Rangers Banter Archive March 01 2012

 

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01 Mar 2012 23:44:12
its pretty obvious who the new owner of rangers are going to be you,ll love this ,,,,but think about it

.........ticketus....les

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Dont worry Les....I had the same thought myself this morning....If the club is liquidated they stand to lose £24M...The only way they could possibly recoup their losses would be to buy the club and then sell Ibrox, murray park etc..they wont give up on £24M easily of that you can be sure!

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01 Mar 2012 23:15:40
Hi Chaps
Any idea where CW is ? Is he still in
France ? I would think if my business was about
To go T1ts up I would be in the thick of it helPing
Out in any way I could to save my staff
my future and my reputation, no not Mr Sh1te
he is off to his 2 million £ pad in France
While the ship sinks. This guy is a coward
no substance at all. Not fit to govern any of
The unfortunate businesses he has put to the
Wall and never fit to Govern the Famous Glasgow
Rangers.

My father works day and night to keep his
Small business going not taking a wage
week after week. Could any one see CW
Offering to not take a wage or sell the pad in France
And pump the cash into Rangers
I don't think so.

Mr CW can I personally ask you to hand us
The shares you spoke about and all our cash
Back and we the people will rebuild the Rangers
With hard work and dignity and respect for others
However I also ask that you show the same
Dignity and respect and step aside.
If you can't manage this then I would ask
You simply to F xxx off to Baghdad as you
Won't be welcome in Scotland
Ever again .

Lets start to restore our pride in our club.
We must never again have one person
Hold such a large share of the club and have
No accountability for there actions.
Let's get Sir Walter as our figure head
And get the march going and the cash flowing
In to Save and Re build Rangers FC
Bro J

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Aye sir walter liked tae spend our money tae
he,s ok in helensburgh no not one person that had anything to do with that debackle should ever darken our door stay away walter we have no money left tae spend ...les

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Watch the news he was in London yesterday

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01 Mar 2012 23:19:41
Celtic fan hear genuinely sorry to hear that this Sat could be Rangers last game. I do want Rangers punished for years of mismanagement and spending outwith their means but not to the extent that they dont exist anymore. Sick of arguing with my fellow Celtic fans about how no Rangers is ultimatley bad for the Scottish game. We'll see who's rite in 3 or 4 years time when attendances have dwindled at Parkhead due to a serious lack of competition in the SPL. Celtic will have to slash season ticket prices to entice fans to games seriously harming our turnover. Had a season ticket for 15 years at Celtic but I certainly wont be paying 570 quid to watch the team with no old firm games to look forward to.

Drew

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As a Rangers season ticket holder I fully agree with your statement, I would NOT buy a season ticket that excludes the Old Firm games its the 1st fixtures we both check when dates are revealed.
Also I feel 10 points and losing most of our squad is already a severe punishment and is fair I feel but relegation, stripping of titles no chance, if they do that then I will welcome our Champions League final appearance V Ac Milan

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Good honest post mate - I don't think it's a coincidence that you can buy a season ticket at Ibrox or Parkhead without old firm games for £280! People pay for this derby, it's the best game bar none, I would even say they are better than champions league games!

J

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01 Mar 2012 22:51:40
On radio clyde tonight they mentioned having Walter Smith as head of some sort of consortium leading the way . What people seem to have forgotten is that Walter spent quite a bit of the monies that have lead to the situ RFC now find themselves in .Also Would Walter as manager not know the every day goings on at the club he worked at ?.Maybe not a fit and able person TTTS?.

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This post must be another Tim, Walter smith spends the money given to him like any other manager, outside jock stein Walter smith is best ever to manage an old firm team.

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If the manager is given a transfer budget he would normally spend it. The manager will not be involved in business decisions or decisions on how to pay players.

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Remind me how much did the wee general spend?

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Walter smith was a much better manager than stein

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As a fellow ger get a grip stein done it all

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01 Mar 2012 21:34:43
Highland bear, you have hit the nail square on the head. These guys you mention come on here and respond to many posts by decent gers fans with pretend sincerity and with the guise of being decent football fans. ( sorry ed ). The fact is as you have shown they sculk around telling rangers fans one thing and Celtic fans another, the audacity of telling people like us that we are bitter and not in touch with the modern football world.

The fact is you know what you are, and as I reiterate. If rangers were going for the treble and Celtic were in our state I would certainly not be on the Celtic page for any reason.

I just can't understand why you guys are so obsessed with the rangers, are you bitter or just acting in the Celtic way.

Oranjeboom

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@orangebum I'm not obsessed by you in any manner of means but after a hard days work I grab an hour just to catch up on your misery and I find it all amusing to to watch from the sidelines. So from me, wherever i am, I always tell the truth and that will never waiver.

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Just enthralled by laughing at the finger pointers like yourself. We come on here showing humility when it really hits the fan and an ingrate like yourself flings it back in our faces. If you can't see that,your type, behaving like this can actually breed the bitterness so clearly threaded through your post, then I pity you. You are the problem not the civilised amongst us.

Jamie Mac(doesn't need told his own mind)

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Orangeboom, you are one bitter dude. My sympathy shrinks everytime i read one of your posts.

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It might help you to understand if you have a wee shooftie round the rangersmedia forums. you will find there some real deranged, paranoid and offensive abuse such as been handed out by a great many 'rangers fans' for probably as long as rangers have existed. the targets of said abuse are just warming themselves at the fire. i see no words on here to compete with those 'rangers fans' commonly use to describe the followers of celtic fc. do you really want to continue to pretend you dont know why they think all of this is hilarious ? get real. all you have ever done is paid money to watch people play football. how does that make you or any other football customer special ? the celtic way is and always has been to exclude no-one. maybe thats why that business is thriving and the rangers model is going down the clyde. to paraphrase one of your favourite slogans; no sympathy.

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01 Mar 2012 21:21:59
Did anyone else hear Radio Clyde talk in tonight where one of the panel stated that the spl rule is if any club is liquidated and reformed they must start in 3rd division but he is 100% sure Rangers will be invited to stay in the SPL because no rangers means no TV deal

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General consensus from media is an invitation to be readmitted into the SPL with penalties. There have been demands from a couple of septic bloggers and their sheep to block this. Septic are only one voice and vote in the SPL and turkeys don't vote for Xmas.

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Rules are rules get them out you can't move the goalposts especially for cheats! The sky deal works out at £1.6m per team per season although I know the old firm get slightly more than the other 10. If for talking sake Celtic get £2m a year then all they do is sell a top player for £6m that's three years tv money until the manky mob make their way back up the leagues. Tv deal back on when the smell returns. As for the other teams they will just have to cut their cloth and knuckle down.

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Typical Septic fan only concern is for themselves one objective dominate Scottish football at all costs a spl with no rangers will result in weaker teams excluding septic Septic do not care about the quality of the opposition. heres a question to septic fans over the last few years your board have spent enough money to compete with Rangers (unsuccessfully may i add) you have bought some good players Kayal,izaguire,hooper,stokes, wanyama, to name a few paid them decent wages, do you honestly think that your board will spend the same level of money and pay the same level of wages to compete with motherwell,St mirren ,Dundee Utd etc i seriously doubt it. the standard of player Celtic buy will drop resulting in even worse European runs( look how well you done with half decent players) this in turn would impact on the quality of player you could attract. i have some really good friends that support septic and they are mature enough to realise no rangers will have a big impact on Celtic. not financially i agree but in football terms defiantly.


Highland bear

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01 Mar 2012 21:12:17
237000 followers on the Rangers Facebook site. £1000 each and we have 237 million in the bank, pay off all debts, restructure and move on.......We own the club and that is where it belongs!

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How many of those are kids? Or people who couldn't afford £100 let alone £1000? Do you live in a fantasy world?

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Aye cause every followers on Facebook has a grand to sre

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That's a great idea, although I've a better one, why doesn't all they people give 2000 and then rangers can have 474 mil!! Easy! So easy I can't believe nobody else had thought of it!! L1888

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Was that on fud book never.

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Genius.....

Bman

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01 Mar 2012 21:07:29
In my opinion there are a good few players we need rid of at ibrox anyway so why not man up and voice your views on who you would like to see out the door my no 1 would be....
whittaker he cost us millions in cl money then blew the eroupa ada all after being handed 25k a week thats 100k a month or one million two hundred thousand per week.
bedoya.. is he still here?
healy... worth nothing and must be on at least 10k a week thats 540k per year.
then theres mculloch again worth nothing and probs on 10 15k per week.
there are players we could get rid of here and it would in my opinion give the young boys on the fringes the chance to prove once and for all if they have got it or not.. agree / disagree??.

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I think your a bit harsh on big jig, the guy was very good in the uefa cup run to the final and has won the league every season he has been here, also supports rangers and is willing to play for free!

J

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Big jig has been a great signing.

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Exactly! Mentioned this a while back about the big man! Hero!

