Rangers Banter Archive February 01 2012

 

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01 Feb 2012 23:50:17
This we are the people crap is what got you's in to this mess. We are to big to go under BULLSHXT so was the Titanic. This guy Craig Whyte is ripping the heart out of your club and all you can think about is finding away to make Neil Lennon the culprit for this mess. We are going to do this we are going to do that so we will get Lennon the sack. Grow a pair. How did demonstration go?? I bet there wasn't any. Lenny was two games away from winning the treble in his first season in charge and he would of done it only for the off the pitch shxte he was put through. Walter Smith knew what was coming so did McCoist. Craig WHYTE fool you all. You are at Least going to be deducted 10 points so stop this talk of winning the league. Yaz drop 15 points with jellypish so you's think you's will do better with Kyle Laughatme and David no other club will have me healy. Lol I just can't get enough. In Craig WHYTE we trust......

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In Whyte you're bust.

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Has precious little money last few seasons, why can't we do it again this season? You've had money thrown at your club left right and center and have failed to reap the rewards so far. Team of bottlers you've got, we've got a team who knows what it feels like to win. Muzz

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@muzz; check the spending since smith came back n you might be surprised

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01 Feb 2012 23:46:42
Some points for thought:

Celtic fans right to wind us up , after all I winded all Celtic fans rite up when they were in same boat diff is they won nothing ? Rangers have win 3nrow

Lost kenny miller last jan our leading goal scoring at the time jellyfish injured laff injured Both came in and down well just hope laff can to the same , aluko , mervin , Hemmings , little healy can all play up front ? Davis will chip in with few more important goals

We have no good distractions from uefa cup / league cup in next couple of months so less games fresher players ?

Interesting stats on stv page. Over the last 5 years rangers have spent 33 mill on players and received 20 mill back ?
Celtic spent 35 mill received same back from players ?
So we not as skint as made out ?

Looking at English league during this window they didn't spend too ? Apart from Chelsea, qpr etc nothing at man utd , spurs , arsenal etc. not just rangers who can't buy?

Hope Celtic and the press keep slating rangers this will fire McCoist and players rite up if I was him I would cutting newspaper clippings out and hanging up in dressing room and telling players to take a long look at this ?

Keep believing and hope samaras comes out with more comments in newspaper.

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"less games fresher players"

How about more players fresher team?

Diddy

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Your gonna lose a whole club! we only lost the league.

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01 Feb 2012 23:29:49
Wondering if we've got any promising strikers in the youth squad who're maybe able to step up? From the little i saw of him, i don't think that Hemmings is quite rangers quality (hope i'm proven wrong), and i've never really seen Little play. In times like these we need Murray Park to pay off. Muzz

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01 Feb 2012 22:36:44
no one can give up on the title just yet. how good a year would this be to win it!!
lennon would get the boot n we'd nvr see his face lifting the title!!
Come on rangers. celtic winning the lwague is bad enough BUt wiv LENNON!! we gotta win it so he can nvr!

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You will have to finish above Motherwell first and still be in business

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Why are you so intent on getting lennon the sack?

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Lennon will be lifting the title this season son! He'll also be lifting the League Cup, how would you cope if he lifted the Scottish Cup? Could your bigoted wee head cope with that? Get used to not winning anything for a while!

DazzaBhoy

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01 Feb 2012 22:32:25
Just speaking to an old neighbour (89 and Rangers through and through) he showed me a book about Rangers. Apparently you got your name from an English rugby club (your founders liked the name) between 1879 -1883 you played in HOOPS (light blue but still HOOPS)
As I say NOTHING about your club is ORIGINAL
hail hail Timalloy (except your tax debt LOL )

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Celtic were founded in 1888 does that not make Celtic unoriginal? Rangers in fact were the original hoops, you illogical t**t.

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So.. Hoops... i assume yous nicked them from us in 1888 then? Celtic isn't exactly an original word, mate.

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Erm you were founded 1888 and copied our hoops i would presume yah fud

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Well considering rangers were founded 16 years before ur manky club it doesnt take a member of mensa to work out who copied who.... "1879-83" wasnt ur club formed in 1888??

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He he, owned again tim you fud :-)
Nice one logical bear

Baybear

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01 Feb 2012 22:32:21
. Whyte is known for turning round companies that are in distress. What that means is he is an asset stripper. That is what he does, why are we surprised that he is doing this to us.
I firmly believe that Whyte has had one goal since buying Rangers, and that is to put us into administration. I believe that is the only way he can make money. He has sold perhaps our biggest asset on the field and made no attempt to replace him. He is a secured creditor fit the fist £18m. It would be the administrators duty to sell assets, so the players that would attract a fee will be sold first. Perhaps the new contracts for mcgregor, whits and Davis mean that their sale value is likely to be bigger. However the administrator also needs to keep the club running so the sale of Ibrox is not an option, and the question of Murray Park comes into question. Do we need 8 pitches to train, it may be nice to leave Murray Park and shaft DM , leaving him with a training ground with no tenant, that actually has a nice ring about it, cause he should suffer. It costs us £1.4m a year to run and staff Murray Park, seems a lot for an ego trip from our last owner.
If we do not go into admin how is whyte going to make money. If he does as promised, although that would be a first, how is he going to recoup that money, he can't.
However if yesterday story is true and I suspect it is the biggest concern is that we have have bought the club for him.mr w does not seem to be arguing that he has borrowed the money. Let's remember that the week after taking control he collected approx £14m in season ticket payments. So that added to the £24m that he has borrowed means we should be cash rich. Well now sold Jelavic for £5m so should have £43m somewhere. You cannot tell me that the running costs since July have been £43m. So if you didn't use the money to pay off lloyds, show us where it is, easy. I think we all realise where this money has gone and what it was used for.
We must demand answers and if these answers are not forthcoming we need to scale the demos right up and bring this to head

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01 Feb 2012 22:19:17
Whyte bot murrays 85% for 1 pound,alleges to pay clubs debts,raked in over 30 million thats vanished,debts have increased,wish i had put fancy suit on n taken eye candy to games n partid with a pound,easy money without pikin six numbers,the same man that even last year couldent even finance his building work,an oppertunist n wise man shrewd if u like,he stands to make a lot of money for a pound enuf to live on for 7 years perhaps,we can all moan but we only got ourselfes to blame we was told,who has even herd whyte addres fans about anything,n who will take a club on with 50 mil tax case n 46mil operations n debt,n the next four years income a repayment,even if we carry on n say end up 2nd or 1 st n dont qualify then what,how will it change in time for next transfer window,from murray down should hang head in shame

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01 Feb 2012 22:19:11
How can anyone trust CW or even give him any
benefit of the doubt as he has constantly lied and
created smoke screens since day 1.

Players Out:
Bougherra, Weir, Mcmillan, Espling, Bendiksen, fleck,
jelavic, hutton, diouf, shinnie, weiss, foster.

Players In:

Goin, Bocanegra, Aluko, Cellik, Mckay, Bedoya and
wallace

About 3m+ net profit in fees and drop in wages so
no investment from CW.

A loan of 24m taken out against season tickets for
4 years, yet no money to sign players...so where is
this money. Are 24m in debt or 42m, assumin his
18m debt is seperate!

All we can do is make our feelings made to him at games and make sure we get right behind ally and team and hope for a miracle! (yes mccoist has
made mistakes but so did lennon in his first yr and he appears to have learnt a few lessons, so lets ge behind a true legend in mccoist and make ibrox an intimidating place to come again!)

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Lennon was two games away from treble,n bot well in window,n seems to b able to bring players in and could have sold his signings at a decent profit,aggain being backed by his board to make furthet signings,mccoist knows whats happining and if it wasent for situation or wasent mccoist his head would already been axed,he sold his soul to whyte n is partly respobsible,teling me walter n ally dont now is naive,if ally was true to himself he would b gone but as i said he sold his soul and happy to b the puppet or he would of gone with smith,paul le geun n mccoist rrecord very similar,think on peiple,

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You forgot about boyd and miller for players out mate. blue al

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01 Feb 2012 22:06:18
Maybe if Ally had managed to keep Rangers in Europe instead of loseing to two poor teams there might of been money available for more signings but as he never he should take a lookin the mirror to see where the real problem is

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Maybe if whyte has signed somebody we would not have gone out. Remember Boca travelling overnight by car to play as we had nobody else.

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Think the whole problem with that statement is : the rangers board budgeted for CL group stages? Then when knocked out they needed to beg borrow and steal to stay afloat ?

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01 Feb 2012 22:03:20
Ok jellyfish gone. Skint, tax case looming and a skinflint for a chairman. Boohoo!! Haven't we forgot we won 4 nil on Saturday. We sit one point behind the timms or the fact that shagger and Davis etc are still there. Keep the faith and follow follow. Remember we are the people and the club is too big to go under however it needs to be run properly and that means investing in youth as there is no money in Scottish football. there never will be. Sfa won't let rangers go as they need rangers and Celtic as that's what everyone outside Scottish football want to see.

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Mcgregor and davis will follow follow jelavic in the summer..green jhedi

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01 Feb 2012 21:50:01
Celtic fan here, but not on to gloat. Not a financial wizkid or anything, but does it not look like whytes big plan is liquidation. He runs up big loans and stashes the money god knows where, sells prize assets and doesn't replace them, reduces the wage bill any way he can to save himself more money, doesn't pay any NI conts, all the tax bills, possibility of no european football next season. It all points to winding a company up. With transfer fees, season ticket money and future season ticket loan money....whyte would get maybe a £10-12m return on his initial £18m investment, which isn't too bad for a years work. All loans and debts would die with rangers, whyte walks away banned from being a director at any company for 7years(sound familiar) allowing the new rangers to rise from the ashes and back into spl( they would be allowed straight back in because of tv etc) with the only debt being however much they pay the major creditor( from the liquidation) for ibrox, which given it isn't in prime residential land could be very cheap.

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That could never happen.the s.f.a. could not let it happen.a new rangers would have to start in the league below the 3rd division.

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01 Feb 2012 21:44:09
Mr White has come into the club at a bad time and we need someone to tidy this mess up,who ever came in would still have to do the same thing.As for all the ex directors having a pop at Mr White these are the people who put us in this posistion in the first place. A protest at ibrox whats that going to do lets get right behind the team and help the player play for each other.

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And still some ppl don't see the very obvious, how many hints do you need before you realise what Whyte is.

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01 Feb 2012 21:34:05
What's with everyone giving up
The ghost. We are only 1 pt behind
Its not barcelona who's top of our league
We are still good enough to win it
Let's get behind the team.

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Agree , about time we stopped all this crying and get behind our club.
i was here in the late 70s and 80s that was hell , we can rise again.
lets get behind the team.

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01 Feb 2012 21:31:03
"So tell me Einstein, what can us Rangers do to save our club?"

How about having a tombola?

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01 Feb 2012 21:12:55
Okay I know im going to get slaughtered for this but here goes..

So Whyte took out a 35m pound loan using season ticket money, without telling us what it's for, which we are of course mad about.

Then he sells Jela for 5m or so, and does not reinvest. That leaves him with about 40m, where did it go or where is it going ?

I know everyone will say its for Whyte hes a crook etc, but what if it's for the tax bill ? Whyte did say admin is plan C or D. What if plan B is to lose the tax bill, and pay it? I'm sure we would like to be in debt more than admin.

And lastly Whyte isn't exactly going to come out and tell us what the moneys for if it is for the tax bill is he ? If someone was on trial they wouldn't tell the jury they think they are going to be found guilty would they ? Whyte won't want HMRC to know he has the money to pay the bill, or he is preparing to lose it.

So maybe there is a small small chance we are wrong, and he is not a thief, and I know this will get a lot of disagrees but as has been quoted on many occasions, once the tax bill is over, whatever the result is, it will be a lot clearer for everyone involved in the club.

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Interesting theory, I Really don't trust whyte but he could be saving for tax bill and this is why the accounts havent been published yet

J

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Thats what i think he's doing.green jhedi

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I would not bet your money on this, more like he disappears with pockets full, lying barsteward

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I agree with the origional poster i dont think we should hit the panic button just yet im an optimistic bear think about it we sell jela for £5.5million dont see a penny let be realistic here its not going to look good spending money when the tax case result is due soon

Wr_86_rfc

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EDD make this guy an edd, think its the most calm well written, most hopeful, inspiring statement for a gers fan to read. seriously we should all still support our beloved team and make up ur minds of whyte after tax case? we dont all want to slag him off now only for him to be a hero and rub it in our face (cos he is money mad and powermad) im undisided on whether hes good for the club but thanks for ur post and we should all wait till taxcaseday!
TODD88

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01 Feb 2012 21:09:25
I don't really understand why folk are wanting to protest. Do any of you really know if Whyte is doing right or wrong by us? The answer is no. Not really.
Please don't reply with "He lied to us." Sooooooooooooooo petty! He's in charge, it's his job to get us out of this. If he felt the need to tell a couple of fibs then so be it, he was found out and it was a bit embarrassing. We're the fans, it's our job to support the team.
I just can't get over people wanting him to spend money on players! We have no money and what little we do have must be kept or used to pay debts. Plus I think everyone is forgetting the finacial fair play thing-imy-jig that's coming into effect soon. We're spending more than we're bringing in, have done for a long time, this also needs to stop. Fingers crossed we're here long enough fot that to be a problem.

Anyway as some of you may know, as long as we play a 4-3-3 formation this weekend I'll be happy. lol

pappy

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The man is a crook ,no morals and a confirmed liar, he is fleecing the club and then watch him skip of into the sunset

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01 Feb 2012 20:55:25
Why is everyone on here jumping on the press hyped bandwagon? Our young players are going on loan to get them ready for next season if tax case goes wrong. Give whyte a chance. Hope u all come back on here and apologise if whyte proves everyone wrong. RTID

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If you believ that you are a fool

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01 Feb 2012 21:03:27
If Gers fans plan a protest this week will a delegation swing by the BBC building to demonstrate an apology for accusing the Beeb of telling lies about Craig Whyte? Jhimbhoy.

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01 Feb 2012 20:46:36
just a thought lads.... maybe whyte is playing the game, running gers right down, making us appear to be in worse circumstances than we actually are, so that when we lose the tax case[which we will to some extent] then maybe there will be some kind of leniency from hmrc and any other creditors involved.... ie.. maybe we can strike a deal [like arsenal have done] that would save us millions, and we can get out of administration quicker...... as opposed to keeping our top earners... making new signings striving forward as a club that come may, could face a massive debt of liquidation proportions....... dont forget most of us gers fans are average guys that dont understand the comings and goings of rescuing failing buisnesses.... and also mr whyte cant exactly come out and tell gers fans this is his plan...

This guy wasnt born yesterday !! watp

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Wishful thinking mate!
Cb

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That is a cunning plan Baldrick LOL......DH

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..You may be correct mate...things just dont seem to be adding up at the minute Mr Whyte may be a bit smarter than the mhanks are making him out to be..fingers crossed hope he knows what hes doing..

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We were not born yesterday either mate, Whyte is a crook

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You must have been! crying to the tax man wont do a thing.he's gotta strip the whole operation down to a workable financial base and start again.admin is probably a cert,unless he's got a massive trick up his sleeve, 10-25 point deduction and start again. its that or liquidation. what would you choose?

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Yer mostly all doom n gloom merchants that beleive everythin the media tells us... facts are probably only 2 people kno the real truth... lets run with this tax case 1st.. before we all start falling out and creating divisions on the basis of what the media say. we are the plonkers

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01 Feb 2012 20:45:22
I dont understand how mccoist is coming out the hero reality check here mccoist has bot awful with the budget he was given,blew a 15 point lead knoked out of europe qualifiers,out of leauge cup to 1st division team,and as a TEAM we all take our share of the blame,mvcoist also knows alot more than he lets u no,

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McCoist not a hero? What an idiotic comment. He could

With a squad a third the size of our rivals and given the off the park problems, anyone who can maintain that pressure is a hero. Not only that but you challange the fact that the guy is the Best striker ever to play at the club and
Would do anything for Rangers.

A supporter 'supports' that means through thick and thin

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Well i wonder if jelavic was sick on sat? must have been cos ally said so! legend as a player means nothing in management,whats he shown so far? he needs to answer questions as much as anyone.

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And what was he supposed to say: nah course he's no sick, he's just f*cking off? He's in an awful position having to lie to us, regardless of the fact only a halfwit would have believed that rubbish anyway.

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01 Feb 2012 20:43:21
Ally states he is lucky to be manager of Rangers........this man has never quit at anything he has done.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for this man who loves our club.

Those of you who think he should quit are clueless.

He has by far the toughest job any other Rangers manager has ever had. If he pulls it off it really will be a truely fantastic result!

GDof
WATP

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He chucked A Question of Sport

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01 Feb 2012 20:04:33
Alaster johnstone comments has worried me n u no its first time i realised properly,if the season book money is gone,with sale of jelavic thats 30 million pound,and in johnstones words how is the club going to b funded with the primary source of income?,whyte has nearly broke even on what he alleges he paid or just had us for 30 million,self made millionaire by 25,hmmm

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Johnstone and the old board were using
the season ticket money in this way long
before Whyte arrived as many clubs do
he is doing his best to deflect the blame for this mess away from SDM and the old regime
he wasnt that concerned over the tax issue when he was employed by the nor was the rest of the so called worried ex
emplyees.

