not promise to make sure that he would pass the club on to a safe pair of hands! Aye right couldn't get out quick enough and left us wide open to every charlatan since. Yet you bang on about ally at every opportunity.
Smell the coffee

Ger09 were do you get that comment from, maybe it's a case of reading the posts before you type that's your problem eh.

@21 it's the other George your thinking of but there is no way he has a wife!

Ger09. I've defended mccoist on here by saying he was great for goals, and the pleasure we all got from him, and the trophies we have won through his goals and the greates goal scorer at our club, but he will never be a manager IMHO,

Ger09 surely you are getting your George's mixed up, and though I agree with (I am George's posts) on some occasions I have never would nor ever say he was not a great asset to our club as a player, honestly, I think you can only be mixing me and I am George up.

Gers09

Ally couldn't organise 11 men to pass a ball 5 yards to each other so not too worried about my wife.

Mind you he could no doubt pay 7million for her and I am confident turn her from a slim elegant and sexy lady into a fat slag hooker on the smack within 2 'seasons' with her. So I think based on that she might give him a bye to the next girl. lolol

i am george

Inverbear u missed the bit about his pockets full loot and a million shares to boot

I am George for 7 million he can take my missus for the rest of his or her life lol, lol.

Apologies - George's mixed up! His bile to a club legend makes my blood boil.
Keyboard gangster without a coaching badge to his name - and before you ask yes I have!

Gers09 apology excepted mate, the mix up in names has happened before, so, to prevent it happening again I am going to post under a different name soon, well as soon as my daughters man(good son) appears, as ime not very well tuned into getting name change (silly auld cent ) lol, but when he is next here it will be fixed, though I will let everybody on here know it's still me, youse can't get rid of me that easy lol, lol.

15 Feb 2015 14:01:39
Anyone ever wanted proof that Scottish football ain't watched down south is Ally was being considered for the Villa job.

Hahahhaha surely not?

Inverbear. Do you believe that bull?

No George. It just put a smile on my face.

Randy learner would need to have white stick and a dug to gie ally the job

MA has it all planned. McCoist goes to Villa and ruins the whole set up and team, the rot sets in to the EPL therefore the EPL is ruined, MA sells Newcastle and SPFL then get all the TV cash


It could be a cunning plan straight for Blackadder but could work (hahahahahhaa)

More chance of Villa signing Jig, Boydy and Kenny Black as Ally managing them.

Jim Traynor's PR company should really be able to come up with something at least vaguely credible surely?

LOLOL I pissed myself about that too.

The reality is supersalary APPLIED for the post he was never seriously considered ffs the English did see some Rangers games. good luck with that one lolol

If thesalary is seriously actually going to apply for managers jobs he is as deluded as we all believe he is. He will NEVER EVER get a job in football management EVER, with the exception of maybe Whyte and Green will request him to manage the Barlinnie FC team and even then I am sure the Governor would seriously question him having the skills to work with a load of crooks and running a shite football team . hold on there's a thought he is perfect for that as he was doing that for 3 years!

i am george

I am George yes mate a few of us thought the same years ago and it's not changed IDE imagine, he will struggle to get into football again IMO, I think his best chance would be to wait until mr king gets control then tear up his contract, maybe get a job upstairs at our club, pr if the supporters never protested.

Apart from anything else, look at his CV
Played 584 games
St Johnstone, Sunderland, Rangers, Kilmarnock
Scored 290 goals
Capped 61 times for Scotland
Scored 19 Goals

Asst Manager Scotland 2004 - 2007
Asst Manager Rangers 2007 - 2011
(Acknowledged by then Manager as managing the Team during a successful Scottish Cup campaign in 2008)
Manager Rangers 2011 - 2014
2011-2012 SPL 2nd Place (despite 10 point deduction due to admin)
2012 - 2013
Club went into administration and were elected back into the SFL
SLF 2 - 2012 - 2013 1st Place (SLC 1/4 Final placing)
SLF 1 - 2013 - 2014 1st Place
Scottish Cup Semi finalist. Challenge Cup, 2nd Place.
SLF Championship 2014 - 2015 (currently 2nd place)

Due to internal boardroom, shareholder issues and current position of the club in league table, mutually agreed with the board to allow the assistant manager to conduct the day to day affairs of team training and selection.

Does that say his team selection, tactics, player signing were a mess? - No
Does it mention him holding the players and supporters together when everything seemed to be falling apart? - No.