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01 Mar 2012 21:01:57
I came across this tonight so first up its not my work. However this one of the most inspirational pieces I have read, so from Travellingbear:
Rangers aren't going strong any more. The unthinkable is reality – Rangers are in administration and close to liquidation. The natural inclination for many is to feel helpless and give up – in action, if not in mind.

But you would be wrong. This is our moment as Rangers fans to show courage. This is your moment.

Yes, you reading this. Not just Paul Murray or the Rangers Supporters Trust. Not just some organisation or group of rich fans. Every single Rangers fan has a part to play in saving the club. When we admire those who overcome extreme adversity, it's easy to forget that those in the middle of turmoil didn't know the future, but they had the courage to fight on.

Rangers fans have been so demonised that we have forgotten how many of us there are, and how strong we are as a lobby. We are crucial to the Scottish economy. We are crucial to the survival of Scottish football and we can make or break political and media careers.

We have influence – so use it!

If a politician helps or hinders the club, then let them know every Gers fan will hear of it. This can, at the very least, stop possible mischief-makers from harming the club. Believe me, it doesn't take many contacts for a politician to get the message.

We also have financial clout. If a business, or media organisation helps Rangers then thank them. Buy their products and promote them. If they go against Rangers then politely let them know it, and never buy their products, read their newspapers or listen/watch their shows.

We have this new invention called the internet. Spread the word on everyone who helps or hinders Rangers at the moment. It's important.

Look at Dunfermline and Dundee Utd. Both are owed money from Rangers and both should get their money from Rangers. So far Dunfermline have acted with class while Dundee Utd are rumoured to have chosen to make life very difficult for Rangers in the future.

In both cases they deserve Rangers' money, but I would suggest Dunfermline also deserve the fans money too. In Dundee Utd's case, if they go against Rangers they should not get a penny of our hard-earned cash, and it should never be forgotten. Ever.

That goes for every football club, journalist, politician, business and media outlet. They are perfectly entitled to choose to harm our club, but Rangers fans are also free to make our memories last very long indeed.

As Rangers fans we don't know what will happen. At best, we could have many barren years and come out stronger. At worst, The Rangers Football Club will be liquidated and a new legal entity will take over, but it will still be The Rangers.

The club can only truly die if you let it die. We might have "no money, no kit, not even a ball" but we will still carry on and rebuild if we choose to do so. There is a reason we sing "four men had a dream" and not "four men had a financial legal entity".

Rangers have had many different kits, we even wore the hoops before Celtic Football & Athletic Company (a body ended in 1994). We have played in different areas and even another Ibrox, but we are still The Rangers.

Being a Rangers fan is not something that can be taken away unless we let it. It is something we share as fans. We are attached to a dream, to an idea. We sometimes differ on that what that is, but we feel it every time the ball hits the back of the net.

Of-course it would be devastating for the current legal entity was to be liquidated, but I for one will not allow the dream of The Rangers Football Club to die because of the disgusting personal management of a few people.

You don't need to let The Rangers die either – even in the worst circumstance – because as long as Rangers fans come together that is where the Rangers heartbeat resides, not at Companies House.

If we stick together that dream stays alive. If we put petty internal rivalries aside we can overcome. If Rangers fans in the media and politics show some courage and stop hiding we can win.

The Rangers lion will still roar this Saturday because we will stay together. Let your voice be heard at every game like never before. We sing that "we will follow on" and we have. But the club no longer just needs followers. For once the club will take our lead and follow us out of the darkness.

I know we will not let our dream die. Time to let others learn that lesson too.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." – Winston Churchill

Travellingbear I salute you sir.

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Nothing about Celtic ended in 1994 - only a name changed.

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Well said

J

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How dare Dundee utd be p!ssed off with you for not getting what their owed! Cheek! Get real ya plum. The more I see sh!t like this the quicker I hope you go out the game! Blame everybody, let's feel sorry for ourselves,every ones against us. The abyss awaits you

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01 Mar 2012 20:46:09
So Editor dude; if Rangers are going to have to sack some players tomorrow, who do you think will go? I'm hearing it will be (at least) Papac, Healy, Kerkar, Bedoya, Aluko, McCulloch - anyone else got any knowledge? I am gutted, perhaps with the exception of the under-used Bedoya, these guys always give their all for the team. Apparently Rangers can still sell players to clubs in countries where the transfer window is still open? {Ed001's Note - it will be the players who are out of contract in the summer and any older players on high wages. In other words all the ones that can't be sold for much. The club will also accept offers for all players.}

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01 Mar 2012 20:27:14
Sounds like that gaydamak might be a Craig whyte is he ed? Portsmouths parachute payments going to him! Is this what we are facing?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - hard to say, we will only know when the administrators tell us, just like we only found the truth about Portsmouth afterwards.}

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01 Mar 2012 21:00:51
i seem to have rattled a few cages here Ed first of all to everyone jumping on the band wagon i did not state all celtic fans were patronizing i named the usual suspects and to the rest of you celtic fans that believe i was referring to you i truly most sincerely apologize as for the ones i named i still feel the same. as mulder and scully would say The Truth Is Out There (the celtic banter page)


highland bear

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Your right bear, to show how much sympathy they have for us simply go on Celtic rumours. I appreciate that some time want to give us some sympathy but thanks but no thanks the day I need a Celtic man to raise my spirits it will be a cold day in hell the bear

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Bitter and ungracious to the end.

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Im pretty sure our sympathy was not intended for you two losers.to the decent gers;good luck guys with these two plonkers you might need it............green jhedi

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01 Mar 2012 20:50:24
nice post jhedi

@1903; thanks for posting that mate.as soon as the job cuts were announced was the time to behave with some feeling.good luck to all the decent gers fans in getting whyte out. highland bear; long suspected you were some kind of fool.proof supplied..............green jhedi

now explain this one or was it not you

29 Feb 2012 22:52:18
just seen a post on the wake page about not spending anything in the asbestos arena.great idea,i hope we can spread the word and pull it off. not one pie/drink or bag of crisps should be bought.petty?..yes. effective?..deffo.they will feel it,so lets make sure.......green jhedi

not words from someone who cares about peoples jobs


and Macca if you read my post you will notice that i mentioned the patronizing few Highland Bear

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they actually think sales matter? Rangers do not run the catering, it is contracted out to another company.

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Hypocrisy from green jedhi, surely not .

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Think you'll find one was this morning, one last night - read his posts and work it out.

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Just look at the timeline .............green jhedi

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Yea and no one ever thought that Liquidation was a real possibility and no one was going to lose their jobs Jhedi's post is encouraging people to try and force Liquidation on rangers knowing full well that jobs will be lost the guy is a hypocrite

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Does it matter if one was last night or tonight? The fact is he pretended to care about people losing their jobs and then basically said the opposite in another post. Hypocrisy much

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No, he said the comment about food etc FIRST as a bit of banter (look it up) with his fellow fans and sympathised with you the following morning. Geez, some of you are a bit lacking in the brain area.

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People are allowed to change their stance you know - you don't have to stick by everything you do and say forever, if you realise it's not quite right.

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01 Mar 2012 20:48:22
For those in denial about the overall debt in the SPL , this was a quote from 2009, so unless I am living in a parallel world the situation has worsened however read what this guy said then:
As the administrator who steered Motherwell and Clyde through troubled waters - Clydebank were less fortunate - Bryan Jackson can boast 28 years of experience in football troubleshooting.
An insolvency partner with PKF, he can offer no comment on the situation concerning Rangers for professional reasons, but says of the general picture facing the Scottish game: 'It's an unprecedented time. The credit crunch will begin to affect sponsorship and, for the smaller clubs in particular, that will make it more difficult to survive.
'It will also affect corporate hospitality because people will eat out less and spend less when they do.
'Then you have ticket sales. The hardcore will grumble about the quality of the product on offer, as they always do. But, ultimately, they tend to renew, anyway. For many people, football on a Saturday is a form of escapism they are reluctant to give up.'
The irony in all this is that most of our clubs had finally begun to make inroads into their debts. Rangers aside, most other SPL clubs reduced their liabilities to some degree in the last financial year.
'Clubs had finally begun to budget properly and realised they could no longer rely on a cup run or on finishing 11th in the league,' points out Jackson.
'Those measures had got the clubs back to break-even point. Now that people are spending less and clubs can go up no more, they have a new challenge to face. The clubs with high levels of historic debt could be back in danger.' 
Prophetic indeed from 2009.

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01 Mar 2012 20:22:53
so lets go through them all - jim traynor, darrell king, graham spiers, keith jackson, roger hannah, mark guidi, and bill leckie- each to a man say that rangers will be put into liquidation. If we avoid doomsday scenario they will all suffer a backlash from all gers fans. although deep down their probably right!