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01 Feb 2012 20:03:01
Im starting to see this whole fiasco
take on a different shape all together

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01 Feb 2012 19:55:22
Was there a protest? Nothing on news

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2 men ,a wean and a dug !

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No one knows because,no one went,because there was no protest, just another rumour/lie we should all be used to that by now

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01 Feb 2012 19:54:09
to every1 who is on here askin why rangers never enquired about guys like lovenkrands ect the reason is simple WE HAVE NO MONEY! The current situation means teams like hibs can afford guys that we want but cant afford. Us rangers fans must get real and understand that our club is in big big trouble. We should also realise that super ally is trying his best under the most difficult of circumstances so get Off his back. Any other man would probably walked away by now but allys love for rangers means he just cant do that he obviously feels he is the right man to help us through these darkest of times. Super ally i salute you and know you will always do what you think is best for our great club

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If there is no money at all then why did a bid go in for holt of norwich.there must be something there to at least get 1 striker in.

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By wasting money on players then not playing them?

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Its only coz he no chance of gettin back on question of sport,

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As we knew by offering less that a million we had no chance - simples

dannager4life

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Waken up
if that bid was placed
it was placed knowing it would be refused

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Hokt is the captain of a team in first season back in epl doing great n going to sell their captain for half the price n half the wages,wool over eyes n thats y their womnt b a free transfer either NO MONEY SKINT,BRASSIC,DESTITUTE,BOTTOM OF BARREL,STONE BROKE,WIPED OUT,EVEN THE CHEK BOOK DOING THE BOUNCY thats why

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Holt bid probably derisory to ensure we dont get him but look as if were in the market for players

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Or stunt
Gb

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Only a thought here lads but if this million pound bid did go in and was rejected why did,nt they not use a fair percentage of this to pay the wages of a decent loan striker till the end of the season. or as was previously said was it just to be knocked back to make it look like a replacement was being looked at for jela. blue al

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01 Feb 2012 19:53:19
the silence from craig whyte is only fueling everyone imagination.if the man truly has nothing to hide them why to put us straight.i know it is not the done thing to come out and wash your dirty wash in pubic but this has gone far enough,plus we all know that things are bad at the club so he will only be telling us how bad thing really are.i think craig whyte forgets that it is not just his interests that is at being affected but that it is the fans club that is a risk."whyte" may be the owner but it is us who pay our money to go and watch the club,buy merchandise.all this hush,hush just makes everyone think he is up to no go.plus as he is a adventure capitalist he knows how to strip companies of all assets so he loses nothing.TIME FOR SOME HOME TRUTHS!!. GERS4LIFE

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Lol at adventure capitalist... Oh and on the subject of merchandise.... Murray sold that to jjb so thats irelevant... Oh and when you buy a pie and bovrel from the catering Murray sold that an all.... He he ha ha you actually are up the creek without a paddle! Luvin murray and whtyes work

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01 Feb 2012 19:52:01
Whyte has only done one thing wrong... he told us he would spend to improve the team. He has spent, but nothing like what was promised. That aside he is doing what he is good at, turning around a very run down business! The problem is football is seen as a "results" business, at Rangers and Celtic results are a must! People are very angry because we are not buying players, not even loan deals. Whyte will not spend money because he can't, not if he wants to turn Rangers around. It wont happen in a season, it will take a long time so we had better get used to it...
Think of it this way, if you took your wages to the bookies and blew the lot in one bad bet, your wife is not only going to give you a dull one she is only going to feed you beans on toast for a month. No take aways, no beer etc etc so expect Rangers to sell more big players and rely more and more on whatever Murray Park can supply. Not great news but it was always going to be this way once SDM decided to KEEP blowing his wages at the bookies...
BB

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01 Feb 2012 19:50:37
I WILL be protesting at the weekend as I am going to the game. Can anyone tell me how tonights protest went.

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Three men and a dug!

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Is the dug any good. Could offer it a four year deal

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The dug was awrite, fantastic dribbler and a bit of a speed merchant !! Cowdenbeath nicked in at the last moment though and signed him oan a 3 year deal ! 14 tins of winalot and 3 pigs ears a week........we couldny match that kind of offer !

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01 Feb 2012 19:46:51
Rangers should sign free-agent dereck riordan

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Nice idea in theory...............BUT WE HAVE NAE MONEY TO SPEND OAN ANYBODY REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE A FREE TRANSFER OR NOT! Its about time we aw got used to this fact and stop asking "how about this player" and "why dont we sign him" Forget Craig Whyte and get behind the team, whats for us wont go bye us and the kwiker we get it over and done with the better, the leagues still there for the taking and its not just us that are great at blowing 15 point gaps.....is it ? WATP

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01 Feb 2012 19:45:57
1st of all whyte is a conman he has not done anything whatsoever he said he was gona do.
now for our manager he got us put out of europe twice in a space of a month an has now lost a 15 point lead if i was whyte an HAD cash i wouldnt give it to him with the rubbish he has bought bar aluko an the CD i didnt want ally in the 1st place coz didnt think he was up to the job an from what i ave seen this season i am right.

T-Bear finally got my internet sorted an am back!!

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Can you really blame ally wholeheartedly for the exit from europe.the manager had a list of player he wanted in before the champion league started and how many did he get in,a big fat 0,so he had to go with what he had.if even a couple of the players had come in i believe we would have got past malmo,not say we would have got into champions league proper but i know we would still be in the europa league.you must remember allys biggest target the guy juhasz from anderlecht.that was the start of the funny games.we never got him because whyte would not pay the full asking price.he was always trying to get the players for under there value.that is what really cost us this season.

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01 Feb 2012 19:44:20
Brilliant mate and it can be done again that mob are crap and no bottle always remember watp

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Always remember where are the players

always remember where are the points

haha good luck ! whyte is playing the lotto with rangers £1 for a£18m jackpot no bad for a years work

lenny

ps yesterday was transfer deadline day...for rangers fans...it was just tuesday

mind the gap

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Lenny the Masterdebater!

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01 Feb 2012 19:42:33
Obv the situation is sh*te but with the players we've got if we dig in we can still win the league. Only positive I've got is we're used to digging in when the going gets tough and hopefully the players adopt an "us against the world" mentality and we win the league. Below's the team i'd like to see for the run in when players come back from injury.

Shagger
Whitts Goian Boca Wallace
Davis Edu Ness Aluko
Healy Lafferty

Still got the options of Papac, Wylde, Mervan, Little, Mckay, Bedoya and Mculloch.

Not ideal but with the right attitude those players can win the league


F*ck Whyte but all we can do now is shout loud and get behind the team we have.

Rossco Cyprus Bear

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01 Feb 2012 19:31:07
lets be real here u dnt need a superstar team to win the spl .. not the best team we hav ever had but we have enough blue noses in the team to go on and win this league for supper ally ! Watp

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Think allys had enough SUPPERS

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01 Feb 2012 19:11:40
Let me tell you the tale of a Sunday in May, We were two points behind Celtic with one game to play. The tims had been crowing “The title's in the bag, We've won the league again, fly the flag, fly the flag. " They would be taught a lesson they'll always remember, Don't write off the Rangers, we never surrender. We descended on Leith on the 22nd of May, The waiting was over, it was judgment day. With hope in our hearts and trannies in hand, We packed ourselves into the Easter Road stand. The ref blew the whistle, the action began, A wave of excitement swept over the fans. But half an hour in came the news we were dreading, Sutton had scored, for 2nd place we were heading. Soon half-time arrived and the score remained zero, We looked to the heavens and prayed for a hero. The teams re-emerged and the second half started, Not one of our loyal fans had departed. Then all of a sudden - a promising break, Buffel to Novo who made no mistake. 1-0 to Rangers, we were off the mark, Our attentions now turned to events at Fir Park. Celtic were coasting as the minutes ticked by, They sang Championees and the Fields of Athenry. But you and I know there was a sting in the tail, For theirs is a club which is destined to fail. Enter Scott MacDonald with an overhead kick, Douglas is nowhere and Timmy is sick. Their fans were despondent and looked to the skies, But there was no solace there for their tear-stained eyes. For a helicopter was approaching the ground, But it sure wasn't landing, it was turning around. Over on the touchline, O'Neill lost the plot, Astonishingly brilliant, I think not! Soon word reached Leith and the Rangers fans roared, The players on the pitch knew that Motherwell had scored. They kept possession, we awaited more news, Tension gripped all of the red, white & blues. Then two minutes later - a heart-warming sound, Another eruption at our end of the ground. 2-1 to Motherwell and it had to be him, MacDonald again, not bad for a Tim. The final whistle sounded and the copter arrived, This time it was landing with the SPL prize. Strangers hugged strangers up and down the land, As the words KEEP BELIEVING appeared in the stand. The singing began - “Cheer up Marty, Come over to our place, we're having a party. " And over at Ibrox, though minutes had passed, A sea of red, white & blue had amassed. Hundreds of bears lined Edmiston Drive, The team bus arrived and the place came alive. The party continued well into the night, A reward for a season of courage and fight. And I urge fellow bears to take heed of this rhyme, As we find ourselves now in more difficult times. Protest if you must at the current regime, But unite on a Saturday and get behind the team. When you're finding it hard to muster belief, Think back to the day when the sun shone on Leith. Cos like the moon landings and JFK, We'll always remember that Sunday in May. The odds were against us but we won the race, Let the others come after us, we welcome the chase....WATP

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Aye m8,poetry & wee odes will get yous thru thi,pmsl,,,yer last share issue faled,murray moonbeams had too underwrite it himself....24million owed to ticket toutus,plus intrest,lol& 18million whytes shifted about,too try make it vanish,so were now at 42million,even before the big tax case for 36million...its over,fineeto,end game,yet keep beleving ya plum!!!!!!

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Brilliant!

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Those where the days you could pay the like of old Dougie mc and mr Dallas. I wonder where you paying your taxes then?

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Brilliant mate ,you should do the team talk,that is truly inspirational ,i remember that day,a great day in our proud history,i,will always believe,because,I Am A Ranger,many thanks

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Where can i uplift this fine little ditty
to send to a tim
whats more is the pitty

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I know celtic are bottlers but i don`t think they will let that happen this year.i don`t think lennon would have keep any players he think is a bottlers (except samaras) bacause it has happened to then to many times and if lennon does not win the league this year i think his time is up.of course we have to keep up with them which is going to be harder then ever before this season.

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01 Feb 2012 19:07:28
Evening Ostriches well how did your "Mass" protest go, got told the suggestion was everyone walk to Govan holding a lighted candle, but for some reason that idea did not go down too well LOL Timalloy

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Don't want to mix words you Tim Alloy, you're a Masterdebater.

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01 Feb 2012 18:54:09
i am all for rangers bring through youngsters and playing them but i have to question why the boy hutton was given a new contract.he has only played a handful of games and sits on the bench every week becuase we need under 21 players in the squad.he has never really showed any real quality,thats not to say he won't turn out to be a great player but why give the boy a contract if he is not going to be played.it is a waste of money that we don't have plus it is not the best thing for the boy career.

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The boy hutton has never let us down when played, so to suggest he is not good enough is tosh!

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Hutton will turn out one of many good players we have ie Ness Cole Perry just to name a few but Ally needs to give these boys a chance.

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01 Feb 2012 18:33:59
Celtic supporter comes in peace....... Listen guys, just watched the news, and seen the players that use have have left and to be fair it doesn't look too bad! It's the off field stuff that's not great but in time it will get sorted? As long as r&ngers keep the the name use will have a team to support! Do what use have to do to get this guy Whyte out, think it will get worse before better tho!!? Celtic and r&ngers need each other if only for bragging rights...lol
Just now weer all laughin but could make Scottish football even worse? Good luck! ( god that was hard, need to lie down now)

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Fair play man, i'm always as unbaised as possible when it comes to celtic and i give credit where it is due. Tbh i think that we will pull through this and its quite refreshing to see that your being fair.
EKger

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To be honest, Celtic have a far better squad, and if they fail to win a treble then they have missed a massive opportunity.

GovanFR

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Fair play mate thanks. macGER

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Top man,a good Celtic fan who feels our pain,you have restored my faith in humanity,thanks,enjoy your evening sir.

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Im a celtic fan and feel sorry for the rangers its an institution like celtic we bounce off each other wish you all the best hope whyte goes

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01 Feb 2012 18:28:34
I thought an owner has the best interests at heart for the club. Want to win things bring trophys. As it looks like this whyte doesn't care. How hell we gonna win anything with no strikers. Surely mr whyte knows this. Pathetic. Said he was going make club stronger when took over. Lies said going spend 5 mil. Lies..

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Maybe not lies maybe some how circumstances changed.

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01 Feb 2012 18:13:23
people need to get real i was born and raised through 9 in a row so it hurts to see my team in the state it is but be realistic. if u got a letter through the door that said in 2 months due to something the previous occupants have done we may have to take away your house would you
a) buy a big new telly get fitted bathroom and kitchen build an extension do the gardens up?
or b) wait the 2 months until the issue is sorted out then take it from there?
i'm not whytes biggest fan but until the tax case is through i will reserve judgment instead of reading columns from ex employees(Alistair Johnston and the rest) the very same men that put the club i love in the state it is in today. cause in the end this is the mess they created and have a chip on there shoulder after the got told where to go.

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I agree with your post but why did whyte come out with all the b*lls**t of strengthening squad this transfer window. if he told the fans we need to get the wage bill down by sending some players out on loan plus we need to sell one of our star players in order to survive until tax case is resolved, we as fans would probably have accepted this. at least we would have known where we stood. WATP!

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01 Feb 2012 18:11:36
Whyte has been preparing us for administration he's just a sly wee crook and Ally's the one who is having to work with what's left Whyte says Ally's go 30 first team players another LIE his whole attitude is arrogant HE WILL BRING OUR CLUB TO IT'S KNEES THEN WALK AWAY WITH EVERY PENNY HE CAN SQUEEZ OUT OF RANGERS

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01 Feb 2012 18:09:03
Rangers have just signed 2 czechs,,,,blank and provi

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01 Feb 2012 18:07:41
So did the so-called "protest" go ahead?

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01 Feb 2012 18:04:56
Is the rumours true that Super Ally has quit?? To be honest not much of a surprise not going to get very far if he cant get funds to strengthen an already weakened team and as far as the deal for Jelavic is concerned that is surreal why knock back a better offer from West Ham then accept the stupid money offer from Everton...Bout time Mr Whyte gave some answers to questions being asked instead of keeping his mouth shut!!!!!

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01 Feb 2012 17:48:34
If we take in 35m, borrow 24m and sell jelavic for say 3.5 upfront we have a working capital of 62.5m in theory. Now it costs 45m to run the club and Craig has stated he cleared the 18m debt using his own money so where is the missing surplus 17.5m. We certainly didn't spend it on players or lucrative contracts.

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He used the season ticket money for the next 3/4 years to clear the debt.

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I think he may have that money transferred into another account so that when the administrator comes calling he can't get it.

GovanFR

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01 Feb 2012 17:48:07
So,if Rangers go to the wall,worst case ,would Celtic fans be happy winning titles with no Rangers team in the league,and a great reduction in tv revenue,possibly no Champions League slot,due to poor co-efficient,i dont think any decent fan would want that,we all enjoy banter,but i for one would not enjoy my football without the greatest football derby in Europe,the old firm game is unique.God willing this never happens,it would be the death knell for All Scottish Football.

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01 Feb 2012 17:47:17
I have read a lot of supporters views on this forum relating to protesting at Ibrox and I also have my own views, but please dont let the name of your club down if you turn up at Ibrox tonight, please respect the right to protest but also know exactly why you are there. Do you support Ally as manager ? are you against Whyte as chairman ? , do you support the the old board coming out in the press and slating Whyte ?, are you angry that we have not got fresh players in to replace the home grown talent and our top striker . ? Would you be protesting if we were top of the league and had a good run in europe.?emotions and tensions are high amongst our supporters just now but do your club a favour and get your point across peacefully as there will be lots of people out there that would love to see the fans turning against each other. United We Stand . God Bless Rangers.

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Well said mate

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01 Feb 2012 17:37:24
This protest is a bad idea. For starters it won't help or change anything. Everyone just needs to stop believing all rumours and wait and see what happens.

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01 Feb 2012 17:36:58
It's a sad time to be a fan of Rangers FC. We have a Del Boy as head custodian of our club with a chequered business past and as his his tenure as chairman goes on his cloak & dagger dealings get worse.

It would seem that as the tax case reaches conclusion administration seems more realistic. We have to ask ourselves if this was the plan from the offset so Mr Whyte can start Rangers with a clean slate, sell the club to the highest bidder and make a quick buck. This, after all, is how Mr Whyte made his supposed fortune.

After the sale of Jelavic and a number of players shipped out on loan Mr Whyte did not see fit to back Super Ally with a transfer purse. Whilst it's clear the running costs need to be reduced, the outgoing players should surely have made enough of a saving for one addition to the squad? Granted we may still bring in a Bosman but it looks like Mr Whyte has sold Ally and our title aspirations short.

Would anyone blame Ally if he took his managerial reputation into considered and walked before its tarnished by Mr Whyte's shambolic running of our club?

Fans are the life blood of any club and CW is treating us with contempt and a lack of respect - we deserve better, we deserve to know what's going on at our club!