Did he make a chunk of cash in the process? - Yes,
The fact is, on paper he was manager of a club in a fairly unique situation and aside from the football side of things he was involved on a daily basis with the fans and media. He also achieved the targets set out and some small club might be interested in someone like that.
Would I want him as a manager? - No

Password

Couldn't even win a Ramsdens cup against part time muppets that was his level

i am george

The ramsdens cup he could nae win the tetley cup make tea bags make tea

15 Feb 2015 08:45:15
It must be obvious to all that this current Rangers 'team' is as low on motivation as any team could possibly be. Firstly, we have a manager who doesn't want to be there and is just waiting for his big pay-off. He also doesn't have a clue tactically, just like his predecessor Ally. Secondly, the low turnouts must be demotivating. I applaud the boycott but to be fair the atmosphere at Ibrox must be dire. And of course the more games that pass with defeats the more players will lose heart. There is only one answer and that is that King wins the day after the EGM and then McDowall is booted out immediately and a new management team brought in. At least we might salvage a place in the play-offs if confidence can be restored. It wouldn't therefore matter if we finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th, we'd still be in the play-offs. Roll on 4th March!

15 Feb 2015 09:39:54
KMD isn't waiting for his "big pay off", He, s waiting for his legally entitled wages m8, same as me or you would do, he signed a contract, would you rather these thiefs stole from him too?

You're missing the point tommy51. Both McDowall and McCoist were grossly overpaid for what they did (or didn't do). It would just be nice if some people showed a bit of dignity and grace sometimes. Why didn't McDowall tell the Board that his position was untenable and that he couldn't manage the team - they couldn't sack him as his job was as an assistant to McCoist. He could have then probably gone on gardening leave too. Remaining there is damaging the team more. Just imagine how good the players would feel if McCall, Davies or McInnes walked in the door to take over? It would have an immediate impact. Does McCoist need the money he is getting paid whilst on gardening leave and the money still to be paid to him? I doubt it. He made more on Question of Sport!

15 Feb 2015 10:59:26
I cedrtrainly don't miss the poinht, here is the point m8, Kenny McDowall signed an agreement for a certain wage and is entitled to make sure he gets that, he may never work again for all you know,, and he may also need the money for all you know, he will have a mortgage to pay I take it, and kids to feed,? Easy enough for us to sit at a keyboard and tell the world what someone else should do is it not?, and By the way, he is a big Rangers fan who was treated atrociously by the club, not the other way around

Tommy51 your right the point is no matter how good or how bad they are they have a contract of employment which states what they will be paid end of story blame can only be attached to whoever negoiated the contract on rangers behalf

Bigwull you beat me to it mate, I also think after the e.g.m. That king will be victorious .and mccoist will tear up his contract, saving the club a million pound, to move forward.

George don't like to dump your hopes macoist won't tear his contract up and go for nothing believe me

@2&3

The point is that McDowall shouldn't be the manager and him being there will have serious consequences for the team. However I do agree is was over paid for the poor job he has done and is doing but is entitled to get his money

Bigwull I will dispute that point, mccoist would tear up his contract IMO.the only reason it's not been tore up to date is because he knows and new that him tearing it up would help the current people trying to ruin our club, that's my opinion and I don't think we will have to wait much longer to find out.

14 Feb 2015 23:37:47
Brentford will announce on monday that their manager mark warburton will not be getting his contract renewed in the summer and will be leaving as manager, over to dave king if as likely he wins control of the rangers boardroom what a coup for the new board if they could bring mark warburton and davie weir to rangers as our new management team, what a fantastic appointment this would be for the club and all us long suffering fans, common king step up & play if you win control and go and get us warburton & weir, do all other bears think this is possible and do you ed?

{Ed001's Note - it would be a surprise if he wanted to move to Scottish football when he has top flight interest in England.}

15 Feb 2015 09:42:07
make up your mind m8, on the other page its McInnes you said is coming, The rst told you??

OP a bit of a sleight to SAF and WS if we appoint then because on your other post you tell us that they recommend Mcinnes.

Jr

you are going back and forward with your manager 'exclusives' if we get the set up you are predicting we are going to have 5 managers and a backroom staff of 10!

lolol

i am george

Tommy 51, with all due respect try reading my post and understanding it mate, I only told you what chris graham told me regarding mcinnes being king & co's no.1 choice, at what part of my post did you read that I actually wanted mcinnes, I'll answer it for you, you didn't read me saying that, so before you come on here criticising people try reading the post properly my good friend, my choice for next rangers manager has always been billy davies although I wouldn't mind mark warburton as it would also be a very good appointment!

16 Feb 2015 16:33:49
looks like i'm not the only one who read it wrong the eh?