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01 Mar 2012 20:20:21
The 7 who refused pay deduction . Order their taxi just now they not rangers men. Time to say tata kenny bluenose

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No such thing as rangers men, its people like the de boer brothers you should be blaming 50k a week

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01 Mar 2012 20:12:02
If Rangers liquidate this week as is rumoured they only have themselves to blame. Why didnt Craig Whyte put them into admin in january(he must have known it was coming then). Uz wud have had a transfer window to generate cash by th sale of ur better players. That wud have at least kept uz running until the end of the season.The reason Whyte waited til Feb was so nothing cud be done to get Rangers out of admin. It is unbelievable wot this guy has been able to come in and do.

Drew

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It was his plan A B C and D. Given the big tax case he decided to go for broke and not take any chances.

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I was thinking this exactly. The timing of admin stinks and u get the feeling Craig Whyte was doing this by design. It seems he had done all he can to make the situation unrecoverable and the rumours for tomorrow are liquidation......martyc1888

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01 Mar 2012 20:10:25
Would like fellow bears thoughts on this possible scenario, if Rangers goes into liquadation and we have to form a new Rangers (will break my heart) and given that the rest of scottish football is delighted about this scenario and that Celtic have already said that they dont need Rangers, why would we want to start over again in the Scottish 3rd division? I say get out of Scottish football altogether leave Celtic and other clubs to their fate, and we apply to join the English league structure. We apply to start in the Conference league and take it from there, im sure their clubs would welcome the increased intrest and revenue. After all it would take 3 years to come through the scottish league system, by that time we could be potentially be in the championship.

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I for one agree with you if we must start again after Liquidation we should do it in the English lower leagues,as you stated Celtic and the majority of spl clubs say they dont need us so even if we are invited to stay in the spl we know that its not for the love of the club its for the revenue we bring. i say if we liquidate we apply to England.

Highland Bear

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" I say get out of Scottish football altogether blah!blah!blah!", " we apply to join the English league structure blah! Blah! Blah!"." We apply to start in the Conference league blah! Blah! Blah!" DREAM ON NODDY! England had their fill of you lot four years ago Why the hell would they want you there every other week Zzzzz.....Zzzzz......Zzzzzzz

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That is the last resort, we should fight to keep our history till the end which is liquidation. Then if every avenue is exhausted we have to look at that choice not until. Yes I agree rather than crawl to that nest of vipers in the spl board I would prob favour England playing our home games at ibrox of coarse. But we don't throw our identity and history away easily we fight to keep it and all that entails the bear

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It wouldn't be the Conference but lower or do you arrogantly believe you can deny an English club of its place? Why don't you check where AFC Wimbledon started.

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Did you not hear the Keith Harris interview the EPL don't want Rangers or Celtic the comment was "thats what hadrian's wall was built for" (to keep them out). Also dont think England would want the bile that comes with either side of the old firm.

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What did Orville say?

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01 Mar 2012 19:27:04
Portsmouth in the news tonight with cash problems.Why dont we arrange a friendly at Ibrox with proceeds split between both clubs. {Ed001's Note - to be honest, I think it is a little too late for Pompey.}

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01 Mar 2012 19:25:06
Sorry fellow bears but I still believe
that Ally has strung us fans along and
knows a lot more than we think.

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Listen mate the reason that players release has been delayed is because of super fighting tooth an nail for them and for us! Will he win the fight? No probably not but at least he's trying... What more do you think he nos? That we are heading linford Christie speed towards liquidation? Everyone nos that mate!
PaulRFC

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No i must disagree with you i think super ally knew as much as the fans did which is praticllay nothing i think when ally said before the januray transfer window opened that he had targets of players he wanted to bring in to the club i think he was genuine and then whyte was just agreeing to with mcoist just for the sake of not needing to say the extent of of the financial damage there actually was then as whytes favroute thing to do is lie and bring nobody in

now for the blue knight consortium i very much welcome the idea i believe they will get us back on to an even terms financially it will take a while for rangers to get back to where we want it but we can do it now anybody who hasn't got tickets for the game in Saturday i would say quick there nearly sold out and lets get ibrox bouncing on Saturday

lets support super ally and the players

campbell

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Of course he does


TB

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01 Mar 2012 19:23:47
With all agreed that the situation for both sides of old firm have gone way past funny,affecting lots of people in many ways is it time to put football aside and think,rangers boards have been reckless playing with peoples livlyhoods,not given a stuff about fans now put all our own money to help save them,i think swallow pride n dump gers as it is as its not cared for history n now a failed business,take our history out the business n put it in a newco owned by fans,y pay to clear up a mess by greedy people,everyone raging at paying higher tax due to banks n rangers situation similar,grab your chance to rid debt own rangers n take your history,or pay to make everyone rich bar rangers

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Sod everyone we're the rangers is the exact attitude you're denouncing and advocating at the same time. On a board level the dignity has gone, posts and attitudes like this will rid the average fan of theirs too. Dignity is all that can be salvaged from the mess show some class like other bears on here and out there pal

Jamie Mac(feels for you)

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01 Mar 2012 19:14:36
here is a message to the Likes of Timalloy,Green Jhedi,Miko,Lubo etc

dont come on here giving us your false sympathy all you are doing is patronizing us. you dont fool anyone with your fake good luck messages. keep sticking the Knife in bhoys but believe me your words dont hurt anymore compared with what is happening to our great club you words are just a mere irritation at worst.

as for you fellow bears if you want to see what these mugs really think take a look over on the septic pages and see what these half wits are really posting.

most of these guys are just like that diddy lawwell they just want Septic to dominate Scottish football regardless of the quality of opposition and they are well aware that will never happen as long as the Glasgow Rangers are there to stop them


Highland Bear

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What an idiot! This is a banter page mate. I sppose you have never wound up a tic fan during 9 in a row or after a league win. We want Celtic to dominate, regardless of the opposition, as you lot did back in the 90s. When it comes to the stage where people are losing their job then we are allowed to be serious. Get that chip of your shoulder and stop giving your club a bad name

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What a joke highland bear,like everything in football we disagree but real life would not wish it on any1,i would say one of my warmest memories was mccoist n smith puttin wreath down for tommy burns,would you say that patronizing,or would you think sum of us are enjoying banter but not at all anything but best of wishes to any1 losing job,

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Like this post?

"morning ghuys and mrs e.just heard the news from ipox.i really think noise up's should be cancelled today as gers fans i know have realised that liquidation is now very real.remember how we felt when it was us? lets show a bit of class and understanding.people are losing jobs here.players should be ok,but if it starts to cut in to the ordinary workers thats sore.seven players refused a wage defferall.i hope they can live with themselves............green jhedi"

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Highland bear - grow a pair and grow up. Sure we are gloating but the end game is nigh for the Gers. No-one likes to see Joe Public losing their jobs. The players, if they have skills, will be alright in the long run. The younger players will struggle to get picked up by a decent club. Its not the fault of CFC that you are where you are. Scottish football will recover, as will rangers in whatever form they re-emerge as. No-one to blame but yourselves...and thats the gods honest truth.

Bankie Bhoy

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Have to agree, the people he mentioned at the start of the post aer ALWAYS 24/7 on the rangers page they need to get a grip.

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Shame on you Highland Bear,you are a disgrace to your fellow fans,there are genuine Septic fans as you call us who actually have sympathy for your club,but when anything bad is said about your fans we are referring to people like you,i support Celtic but my son supports Rangers and he is heart broken just now,so not all of us are being patronizing but genuine about our sympathy for your club,if you read down the page you will see more than 4 Celtic supporters wishing yous all the best,and to be honest i wish this whole mess would come to a conclusion and put my sons mind at ease and fellow Rangers fans who are feeling the same.MACCA

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Highland Bear, feel free to look on CELTIC (please spell properly) and you will see I posted sympathetic post over there also. Nothing fake about it.
I admit we Tims have had our moments of fun, but it is a Banter (look up meaning) site. But I saw how my nephews reacted, and now ordinary workers being sacked, because of slimy businessmen at Rangers, that is wrong.
But it is the silly watp attitude of people like you who turn all of Scotland against you. Accept sympathy with good grace or walk away. Timalloy

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'Diddy' Lawell, good one mate. If only Rangers had a diddy like him in charge perhaps you wouldn't be on the verge of oblivion. Put your bitterness to one side and understand that when you go to an Olf Firm game we all yell and scream at the other end despite the fact that many of our mates are in the opposing end but when full time is up we return to being friends and accept the banter

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Highland Bear , i don't know how old you are and if you supported Rangers through the 90's, i can tell you the gloating coming out of ibrox was unrelenting in those times, you were signing proven international players for millions of pounds while Celtic were signing bargain basement players, your chairman was joining in the gloating by coming out with quotes about Rangers will always be bigger than Celtic (you know the quote i mean)biscuit tins were also mentioned regularly, so i suggest you stop throwing the toys out the pram and face the facts that your team is doomed because of your years of overspending, and don't expect an ounce of sympathy from anyone else in scottish football. Cheerio Rangers and Good Riddance........Stevie

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Your right I hope you do go out the game I despise everything your club has ever stood for and I like many fellow celts won't miss you. I hope that wasn't to patronising for you and hope this doesn't spoil whatever you highland people get up to on a Thursday night. Ta ta

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@1903; thanks for posting that mate.as soon as the job cuts were announced was the time to behave with some feeling.good luck to all the decent gers fans in getting whyte out. highland bear; long suspected you were some kind of fool.proof supplied..............green jhedi

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“just like that diddy lawwell they just want Septic to dominate Scottish football regardless of the quality of opposition and they are well aware that will never happen as long as the Glasgow Rangers are there to stop them”….funny, obviously you haven’t been watching what is going on at your club cause what you said is what rankers did and is why they are in this position, for they spent what they didn’t have (and had deals made maybe) to win.