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01 Feb 2012 17:25:06
Could all Rangers supporters please be reminded that all season ticket renewals for 2017-18 are due to be paid in full by 6pm tomorrow (Thursday)........DH

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01 Feb 2012 17:16:46
oh aye even if craig whyte is going to put us to the wall ...who in their right mind would want a club with around a hundred million pounds of debt .....never mind admin ..liquidation is more like the answer ....phoenix club with no debt is only answer ...trouble is who will start it ...craig whyte currently is rightful owner of rangers spl share...any other former directors would have no chance of resurecting the club ....be careful what you wish for ...craig whyte will decide if rangers lives or dies ....only he can save rangers in any capacity ...unless he sells

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01 Feb 2012 17:07:02
How about this team for our next match:
Kelly, Murdoch, Pascazio (Mills, 56), Urquhart, Wilson, Telfer, Aird, Ramsay, Walsh (Roberts, 46), Burrows, Stonie (Dykes, 46)

This is Rangers' under 17 team which beat Partick Thistle 12-1 in the Glasgow Cup the other night. Apparently young Burrows is the next big star.

As for the so-called first team, we must play MacKay, Cellik, Ness (if fit), Hemmings, Wylde.

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Wylde is by far the worst player in our first team squad. He has absolutely no qualities whatsoever.

Steven.

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01 Feb 2012 16:56:13
All rangers fans are reminded that season ticket money for season 16/17 is due by no later than 5pm tonight

My well informed mate who's dog done a crap on murry park training ground said his dog told!!

Well informed dog

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Is it Snowy the dug?

GovanFR

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01 Feb 2012 16:50:14
to all the rangers fans planning protests against craig whyte saying he isn't acting in the best interest of the club because he has not signed any players wasn't it signing players you couldn't afford that got yous in all this mess in the first place maybe he his acting in the best interest of the club saving money to try and keep the club going a few years of sacrifice maybe needed to ensure the long term future of your club

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Buy players sensibly. If he had of brought in 2 or 3 one and a half million pound players at the start of the season he would have more than doubled his mony by now as we would have progressed into the champ league group stages!!

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01 Feb 2012 16:42:39
once again i have to question gordon smiths role at rangers. i thought he was the director of football operations,if so,he should be accepting his role in the transfer shambles.who was scouting the players that arrived? as far as i know john brown and neil murray are in charge of scouting,but would this fall under the remit of smith? you would think mccoist would have the final say on who actually arrives at murray park,but it seems he didnt know exactly who or when these players were coming.is smith,as an ex agent,doing favours to pals and taking players whos agent is friends with smith? who sanctioned the extensions of contracts in financial hard times?there seems to be a rotten core running thru rangers at the moment.more transparency is needed with regard as to who does what.i would class all these questions as football related,so mr smith..........?

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How in name if we man can the buck stop with mr smith, oosuit it better ta help with a solution than finger poinribg,

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01 Feb 2012 16:32:44
Don't know if anyone agrees or not but Murray park has been open for 10 years now! 3 players in ness, Hutton and Wilson are the only people to come through the youth and played with gers/ moved on to bigger clubs. Surely we have to wake up bears, scouting and youth coaches must not be up to standard! There needs to be a shake up right through the ranks, starting at the very top with whyte! We play in a league where we have to be a selling club, but if Murray park is producing no greater than Ortiz there is something far far wrong with this club which is now coming to light! Too many people been getting an easy ride at this club! Would like to say start again but I fear it may be to late!!

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Never heard of a piece of grass producing good footballers, it is good coaches and talent. The coaches are either not good enough or there is no talent. Sandy jardine told me recently that Murray Park costs £1.4m a year to run. I think it is an over the top ego trip for the last spiv, Sir DM. Why we need eight pitches with no reserve team I will never know. The ecwc team in 1972 trained in the albioncar park

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Dont know about you but i would feel a lot more content and have more respect if the club said ok fans our finances are dire we are gonna have to sort it out mean time our youngster will get their chance and if we can we will try recruit free players of a good calibre when we can while we get it sorted please back your club.

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Sell murray park would b more benificial to everyone,young players would have chance at it if it wasent so conditioned,

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Alan Hutton and Charlie Adam another two

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What about Charlie Adam, Chris Burke, (I know he isn't great but has made it) and Allan McGregor. The problem is Rangers youth system identified a problem a few years back, they said they were producing talented footballers but the boys were not developing physically to be footballers. As a result they focused on finding people with the physical capabilities as can be seen with the likes of Wylde, plenty pace but no footballing ability. They are wrong with this strategy they should focus on skill not the physical side, Messi isn't exactly big.

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Sell murray park, why, the only money that would be made is the land, which is in a green belt, so your limited what can be built on the land.

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01 Feb 2012 16:26:57
ED, I was listening to the radio clyde football phone in last night and jim delahunt cut a caller off for saying I think craig whyte is a liar I was a bit confused because whyte hasent been 100 percent truthful and its meant to be a phone in were football fans can have there opinion the caller wasent rude or abusive to jim or any of the panel or towards craig whyte found it a bit puzzling that jim said u have to remember the rules on this show when the caller was only stating what most rangers fans think and that is we've been miss led and lied to by whyte! {Ed014's Note - Stop listening to the shows would be my advice.

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Good advice Ed - Stop listening to the Radio - Why stop there ? Don't read the Papers , Don't watch the Telly - Stay indoors , Shut your eyes , Stick your fingers in your Ears and go Lalalalala ! Maybe it will all go away ! {Ed014's Note - Phone in shows pander the lowest form of intelligent football fans.

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01 Feb 2012 16:26:30
Dear ED001/ED014 I have my serious head on today, and just want to say that all true Rangers supporters should be protesting and asking Whyte all the questions that nobody has asked yet.
I saw ED014 saying media were making most of these stories, but if you are honest, the mainstream media's Silence from the beginning has not helped the loyal Rangers fans.
If good journalism was in place, perhaps Rangers would not have been in this mess to start. Only voices raised were by freelance journalists like RTC who was rubbished for being a Celtic fan, but most of what he predicted has happened.
Rangers, despite what you all think, are NOT Scottish football, you are NOT too big to go under. No other "billionaires" are waiting in the wings to save your club. Only YOU the REAL Rangers fans can save your football club.
We Celtic fans rose up, with the help of genuine businessmen and saved Glasgow Celtic, it is time for Rangers fans to stop bleating and start taking back your club.
I genuinely want you to be there next season, otherwise who else am I going to laugh at? hail hail Timalloy {Ed014's Note - I never said any such thing about the media and if I did that is not what I meant.Stories have been going round for months and it is only now that the media have decided to go with the story,of course they are making the most of it,probably too late though.

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How did the Celtic fans "rise up"? All you lot done was protest outside Celtic park. The takeover of your club would still have taken place whether the Celtic fans protested or not. From what I have been told Celtic were literally a bawhair away from going under until Fergus McCann came in at the 11th and took control of your club.

Rangers, aren't anywhere near going under, not at the moment anyway.

So tell me Einstein, what can us Rangers do to save our club?

TTG

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ED014 not wanting to start argument but at 14.26 on your Rangers banter site part of your reply was "people can blame the media for a witchhunt" sorry but this same media has been complicit in most of Rangers FC shortcomings When your club operated its sectarian No Catholics policy the media (and SFA) were complicit in their silence. Now all the brave journalists who were very cosy with Murray etc.. and being fed little snippets turned a blind eye to all the goings on regarding asking if the club could maintain the big wages and where was this money coming from. The media have always been tools of Rangers Fc so to now say otherwise is laughable. Timalloy {Ed014's Note - I said that people can blame the media for a witch hunt as in Some Rangers fans are blaming them.I didn't say I agreed if you read it right.Do not twist what I said or just pick out bits to suit what ever is racing through your attention seeking head.Why are you bringing up a club policy that has not been used in nearly 30 years.Sectarianism is not part of the thread and you will not be allowed to drag it down to your level.

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ED014, my point was about the media a valid point, see you are the same as everyone else on here, when stuck for a sensible reply throw insults you are doing your self proud goodnight Timalloy
Ps I will be on here tomorrow, will Rangers FC? LOL {Ed014's Note - I never insulted you.All you do is pick over petty little points.You cant deny the press are all over this story now hence making the most of it.I thought Celtic supporters didn't believe what was wrote in papers?.I am sure Ed007 will be pleased to know you are giving them so much praise for their work.Wasn't what he told you enough?

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01 Feb 2012 16:18:01
I'm getting really tired of all the doom sayers on this site day after day. How difficult is it to understand that our club is in a financial mess?

David Murray tried his best over his period of ownership to keep the club on an even keel by repeatedly plowing his own capital into the club. It was only once his own businesses started to struggle that he begun to realise that things had to change. But by then it was too late. The club was already in a terrible state.

Now Craig Whyte has taken over an is inexperienced at running a football club. He has stated on our own website that our operating costs stand at around £45million while our revenue stands at around £35million, now it doesn't take a maths wizz to understand that this isn't good for any business. Let alone a football club with a fickle group of "fans" who want money spent on players regardless of the consequences.

Try and be patient fellow bears. Many fans can't deal with the idea that we might not win the league every single year. Swings and roundabouts is what my father used to say. Yes it is dissappointing but we will come back from this terrible period in our history as we did after the barron period of the early eighties.

Take the "banter" on the chin as I am sure many of you have done on many occassions throughout your years as a Rangers fan. If you are unhappy about where your money is going then don't pay it. I for one will always go and see my team no matter how badly they might be playing or what is happening behind the scenes, providing it is affordable to me.

For the record, I still feel we will win the league, even without Jelavic. I believe that Mervan Celik will turn out to be a great signing, as will a few of our players who have yet to get a chance (Mackay, Bedoya etc). Have faith fellow bears.

I now await the abuse which seems to be custom whenever someone tries to look on the bright side.

BigBear1873

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Must say I am still pretty positive too. Septic aren't exactly world beaters. They only just managed to "win" in the last game at their home - should have been 1-1 anyway.
Diesel

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01 Feb 2012 16:16:44
And we all chip in to make up 50 mil for tax man,45million in operational costs,and another whip round for players,with no season ticket money coming in,fantastic idea,

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I won't be putting a penny in while that crook is in charge

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01 Feb 2012 16:13:34
Will all these so called fans stop shouting for everyone to boycott going to games, what use will that do the club?

I for one am not happy at the way the club is going but let's be honest SDM was the one who put us in this mess and Craig Whtye has been left with it. I'm not saying I'm 100% behind Whyte yet but we need to give him a chance to prove himself.

I do agree that he has to cut cost, slash wages this is common sense if we are running at a loss but personally my view is that there is too much cloak and dagger from him and if he came out and gave some answers then it might cut him some slack and make things clearer to the fans.

What I dont understand is why fans want to stop buying tickets/merchandise etc as this is only going to cause the club more damage.

I say if you want to protest then do it but only outside the ground, don't affect the players when they are playing as they need our 100% support more than ever now.

One thing is do say though is certainly don't stop giving your money to the club because this is the only lifeline it has. We need to do all we can to keep our famous club going no matter what it takes.

The Pilot!

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It's better than sitting on our fat arses.

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I think it is difficult at this time to share everything about the club with supporters you can not let hmrc anti rangers media and others with an anti rangers agenda know private details about the running of the club .time will tell how well Craig whyte has done .please remember we were already in a mess because of the previous board .I am also sick at the number of ex players discrediting the club after having made a good living from it over the years and members of the previous board who caused the mess in the first place now being quoted in the rags

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01 Feb 2012 16:06:26
Ed, please post this! Yes there will be a protest outside ibrox at 6 but everybody must remember it is a PEACEFUL protest! Spread the word...

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01 Feb 2012 15:10:25
Hibs fan here in peace. Worrying time for you guys, never thought i would see Hibs steal a player from Rangers. All the best guys I really hope this whyte nutter does not ruin your club, would kill scottish football.

KK

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01 Feb 2012 15:43:41
just seen this, what has whyte spent the money on?


Trust seek answers from Whyte


Published on Wednesday 1 February 2012 15:18

The Rangers Supporters Trust have asked owner Craig Whyte for clarification on the Ticketus deal which has sparked further speculation about the club's long-term future.

Whyte denied claims he had used a loan secured on future ticket sales to facilitate his takeover in May, which involved paying off a debt of £18million to Lloyds Banking Group.

Gordon Dinnie, chair of the Trust, contacted Whyte urging him to "publicly clarify the situation both for our members as shareholders and the wider Rangers support".

In a statement released on the club's official website the Rangers chairman did admit to borrowing money from Ticketus - a London-based group who allow clubs to borrow money on the strength of future season-ticket sales.

Former Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston, who was opposed to Whyte's takeover, questioned the long-term use of Ticketus and urged the Motherwell-born businessman to explain exactly how he has spent advance season-ticket revenues.

Rangers are waiting on a tax tribunal verdict concerning payments made to staff in benefit trusts and the case could cost the Scottish champions up to £49million - which would almost inevitably see the club go into administration.

A statement on the Trust website read: "On behalf of the board and members of the RST the chairman of the Trust contacted the club chairman on Tuesday evening urging him to publicly clarify the situation both for our members as shareholders and the wider Rangers support.

"Supporters are rightly concerned about the club's financial future with the verdict of the tax case just around the corner and reports of season-ticket revenue being re-mortgaged for the next four years will only heighten fears.

"Supporters have been aware in the past of how Ticketus was used to borrow money against Champions League income which would come into the club later in the season but borrowing on season-ticket money over four years seems to see the club enter dangerous and unchartered waters."

The RST body also raised the issue of Whyte's delay in calling an annual general meeting. Trading in shares in Rangers was suspended last month after a delay in publishing the club's audited accounts.

Copyright PA Sport 2012, All Rights Reserved

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This is the same supporters club that have sat back and done nothing for 6 months

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01 Feb 2012 15:29:56
ed what happens if we go into adminastain do we say in the spl or do we get relageted {Ed001's Note - the likelihood is that the club would receive a points deduction.}

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I always thought it would be administration but I think it could be 3rd division football ed. {Ed014's Note - Every case is looked at individually as far as I know.

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01 Feb 2012 14:56:24
Ally mccoist putting playing boots bk on aint even a laughing matter now. .. I reckon ally wud still do a better job than that healy! That may be the only solution we have to getting some experience up front!

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Why dont we try that strange thing and actually play young players that have been brought through murray park,better than constantly bringing in players that0 are not improving our situation and pick up thousands a week to sit on bench,stand or tryin to ship them out

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01 Feb 2012 14:43:04
surely the owner must have known when he gave whittaker,davis,mcgregor new contracts for more money that the club could not afford it.also does anyone think that everton got jelavic so cheap because they paid up front.also that has happened to the money for the ticket company.

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He gave them new contracts because it is an investment, they can now be sold for more money.

GovanFR

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01 Feb 2012 14:42:50
me and 3 fellow season ticket holders who i work beside are heading straight from work tonight over to ibrox to take part in the protest. I would urge every rangers fan to post news of the protest on facebook twitter ect. we have to show craig whyte that we will not tolerate his lies any longer and that we want answers. Being beaten to players by HIBS is an absolute disgrace and we have to let him know we are becoming the laughing stock of world football. THIS IS NOT ON

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I dont believe u'll do it

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Haha, you are a belter. You're going to give Craig Whyte pelters because you were beaten to a player by hibs.

Why not give him some verbal about the impending insolvency?

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01 Feb 2012 15:06:39
This will be great tonight watching the monkeys going mad I will be there to put it on YouTube .Henke7

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Good to see you are going to a Rangers fans protest.

GovanFR

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01 Feb 2012 15:04:28
Am a celtic man wi no grudges to hold but I cleary remember 1994 and the old boards attituted to their fans, the only way to stop wats happening is to stand up and be counted listen nothing is stronger than fan power so do something to save ur great club instaed of just talking about it.

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01 Feb 2012 14:27:06
i think were not giving ourselves enough credit here, we still have alot of threats attack wise, id take aluko and davis for goalscoring threats over any of the celtic midfield based on the last game, celik might prove to be the same. lafferty usually comes onto a game at the end of the season, when will he be fit again ed? who gives a f*** if we win 1-0 every game, wins a win. need to trust our current squad to push us through, celtic are due to go on a bad streak, keep the faith!

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Are you taken the piss?? Aluko better than James Forrest??? Do you know you people make it feel like Christmas. All over again. In Craig WHYTE we trust.

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Aluko has shown himself to be one of Rangers best players, if he keeps up the form then yes he may well be better than Forrest.

GovanFR

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01 Feb 2012 14:26:33
Ed Do you think that fans are right to protest against Whyte or do you think that they don't realise fully the mess the club are in? {Ed014's Note - If it is peaceful then I can't see any harm in it.It does seem that Whyte has not been 100% truthful.People can blame the media for a witch hunt but he has failed to deliver on most of his promises and it isn't looking good.

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Storm the place, Iranian Embassy style, take no prisoners. Demand that he sign some duds and pay them with more money that the club doesn't have.

You are, after all.....the peepil.