Celtic fans feel sorry for the lost of jobs, but not for the position that your club put itself in and that is why on our page we have banter of how it came about and not laugh at the cuts. It is sad to know that you can’t take well wishes from Celtic fans, we may have different views on things but I hope that agreeing the honest peoples job lost is wrong and show that the 2 clubs could unite on something and start a change.

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I do realize that their is some genuine Celtic fans out there with genuine well wishes but if you look at Green Jehdi post above about then go over to the celtic banter page he is encouraging all Celtic fans at the next OF game not to buy Pies/crisps or even a bovril just to make sure we go into liquidation. if thats the way he feels then fine all im saying is be consistent man,


Highland Bear

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As previously stated in another similar post, if banter upsets you so much and you cant BEAR any critisism of your club, or genuine sympathy. DONT COME ON! ........SIMPLE AS THAT ...... JS

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Won't Rangers' pie and crisp money be going to another company as part of the catering deal?

Anyway, didn't those comments on the Celtic page come before the sympathetic comments - before today's stories about job losses?

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@highland bear;the post you refer to was done BEFORE the sackings were announced.of course i want rangers to have it as hard as possible,im a tim! that it has hit the fan,things are different.the players will be ok,in a lot of cases they will get a nice signing on fee,my sympathy is for the cleaners,tea ladies,laundry workers etc.try and listen.i did not want or expect you to liquidate,just pay the penalties you get.my mates are decent gers fans not WATP,,bigots,why would i take pleasure in them losing their team?..........green jhedi

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01 Mar 2012 19:09:23
As a Celtic supporter I have gloated and probably goaded on this site and have enjoyed the banter. But now that the axe.would appear to be falling may I join my sentiments with other fellow bhoys like green jhedi and timalloy when I say I truly wish you all the best today and in the future. MMI2009

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Dont want your sympathy

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Why not? Celtic fans are being decent towards your clubs' plight and you throw that in their faces like a petulant child. Grow up and prove you're not totally lacking in human decency yourself to thank those who have taken the time to leave such comments.

I bet you're one of the Rangers fans whose had a go at the gloating too - you can't have it both ways or are you just so bitter to want anything to do with Celtic fans?

1903

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01 Mar 2012 19:01:05
Should get rid of the shirt and tie mob first

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01 Mar 2012 18:49:16
First time poster. I just wanted to say that I think it's terrible what is going on at ibrox. If this was happening at Celtic, I would be beside myself with worry. As much as I want Celtic to win everything, the fun for me as a fan each year is to beat Rangers so the thought of Rangers folding does not sit well. What I will say however is that Rangers must suffer for their mismanagement and pay their dues and I dont get is those who say we need a strong Rangers. I don't remember anyone saying this when Rangers were winning 9 in a row against a poorer (in a money sense) Celtic. My thoughts tomorrow will be with those who lose their job and I only hope that short term pain will result in Rangers continung as a club in the SPL as they are way too big to go to the wall.

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Poorer (in a money sense) AND on the pitch. hence the reason we won 9IAR.

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Exactly, you had more money and won 9 in a row. We don't need a strong Rangers now just like you didn't care about a strong Celtic during that period. Did it devalue it back then when you beat us cause you had far more money than us? The answer is NO so I want Rangers to continue as a club but if they are skint, as the deserve to be, I will still enjoy beating you regardless of the quality of team you have on the park

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01 Mar 2012 18:40:28
If we go down scottish football is all but finished no sky tv deal for one!Celtic would have to reduce price of season tickets no old firm game!more clubs would go down due to no Rangers travelling support,any Celtic fan who thinks they will be ok are dreaming,they could always go to Ireland as they will never get in the Premiership..

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I think we have more pressing problems to be honest. But it should be noted that whilst we have not honoured our commitment to Dunfermilne look at the consequences of just one match. Spl is in peril, Dunfermilne are not the only team on the brink, hell of a lot of debt in the SPL currently. Dark days

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Stop talking about Celtic, they are not in a financial mess WE ARE but so many fans only seem to be interested in how this will affect Celtic!

Who cares, if you haven't realised there are more pressing matters at home to be dealt with.

The Pilot!

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As a gers fan I'd rather worry about us than Celtic, if we goto the wall I couldn't care less about spl, I will never watch another game and does not concern me anymore.

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It wasn't about Celtic it's about scottish football which includes Celtic,I support Rangers and always will,the point was if we go the rest will fall sooner or later.

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And my point is I couldn't give a toss about the rest

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So you don't care if other clubs go to the wall?

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01 Mar 2012 18:19:01
Hi ed how do the admin team expect season ticket holders to renew their tickets I for one will not be renewing mine after what Whyte did he's on to plums he bought rangers with our money so he can pay it if he leaves then yes a would renew not as long as that man is their ... Kenny bluenose

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That wont help the club kenny an dont know how u can call yourself a bluenose if that is the case we dont need fans like u


TB

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TB, the club doesn't need bigoted idiots supporting the club, like was heard clearly at Inverness! These are the people who are not true fans and bring shame on the club!!
So I ask TB, if you want to pump money into the club at the moment who's pockets are you lining? Remember Whyte still owns the club! So you'd be the mug!

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01 Mar 2012 17:34:34
Hey ed I've come up with a solution that will keep everyone happy,here goes. Why don't rangers fans give up their entire ticket allocation for the up coming old firm game and sell all seats to Celtic fans? Tickets sell for say £25 that's a grand total of £1.5m into the coffers not bad for 90minutes of not a lot of effort. Celtic fans are happy as they could see their team win the league as if it were a home game. Rangers fans are happy on two counts 1. They don't see their rivals win the league on their patch. 2. Their club gets much needed money. And finally the Police are happy as this removes any chance of potential trouble. I know there is no such thing as meaningless old firm games but this is probably the closest you could get to that phrase. I know it's off the wall but what do you guys think?

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Ill not give my seat up for no celtic fan, i go to support the team!!
FauldsRFC

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Or play it at Celtic Park, derisks trouble even further, and you get an extra 10,000 into the ground = £250k revenue.

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Why don't we just leave it as it is.hump yous again PRICLESS.

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@faults even if it helped your team? Are that bitter?...really? Shame on you for that answer I suppose some folk will never change

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Wot u smokin?
Iam Legend

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@faults you might not have a team to support soon so that was just a suggestion to help your plight. @ I'm a leg end I'm not smoking anything as yet but I will have few cigars when the the rankers are down.

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Eh it's you that suggested it was 'off the wall' I was just interested to know what you were smokin to get you to think that way.
Iam Legend

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01 Mar 2012 17:08:20
Surely the first staff to go will be the scouts??

No players will be signed due to the transfer embargo so a scouting network is not needed. As for player...i'd say Alexander a cert as he must be on a decent wage and we could cover Shagger with a keeper from the U19's. Other fans on here are there or there abouts with Papac ect.

Sad time bears. Wishing all the staff and players who leave all the best.

J1985

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At least the youth will now be the way forward. Lets get behind them bears. Win or lose they really are the future and either way Ill still be proud to be a bear. If we get second at this rate we will of done well imo. CheltBlue

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Lol the scouts should of gone 6 months ago cos we werent going to sign F-all :( CheltBlue

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01 Mar 2012 17:00:03
Should be interesting to hear Paul Murray on talksport tomorrow. I'll be surprised if he gives too much away but something.....anything positive that can give us supporters some hope would be much appreciated.

What happened with the interview? I saw on here that he would be on today, was that a mistake?

Don't shoot the guy down bears, yes he was part of the previous board "who got us into this mess in the first place" but he was also the only guy pushing for a bid to rival Craig Whytes.

J1985

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Why would anyone invest at the moment, sadly until the big tax case result is announced it would be madness to put money in, it's too late and will only be swallowed up by creditors and taxman with us being no better off. By the time the BTC is decided we may have gone under even if we win it. Feck

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He was meant to be on today but he put it off until after the admin announcment that was supposed to be today which is now tomoz ....bigt

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01 Mar 2012 16:36:54
Ally should contact Sue Barker,,,she always knew "what happened next"

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01 Mar 2012 16:35:30
According to the BBC tomorrow will see
Rangers with several options one
being 8 players being made redundant
& other high earners taking a 50%
wage cut.