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01 Feb 2012 14:22:34
after seeing the sale of jelavic to everton for £5.5 million and hearing ally mccoist say on the news just a week ago that £6 million was nowhere near that the owner would accept then why was he sold of so small a profit on the £4 million paid.we need answers.to much is happening and all we are hearing is well worded speeches going around the truth.how can the owner now come out and say that he is doing everything to keep rangers on top and winning.he has given up the ghost on winning the league and given all the fans how go to every rangers game and spend there money a right kick in the teeth.he cashies in on 4 years of season ticket money but what incentive is he giving for fan to renew there tickets.he could have waited to the end of the season to sell jelavic and given us a better chance of winning the league and got a far better price on our best asset.

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The jelavic monet was needed for running costs. as for 6m..take agents fees,players fee and tax n that will cut it right down.things are dire,add no european football nxt year n i wonder what the season ticket prices will be?

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01 Feb 2012 14:20:21
So Jelevic didn't play against hibs cause he had a stomache bug!? What another pack of turd! We need to get Captain coco bananas out fast before he sells the tea lady!

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Hey lets not forget allys done plenty lying too...

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01 Feb 2012 14:17:41
We all know that after the transfer closed we only have healy as the only fit striker at ibrox.
Aluko could be an option and possibly mervan.
Worrying times as bartley is currently playing at r.b - square peg in a round hole.
Ed - can a club sign players after the transfer window is closed? {Ed001's Note - free agents can still be signed.}

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01 Feb 2012 14:08:14
Ed is there really a protest the night or is it all hot air... Coz if there is I need to get a train soon like...... macGER {Ed001's Note - if enough people say there will be one, I am sure there will end up being one. I am not sure what people would protest against or what they would hope to achieve though.}

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I agree with you ed... but sitting on our a!se with our fingers crossed is not going to do anything either.. what does whyte think we can do when not if Healy gets injured. do you agree ed. macGER {Ed001's Note - surely there are players in the youth team that can play up front if needed?}

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Players from the youth team.... Well f@ck me sideways that's ok then. NOT ! macGER

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01 Feb 2012 13:58:12
ally wiping the dust of his boots in signing a pay as you play 6 month deal to help the gers upfront problem

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01 Feb 2012 13:45:07
what a bunch of wallowing muppets ...craig whhyte is not to blame for this mess ...it appears to me that whyte is trying to protect rangers assets by securing them by a floating charge ...he is in any eventuality rangers major creditor ...he willl buy the assets from administrator at reduced rates ...then either trade out of administration or set up phoenix company in the event of insolvency ....rangers will still be playing at ibrox for years to come ....the culpable are david murray .and all previous board members...not whyte and his group ...as for mccoist he is not up to the job anyway ..a new dawn is breaking ...

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Have you forgot about the money he got from the season ticket money.where has it gone.we need answers

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We need to realise it is not of whytes making ,he is trying to clear up mess left by other board members stop tearing rangers and each other apart the season isn't over

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01 Feb 2012 13:38:03
So our so called Chairman states in his open letter to the supporters that the club must survive on a creditable basis,yes this makes sense but then he adds we must focus on the development of players,so guess that means the use of Fleck/McMillan/Bendiksen/Perry/Hutton/Wylde/Ness. Well aware that Ness appears to be injury prone and Wylde has had a run in the team with Perry on the odd occasion but we let Fleck/McMillan/Bendiksen and Hutton all go either on loan or some are sold. Surely at the start of the season with the likes of McMillan and Perry already at the club it would have made more sense to use them as part of the defensive area of the team,and perhaps not buy Goian with the likes of Bendiksen and Fleck use them for the area's of the team that Ortiz/Bedoya and Mackay were signed to cover,and then spend that money on bringing in players to cover the one area of the team that was short.

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Your so called chairman dznt pick the team! mccoist is escaping flak cz he was a legend. WAS...he is the manager now he never picked the young players not whyte.

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01 Feb 2012 13:56:03
can we really blame Whyte for not sanctioning deals our manager/scouts arent excatly filling us with confidence, Bedoya, McKay Ortiz how much money did we or are we wasting on these guys and why when Matt McKay was Aussie player of the year can he not get a look in at Ibrox? if he is worse than we have, what is he doing here then !!

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Agreed.whyte is the easy target.mccoist has to answer questions on signings and trialists not to mention youth players never getting picked.

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We had identified loads of targets in the summer but tight whyte made us get the dross in

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01 Feb 2012 13:55:36
McCoist hung out to dry by these con-men running our club how dare they treat a Rangers legend like that - any news coming out of Ibrox?

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Would you trust him with your money? mckay.ortiz,bedoya(who ally spent cash to get early!)

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01 Feb 2012 13:32:07
A bit off good news bears, hayley mcqueen on sky sports news the now, what a goddess!... {Ed014's Note - You better not let Ed007 hear you are eyeing up his woman!

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01 Feb 2012 13:31:25
two protest rallies being held by rangers fans this week, one tonight at 6p.m ibrox and the other at 12 p.m b4 the dundee united game (copy paste and spread the news) ED pls post or help us spread the news of a friendly protest to save Rangers from this con man

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01 Feb 2012 13:27:44
im as gutted as everyone else that we signed nobody but lets be honest.. were a few good players away from being strong enough and most of the off loaded players werent on much.. and the wage bull was too high then aswell ! or would people rather we spent money we never had, again ?? Sundays a big game cos the cup mite be the only thing we can win, the teams bad but lets be honest so is the rest of the league.. lets just see what happens with the tax case and take it from there...

FauldsRFC

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01 Feb 2012 13:25:09
OK enough all you so called rangers supporters i have never read so much s--t in all my days call yourself Teddy's this guy put his cards on the table from day one how much of WE HAVE NO MONEY do you lot of idiots not understand.
i was one who used to go to IBROX when we were getting around 8000 a week through the gates how many of you lot slagging Graig White can say they were their and if it means we have to go back to rebuild then so be it at least we will be RID OF B-----S like you lot at least until it becomes fashionable to support the Gers again.

Last word to real supporters certain daily rags are obviously got a axe to grind so lets stop buying them simple.
WATP

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Well said that man.

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I don't see what the papers done wrong white wouldn't come out and say anything so they told you the trouble you are really in like you have been asking to know or some time

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01 Feb 2012 13:23:51
Ally mccoist will not be leaving Rangers, the man is not a quitter! Never has been. Let's get behind him 100 per cent...........those who want to protest , do so, peacefully. But while you do protest show support for Ally McCoist. He deserves and needs it. Let's win this league. With heart. Forget the posts from the east end. They will need to worry about their own team who are very very average in this awful league. Not world beaters. Far from it, the Spl is wide open. Cmon the rangers. Good luck Ally! 29 years on still number 1!
Very loyal Davie

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He quit Question of Sport didnt he?

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Ally to blame as much as anybody mate.mckay,bedoya,ortiz all his signings and he never plays them. playing side buck stops with him.

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01 Feb 2012 13:11:27
in reply to the guy askin to confirm about the protest, its hard to confirm these things, although i have had alot of texts from friends saying its defo on at 6 tonight. I guess if enough people show up it will happen.

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What is it if enough ppl dont turn up then?

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01 Feb 2012 13:10:31
two protest rallies being held by rangers fans this week, one tonight at 6p.m and the other at 12 p.m b4 the dundee united game (keep this post rolling and spread the news)

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01 Feb 2012 12:52:17
One player in, cellik, 6 out, jela,weir,fleck,hutton,mcmillan and ortiz.. Scary times ahead fellow bears. David murray should hang his head in shame. What happened to "i'll only sell the club to someone with the clubs best interests at heart", we are rangers the most successful club in the world. We deserve better. WHYTE GO NOW!
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Most successful club in the world.
What a load of mince . Were not even close in cups won.
We have won the 2nd most trophys

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Well if you consider that Rangers have the World record for leagues won, (54) and more to come I am sure, and then add all the cups... I am sure you will understand a little better, so away back to the East end of Glasgow you loser. Er 2nd comes to you lot naturely. Three in a row of 2nd.

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Could not have said it better
shotts rfc

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01 Feb 2012 12:42:16
Alexander Hleb has had his contract terminated by Barcelona, could be an option, no fee involved and with all the departures during the window there should be wages freed up to put a package together for him, no a rumour just a thought, what do my fellow bears think?

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Hleb expects at least 30k per week . we could not even go back in for jagger or carlos who expected 7k a week so how can we afford Hleb .

I swear some of our fans live with there heads in the clouds

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Come on give it a break, we couldn't offer jagger 3k a week

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Doubt that buddy hed prob been on 40/60k a week easily id imagine

Wullie

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I think ur a bit simple. Wot sort of wage do u think Hled has been on at Arsenal, Stuttgart and Barcelona the last 7 or 8 years?

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01 Feb 2012 12:40:32
Is there definitely a protest at 6pm at Ibrox tonight guys?

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Most certain that it was a rumour startd by the dark side

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Yea,thousands to attend! stand in the cold to look at a building no-ones in! great move! thatll show em.......

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01 Feb 2012 12:36:41
The best firm of protest - specifically in light of the season tickets revelations - is for as many supporters including season ticket holders to forego their ticket for this weekend's match and SHOW Whyte what will happen for his actions. Supporters who should be inside supporting the team must make the sacrifice to NOT support the team this weekend by instead making a peaceful demonstration outside Ibrox instead. This WILL have a far greater impact and deliver a far more powerful message than being at the game inside the ground. Fans should start to realise there is NO respect for the supporters from CW. He is taking us all for granted as proven by assuming he can loan season ticket sales vases on current volumes for the next four seasons. THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO...let's get Ibrox at least half empty this weekend!

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Dont worry about Ibrox being half empty. The performances on the pitch will soon see to that.

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01 Feb 2012 12:28:41
If Rangers do go to the wall then criag whyte is is playing with fire because there are going to be a lot of angry rangers fans wanting his head


Gersman

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Oooh,nearly a threat there.carefull.........

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01 Feb 2012 12:15:57
I have an idea might be a long shot and may sound stupid lol but see the 200 hundred thousand that went down to manchester? or whoever knows the exact amount? but i calculated that if everyone gave 50 quid then that would total to 10mill, if somebody can second opinion or double check my calculations thenpost cheers. ed? you think this could be possible? watp (Loyal Bear) [>| {Ed001's Note - why not set up a company with the express aim of buying the club out? If you release X amount of shares at a price of, say for instance, £10 each, you can guarantee that people can afford a share. Or look into the Barca model, of it being a club and each fan pays a membership fee each year. Maybe even a bit of both would be better. The yearly membership fee could provide new investment each year to put towards buying players etc. It would probably take a few years to set up, but surely it would be in the long term interests of the club to actually return to being a club owned by the fans?}

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Good idea Loyal Bear.just think what 250000 loyal Bears donating say 4 a week for one year=£52million then say £10 year =£10million.this would need to be done through a reputable organised set up.if only we could get a board of true Rangers Supporters who know how to run companys I:e your Parks or Mccolls not in it for the money and with Our backing how far could we go.rant over.

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01 Feb 2012 12:48:52
I have to date tried to remain objective about Craig Whyte's intentions for the club. I have attempted to believe there was a plan for the good and well being of RFC. January and the last 48 hours have all but destroyed that faith. It is time for supporters to TAKE BACK THE CLUB!

We need a Brian Dempsey figure head. I think most rational Rangers supporters on here will acknowledge how impressive Dempsey was during Celtic's crisis of the '90's. Someone who can lead a peaceful but determined action to force Whyte and thus new Board out. We know there are successful, affluent, Rangers minded business men out there - Park and McColl and Mortimer to mention just three - I am not saying they buy the club but I am saying they lead a challenge from supporters....

As Whyte will not afford us an AGM....

As the Supporters Trusts don't want to lose their cissy tea and biscuit meetings with
the hierarchy...

As there is the suspicion OUR money repaid Lloyds (yes I believe CW could afford a £1.00 to pay Murray but did he pay Lloyds with his money our OUR money)...

As we have not been told who the sole shareholder of Wayvetower is - and who effectively owns RFC - and it's not Whye folks ....

We need to take matters into our own hands 'cause I fear more than ever that this club - our Club - will crumble and the irony could be we crumble without intervention from HMRC.....

We cannot stand back, bitch and moan on forums like here, on phone ins on radio....we need to be pro active and take the fight to the club!

Yes...No!

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01 Feb 2012 12:47:27
bears beware! have you wondered why the record launched an attack on whyte? i have,and here is the reason..king and murray(not david!) are attempting to drive a wedge between fans and owner for their own ends in an attempt to take control during the turmoil.read and listen closely to all you can.tame journos will try and influence proceedings by dropping hints at protests,boycotts etc. keep your eyes and mind open to this. no matter who owns rangers admin is probable unless someone is willing to write off between 50-60m! ask this.do you trust king? do you trust murray? at least whyte stepped up did they?murray is a strange case,took plenty for years and kept quiet until two days before the buy out.financial restraints will hurt rangers but this will happen no matter whos in charge. time to listen closely bears there is plenty at stake.

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Unlike Craig Whyte, Dave King DID give £20 Million of his own cash to the Club....so bear that in mind before suggesting Whyte is being bullied by King and Murray

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There is no proof whyte didnt use his own money to clear the 18m only journo speculation.if he can answer where the ticket advance money gone .fair enough.

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When the club gos tits up will King and P Murray not be banned from having a directorship because they were on the board of Rangers during the 5 year period to which the ruling applies to?

Besides, King is already banned in South Africa and the UK from trading due to his own tax problems.

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Dave Kings in no position to do anything at the moment with his ongoing Tax investigations in SA and nor is anyone able to act on his behalf.

Mark67

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01 Feb 2012 12:15:30
Why do we have an academy and youth team? Waste of time! Jordan Mcmillan spends years getting coached and trained then when he finally gets near the first team we decide we dont want to give him a chance so we'll sell him for peanuts to Dunfermline. How many times will we do this before we learn? Actually blows my mind when you see the sh*te we have in the squad that Whyte and the management would rather flog off our young talent and bring in mercenaries for a few hundred K. Talking about a business plan? Joke! Look at Hibs, bring through young players and sell then for a big profit. How many players have we brought through and sold on for a large fee? Compared to smaller teams than us hardly any. If we have no intention of playing our young hungry lads then stop spending money and get rid of it. Sad thing is if and when the tax case goes against us it'll be the young lads asked to step up to the fold and we'll have sold, loaned or demoralised most of them by then.

Would love to see a fans buyout and the club run properly for the first time in years!

Rossco Cyprus Bear

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Mccoist is the man who wouldnt play him and let him go!!!

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01 Feb 2012 12:03:25
**DOESNT LOOK LIKE A COMPANY THAT SHOULD BE STRUGGLING***

THE DEBT IS 15% OF OUR OVERALL VALUE AND AND IF 50 MIL OF TAX WAS ADDED IT WOULD ONLT BE 49%. These accounts look not bad with cash flow of no concern and us operating ok. what has happened in this time??

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The Rangers Football Club P.L.C.

(the "Club", the "Company" or the "Group")

Final Results

Highlights

* No longer reliant on bank funding

* Turnover at GBP57.2m for 2010/11 was an overall increase of GBP0.9m over the
previous year

* Gate receipts and hospitality sales increased overall by GBP1.3m to GBP27.1m

CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT

When I became the majority shareholder and Chairman of this great football club
in May this year, the sense of honour and privilege I felt was overwhelming.
Those feelings are stronger than ever within me now.

First, I would like to address what matters most to every Rangers fan -
football. In recent years the performance of the players and the football
management team has been quite magnificent and I would suggest their
achievements rank among the Club's greatest.

Three successive League titles, three out of the last four Scottish League
Cups, plus two Scottish Cups and a UEFA Cup Final appearance is extraordinary
by any standard and set the seal on Walter Smith's outstanding second term as
Manager and a truly remarkable managerial career. Every Rangers supporter owes
him an enormous debt of gratitude.

Walter also left the Club in good hands and Ally McCoist, Kenny McDowall and
Ian Durrant are showing the same tremendous drive for success. All of us wish
them - and the players - continuing success this season.

In May, the Club entered a new era both on and off the pitch. Whilst this
Statement covers the 12-month period ending on 31 June 2011, it also affords us
the opportunity to look forward.

I am the first to recognise the contribution that my predecessor as majority
shareholder, Sir David Murray, made to Rangers over 20 years. With any change
in ownership, however, there will be a change in approach and I firmly believe
the changes I have implemented will be in the longer-term interest of the Club,
which must always come first.

We have a new Board. In addition, we have appointed a new Chief Operating
Officer to drive the business forward and take advantage of emerging
opportunities and a Director of Football, whose role is to help Rangers
maximise every opportunity to develop, attract and retain playing talent, as
well as ensure the Club engages productively with football authorities at
domestic and international level.

Perhaps the biggest change that has been effected since the takeover in May has
been the repayment of all bank borrowings. The Club is no longer reliant on
bank funding, nor does any bank control our operations on a daily basis.

I hope fans would share my view that, looking ahead, the Club should do
everything to live within its means and operate on a commercially viable basis.
I firmly believe that is the only sustainable, long-term strategy for Rangers.

Performance on the field has a direct bearing on the Club's business
performance. Participation in the UEFA Champions' League remains important
although increasingly difficult to achieve given the qualification process for
the SPL champions.