I think the 8 will be along the lines
of

Papac
Healy
Broadfoot
Bartley
Bedoya
Ortiz (still paying half his wages)
Fleck (still paying half his wages)
Hemmings

I think Ally will try and fight to keep
the others who are in danger e.g

Kerkar, Edu ,Aluko, Boca, Goian & McCulloch.

Alexander is needed for cover &
Davis, McGregor, Whittaker, Naismith
Lafferty, etc are seen as sizeable assets

& they will want to keep the likes of
the young scots like Wallace, Perry,
Ness etc.

As for the coaching side Jim Stewart
must be in danger of leaving.

I'm not saying this will happen but its
just my thoughts behind it nothing else.

Never forget WATP..

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Wrong... Alexander is not needed for cover if we are desperate... Greegs hardly ever gets injured and we have a good couple of young keepers so Alexander could be the first to go.
PaulRFC

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I'd get rid of edu he's been here 2 years to long as it is, that's right get rid of 2 young Scottish players and keep the players from overseas, Boca should go 33 year old with no sell on value.

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Big lee an broadfoot got to be 1st 2 out both rank n no sell on value

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Dont think aluko will go. I reckon this is why he was not offered a contract, so he was not viewed as an asset.. to be soled.

Dtp89

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01 Mar 2012 16:29:40
i'd like to say a quick thank you to the celtic fans for their messages of support today.
s-bear

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01 Mar 2012 16:23:01
Just seen peter lawells statement re tickets for the ibrox old firm game. Have to say I believe him, the DR has been at the madam for some time stoking up events and hoping for trouble. To all remember, any trouble and they the DR will revel in publishing it, it's the Scottish media way.

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Well said mate.

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01 Mar 2012 16:11:59
Come on high profile gers get this mess sorted now before we lose any staff we need what we have now. We need a buyer now not when we lose what we have got STEP UP AND BUY

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01 Mar 2012 16:11:39
CELTIC Chief Executive Peter Lawwell has today set the record straight with an open letter to the Daily Record newspaper, following a number of stories concerning tickets for the game against Rangers at Ibrox on March 25.

The open letter will appear on the Daily Record website today (Thursday) and will also be printed in a prominent position in Friday's edition of the newspaper. The letter reads:

Dear Sir,
I am writing with regards to stories which have appeared in the Daily Record over the last few days concerning tickets for the forthcoming match between Celtic and Rangers.

Having not been given the opportunity to comment on these stories prior to them being printed, it is important that Celtic's position is made clear:

There was no agreement for Celtic to pay in advance for these match tickets. Therefore, the accusation that Celtic reneged on an agreement is wrong.

The actions of Celtic Football Club have not threatened jobs at Rangers. Any suggestion to the contrary is also wrong.

There is no bust up. Indeed we are pleased that yesterday (Wednesday) we received our allocation of tickets for the match from the Administrators of Rangers Football Club.

We will sell these in the normal manner and will abide by the rules of the Scottish Premier League.

While we have no desire to become involved in the business of any other football club, we felt it very important that we set the record straight and in doing so protect the reputation of Celtic Football Club.

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I will believe it when I see it.

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Beleive what when you see it???its there in feckin black& white !!,folk like you are still in denial

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01 Mar 2012 15:50:36
think the first one to lose there job should b mcoist as celtic have went from 15 behind to 10 infront b4 the 10 point penalty.they had a full squad and he gets away with it.wot bout malmo,maribor,falkirk.cant blame whyte for that.fact

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Firstly no. secondly who would take his job? and thirdly was it not whyte who sanctioned transfer money? where was that money? did mccoist get the signings he really wanted?
Don

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Then who's going to manage us you toolbox

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Or maybe he has a small squad that isn't good enough. With the first 11 available what SPL?

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Ally has become rangers manager at wrong time, it will be a lot worse when he leaves, someone like jimmy calderwood, leave off alky.

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If you give someone 4 spanners & a screwdriver then tell them to build you an engine what do you think you will get?

Well McCoist has had 4 spanners & a screwdriver give the man a chance..........Big D

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It doesn't help when to tries to use the spanner to do the work of a screwdriver. Most of the toolkit were good enough to do the job last year. I am sure almost every other SPL manager would have been happy to have had half that toolkit.

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Super all will never be a manager ever


TB

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Agreed Big D. How can other supporters, ie. TB, say that Ally could never be a manager? The players brought in were not in the majority his first choice targets; remember Goodwillie, Verhoek, Juhasz? to name a few. Craig Whyte scuppered those deals.If Ally had got better quality players in i'm positive the team would have had better results this season. So idiots like TB, who proclaim to be real fans, should get right behind Ally and the team as it really is the darkest moment in Rangers history!

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I just think with the tools Ally could do the job as his heart is in it ...........Big D

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01 Mar 2012 15:50:10
I think now would b a good tine to restructure our leages maybe 18 teams playing twice 4 gets a bit much,more teams going down = more coming up maybe teams shareing grounds would generate more money say as now play united away 2 tv money say play united away then forfar more teams getting more money,the same 12 bar 1 is dyer time ta start again n tge leaug structure way foreward,

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It's funny how now it's nt going well for you it s a good time to restructure

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01 Mar 2012 15:27:13
i for one will not ever gloat laugh or have the feeling of satisfaction if there is even 1 person made redundant over the coming days at your club.as for the scottish press and there reporting this week it is now time for followers of both clubs to unite against them.start by emailing your MP's showing your disgust at what they are writing and how it is utter bile negative reporting from the poison pens they are holding in the hands.i wish your club,players,any member of staff,fans and supporters worldwide all the luck in the world and that you get through this

Lubo25

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All the best lubo25, nice humane comment, from a wee ger

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Lubo25 - haven't been on for a while. It was good to read your post, cheers.
The nature of the beast that is the Scottish Press thrive on the old firm divide and have done for years. Anything that happens as a result of their story just means another story to them, they don't care. They don't give a f*ck. Only way to hurt them is not to buy their rag.
Iam Legend

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01 Mar 2012 15:16:55
You can say what you want about super as a manager or his team selection or his tactics, this man has proved he is an absolute LEGEND, he is the only one at our club right now who I am certain is hurting as much if not probably more than the fans but he is fighting for us and I don't think that this can ever be taken for granted or underestimated, no matter what happens to our great club SUPER is up there with the best there has and ever will be!
PaulRFC

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Durranty will be going through the same pain mate

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He still aint a manager he is not guid enough


TB

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He had a great record when everyone was fit, its not McCoists fault that Naismith, Whittaker and Lafferty have all missed a lot of the season, and his best striker was sold.

GovanFR

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Totally agree GovanFR... He bombed out of Europe on his first try but this seems to be a common theme with recent OF managers, but he is the right guy to be fighting for us at this time...
PaulRFC

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I don't know of many managers who have had to go thro what Ally has done in their first appointment.
I am glad that with what's going on a Rangers man is in the managers seat.
We get thro this, then Ally should be kept as Manager. Durranty and McDowall will also be feeling it. I don't think with what has happened you can judge their performance.
Iam Legend

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01 Mar 2012 14:45:48
last night I was talking to my two
young nephews, both Rangers fans
and they were almost in tears with
all the news coming out of Ibrox, it
brought it home to me how the genuine
fans are feeling. I have had my
"Schadenfreude" moment but this
Celtic fan now hopes the cuts will
not affect the ordinary workers at
Ibrox. The players will move on to
other clubs, but some workers might
not get another job, it those I feel
sorry for.
I also hope Murray and Whyte get
their own comeuppance business wise
for the way they have caused this
mess. Sadly, rich people dont care
about the wee guy, trying to earn
an honest living, and Whyte and
"honesty" are strangers. Good luck
to your workers today and in the
future. Timalloy

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You need to think how you would feel if it wad Celtic timalloy, do you really think any comments Celtic fans post on here anymore makes us feel worse? Trust me it doesn't we already feel as bad as we could feel, but the world ain't ending life goes on with or without rangers.

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Where you taunting them aswell? Singing wee ditties that youve made up? Only joking Tim. When the chips are down we are all human in the end. Thanks for all your posts, it would be boring without a few "characters". CheltBlue

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01 Mar 2012 14:38:32
If we need to get rid of players before Saturday, we won't have a strong enough team,if even enough players, meaning we will probably get beaten. It's all very well saying get behind the team but we haven't been playing well all season & that's with mainly a full squad, what is it going to be like for the rest of the season ? & what does it matter if we fill Ibrox from now until the end of the season, we still won't pay off the debt. I think this is the end of RFC but we can begin again with a new team & before some idiots say what about our history etc, waken up, HMRC doesn't care about the fans or our history, they just want their money & they will do everything they can to get it.