During 2010/2011 we qualified for the UEFA Champions' League and played in the
UEFA Europa League. Turnover at GBP57.2m for 2010/11 was an overall increase of GBP
0.9m over the previous year. Gate receipts and hospitality sales increased
overall by GBP1.3m to GBP27.1m, due to the extra European games games, although
there was an overall reduction in season ticket sales, hospitality sales and
sponsorship revenue.

Net operating expenses increased by GBP3.6m to GBP47.5m reflecting increased salary
levels, higher European fixture costs and operational cost increases across the
business.

The Club remains embroiled in historical tax issues with Her Majesty's Revenue
and Customs, primarily the tax tribunal on Employee Benefit Trusts. It has been
a dark cloud hanging over the Club for far too long and any resolution must
enable the Club to move forward.

Rangers has never been short of challenges in recent years and there is no
question there are many challenges ahead for both the Club and Scottish
football in general. However, I am certain that, as a Club, we can rise to
these challenges and deliver success both on and off the pitch. That is what
Rangers is all about.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all supporters who have offered
me so much encouragement. Your support for the Club is inspirational and I can
only promise to ensure that the interests of Rangers and our fans will be at
the heart of everything I do as Chairman.

Craig Whyte, Chairman

Unaudited Consolidated Profit & Loss Account

for the year ended 30 June 2011

2011 2010

GBP'000 GBP'000

Turnover 57,183 56,287

Net operating expenses (47,525) (43,856)

Trading profit / (loss) 9,658 12,431

Amortisation of player registrations (8,412) (7,339)

Operating profit / (loss) 1,246 5,092

Exceptional items:

Gain on disposal of player registrations 4,202 512

Taxation of Discount Option Scheme (3,270) -

Profit / (loss) before interest and taxation 2,178 5,604

Interest payable (2,102) (1,395)

Profit / (loss) on ordinary activities before 76 4,209
taxation

Taxation - -

Profit for the year 76 4,209

Basic and diluted earnings per share 0.07p 3.87p


Basic earnings per share is calculated by dividing the earnings attributable to
ordinary shareholders by the weighted average number of ordinary shares
outstanding during the year.

For diluted earnings per share, the weighted average number of ordinary shares
in issue is adjusted to assume conversion of all dilutive potential ordinary
shares. The Group has 1,200,000 of potential dilutive ordinary shares at 30
June 2011. As the current share price is below the option price, the basic and
diluted earnings per share is the same.

The Directors do not recommend the payment of a dividend (2010: nil).

Unaudited Consolidated Balance Sheet

as at 30 June 2011

2011 2010

GBP'000 GBP'000

FIXED ASSETS

Tangible assets 116,856 118,688

Intangible assets 8,626 11,594

Investments - -

125,482 130,282

CURRENT ASSETS

Stock 2 2

Debtors 5,899 5,640

Cash at bank and in hand 8,893 348

14,794 5,990

CREDITORS

Amounts falling due within one year (49,065) (27,568)

NET CURRENT LIABILITIES (34,271) (21,578)

TOTAL ASSETS LESS CURRENT LIABILITIES 91,211 108,704

CREDITORS

Amounts falling due after more than one year (20,369) (37,938)

NET ASSETS 70,842 70,766

CAPITAL AND RESERVES

Called up share capital 10,879 10,879

Share premium account 120,973 120,973

Capital reserve 9,185 9,185

The Rangers Bond 7,736 7,736

Revaluation reserve 57,207 57,770

Profit & loss account (135,138) (135,777)

SHAREHOLDERS' FUNDS 70,842 70,766


Unaudited Consolidated Cash Flow Statement

for the year ended 30 June 2011

2011 2010

GBP'000 GBP'000

Reconciliation of Operating Profit to

Net Cash Inflow / (Outflow) from Operating Activities

Operating profit 1,246 5,092

Depreciation 2,265 2,416

Amortisation of intangible fixed assets 8,464 7,391

Advance royalty release (1,450) (1,450)

Capital grant release (222) (226)

Loss on disposal of fixed assets 35 27

Decrease in debtors 210 2,262

Increase in creditors 2933 (3,356)

Outflow on termination of discontinued (178) (260)
operations

Net cash inflow from operating activities 13,303 11,896

Cash Flow Statement

Net cash inflow from operating activities 13,303 11,896

Returns on investments and servicing of (1,228) (1,392)
finance

Taxation - -

Capital expenditure and financial investment 948 (6,460)
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November 30, 2011 11:30 ET (16:30 GMT)

Cash inflow before financing 13,023 4,044

Financing (783) (1,328)

Increase in cash 12,240 2,716

Reconciliation of net cash flow to movement in
net debt

Increase in cash 12,240 2,716

Decrease in debt 783 1,328

Movement in net debt in the period 13,023 4,044

Net debt at 1 July 2010 (27,074) (31,118)

Net debt at 30 June 2011 (14,051) (27,074)


The financial information presented above has been extracted from the draft
unaudited report and accounts of the Company for the year to 30 June 2011. The
Company's auditors have not yet finalised their audit report.

The Directors of The Rangers Football Club P.L.C. accept responsibility for
this announcement.



END

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Rangers liquidation value is between £14 and £16 million. No matter how whyte spins it and you choose to believe it, your club is technically insolvent and will be liquidated.

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01 Feb 2012 11:50:25
so much for ur 10m striker ha 5.5m hhahh USE R f***ED haha

bodiebhoy88

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Kenny Miller who went for 300k or so when he was the top scorer in the country and that's with half a season to go and we still won the league... illogical, obsessed mhank.

WATP

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No wonder ur happy coz that the only way u lot will ever win the league you need us to be on our knee and our hand tried
celtic fc always cheated never lost

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Ed why do you put comments like this on? It's not even banter just idiots talking garbage..you prob wnt post it cause I'm a Rangers fan starting to think this is celtics page so they come on and spout nonsense. {Ed014's Note - It's a banter site,some people seem to forget what the site is actually for,if you don't like it don't use it.Opposition fans are always allowed to post as long as it meets our guidelines.We will not be dictated to what, and what doesn't get posted.I will not answer this kind of post again.The site would die with the amount of stupid one line trolling posts we get,we have to delete more posts than we get for the simple reason that a high percentage of posts either repeat what is already posted,add nothing to the thread or are just abusive to other posters.Plus the amount of trolling foul mouth posts that do nothing but call other people unacceptable names.

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Haha he just fukd of coz he didny want to get slated just like commonss did wen he said that celtic will win the league and then jellyfish does the same,lol,stef1967

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A honestly cant wait for use 2 go bust ,,that will b ur whole history down the pan haha no more we r the most successful team in the world haha no more how many times hav use won the league because the answer will b more than use because use will come bk a completley different team hahaTHE FUTURES GREEN AND WHYTE

bodiebhoy88

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01 Feb 2012 11:47:49
Imagine if you will Marks and Spencer’s gets into financial difficulty (not too big a stretch). A new owner purchases the company to steady the ship.

It is expected that he will have to cut costs, and will have to let some key staff go in order to balance the books. However he promises that this will not impact on the quality of the product to the paying customer, and that replacements will be brought in – even if only on a temporary secondment from another food chain.

However, what he does instead is let go the most valuable member of staff, without getting adequate compensation as part of the deal. He fails to bring in any form of replacement for the key member of staff, as a result unskilled workers are left to try and perform jobs that are beyond their talents. From there, the product on the shop floor suffers and far from being the quality M&S brand that they have built up and marketed for years, it is now a shadow of its former self, and is a far more bargain basement product resembling that of Aldi.

The loyal customers of M&S stop shopping there, as they are not getting a product that matches the prices that they are being charged.

Am I getting through to you Mr Whyte? I wont be abandoning my club, but other fans might. If the product on the pitch is suffering greatly due to your failure to bring even the minimum extra players that the squad clearly requires, it will cause some season ticket holders not to renew. All the more worrying when you have borrowed against assumed season ticket sales.

Start running the place as a football club! For someone who is supposedly a smart business man, your strategy thus far has shown nothing but short sighted ineptitude.

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01 Feb 2012 11:47:00
Let me explain this,u have a good job good salery,u buy yourself a 4,000 car,bills being paid food on table,all is well,ur company that employs u makes u redundent,their no money comin in no foid on table kids struggling for essentials,u then offerd 6,000 for your nice 4,000 car what would u do?,and at what point would u buy a new car,i no we all like football but its business firstly then its football,mite b players down but money n bills getting paid,cant have your cake and eat it

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No but I would buy a cheaper car, he had not even done that as he said he would. Do not defend the Charlatan

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What a stupid post! read it 3 times n its nonsense.

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01 Feb 2012 11:41:30
Read all these posts about not going back while Mr Tight is owner/chairman. I would ask all Rangers supporters whoever is in charge, dont think Ali will stay but to get behind the team and let Whyte. Smith, Russell and Ellis know what we think of them.
The man is a crook and to get season ticket money May 6th, then pay the lloyds bill May 9th and not be able to afford a repayment three weeks later? Hows his other business doing, large investments recently. Your a liar Mr Tight and we deserve the truth.

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01 Feb 2012 11:39:48
Sick to death of all the doubters and negative posts....life is too short, think about the boys and girls fighting in afghan , people who are I'll. trust in ally a right back and striker will sign either today or tomorrow, back your team through thick and thin, Murray caused this mess. Let's fight through it like a family! Never mind the east end fools winding us all up. They are a poor poor poor team who have nothing to show for past 3 seasons with no money problems! Fact!

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There is NO players coming in, letnit go mate. I was checking ma phone last night in work every ten minutes hoping for something but it's just not gony happen. We have all been lied to by this con man

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We will all support our team but we don`t have to stand for these crooks taking the club to the cleaners.also where do you think a right back and a striker will come from.the window shut last night and the only players that can be signed are the ones no one wants or can`t get a club.if anyone is signed it is only because "whyte" is now realising that we won`t stand for his "s**t".

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01 Feb 2012 11:39:25
Rangers are £42 million in debt and that is before the 2 tax cases, one which is £24 million and the other at almost £50 million.

It has been revealed that Craig Whyte, has not spent a penny on the club. He purchased Rangers for £1, sold Rangers' fans season tickets for the next 4 years in advance for £24 million, spending £18million of it to pay off the bank. He didn't use any of his own money to pay off Rangers' debt. It was the fans money. Whyte owns 85% of Rangers shares, which he bought for £1, and now does not owe them anything at all.

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Theres no proof he used that money,looks like it,but no proof.

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01 Feb 2012 11:34:28
Team for Sunday
Mcgreggor
Bartley Goian Boca Papac
Aluko Davis Edu Wallace
Bedoya
Healy

Alexander
Perry/Broadfoot
Mckay
Cellick
Hemmings

I think its a Team capable on its day of beating Any team in Scotland players need to step up, also feel theres something to offer on the bench if things arent going our way subs need to be made early if Wylde doesnt start he needs to be brought on at 60mins to use his pace!

Lets concentrate on our current players and manager they still deserve our support to maximum abilty these guys have overshadowed off the feild problems with great succes past seasons. I am a broken man after the goings on at Ibrox the past few weeks and im sure theres a lot in ibrox too the only way out of this is with full bacing of the club by every supporter and if we do we can come out this thing strong the Rangers Family is one of the most important things in all true fans lifes and as brothers we stick together and save our Great Club!
Larky Bear

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Aye lets just bury were heads in the sand. these players are a joke. ally should walk away.

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Start with celik instead of bedoya

JG

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01 Feb 2012 11:30:53
I was willing to give craig sh@@e the benefit until the transfer window shut. but no more. this guy must be got rid of, or we'll end up in an even bigger mess. We must start protesting against this guy, before we don't have a club anymore

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01 Feb 2012 11:29:36
is it just me that thinks whyte has been harshly treated here? rangers are in the middle of a huge financial crisis that means costs must be slashed.if,as we are led to believe whyte did pay 18m himself,then surely there is nothing wrong with taking season ticket money up front from a third party? it may be a risky strategy but having payed 18m for control of a company he has earned the right to run it the way he sees fit?the way david murray has escaped criticism in the media is beyond belief. jim traynor and his sidekick jackson were well known to be pro murray,i think it may well have been traynor who coined the"succulent lamb and finest reds" quote.obviously this story had to be told,but these things were going on in the murray era when all was wonderfull in the rangers garden. debt was rising,the stadium needed upgrading,MIH were accruing huge losses in the financial markets but not one reporter in scotland would question murray.a board of directors were in place,all rangers men we were told,why the silence?might i suggest picking up their cheques and lots of perks was the price of that silence?the media in general in scotland looked the other way,why? now the fans are blaming whyte for the playing side of things,again,why?.ally mccoist appointed his coaching staff and scouting staff so surely this shambles of trialists arriving at breakfast and leaving at lunch is his fault?who recommended them? had mccoist seen them(live or video)? you would think he had the last word on who actually came to murray park. ortiz,mckay,bedoya,all signings ally sayed he was pleased to have,why? he asked whyte to pay money to bring bedoya in early,now he dsnt play him,why?why would ally say he asked for,and wanted,these players then not play them? ask yourself this,would you trust him with any more cash in the austere times rangers are heading into?ally sanctioned another years contract foe david weir,why? no young players? or a manager who wont give youth a chance? huge pay rises for players(mcgregor apart) who hadnt really earned them.so ally must hold up his hands to some of the lack of funds.if whyte really wants to get on-side he needs to come totally clean,asking to boycott papers! he boycotts the BBC but will bank their cheque on sunday! tell the truth and you can save this mr whyte,no more smoke n mirrors,real supporters deserve this.

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Ally is a pure legend.

however hes made 3 mistakes.

should never have gave weir another years contract.

the players he has brought in are very poor

his continuation of walter smiths boring defensive tactics are wrong.

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Whyte treated unfairly?? Are you f****ng serious? It's the fans that have been treated unfairly, we have been lied to since the very beginning. 25 million invested, front loaded with ten to fifteen million, that ring any bells? How much was spent? About a million or so. At the start of the transfer window ally said we wouldn't have to sell to buy, then we had to sell to get players in. Well now five or six have left including our best player with only celik coming in. We have been left with only one fit striker. Even yesterday in the statement which whyte released it said they would be trying till the end of the transfer window to get players in. Still nothing. Whyte didn't pay off the 18 million debt with his own money, he used the season ticket money then had to borrow more on another seasons money. Do you remember what happened to Leeds when they done this? Champions league semi final to league one. We are now in more debt than when whyte took over. And need I remind you when the bank was in charge we spent four million on jelavic. Whyte is a con man and is feeding us all lies lies n more lies. A lot of fans on here including myself were willing to gov whyte a chance, even after the shambles of the summer transfer window. Now I am convinced more than ever he is shafting our club. Pull your head out your a**e and realise what's going on, just about everyone else has ya tube

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Might be a legend but thats no guarantee of a good manager.results are poor and hes got to answer questions.

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We can understand where you are coming from but don`t blame ally for the mess.we all heard the "whyte" interview when he said that £25 million over 5 years investment in the squad and if "NEEDED" extra for the first year to build the squad would be provided.ally had a list of players he wanted and how many did he get 0,because of whyte`s antics,which cost us any european money.when because we where out of europe he had to shop bargin basement.ally is not to blame,(you only get what you pay for).thats the first year over in the transfers market and what has he spent.well so far £3.5 million on transfers this season and he has sold 2 players for a total of £7.3 million (bougy,jelavic) plus £800 grand from adam to liverpool,that is a total of £8.1 million so that is a profit of £4.6 million.the extra player received on new contracts will be off set for this season on the players that have been what go (weir) or sent on loan(ortiz and 3 under 21s).want i want to know is where will the profit be spent or will it go straight into whyte`s pocket to pay for the roof of his house.

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01 Feb 2012 11:29:15
we have been left without any strikers! we dont even have any young strikers as back up. we'll have to deploy the famous levein 5 5 zero formation

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Aye cos lafferty and healy arent strikers they are both worse than a chocolate teapot.

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Healy being the zero?

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01 Feb 2012 11:23:56
Rangers are operating while they are technically insolvent. The debt Rangers have (excluding the big tax bill) is more that what Rangers are worth to liquidate.

The end is nigh.

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01 Feb 2012 11:23:14
can the government not step in and investigate whyte ???????

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Too busy with your financial shenannigans

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01 Feb 2012 11:20:05
We should all get behind Superb Ally. He has done nothing wrong. He is only ONE point behind cfc FFS!

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Then into admin..........minus 10 more points.........possibly another 3 if the game in hand is one...........6 players out............one player in........

4 in a row? My arse!

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It's at least 11 points, administration looms

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01 Feb 2012 11:19:59
With Jelavic Gone and no one else in due to the board refusing to support the manager I’m really hoping this could be Ally’s War Cry to the remaining members of the squad to go and get us 4 in a row. I’m sure Ally won’t walk and the events of yesterday will surely fire him and his team up and they can go out and bring home the silverware and prove all the doubters that without the support of the board he can produce the goods. Looking at the squad after yesterdays in and outs surely our strongest matchday team for the remainder of the season (hoping those that are injured have a quick return and we don’t get any more serious injuries) has to be McGregor, Whittaker, Goian, Bocanegra, Papac, Edu, Davis, Wallace, Aluko, Chelik & Lafferty. Subs Alexander, Healy, McKay, Broadfoot, Bartley, Wylde & Kerkar. If injuries do occur those on the fringes and the youth players need to step up and show us what they are made of as they will play a crucial part in Rangers future.