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01 Mar 2012 14:25:09
ED does Administraters when this debacle is finally over by law have to produce figures to justify all cuts. {Ed001's Note - they do, they are appointed by the courts and the courts will keep an eye on them.}

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01 Mar 2012 14:23:53
saverangers.com we need as many pledges as possible tell everyone lets be realistic no one is going to put money into rangers while craig whyte is there but we must be ready you cant espect paul murray dave king and douglas park to go it alone the fans must be the fourth blue knight and no gerning replies about money you dont have to give thousands just donate something.

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01 Mar 2012 14:17:17
Again the biased daily record makes a fool of itself, no staff cuts today, i for one will never buy that rag again(unless there is a toilet paper shortage). Billy the bear.

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Now do you believe the celtic fans when
they say that the record is a pathetic excuse
for a newspaper

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Theres plenty Celtic fans on the comments pages, glad we have good edds filtering out the fools. Some get through to keep it interesting though ;) Disgrace for a newspaper... CheltBlue

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01 Mar 2012 14:10:03
Celtic fan here,would just like to wish all Rangers fans and employees all the best over the next few days,most of us Celtic fans who were around in the 90s will know exactly how yous are feeling.MACCA

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01 Mar 2012 14:06:55
I take it the seven mercenaries who would not defer wages have never been injured therefore never sat on their overpaid arses getting money for nothing, these are not rangers men/boys, you have fans like us who get paid f£ck all compared to them willing to give our last penny to save the club but these "players" are not willing to do sh!t in return, of all the bad news to come at me this news has hurt the most, I don't give a flying f£ck if these "players" will command a transfer fee or not , I want them out of my club NOW!
PaulRFC

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Well said Paul mate

Billyboy1

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Totally agree Paul, Those who are willing to take the cut should be praised and those unwilling should be named and Shamed! Some staff at the club dont earn in a year what some players and officials earn in a week and because of their selfishness people will have to join the ever growing Scottish unemployment line. Shocking!

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@paulrfc;i posted much the same earlier but as was pointed out to me they might be lower end wage earners.maybie debt and mortgages are kicking in for them,but it is only a wage defferall so it is money in the bank........green jhedi {Ed001's Note - I was just going to say that, they are only rejecting a wage deferral, just one month's wages being owed to them rather than paid immediately. I am sure there are no first team players at Rangers that couldn't afford it!}

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Paul why so bitter you dont know who these players are the will probably be low paid and cant survive with no wages. If it is high paid players then yes they should leave your club.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)

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@Ian... Ignored..... @jhedi I feel ya man I did take that into account but I'm still not having it like you says deferred... An you would think that the young ones would jump up first with their passion an to show the other players they may be young but they can take a couple month hit they will still be looked after man... I'm sorry I just can't get ma head round it
PaulRFC

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Paul I know what you are saying but you dont know everyones situation they may be up to their necks in debt with a new house, fancy car etc. There is every chance these younger players if it is them have thought yes I have made it and then gone out and built up massive debt of the back of being in rangers first team.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)

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01 Mar 2012 13:58:25
The only thing thats making me one bit happier today is the fact that the celtic fans who are actually true football fans are coming on here giving support at this time. Am sure if we swapped the roles we would be ripping into out friends who were celtic fans. But i think the s**t is really hitting the fan now, and its good to see a sense of understanding rather than a sense of you and us. Cheers for the posts guys. hope the dentist didnt take to teeth out ed.
Don {Ed001's Note - just one out today, and this time the roots weren't fused to the jawbone unlike last time, it actually wasn't so bad. Though I was kind of distracted because the nurse was cute and her crotch was rubbing against my arm as she leant over to help the dentist. I doubt if I would have noticed anything with that distraction!}

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Ed you are very very naughty! ;)
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - she was the one rubbing herself up against me! I am sure she will make some kind of excuse about having to reach over, but I know she wanted me really! ;o) I was more worried that certain things might jump up and that would have been awkward!}

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LOL.... That's a thought I didn't want! One that's given me a much needed laugh though! PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - wasn't a thought I wanted, in case the dentist thought it was for her or I was getting off on the pain!}

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01 Mar 2012 13:57:21
Source ssn no redundances today f*** you daily record more pish on yer back page today

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So how's is super meant to pick a team for the jambos game! This sh!ts going to happen the day before a game ffs... Surely Monday's the day this should be happening
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - he will be kept informed in advance mate.}

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The daily rexxxx can be cut into 5 inch squares and used tae wipe ur feckin ass

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01 Mar 2012 13:44:25
The Daylate Record, Stun etc get it wrong again!Duff & Phelps to hold press conference this afternoon & no job cuts will be happening until tomorrow, Friday, at earliest as no final decision has been made whether any cuts will be necessary or how many staff will go if there are. Source is stv who have been outside Ibrox/Murray Park all day & have actually confirmed this with administrators, as will be confirmed by them in their press conference today!
As has been said many times before; Unless the administrators CONFIRM what you've heard then it's just a crock of craig whyte!

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Any idea when the press conf is mate?
PaulRFC

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01 Mar 2012 12:57:38
One of Winston Churchills most famous speeches was simply " never give up, never give up, NEVER GIVE UP" good luck today let's hope the wee people get the respect they deserve. MMI2009

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01 Mar 2012 12:54:56
hi ED, do you know what time the administrators are holding a press conference today ? ... jsm {Ed001's Note - I don't sorry, I have literally just got back from the dentist so I am out of touch with what is happening.}

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Dentist again ed !? Your a braver man than me mate ;)
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I think the word is stupid!}

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01 Mar 2012 12:44:15
Just wonder if any of the so called Celtic fans who lurk around this page.

1. Actually go to Celtic games.
2. Actually go on the Celtic page.

Can't see it myself. The best bit about it is there are actually Celtic fans posting on here during Celtic home games.

Oranjeboom.

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It's strange that you feel the need to post this tripe on the day your club announce player cuts,with possibly more to come.real gers fans seem to have more on their mind. no surprise really having seen your posts before...........green jhedi

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Why are you such a bitter man,you are on stirring the shtye,decent men have come on here and said we hope you pull thru,an yet here you are talking crap,my smpathy sorta wanes when i read your posts,but im a decent human being i know not all oranje,s are bitter eh? garlar07

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Green Jed. Spends more time on the rangers page than the club crest.

You could have the same argument that why are supporters of a team with a chance of doing the treble so obsessed with another team's goings on.

I'm not the one on my rivals page.

Garla07, why do you feel the need to reply to my post.

Oranjeboom

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Oranje this just shows you up for the idiot that you are. There has been quite a few of us on here showing genuine rangers fans a bit of sympathy but for you I have none.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)

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Oranjeboom.i call you by your name at least give me the same respect,im a football supporter not just a celtic supporter,i care about people losing jobs no matter of religion, football team supported, i can safely say im not a bigot can you say the same.garlaR07

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How the hell can all Celtic fans go to the games? You do know that people can post from abroad, some might have family commitments or might not be able to afford to go - a Rangers fan at the moment should understand the concept of money worries.

Are you one of those idiots who believes you can't be a fan unless you attend the games? Bet you like to boast about Rangers fans all over the world too. Muppet.

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01 Mar 2012 12:44:14
A celtic fan here coming in peace! i will admit, like most fans i have had a chuckle to myself over the situation that Rangers find themselves in but i have to say i admire the loyalty and support a lot of rangers fans have shown over the last few weeks! Jock Stein said that football without the fans is nothing and this applies now more than ever. The real fans are the ones that suffer the most, many decent rangers fans like soeme of the guys that post on here deserve better, they deserve the truth. no matter how harsh the truth is they need to know, they need to know what is happening and what the future holds. Owners, Directors, Managers and players come and go with time. Careers in the game are short, being a supporter is a life long commitment so the fans deserve so much more than this!

i for one hope you come through this.

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Thanks man. duccablue

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01 Mar 2012 12:27:07
Today I will rise above gloating has it wouldn't be right as people are losing there jobs. I can't understand how this SIR David Murary is getting away so lightly. Me being an proud Irish man I don't believe in big name titles. I believe everyone is equal put in your culture this title Sir is a huge achievement. So I call on rangers fans united at get that title strip from that rat. He's laying in France while ordinary people losing their jobs. Shame on you Murary. Bigirishmac

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Spot on bigmac.garlar07

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You posted the below on the Celtic page earlier? That seems like gloating BigMac.