Its time for everyone to get behind all the players and especially the manger and his team to show Mr Whyte and the rest of the haters that we are Glasgow Rangers and we are indeed Simply The Best even in these torrid times!

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Aye thats just fantastic.

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01 Feb 2012 11:17:25
Mass rally at Ibrox on Saturday @ 12:00

Whyte must listen to the fans!!!!!!!!

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A mass.......... at ibrox..........no.

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01 Feb 2012 11:10:29
In a bid to get the fans off his back, Whyte will give permission to McCoist to give Aluko a long term contract. I think anyway, that's what I would do.

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Ahahh that is brilliant. our 50000 aberdeen reject is our saviour.

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01 Feb 2012 11:09:34
THe time has come for fan action, say what you want about celtic fans but they get things done! us as a fan base need to stand up to this nightmare, even if it hurts our beloved gers in the short term, so dont go to home games dont renew season tickets it pains me to write this but Whyte has to go.ADMINISRATION OR LIQUIDATION CAN IT REALLY BE WORSE THAN HIBS OUTBIDDING US!!

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01 Feb 2012 11:05:30
In the short time Whyte has been involved with Ranhgers he has tarnished our reputation and that of everyone associated with Rangers, so I say it's time for action, mass protests on Sunday for the Cup game then a season ticket holders (and anyone who feels strongly enough) boycott of the Kilmarnock game, this will not greatly effect the club financially, but will send a message to Whyte that we will not allow him to steal our money and further damage OUR CLUB. AngryBear {Ed001's Note - look, let's get this right, all he has done to tarnish the club's reputation is struggle to find the money to pay the bills due to the huge debt the club is in. Is that his fault or Murray's?}

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01 Feb 2012 11:04:59
And yet we are only ONE point behind cfc.

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Not for long

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01 Feb 2012 10:53:41
Better enjoy the feeling of being Champions because i think we are destined for years in the doldrums at the hands of Mr Whyte. Forget league titles for the next few years Rangers will be a team looking to snatch the odd cup at best!

It is apparent that any asset will be sold but the worry is we only have 2 players that could generate any money and lets face it Davis and McGregor will probably be shipped out in the summer, and not for large fees.

I would say realistically
Davis 2.5m
McGregor 3.5m

I would put Naismith on the list as well however who is going to pay a fee for a player who has had cruciate ligament operations on both knees!

Before anyone starts saying they are worth more, they are worth what another club is willing to pay as per the Jelevic situation. Rangers are in a weak bargaining position and everyone knows it.

Another cause for concern is our ageing team, by the end of the season - McCulloch 34 Healy 33 Bocanegra 33 Goian 32 Papac 32

We cant keep loaning Kyle Bartley for ever and it is by no means certain Aluko will decide to stay!

These players will need replaced and it looks like we are shopping in the bargain basement for the forseable future!

Im not even going to start on the tax case!

Rant Over!

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01 Feb 2012 10:34:04
weve been let down again by whyte, jelavic gone, fleck gone wier gone mcmillan gone replaced by 1 player, 1 striker at the club, its time to get this bull$hit caper out the door, whyte has delivered nothing of what he promised, weve been bull$hitted all the way on tacky transfers, stuff being played out in the media like a joke club-bloody farce, we need to stand up and be counted all this lets cheer them on anyway is only helping whyte, he`s lied to us and nodoubt super ally, whyte out
stg

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Absolutley right

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Mccoist shipped out the players not whyte.try n think for yourself!

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01 Feb 2012 10:24:51
Imagine if you will Marks and Spencer’s gets into financial difficulty (not too big a stretch). A new owner purchases the company to steady the ship.

It is expected that he will have to cut costs, and will have to let some key staff go in order to balance the books. However he promises that this will not impact on the quality of the product to the paying customer, and that replacements will be brought in – even if only on a temporary secondment from another food chain.

However, what he does instead is let go the most valuable member of staff, without getting adequate compensation as part of the deal. He fails to bring in any form of replacement for the key member of staff, as a result unskilled workers are left to try and perform jobs that are beyond their talents. From there, the product on the shop floor suffers and far from being the quality M&S brand that they have built up and marketed for years, it is now a shadow of its former self, and is a far more bargain basement product resembling that of Aldi.

The loyal customers of M&S stop shopping there, as they are not getting a product that matches the prices that they are being charged.

Am I getting through to you Mr Whyte? I wont be abandoning my club, but other fans might. If the product on the pitch is suffering greatly due to your failure to bring even the minimum extra players that the squad clearly requires, it will cause some season ticket holders not to renew. All the more worrying when you have borrowed against assumed season ticket sales.

Start running the place as a football club! For someone who is supposedly a smart business man, your strategy thus far has shown nothing but short sighted ineptitude.

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01 Feb 2012 09:50:22
so after all the waiting its been proved whytes agenda. jelavic away nobody in, boyd has went to portland timbers what a move for him considering he carries a wee bit of timber. i hear the wages are 1.4 million a year just think of all those all u can eat diners he can attend to for that. he will come back 30 stone. {Ed001's Note - could his agenda possibly be to reduce outgoings because the club is running at a loss??? What is wrong with people? You have to accept short term pain if the club is going to survive for the long term.}

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Ed - COME ON if you cut off your foot you can't walk - better economy(belt tightening) is buying shoes at at less cost, - not chopping off one of your legs & buying one shoe! {Ed001's Note - but what happens if you can't afford cheaper shoes? Sometimes you just have to go barefooted.}

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Ed001: your banging your head off a wall mate! fans acting like sheep n very little thoughts of there own. {Ed001's Note - it is difficult to accept for people. On every site it is the same, they all think the answer to everything is to throw money at big name players.}

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01 Feb 2012 09:47:17
Hate to say this, but thinks its getting very close to,

back the team -SACK THE BOARD!!

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01 Feb 2012 09:38:20
One way to sort this mess out is don't give anymore money to rangers, any money recieved is only filling whytes pockets, don't buy anymore mechandise, tickets... nothing.
It couldn't make things worse as we would be better going to administration just now before things really hit rock bottom, take the 10 point hit and move on and get rid of the owner/administrator that we have.
We have only served as an adreniline rush for whyte getting high on his power to do what ever he wishes, we would have been better folding as this is a long slow cancerous death, and we are being lied to repeatedly and kept in the dark always.
whyte has done nothing but move the debt from A-B and Rangers now owe him the money instead of the bank and to be quite honest a 4 year old could have taken over the club and ran it into the ground as well as him.
It is very obvious whyte is only in place to take the hit on the tax case so as to avoid paying the tax fees and put the club into admin as he will be owed more money than the tax men and will be the main creditor to the club so will be paid out first and the tax men get nothing or little, and in the mean time everyone has to suffer.
Ally has been slated over this period and this is a shame because their is nothing he or anyone else can do till you have someone willing to speculate to accumulate.
We were the people and can be again, stand up and speak up. {Ed001's Note - if you don't put money in, then the club really will die! Where the hell will the adminstrators get money from to pay off the debts without the fans?}

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01 Feb 2012 09:36:34
You Know as a Celtic fan today has made me realise something which I didn't think I would ever feel and that is pity for the mess that man whyte has made of your club. I thought the revelations which appeared in the press today would have made me feel more excited and enthusiastic than ever, but you know what they never. In some ways I'm not even interested in whats likely to come out later today. It actually makes me nervous for the whole of scottish football and makes me wonder where our game is going to end up. Your club has cheated the system in a massive way but at the end of the the day all the clubs are going to pay a heavy price for It financially and Craig Whyte has made the prospect of a quick turnaround all the more difficult with his short tenure of the club putting you on the brink of LIQUIDATION as oppossed to administation which would have been at worst a points deduction. Liquidation brings a whole new concept to the situation and spells a difficult time for Scottish football as a whole. If A. Johnsons grasp of the situation puts you somewhere in the region of £42M in debt now, what possible chance have you got if and by all account going by his interview today and the tone of his voice you lose the tax case which I get the feeling he knows you have there will be no RFC. Liquidation is the only outcome from that scenario where does that leave the game in our country. SDM has alot to answer for but Whyte has taken the club further into the abyss than they ever had to be. Lloyds sanctioned the Jelavic transfer despite the debt which tells you that although the debt was there they were not overlly concerned that it couldn't be repaid. Whyte has spent next to nothing and increased the debt 3 fold in 7 months, need I say any more. The worst of It is that he's already spent the season ticket money for years to come so boycotts etc are a waste of time It only makes the situation worse. I just hope there is a Knight in shining armour out there cause its the only chance Scottish football has.I just wonder how many of you lot would feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot, maybe thats what makes us different.

Mark67 {Ed001's Note - why are you all so intent on blaming Whyte? Murray mortgaged the season tickets, Murray put the club in huge debt, Murray failed to pay HMRC etc etc. It is far too early to know whether Whyte is a good thing or not, but he certainly is not at blame yet. Even City's oil sheikh would struggle to save Rangers right now, but the first thing any businessman would do is put off all the bills for as long as possible. Whyte has done that. The second thing to do is to reduce outgoings, reducing staff wages as a part of that. Again Whyte is doing that. So far he has yet to show any signs of doing anything that isn't standard business operating practice.}

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He's put the club in more debt than they were when Lloyds were running the show, do you think they would have sanctioned running the the debt to 42M which it is at the moment and with no capital to run on a day to day basis your as bad as the rest of the ostriches. The guys a crook and he's sold scottish football down the river.

Mark67

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Don't get me wrong Ed, Murray made a complete mess of things in terms of the EBT and the debt but He wasn't running the show at the end of the day the bank was and the debt was managable. Who in their right mind would mortgage the next 3-4 years of season ticket money in order to get the club by. Johnson said the most they ever borrowed was 5M and that was repaid within 6 Mnths. And as for the wage bill, Whyte increased the wage bill after the first transfer window then obviously realised when Europe was out the window the wage bill was not sustainable on the income that was coming in. Remember the renewed contracts etc and the 6 or so signings, who of any note left the club in the summer transfer window to reduce the wage bill that was already by whytes own admission 10M over what It should have been.???????????Businessman my Ar*e, Conman< you decide,Murrray sold the club cause the bank wanted out and whyte was the only one interested, makes you wonder why when theres alot more businessmen out there who could have stepped in had they seen an oppportunity. The bottom line is there was no opportunity to make money and keep the club afloat. If RFC lose the tax case they will go into Liquidation thanks to the increase in debt accrued by Whyte in the last 7 Mnths.

Mark67

Mark67 {Ed001's Note - the problem was that the wage bill was increased in expectation of players being sold to reduce it again. He gambled on it, hence the stories of bids in for players, it was to try and stir up interest in them so they would get bids.}

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Seems to me he gambled on quite alot EUROPE sale of players but at what cost to the rest of the Scottish clubs, he's not only taken Rangers for a ride he's Gambled on the future of the whole of Scottish football. Time will tell but I have a feeling the repercutions of Craig Whyte s takeover will be death Knell to Scottish Football as a Whole and It may be that many clubs other than Rangers will feel the affects for years to come If they are still in exsistence.

Mark67

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01 Feb 2012 09:36:29
At this rate of going we will soon be saying WE ARE THE PERSON

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Haha that's funny am stealing that

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01 Feb 2012 09:28:43
its all good and well us gers fans saying get whyte out but then who's left to pick up the pieces. nobody is prepared to come in and save this sinking ship. millions of rangers fans around the world yet no one prepared to come and rescue us. i wish to god i had the money!

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01 Feb 2012 09:23:07
After having the day off and watching the transfer deadline day all day hoping we would bring in at least 1 new player to give the team a bit of freshness i was greatly disapointed but i dont think any1 can say they didnt see this coming! Fellow bears i dont like to say it but this looks like its going to be a very long 2nd half of the season. We have sold the only player that gave us hope of getting goals since naisy was injured! What now will healy start knocking the goals away? All the fans have been played like fools and i for one am not happy at the running of the team how are we going to earn champions leauge football to gain money for the club when we sell our best players and dont bring in ANY replacement. #notaconfidentbear

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Sorry to disappoint you more mate but its going to be a long two or three years

JG

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01 Feb 2012 09:21:24
Cant understand this one fellow bears, West Ham have a bid of around £7 million rejected as its not enough then he signs for Everton for £5.5 million or am i missing something.

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More up front from everton so that whyte can book his holidays for the summer

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Yes, you're missing a brain. West Ham DID NOT make a bid for Jelavic.

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Could be everton offered more money up front than west ham

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01 Feb 2012 09:19:43
League over, years of domination........Happy Days!

Miko x

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From the bottle merchants! Haha i think not ya donk!

Raab

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01 Feb 2012 09:17:38
Percy's, will Jelavic still get his league winners medal he won in November?

Miko x

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Kenny got one. its not over yet pudding

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01 Feb 2012 09:16:58
Aw well lads no1 in the door last minute but f*** it I'll be there supporting the team hoping an praying after all it's 11v 11 an time for the boys we have to step up a few gears coz they have been slacking. WATP JOHNa GVNfrt

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01 Feb 2012 09:16:01
It says on the conspiracy page the world is ending on the 21st of Dec, you would think it has ended on 1st of Feb the way people are going on, its a football club get over it, worst case is 3rd division, 3 years of pain and we will be back, I'm surprised no one knew what Mr tight was up to, who buys a club with a 49 million tax case hanging over them? Anyone with any sense knew this day was coming, to many fans have done nothing and its the so called REAL FANS I blame, when anyone questioned whyte on here we weren't real fans, so what is a real fan? Someone who let's a chairman piss on them or the ones who were right all along?

The gers grim reaper

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Maybe whyte is a believer of the world is going to end in december so he isnt investing in anything haha Possible
TODD88

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01 Feb 2012 09:15:07
Right Mr Whyte time for some answers.

1. If you have a plan to clear the existing £10m "black hole" then let us know. Is it a short term plan or a long term plan?
2. Will be no longer be in the market for players whilst we are on this recovery plan?
3. Are the current players in the squad likely to be sold in the next transfer window?
4. With Jelavic gone for £5.5m does that mean we only need to cover the other £4.5m this year?
5. With Jelavic & Weir gone that means in a years time we will be paying £2-£2.5m less in wages so does this mean next years "black hole" becomes £7.5-£8m?
6. If we have no debt at the club then what has happened to the money that would have been spent to "service" the previous debt( prob around £3-£4m per year).
7. If you have taken advance payment on the next few years season ticket money then where did this money go?
8. If euro competition money is not included in the operating costs what happened to the money from the Malmo game(att 28, 828) & the Maribor game (att 32,223)?

Finally are we seriously saying that we are paying more in wages to the current crop of players when only 3 years ago our squad included Cuellar, Mendes,Ferguson, Hemdani,Thomson, Boyd, Miller, Novo, Darcheville & Bougherra? Surely if this is the case then something more is far wrong and who is authorising the wage structure?

I for one am extremely upset at the way in which the club is going but if you can give answers to what the plan ahead is then this may be hard to take but at least we will know the what is going on. We as fans are putting up our hard earned cash to watch a poor team, but we are still supporting, but the disappointing fact is that we are being kept in the dark and possibly lied to.

We need answers and FAST!

The Pilot! {Ed001's Note - you do realise that when a player leaves, unless they hand in a written transfer request beforehand (which is why Torres was told to do so at Liverpool) they get paid a loyalty bonus, which amounts to a percentage of their current wages. So please don't think that the club will receive every penny of a transfer fee, agents' and solicitors' fees also have to be paid.}

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01 Feb 2012 09:02:41
I really think it is time for us Rangers fans to stand up, and stand out against this charlatan that is destroying our club. He has promised the earth and delivered nothing, and in the meantime he is slowly but surely creaming all he can from the top. Players out, wages freed, one player in, money from mortgaged off season ticket sales, he has duped us time and time again. And every time he just uses the jedi mind trick equivalent of the shaggy number 'it wasn't me'. Its always a media spin, or a media storm. But the truth is the man is ruining our club. And I for one, will not be buying a ticket this sunday, and will not renew my season ticket for next year. I do believe in Ally, and I love my football team, but you cannot ask fans to plough money in, to watch substandard football every week, with no prospect of seeing any new excitement in the future. The only way we will ever progress now is if we get rid of whyte! CRAIG WHYTE, GET OUT OF IBROX WHILE YOU CAN, BECAUSE IF YOU LET US SINK IT'LL BE THE LYNCH MOB. {Ed001's Note - are you for real? How else do you reduce a debt if you don't reduce running costs? The club runs at a huge loss, if costs aren't reduced it will disappear. That means players have to go.}

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The administrators would run the club better than sh1tehawks whyte....trueblue.... {Ed001's Note - how do you figure that out? They wouldn't bring in any players, free agents or not, that would be a definite. They would sell every player they got a reasonable offer for, without questioning if they are needed for the rest of the season. They would negotiate more time to pay bills etc. Seems to me there would be very little difference, because Rangers are already in that much trouble they are having to suffer drastic measures.}

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ED .. With all the cost cutting that has been taking place .. Squad reduced to a ridiculously small size and players brought in who should not be on a large salary .. how can we STILL be losing money. Campare our squad and wage bill to the mhob across the city ! They have about 4 players for every position and some to spare .. are they really raking in SO much more money every year (with or without Europe) that they can make a profit while we are making losses of millions year on year? NOTHING LEFT TO CUT! {Ed001's Note - because they weren't forced into huge amounts of debt by a previous owner. Murray has mortgaged everything he could and left the club in an extremely perilous position. Until some of the burden of debt is removed, the club is in serious trouble. But it is difficult to raise the cash to pay down the debt while having to make the payments on it. Especially when there is nothing left to mortgage! It is a similar position to the one Liverpool were in under Gillett and Hicks, the income is less than the outgoings, so debt just grows.}

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01 Feb 2012 08:58:43
We are all disappointed that no new players were brought in but after all the crazyness of January anyone remains in any doubt here is the crucial point as stated by the owner yesterday

As it stands at the moment Rangers has operating costs of approximately £45 million a year and revenues of around £35million

we have to move on from this mindset that you have to keep spending more and more money - that's what got this Club into financial trouble before. We have to live within our means

Does anybody still not understand the issue??

JG

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Yes my six year old son knows that, but why after eight months of due dilligance did whyte not know that. Why did he make promises that he has not kept ?

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Rangers fans we were getting a rich guy in who would invest some cash & support the team- with "5 million then up to 25 million "over 5 years. This has not happened and the fans feel "duped" - understandably so!

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01 Feb 2012 08:52:47
W - We
A - Are
T- Terribly
P- Poor

Pedro Sanchez

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W - We
A - Aren't
T - Tax
P - Payers

Jungle Bhoy

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01 Feb 2012 08:48:42
Like most folks reading this, I only want whats best for Rangers. With that in mind, and trying to put a positive spin on things, you have ti imagaine NO ONE could be as daft as Whyte looks just now... Murray ran the place into the ground! No, I did not complain at the time because I assumed that the man knew what he was doing. He was one of the UK's top business men and it was natural to assume he was on the ball. Obviously he was not! The man has dug us a BIG hole. One I hope Whyte is now doing the hard work in getting us out of. It does not matter who or what you are, if you have no money and a sh*it load of bills you cut back. You cut costs, stop spending and work your way out of it. Running a football club well means only one thing to the supporter in the stand, winning. If your Rangers, or Celtic for that matter, it means winning a lot! That is a feeling we will have to accept will be harder to achieve for the next few years. But if it means the club pull through and get back onto a sound footing, I'm in! By the way, if we WERE to win the league this season... WHAT a feeling that would be! Let's get behind Ally and help the man get through with what he's got
BB

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I agree with your post but on the other hand like thousands of other bears we were expecting a striker to come in even a loan or a freebie.
When you look at the wages we have freed up surely that was possible.
Alexcee

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01 Feb 2012 08:47:09
Towards the end of the Murray regime, fans displayed banners such as "No Boyd, No Goals, No Title" and "We Deserve Better". We have been extremely tolerant of Whyte since he arrived. We need to start making it clear we will not put up with this any longer. Our Club is sliding to oblivion ... only the fans who actually love this Club can save it.

Starting on Sunday ... let's make it clear that WE are Rangers Football Club.

Surely there must be enough high profile people out there who dont want to see our Club die? Ex players such as Hateley or Johnstone. We need someone to take the lead and make contact with high profile businessmen (Paul Murray, Jim McColl, Donald Park, etc) who would pull together their resources and create a consortium to save our club!

There must be enough ex players who claim to love our club and have made a good living from being an "ex Rangers player" who would be willing to come together and make a stand against Whyte and the way the club is being run to extinction!

The other mhob were vocal in their campaign to rid their club of their board before McCann saved them at the 11th hour.

I fear we are beyond the 11th hour .. and there is no one on the horizon to save Glasgow Rangers!

Remember .. you are a Ranger for life. Rangers are in your heart, in your blood and in your veins.

If we have to stand outside Ibrox on Sunday at full time .. let's do it and let's make ourselves heard.

No One Likes Us ..! So we have to come together and Save Ourselves. We cant rely on someone else doing it for us.

RTID! {Ed001's Note - I am sorry, but I just don't understand what you all expected? You knew the club was deeply in financial trouble, since Whyte has taken over you have seen even more financial mismanagement, on the part of the previous regime, come to light. Don't you think it is a good thing that Rangers have not brought in players? Not just that but also got as many highly paid staff off the books as possible to lower the wage bill. The club is in a belt tightening situation, costs have to be lowered, you can't do that by bringing in highly paid players willy nilly.}

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01 Feb 2012 08:40:41
Being a rangers fan on transfer deadline day is like forgetting your lunch money at school... you are sent to the back of the queue and you get what's leftover... or in this case, you go hungry and have to give your favourite toy to the bully to stop him/her (I'm not sexist lol) beating you up.

I don't blame Ali (I hope he doesn't walk, as who on earth would take the job), but the title will be over by the end of February, then we get hit with the tax case in March, so possibly (probably) administration looms after that, no european football, no money for new players, no title, and a charlatan running the club.

I hope I am wrong....

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01 Feb 2012 08:30:42
Team for Sunday:

McGregor

Bartley
Goian
Boca
Papac

Aluko
Davis
Edu
Wallace

Healy
Kerkar

Now before anyone says anything...Kerkar has been brought on in last two home games and has been used as a striker, I think he deserves a start!

Times are hard, we need people to step up and play!

No matter how hard times are we must all follow in the footsteps of our team!

BazzaBear

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There is also Celik (Mervan)!

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01 Feb 2012 08:19:29
If the administration rumours are true what's the point in signing anyone?

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01 Feb 2012 07:47:33
So yet again Whyte is nothing but a let down. To add insult to injury hes sold the season tickets for the next four years for HIS benefit. i say let your feet do the talking. i wont renew my season ticket whilst Whyte destroys OUR club.
hes a sneaky, rotten, two faced lying scumbag!
WATP - Whyte Again Talking Pish! {Ed001's Note - did he though? He used a system already in place from the previous regime. Why are you screaming at him and not Murray?}

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The scheme was in place to borrow a relatively small amount of a short period of time and paid back immediately when enough money from season tickets came in. The scheme was never used to mortgage years of ST in advance and for such a high amount in one go.

That is why no one is screaming at Murray. It is whyte who has severely exploited the scheme.

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01 Feb 2012 07:44:37
All fans should go on to the BBC website & listen to what RFC's former Chairman Alistair Johnston has to say.
We need to ask CW what he has done with the cash the £24.4million from Ticketus- this is Ranger's fans money (not his), what interest we are paying for what should be a short term loan-not a way to finance the club's running costs.... like buying your food on Visa credit cards.
Also how will we be able to run the club NEXT year and the year after etc...when the normal revenue -season & match day ticket sales - is being used to pay off Ticketus - which is as far as I can see the business equivalent of "Wonga" the pay day loan company!
Mr Johnston admitted to using Ticketus but only for short periods of time at the end of the season while wating for season ticket sales to kick in- as you will see Wonga charge c1725% for their loans how much do Ticketus charge?
Finally, may be CW doesn't think as far ahead as next year - does he know something you & I don't as he is showing no sign of planning for the future as all businesses MUST.
We await answers to this & also why so many players are sent out on loan - Fleck, Hutton, Ortiz, (possibly more) as well as Jelavic & MacMillan sales & yet when we need strengthened NO players are brought in?
THAT is business suicide! {Ed001's Note - I think the question needs to be asked just how much of the 24million was prior to Whyte and how much post-Whyte. Considering it has been said that the credit line was already in use before he took over, and that it is said he had to pay back a lump sum to Ticketus for previous years' borrowings. I think people need to calm down and stop screaming about Whyte's failings and actually look at it properly. This was set up by Murray, yes it is a stupid way to run a business, but Murray is the one that did it, so why not ask him where the money went first? How many years had he been using the system? Why did he let it get so bad?}

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ED001 are you related to Tyghtie whyte because all i see is you sticking up for him and blaming Murray. A bid national lottery ticket also has to be pointed at whyte.

Ian {Ed001's Note - perhaps it is because I can see that you are all blaming the wrong man! It is Murray that has caused all the problems, but you are all too busy blaming Whyte. He is using the standard operating practice to rescue a business. Whether it will be enough is the real worry. It certainly won't be enough if all the fans turn on the club and stop going to the games. Whyte might very well turn out to be a crook, he might shaft you completely, but right now there is no way he is doing that. I just think some of you fail to realise just how much trouble the club was in when he took it over.}

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Well ed according to AJ it was only used as a short term solution specifically until other revenues kicked in - you suggest that may be this had accumulated? - if so you are right we need to look at that. {Ed001's Note - I believe that is the issue at hand. The club had mortgaged or sold everything, bar playing staff, of value. So there was no revenue to kick in, due to it already being promised to make mortgage and debt repayments. The club is on the verge of collapse, not admin, but complete dissolution, you are already going through the same process that admin would place you in. If this doesn't work, then I am afraid your only hope is that a man with cash assets, not paper assets, steps in and rescues the club.}

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01 Feb 2012 07:37:51
I'm a Celtic fan but feel the need to comment on the situation.

Whyte is a venture capitalist therefore if he needs to he will strip rangers of all their assets, so far he hasn't. He has went into a club and sold one of their 'assets' which tbh is an absolute dud anyway. It was David Murray that allowed the club to get into the mess its in by years of cheating the tax man and VAT man. Then all the 'real' rangers men that have been removed by Whyte, well they stood idly by taking £200k salaries knowing the club was screwed. David Murray pulled off master strokes in selling cuellar (mediocre) and Hutton (complete and utter dud that's injured more often than Hargreaves) for mega bucks and rather than pay off some debt spends it again. Where is the business sense? He has screwed you.

Mccoist has been given some backing from Whyte, which some may say isn't enough but surely that's the point...there's no money there. His signings have been, by the majority, terrible...Ortiz, Bedoya, McKay, Bartley (another premiership starlet - he never got a game for the one team in England that is notorious for playing his youngsters in the league cup) and I would even say Goian! Never mention the new contracts given to Whittaker, McGregor and the one which he must have over seen last year...Davie Weir. Cash in on Whittaker - he is s**t, McGregor - makes too many mistakes and Alexander is a decent keeper - I know i'd rather have my club stay afloat rather than having two decent keepers (especially one that has just got a new contract and not kicked his own arse) and Weir, as club captain, should have done the decent thing an walked before pushed. He was past it and sat taking money for nothing.

Whyte remind me of Fergus McCann, shrewd and biding his time. He won't invest anything else until he can see the big scale and that's gonna be after the tax case. I agree he is pulling the wool over people's eyes but I think he is trying to prevent a mass riot (which we know you are famous for). He is trying to put a football club back on track and become a business that is breaking even or, hopefully for him, profitable.

He is making no money just now, do you think he is happy at that? A man that was a multi millionaire by 25 is nobodies fool so give him time. So far in my eyes he has been the only one that's started to put the club on the right road. Mccoist's signing haven't, and as far as the boy jagaaer (however you spell it) who says he is good enough for rangers?

Rangers need 4/5 players - a left winger, a right winger, one or two strikers and a right back - that are starters not more squad players that aren't gonna improve the team instantly so why invest? Would you rather see Rangers United or Glasgow Rangers?

All you are going through is gonna be the biscuit tin mentality - thank God for that philosophy! Celtic wouldn't be where they are now without it.

As regard the VAT, tax and PAYE he hasn't paid since he took over...why would he? They owe two debts for each area effectively...pre Whyte and post Whyte. Either way they can't afford the debt so of Whyte owes in missed payments for talking sake £3m and Murray owed £20m he is surely thinking well if I don't pay I'm keeping the club afloat and if I do pay then it's like throwing a dingy off the titanic!

The problem is the majority of rangers fans, like Celtic, are narrow minded, stupid and ignorant and don't understand these things.

Give Whyte a chance cause he was the only one out there that was willing to take the risk. You gave Murray long enough to royally shaft you and seemingly walk away without a mark against his name!

Hopefully you'll post this.

P33 PEZ(nothing derogatory just my user name which is also my private reg)

Cheers and good luck.

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Fair comment here with a lot of logic. You can't have it both ways; get stability and back on an even financial keel and at the same time buy players, especially expensive ones.

I have aside before - scouting Europe youth players and other continents combined with top class "coaching" of our current youth squad is at least a short to medium term way forward.

If we strip away the pressure that obviously comes with being Rangers - look at the example that St Mirren, St Johnstone, Falkrk and some others can set by letting youngsters do their thing - let talent have some air to breathe.

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01 Feb 2012 06:42:18
Right, today we all know that we are getting nothing back at all Now what we need to do is support Ally and every single player that pulls on the Rangers shirt,no matter what we think of how good or bad they are.That is who we have left. We can still win this league and if we do Lennon will be gone. Fellow BEARS...FOLLOW FOLLOW.......RANGERS TILL I DIE, SUPPORT THE CLUB....But Mr Whyte no more lies , we dont deserve lies ,tell us the truth and we will all get through this....

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01 Feb 2012 06:16:57
A strong day at the office for Rangers. 5.5 mil for Jelavic (glad we passed up on the 9 mil we were offered before and the other better offers we were told we had). That is 1.5 mil profit. minus wages. We came up against a powerful hibs to beet us for the Hundurian player also. Hibs would have been his obvious choice, I am sure. We came close to signing a Norwich dud but he was holding out for a move to the confrence league for more money. Kyle Hutton out on loan, makes sence as we have got too many strikers fit right now so best to give him a chance at Dumfermline. Jordan Mac gone, not that we needed cover at right back as Broadfoot and Whitts will be back in the next 8-10 weeks. Durrant was spotted down at the 50 pitches trying to secure some talent on a pay per play deal based on minutes on the field, but Possil YM scouts were also there and secured all the signatures.

I think we should get a big massive loan out secured on the future income just to make things as bad as they can get. Why not sell Sh@ggar for 750k also and bag some cash.

5.5 mil for Jela and we buy players from Hearts for 1.5 mil? I see we are just as bad as ever in the transfer market. We have to be the worst team commercially in the whole of footbal.

Not a happy rangers fan today.

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01 Feb 2012 04:46:38
As a Celtic fan i really hope Rangers dont go under. I think we need each other. The rivalry is deep and with some boardering on hatred. It just would not be the same if you went under. If im being really honest mcoist has done really well considering what he has had to work under. The thing i cant understand though is why Whyte never at least got Sandaza and the lad from hearts would have cost 1.5m tops not even half the transfer for jelavic.so would have still made a profit. his wages could most likley have paid both of these guys. Plus the money saved on wages from the others that have left surley must have left a bit of room for maybe a loan deal. Who is to blame for this mess whyte or murry?

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01 Feb 2012 04:35:09
Just watched the video on STV of ally leaving Ibrox after his meeting with Craig Whyte. He looked furious and rightly so (stuck between a rock and a hard place.)
Does he stay for the sake of the club he loves and allow these charlatans to continue to hang him out to dry or does he walk away. True Rangers legend I know he is hurting as much as the rest of us who hold the rangers in our hearts.

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01 Feb 2012 04:19:49
Theres no point in saying Whyte out etc, the club is skint. Whyte didnt put us in this position and whilst he may not be spending his own money to get us out of it, he is at least there. There wasnt a long queue behind him was there? Whyte is making tough financial decisions that need to be made. Its tough on Ally, but he could yet turn this into his greatest victory. Keep Believing fellow bears and dont let the heads go down. Sing loud for Ally and the team. WATP. Rangers Forever.

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So......by saving your club he has actually increased the clubs oriiginal debt. Hmmm.

By the way when the club goes into administration and you clear your debts, who is going to buy the club from whyte knowing that they won't have any money (from season tickets) to run the club until 2016?

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Tough financial decisions? he`s a lier he`s sold the club down the river, he hasnt invested a bean because he`s broke thats murrays fault for letting a dodgy bast*rd buy the club you must have your head up your ar$e pal, get whyte out now he`s delivered nothing of what he promised sold more players than he`s got in, weve looked cheap and tacky in everything weve done since this joke chairman came in. tough on ally- heart breaking more like- get him out- to$$er
stg

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01 feb 2012 03:48:20
no money.but bid rejected from norwich..not amused..r.t.i d...gutted whitey r.f.c..the show must go on*****

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That bid was made in the knowledge it would be turned down immediately, imo.

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01 Feb 2012 02:22:01
allright fellow football/bears fans i can understand all the hype around whats going on with our football club but lets be optimistic (spelling) yes you are all entitled to your views of recent goings on yes im verry concered about the situ atm but people are losing the plot at times with some of the comments all we can do is get behind the team and carry them to 4 in a row

wullie

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01 Feb 2012 02:11:45
Whyte should be applauded for trying to sort out the mess we are in, why would we sign players when we cant afford to pay their wages. its time to cut back I would rather lose the league than the club become extinct and ally signed alot of guff in the summer who's to say he woudn't sign guff again he may be a rangers man but he is not up to the job.

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01 Feb 2012 01:39:39
after all the saga of jelavic's move,everton have only paid £5.5 million for him,so much for £8 million.that is 2 first team player that have left(weir,jelavic) and another 3 squad players out on loan,plus the boy mcmillan that went to dunfermline that is 6 player who's wages have been freed up,and we still can't offer jaager or jorge claros a deal even to the end of the season.until we as supports make "whyte" tell us that is going on the all we are going to get is well worded speeches going around the truth.i hope we start to see supporters at ibrox at the weekend protesting about the treatment ally the season ticket holders and all the fans are receiving from our so called owner.from ruff estimates that is around £50 grand a free in freed wages yet no one comes in.