01 Mar 2012 09:47:31
Morning Ed. I hear Ant and Dec are going to be at Ibrokes today to help Fat Ally break the bad news. Mc Gregor it's not you, Healy it might be you lol just like am a celebrity. Going to be a very interesting day. Bigirishmac

MMcNeill

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Yeah see this is whats wrong. Am talking about the ordinary man on the ground. Footballers earn in a week what most people earn in a year. The ordinary people behind the scenes. You Just want to stir it. Did I post I it on this page? No. I thing you would rather if we did gloat. It kills you to see Celtic fans going easy on ya. Grow a pair. Some people are not happy on this page unless their an argument going. Show a bit of respect today would ya for Christ sake the decent fans don't want to hear it. Bigirishmac

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01 Mar 2012 12:11:48
SSN Dunfermiline fail to pay players wages due to the fact Rangers have not paid £84000 owed to them as a rangers fan i do really feel sorry for them but it also brings to light that most clubs in the spl need the cash generated from playing Rangers despite lawells comments

Highland bear

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@highland bear; they only need it cos they budgeted for it. if there was no rangers they wouldnt assume they would get it.not rangers fans fault though all whyte's......green jhedi

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01 Mar 2012 11:39:39
Is it possible liquidation is the best way forward for Rangers and the chance of fans taking ownership of the club. I feel without this event happening the club will be financially constrained for years and unable to escape the grasp of the type of vultures that havee been in control past and present. Fan ownership is the way forward and I think fans should be organised to produce funds and the ability to be at the forefront of a phoenix club.

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I dont know if liquidation is the correct way forward for Rangers a fan based team should be as it seems to work elsewhere but either way the t**t whyte walks away with millions for the immoral way he has ran your club.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)

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Its still not over we must keep fighting but if it comes to that we have to be realistic. But that's the last resort, still many fights to face up to before that. No matter what happens because we will not die we must ensure this can never happen again and a bigger say for the fans is a must. Btw thanks to the proper Celtic men who are giving us words of support on here and in life

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140 of history is hard to take.

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We the fans must be the future CUSTODIAN,S of a new club what ever its called..........les

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Theres no way liquidation is the best option. I'd rather go years without winning the league than throw away 140 years of history. If we start again after liquidation we wont be the same rangers, no cup winners cup, no nine in a row, all our league titles gone. F*** that! If we have to wait a while before we can win the league then so be it. We will come back stronger.

Lee

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F**king do something about it then - www.saverangers.com. Only 13,000 registrations is a joke! And before someone says oh its £500 minimum - WRONG! you can donate as much as you like with the custom amount. Also people are saying the Tims have been all over it, true but they are filtering out the obvious ones, like jellyandicecream@hotmail.com donating 1m etc. The tims are so daft that they are putting names that are easy for the web site to spot so they are filtered out. Get signed up now and share the website on twitter, FB or whatever else you are a member of. No matter what happens ie liquidation or not we will be ready to move to help the club in whatever form it takes.

J

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01 Mar 2012 11:36:13
Its going to be a hard day, so a wee saying from a loyal Celtic man to al my many Rangers friends.
"I am wounded but I am not slain. I shall lay me down and bleed a while, then I shall rise and fight again.' That should be the feeling of all of the proper Rangers men. Despite what lawless says this is a sad day for Scottish football

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Thank you like the verse says it all go in peace my friend

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Disagree how can one disagree I posted it and no bigger a Celtic man than me lawless was wrong fact and i hope rangers rise again fact . It would be boring without rangers fact

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For a big celtic man, it seems you don't like lawell lol (LOYAL BEAR)

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01 Mar 2012 11:06:37
if Rangers charity trust were to donate monies to Rangers fc they would be in breach of their charitable status and be closed by the commissioners

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The charity trust IS NOT donating any money to Rangers.The Gers as a rule donate money to the trust after expenses after said events.the trust have came out at this moment in time and said it does not expect any money due to the predicament Rangers find thereself in.hope that clears any misconception you might have.

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01 Mar 2012 11:16:29
So its happened.Redundancies of up to eleven players,wage cuts of around 30% for players retained.From a celt i see no point in gloating over other peoples misery.At least the players released will be able to find other clubs and there dznt seem to be any non playing staff being sacked as in these times jobs might have been harder for them to find.As for the seven players who refused a wage defferal,hang your heads in shame! You have been well paid and cant seem to find it in you to help the club and fans who paid your wages,you would have lost NOTHING as the wages would have been paid at a later date.Decent gers fans must be in shock at this shambles,between them Whyte and murray must answer questions.Supporters groups should ask why no scottish media outlets have tried to gain access to murray? noise ups from us? not today.It just would not be right.To all decent rangers fans,good luck,i hope you get your club back from this liquidation gangster............green jhedi

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Not saying it correct but who is to say the 7 that refused are the lowest players on the books have looked at foregoing a months salary and looked at their overheads and just could not manage without their pay.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)

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Thank you for your sentiment much appreciated, one of many true Celtic men who have expressed similar views thank you

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Agree with above post, some Celtic fans have shown some class in this situation as they are rational people that know nothing is good about people losing their jobs or Rangers Liquidating.

J

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Who are you trying to kid green jedi below is a post you posted on your own manky page so dont come on here with your crocodile tears patronizing us feeling sorry for us anyone who wants to see how this guy really thinks take a trip over to the septic pages and see him for the hypocrit he really is

tonyd

29 Feb 2012 22:52:18
just seen a post on the wake page about not spending anything in the asbestos arena.great idea,i hope we can spread the word and pull it off. not one pie/drink or bag of crisps should be bought.petty?..yes. effective?..deffo.they will feel it,so lets make sure.......green jhedi

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@tonyd;and your point is....of course i want things to be difficult for rangers.you will also note this was posted before the sackings threat came true.i have also never wanted rangers to go into liquidation,and never thought they would.my first post today was genuine as nobody wants anybody losing a job,we have been there and had the abuse of gers fans thats the way it is.thats why i feel for the decent gers fans in this situation.no hypocrisy here,i still want you to pay for your actions,but not vanish.as for you i really dont bother,still using "manky septic" grow up.........green jhedi

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01 Mar 2012 11:06:23
Celtic fan here Just reading about the 11 players that might be going ..Have to say it is a sad day for the club.We may have our diffrences but I feel for the players ,and the back room staff .The fans are like ourselves keep stumping up money for our club and you just hope that the people at the top are running it properly .I know how the fans must be feeling today ,so I hope no Celtic fan comes on here to gloat

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01 Mar 2012 10:56:38
Can i just ask to all tic fans i.e green jhedi, miko and taco to name but a few......... how did you guys feel when celtic were in a similar situation? obviously different circumstances but the financial side of it? were you scared incase they were no celtic? and what did you all do to try and help, maybe you could all give a wee bit of advice to the decent rangers fans that doesn't want to see our club go down, P.S al start and finish the joke just incase it comes........... Obviously Pay Your Taxes....... LOL. lets all put our differences in the drawer for a while atleast and try and unite somehow, but i do appologise about the past with mindless and childish bears back in the 90s. HOPEFULLY our bears can see its not a funny and laughin matter cos i ain't, and i really do accept criticism from tic fans, cos quite frankly am guessin WE DON'T LIKE THIS SITUATION we are in...THANKS GUYS (LOYAL BEAR)

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@LOYAL BEAR; no problem mate this aint time to gloat.sadly things have got to deep now.i posted ages ago that i thought whyte wanted this and you have to say he's been very clever in manufacturing this scenario.rangers are saddled with all the debt as he wanted,making liquidation the most likely way forward.with the tax case result to come,no one will take a chance on losing that and buying at the moment.you just have to tough it out mate.how did we feel when it was us? sick like you.good luck........green jhedi

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Green jhedi doesnt come on here to abuse like the rest pal he is 1 of the better 1s


TB

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Yeah TB i gathered that myself lol, couple of pourin salton open wound type posts but hey banter eh but you are right green jhedi is one of the better ones!, anyhoo cheers for replyin green jhedi, well i haven't really liked crsig whyte, but I've got to admit i was one of the bears that jumped on the band wagon and thought “woohoo new owner! more money better players etc“ basically lookin at the positives (if they were actually any) but didn't realise well what's goin to happen to this present moment and look what's happened lol, yeah a feel sick everytime a hear rangers on the news or radio because its a certainty that it will be worryin, only one I've heard was the one about the findings of the 6 mill and now i don't think it is really that much good news (LOYAL BEAR) P.S. thanks again for replyin mate after all celtic and rangers fans are best friends somehow but enemies for 4 times out a season lol, maybe “enemies“ is a bit below the belt i appologise.

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01 Mar 2012 10:09:38
The airport bear ... Paul Murray is doing an interview tommorow on talk sport with keys n gray !!

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01 Mar 2012 10:06:53
Getting really sick and tired of all the Celtic fans coming on and saying if you listened to us and we told you this earlier about whyte.

This coming from supporters who booed Fergus mccan.

I also wonder why Celtic park is not a better stadium than it actually is and why Celtic are not bringing in the cream of European players. Because the amount of lawyers, business consultants, analysts and general people with great abilities in the workings of running a company you would think they would be more than willing to offer their money and expertise to the club.

The fact of the matter was Lloyds were going to pull the plug and forced Murray's hand. Whyte duped all the press including those with an agenda against him now. And who is to say this was not all planned out.

Worry about your own club.

Oranjeboom

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Worry about your own club after a paragraph about celtic.............nice........green jhedi

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Spot on Oranj.