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01 Feb 2012 01:19:36
I'm a Celtic Supporter, proud out of it. it gives me no great pleasure in seeing any club suffering like yours is at the minute but the warning signs were on the cards for years. Boumsong on near £50,000 a week when he was with ye. Murray is a disgrace and it goes to show you that not only was he a bigot but also a mé féiner. Its an absolute disgrace and I agree with one rangers' supporter's remark. The only way for ye to come back from this mess is for the fans to take control of the club itself. Celtic came back from the financial mess of the late 80s-mid 90s. I dont see why you can't do the same. Until then, SPL Title will be in Parkhead for the foreseeable future.

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Agree with some , but I believe rangers will won title again this year without jellyfish ? Big marvin Andrews words "keep the faith" rangers will have 2 loan players tomorrow

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You are a pathetic excuse for a human if your taking great pleasure in what is happening to the gers how bitter

Wullie

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And yet it the title stays at Ibrox then it's a complete embarrassment to the green side of Glasgow and the sweetest league title in the history of Glasgow Rangers.

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Quote "SPL Title will be in Parkhead for the foreseeable future."
You's need to win it first

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And you had better hope we come back too make else your lot is obviously done too as any fool can see. Kinda surprising all the dhimwits on here day after day crowing and embarrassing themselves and their own club (no change there though) can't see that when they talk about all the "ostriches" in Govan. More than a few in the east of the City too if you honestly can't see where this is going to put you considering how bad the standard of the league is already. WAKEN UP AND STOP COMING ON HERE BLOWING YOU MORONS.

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01 Feb 2012 01:10:09
now we have rfc fans coming out and questioning the current rfc regime where were you guys last year could youse really be so blind as to not see what was happening to your club or was everyone else either a little thimmy or anti rfc sad sad times but what about your rangers supporters trust shouldnt they have been asking questions on your behalf now look at the medias role in all of this all they have been feeding youse is pr copy from whytes guru {jack irvine } they have been compliant in lying to youse all as journalists they are a disgrace but as usual the fans are the ones that suffer i do feel sorry for the decent rfc fans but dont vent your anger out on the wrong people take the ones who told you lies[whyte},withheld the truth{media}and stood by silently hoping it will change for the better{rangers supporters trust} and keep a watchful eye on who ever comes in chins up and good luck for the future

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Well said mate,for over a year the masses at ibrox thought was all timmys propaganda,press,bbc out to get us,or tarnish our great institution,well dont say yous wernt warned!!!been on defcon1 for last few month,yet no fans trusts or orginisations stood up & demanded answers from the crook,thief,charlatan whyte!!now its to late.u reap what you sew!!!karma!

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01 Feb 2012 00:58:22
Ryt am a rangers fan and I'm glad we didn't get anybody it's about time Healy and lafferty earn there corn. Yip we needed more fire power but maybe time for lafferty to shine. Jelavic was average and didn't wana play for us. The tax case needs sorting then worry about the league we need all the money we can get ours hands on. The manly mob ain't much better then will bottle it and if we win the league it will be a master stroke by whyte so let's just get behind team and help bring the league home no surrender we cry so lets not do it nown

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Lafferty is injured for another month mate

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I think you are in dream land mate.that is a year healy has been at the club and he has only scored 3 times and lafferty is injured for at least the next month.what happens if healy picks up a injury.yes jelavic wanted to leave but can you blame him,whyte has been trying to sell him since he came to the club.

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I think you are forgetting that Lafferty has one good game in 8 or 10...

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Are you nuts? Have you just been released from carstairs? We have no chance of winning the league, whyte and master stroke should never be in the same sentence.

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Aye right lafferty and healy what a deadly strike force.
ones a big donkey who cant score and the other is a wee guy whos best days are way way behind him and cant score

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The scary thing for Celtic right now is that when we win the league again what can they possibly complain about? They have twice the number of players we have and yet are only 1 point ahead?? They should be 20 ahead with the troubles we have been landed with this year. God help them when the Tax case falls, because they have nothing else to fall back on.... Oh aye it'll be the Refs, SFA, Bigots, Lennon etc who'll be to blame for their team of donkeys losing another title.
We will always we the best team in Scotland.
Blue Knows

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01 Feb 2012 00:54:51
Great hearing all of these pretend businessmen out there talking rubbish where would we be if Craig whyte didn't take over would you rather have a club to watch in the future or are you all Jst intrested in this season only get a grip ffs

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We would be in exactly the same position as we are now. I would remind you the bank agreed to buy Jelavic. They spent more than he has done or ever will do

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"whyte" has done nothing for the club.we are in more of a state now than we has ever been.why buy the club if you can`t help it in any way,plus the way the man goes does about every thing just makes you think he is up to no good.then he goods and brings in a man that has nearly destoryed every club he has been at (ellis).the two are no good.

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We wouldn't have mortgaged off the next five years' season ticket money with no evidence as to where that money has gone. The debt was actually being brought down to a manageable level. Only an utter person would swap this garbage for the way it was a year past. You sound like him- your job to turn the lights oot on your way oot friend. {Ed001's Note - the arrangement with Ticketus has been confirmed as in place prior to the arrival of Whyte. It had already been used to its fullest extent. So the most he can have mortgaged off this year, would be one year's season ticket money. It would be difficult to mortgage off more than that as it had been mortgaged already! Please stop getting caught up in media hysteria.}

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01 Feb 2012 00:51:02
Can anybody remember the rumour about that whyte didn't want ally as gaffer in tye 1st place? maybe this is whytes plan to try and frustrate ally to the limit of him walkin, then he can get his own gaffer in and then give what the fans want? to me it could be a possibility though, cos tbh if whyte was everything the papers made him out to be then obv SDM isn't that stupid to sell our proud club to just a random. remember how long it took to sell us to him so whyte must have something interesting to have in his CV. this is my opinion though, even though things sound bad etc etc but as the saying goes “ It will get worse before it gets better“. (Loyal Bear)

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Your kidding yourself son craig whyte is bad news.

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Haha, brilliant, the ultimate in optomism!

Miko x

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01 Feb 2012 00:35:55
Craig Whyte, what are you doing to our club? You have just let every single fan down. You should be ashamed of yourself, call yourself a fan?

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FACT: Whyte was NEVER a Rangers fan. He was always a Motherwell fan. He only became a Rangers fan at the time of the takeover. FACT!

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01 Feb 2012 00:19:27
Christ what a mess. The only guy willing to save us would appear to be playing fast and loose. The manager can't access funds to strengthen his team due to cash flow problems. We have large debts and potentially further fatal liabilities.Our rivals are revelling in our misery. We lost our top scorer. Yet we are the current champions, we sit second in the league 1 pt behind, we have a new striker in mervyn, whatever the future brings we are Rangers, however bad it gets we will never surrender. So to you doubters, grow a pair, face the new Dawn and get behind the team.

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Mervan '''is not''' a striker.....you might want to believe he is, but NO, he's not a striker

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The situation at Rangers, reminds me so much of when we had our shyster owners. The unnamed poster is absolutely spot on. Get behind Ally and your players and give no-less than 100% support, I know I will. I thought Ally looked a bit frustrated tonight, leaving Ibrox. Wouldn't blame the guy if he decided to step down, but that would make it worse for your club and Ally knows it.

Rangers results are always the 1st one I look out for, after LFC.

Good luck for the season and the future, I fear your going to need it.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Sorry to say but I would blame him if he stood down. He knew how bad it would get money wise this year. He picked up the junk players at the start of the season. He would have been better off without the likes of McKay, Ortiz etc.

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01 Feb 2012 00:19:56
Nt even a wee loan signing to give us a tiny bit of hope. Hemmings is out so Healy is only striker in squad!!!

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So no strikers then healy is absolite garbage no beating about the bush hes worse than colin nish

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Don't talk Colin Nish, you a******* Healy will score his fair share, he's only just in the team, has 3 in 4 games, and needs someone up with him, and he will ''genuinely'' play for the jersey

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01 Feb 2012 00:09:40
Don't know if you realise it but at least Craig White has the bottle to do the things necessary to ensure your survival .Without him , the probability is not administration but extinction .Time to bite the bullet and look to thefuture .You are meant to be Rangers supporters not anti Celtic babies .It's a hard world out there .

Paddy Malarkey

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F@ck off, he is putting us into admin, has had no thought of anything else - why?, because that is the only way he can make money

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Has everyone forgot that paul murray and dave king wanted to buy the club so craig whyte was not the only person to want rangers.it would have been alot better if they had taken over at least we would have had true rangers supporter in charge,not a motherwell supporter kidding on he supports rangers just to a quick buck.

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31 Jan 2012 23:47:43
Jelavic,Weir, Bendikson, Hutton, Fleck, McMillan, Ortiz, (out) Whittaker, Laff, Naisey, Broadfoot (injured) thats 11 f***** players.....Mervan Celic in-- 1 player, big jig will be up front with Heally, nobody else, add to that....McKay and Bedoya arnt even getting into squads.....if we wernt doomed, we are now.

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31 Jan 2012 23:45:33
Well it's that time again, end of another window and I must say I'm not just as disapointed as the last one but also so worried about the state of this once great club.
Murray should receive the same fate as that clown Goodwin, he should also be brought to task about the mess he has left to a historical institution.
As for Whyte, did any sensible fan expect anything less, I feel so silly staying up with the hope that something might happen, that something would be pulled out of the bag, but nothing. not even a trialist signed.
We have one fit striker who should be nowhere near the first team and have just sold our main goal threat, but still nothing.
Whyte, now is the time to come clean and state why you paid a pound for us.
What is your plan, if any?
To me, you have gambled with my club, firstly thinking European money was a given, then selling your fanbase down the river by using the majority of the next 4 seasons worth of ticket revenue as security for the money you obtained, where is it?
It is you who should be front loaded, on to the next flight to the bermuda triangle.
I was very sceptical through out but was always willing to give you time to improve our club, you failed and will receive no further financial backing from me as i neither trust you or have any faith in your ability to lead this club.
Whatever way we look at it, it looks like being a long road, and if the worst happens, we start again, we will always remember the good times.
But fans of Rangers, we must act, get this cretin out of our club now, he has not only treated two legends with total contempt. but has treated us, the fans as total mugs, though some are, most aren't and should not stand for this.
I'm now going to calm down and forget about football for a few weeks as i'm sickened.
I hope as much dirt as possible comes to light regarding Mr whyte and I believe there is a huge pile ripe to be dished.
BR

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Historical institution sorry buddy youse are only a football club ,as with all football clubs you have a history some of it good some of it bad, and history tells us football clubs do go out of business and it looks very much like thats the end game for whyte all this faith and trust in whyte should have asked deeper probing questions about the man rather than blindly listening to the propaganda spouted out by the laptop loyals who has done your club and fans a huge disservice

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This post is aimed at Rangers fans, not the likes of you.
One question, if we manage to hold on until the end of the season and win the league(probs more chance of me winning lottery) but at this time we are only 1 point behind,where do you lot go from there?
BR {Ed014's Note - If it is posted anyone can answer.

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31 Jan 2012 23:52:55
Our chairman is quoted on the official Rangers website as suggesting the club has 30 senior players love to know who exactly they all are given we have spent the last 4 weeks either selling players or loaning them out,wonder if Whyte could actually name them.

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31 Jan 2012 23:51:48
hi ed would just like to see what u think on the supposedly 9million offer we knocked back at start of season i think its been pure and utter garbage and think that waiste of space lawell was correct in mocking this saying it was a load of nonesence what u think fellow bears i cant beleive we have healy as our only fit striker a would prefer colin nish no joking {Ed003's Note - There was never a £9m bid in the summer}

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P*** talk

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31 Jan 2012 23:47:35
Remember Alistair Johnston's departing words warning the fans to pay attention to what Whyte promised and to what he eventually delivered. How right his words were! This is a sad day.

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Was this the same Johnston who claimed there was no tax case at the last AGM

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31 Jan 2012 23:16:55
Goalkeeper:
1 Allan McGregor 25 Neil Alexander Defender:
2 Dorin Goian 4 Kirk Broadfoot 5 Sasa Papac 12 Lee Wallace 14 Ross Perry 16 Steven Whittaker 18 Carlos Bocanegra 22 Kyle Bartley 36 Darren Cole
Midfielder:
6 Lee McCulloch 7 Maurice Edu 8 Steven Davis 20 Alejandro Bedoya 20 Matt McKay 24 Mervan Celik 26 Jamie Ness 27 Gregg Wylde 28 Salim Kerkar 33 Thomas Kind Bendiksen 19 Sone Aluko
Striker:
11 Kyle Lafferty 15 David Healy 34 Andrew Little 38 Kane Hemmings AND 14 Steven Naismith whos out

really need the guys to stand up and be counted now
in the words of big marvin andrews have faith keep believing i have faith and i willl never give up hope stand with each other bears let's see it out in the style that rangers fans should

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No bendiksen

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Think you will find Bendiksen went back to Norway and Darren Cole is on loan at Partick Thistle

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Ed why did u remove the no surrender at the end of the post ? and plz dont say its sectisum cuz its not {Ed001's Note - it doesn't matter what it was known for in the past, it has become associated with sectarianism now. Just like the swastika has become tainted by association with the wrong people, so has no surrender I am afraid.}

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Andy Little has never played striker for Rangers, he started old firm game at ibrox at right back, ''' BENDIKSEN left 3 weeks ago''' (where have you been) whittaker, broadfoot,hemmings, ness, lafferty, naisey all out injured , some long term. mc kay cant make the bench against Arbroath, Bedoya not quoted

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Ok sorry ed not gonna use it again :D

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Ed001;well done for spotting that sectarian linked slur. {Ed014's Note - I deleted the thread,not sure how it got through but apologises.

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31 Jan 2012 23:54:22
Norwich fan on bbc radio 5 live saying rangers offered 500,000 for holy! Firstly where did we get that money and secondly what an insult to norwich

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31 Jan 2012 23:53:12
this is a pure joke rangers no signing any1 can anybody tell me if we have a decent striker in the youth setup. Because if healy gets injured who have we got man haha

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Andy little

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Andy little has started any games for Rangers at right back, even Celtic at Ibrox, he lasted 2 minutes mind you, but was still right back

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Yeah, but Little can still play as a striker! Its his natural position! He played under 21 level as a striker and make appearances in the reserves as a striker!

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31 Jan 2012 23:53:03
Well done eds for your constant updating of the site but you like all us supporters might as well o had an early night!!

JBBEAR {Ed001's Note - I am beginning to wish I had done!}

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31 Jan 2012 23:01:38
first time postin on here!
Gutted!
How do you explain to your teenage son that the team
weve been goin to see for years has sold our only decent striker an not replaced with anyone?
Shockin totally Gutted.

Thank F*** i gave him the support thru the good & bad times speach wen he was younger!

Bleak Days Ahead...

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31 Jan 2012 23:00:22
i know the stook we`r in with money and i can look at it sensibly and see we need to put as much away as we can to get us back on an even keel remember this is murrays mess whyte is tryin to clean up bears, but all that taken into consideration we could surely have scrapped together somethin to bring another striking option in we were already way short now out best striker gone, what happened to offer for holt even if it was peanuts we offered there was obviously a tranfer fee and wages available! we`ll now have to rely on free agents really poor show by managment on this point, peronally would have went for alan smith on loan

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31 Jan 2012 23:00:06
Time for shareholders to demand an immediate
AGM even if that creates difficulties for the club. White has treated us all like mushrooms and
clearly has never had the money required. Murray said he would not sell to anyone who could not take the club forward; this disaster is his legacy!
I fear we have yet to see the worst. Ally & co should walk rather than be part of the White fiasco.

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31 Jan 2012 22:59:45

Murray Park and the place is dubbed up and in darkness. How symbolic eh!

We are going into the last part of the season with one fit striker, although he is clearly on a downward slope.

Gutted for the boss. Despise whyte (doesn't deserve a capital letter in his name). Shame on you murray!

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31 Jan 2012 22:59:41
Let's get Whyte to f***. It is time for RANGERS fans to get our club back and run it our self.

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31 Jan 2012 22:59:41
Mr Whyte pockets more money for the sale of Jelavic with no further monies being released for a replacement before the deadline. Only the potential signing of a free agent is the best we can get now. Wouldn't hold my breath, looks as if we've been spun further lies from an ever increasing list of failed promises from the so called Rangers supporter Mr Whyte.

BB27

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31 Jan 2012 22:59:30
Craig whyte today;
Admittedly, there were transfer targets we did not secure but that is not uncommon. As chairman, I have supported Ally McCoist in his choice of targets and will continue to do so. The timing of Jelavic's departure so late in this window is far from ideal and efforts to improve the squad will continue until the transfer window closes.
Total farce and shambolic, just a tad economical with the truth craigy boy.
Can see paddy power paying out soon, suggest you lot that support whyte get your heads out his erse.

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31 Jan 2012 22:58:48
craig whyte has abused your trust for the last time, people for the love of god wake up and take a look at whats happening here, we are going to the wall! we have no fit strikers execpt healy now. he has accepted 2nd place in the league and doesnt seem intrested in fighting celtic for first place! how much money do we all put into rangers a year! we deserve the truth

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