GDog
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What do we have to worry about ? our club OS not going bust or making people redundant and we don't owe any other clubs ticket money,

I can remember those immortal words from Mr Murray , for every fiver Celtic spend we won't pay the tax.

hail hail and god bless you all

Marco1888

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Weve nothing to worry about bud, thought we would worry for you lot instead. We will miss you, honest we will. Booed Mccann? When?
Only thing i can think of was we were a tad upset when he punted DiCanio, Cadette etc. But he was proven correct.
Clutching at straws as usual. Why would Celtic Park be a better stadium than it is?
Im more than happy with it, no sign of asbestos anyway,best take a mask to Ibrox next week just to be on safe side.

Joeshmo1888

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We have nothing to worry about reguarding our great club. thank you very much... your the one that should be worried ..JT..

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Heres a point, if you dont like other ppl commenting on your teams plight, dont come on this site. SIMPLES. ........JS

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01 Mar 2012 09:55:32
How's it going bears? I wonder if the cuts will be made today? I thought liquidation was highly unlikely when we first went into admin but now I think its looking more likely all the tim. Unless someone comes forward quickly with the cash or they can get this fans takeover moving quickly its not looking optimistic.

MMcNeill

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The fans don't have the kind of money the Rangers need right now.

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01 Mar 2012 09:42:55
Today will indeed be one the blackest in our history.

To all ED's I seriously think you should think harder today about what gets posted. If the usual Celtic fans come on this site today and gloat over innocent people loosing their jobs then a few hundred of us are going to be furious.

I think you guys do a great job but I think enough will be enough if idiots post idiotic statements.

I think today we need to remember this is a Rangers site. Any other time they can post what ever they want.

Not today please.

GDog
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GDog i know you are hurting terrible thing to lose,the job you love the players will be ok,its the ordinary folk who will suffer most,i for one will not be gloating.but mate lose the watp it doe,s you no favours in the modern world its so 19th century all the best garlar07

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Best post I've read! Banter when its due, I like it myself but right now we're talking about peoples livelihoods. The players will be fine I think and may find other clubs it's the people behind the scenes,office staff etc that may be made redundant.

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You talk about idiotic Celtic fans posting things they shouldnt and you finish with WATP. Get a grip man. Its like your almost waiting on a poor post coming in.

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GDog;no noise ups today.its too real now.............green jhedi

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Ok gdog no banter today but please remember that warp is derogatory. MMI2009

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01 Mar 2012 09:19:37
Personally I feel like I've been fighting a huge invisable monster that keeps coming out with new ways to hurt me every day .All I want is some form off closure to this. I want to say well that's it all out in the open, no more surprises. Then this great institution of ours can then first digest what we have to do. Then do it. We have others who rightly talk about there clubs tradition, we also have a rich tradition so be proud of it, as they are of there's. We know it will be tough but that's one thing we do, we the ordinary member of this great family,will rise and ensure our continuaty as a great tradition. Our forebearers are watching and our future are relying on us, WATP.the bear

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01 Mar 2012 09:18:25
If the Daily Record is right it seems 11 players are going today. IF so a dark day indeed. I just want to say thankyou to all the staff at Rangers for their hard work over the years to provide me,a fan, some of the best times ever. Wish you all well at this difficult moment. CheltBlue

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01 Mar 2012 09:14:10
everyday i wake up and keep hopin for good news about our club but not happening. could this really be the end of the worlds most successful team. must be somebody out there with money to save us god knows we need it. 15 years season ticket holder and in the blink of an eye it could be all gone

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Murray has a hell of a lot to answer for.

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01 Mar 2012 09:10:43
Morning ed 11 players for the boot if we beleave the papers a hope past and present boards can live with that . A have pledged ma £500 were are the blue nights we need them in sooner rather than later will do ma season ticket as well only if the thief Whyte is out this c..k is away with millions still no answers from admin team ase for the players taken 50perc pay cuts hats off to them as for other 7 who refused get them to f..k ... Bluenose kenny

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Can't we name the seven players.

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01 Mar 2012 09:09:52
Does anyone know what time were gona find out who got there contracts ripped up, also I would love to know who these supposed 7 players are who refused to take a pay cut.
Don

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01 Mar 2012 09:09:00
to a last post about ex players stepping up,just saw the interview on sky sports with charlie adam he obviously has forgot his roots

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We chased him away remember.

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01 Mar 2012 08:32:01
Rangers are a huge part of Scottish culture. The damage done to a million fans around the world is staggering and at the hands of a few people.And, it seems, knowingly. I'll still be a Rangers fan playing in a lower league but liquidation, name change and loss of history is unthinkable.

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01 Mar 2012 06:47:51
The seven players who voted against wage deferral should be named and removed from the club immediately - and get big Davie weir to personally kick them out, disgrace in our greatest time of need they don't step up. They would rather the backroom staffed lose their jobs such as office and cleaning workers - get them out now

Dannager4life

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01 Mar 2012 05:42:49
Heard that CW's absence has been explained, that he is currently in Greece organising a national takeover, they are just about to enter administration having defaulted on payments. CW claims there is no problem in the country and that every drachma can be accounted for!!

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Is it a drachma as no 1 here does euros

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I have to say that is really quite amusing.

GDog
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01 Mar 2012 01:31:34
Rangers...i want someone on the 6 o.clock news
rangers...i want someone on sky sports news
rangers,,,,i want someone on the radio
rangers ...i want someone in the papers


if you cant do or want that for yourself then what have the fans to do for YOU,,,for G-d sake stand up for yourself...we need leadership

cometh the hour cometh the man......les

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Well said les.... PaulRFC

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Chin up mate, may sound bad but it has to get worse before it gets better maybe even be a fergus mccann type thing lol, hours to spare then we are saved (( HOPEFULLY)) stewie

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01 Mar 2012 01:07:50
All of our income avenues have been systematically shut down, to be able to do this whyte first had to get rid of everyone who would of challenged him,so Bain,Johnstone ect were given the bullet (now i no these guys have alot to answer for but there's no way they would liquidate us) and when that pr!ck himself (whyte) says there is worse to come, that's not a warning from a fellow fan it's a threat from a little sh!te bag, does this guy really think he can purposely force us to fold and live to see the aftermath? I'm starting to think he may be an actual nutcase who hasn't a care in the world! I can't see how this can play out without liquidation... If any other rangers fan had a more positive spin I'd like to hear it.. PaulRFC

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Paul he may just be Murrays doop,...les

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Surely Murray doesn't want us liquidated les mate ? PaulRFC

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The way im looking at it we have to get taken over tackle big bills by way of paying up if we dont its liquidation because all assets would go to whyte , ibrox , murray park so he would walk with a fortune when sold, ive been worried ever since that summer transfer window where we looked like mugs... i know a lot of people say we wont get taken over soon but i think with the right buisness person they could get us through this because even though we are in admin we must as a brand be worth something to buisness... i cant see the fans thing happening unless they get a place on the board through new owner/s being nice... a bit mixed up i know but at the minute my mind is mush with all this p1sh... i do know i want whyte out.. craig+concernedbabybear

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01 Mar 2012 00:28:24
alright my fellow bears i did expect redundices early part of the week but does anybody think maby Paul Murray and his blue night consortium have maby put a in a takeover bid already so there maby asking the administrators to keep hold of the players the now i don't know just asking what other bears think also ed what do you think

campbell {Ed001's Note - I think it is more that it was hoped the players would defer their pay, now they haven't the administrators will try and get some offers in for players. Then they will decide how many they can cut, or need to cut, once they know if there is any income to be gained from selling players. Remember that any player who leaves early is entitled to a payout, so they will want to try and negotiate that down before releasing players. It is not like a standard employment contract, because the SFA, SPL and UEFA can refuse them a license if those payments aren't made.}

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Ed have our players said no to going without wages? That will be the last straw for me I think... These same players who sit doing f£ck all when their injured but still get paid {Ed001's Note - 7 of them voted against deferring their wages for a month, there has to be 100% agreement for it to happen.}

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Shocking mate! I take it there's no way for the fans to find out who ed? These guys should be ashamed (can understand aluko not been up for it mind you) of themselves {Ed001's Note - I am not sure, it depends on how the vote was done, but I doubt it.}

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29 Feb 2012 20:40:44
is it true ed that as well as not giving the monies to charity from the AC game and all income going to the club that we have not paid over the money from the poppy tops to the british legion if true will be the last straw for a lot of supporters {Ed001's Note - I can't confirm it as 100% true, hopefully the administrators will put out a statement soon to clear up issues like that.}

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01 Mar 2012 00:23:59
There is an easy way to solve the Celtic ticket thing, just don't give them any tickets, we sold out killie game last week and we can sell out last ever old firm game, just imagine ibrox without any tims, now that is blue heaven.

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Been done before...........green jhedi

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Yeah, been done before because the best supporters in the world couldn't behave themselves.

Oranjeboom

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Green jhedi, correct it has been done before & I can tell you it was the worst atmosphere I have ever experienced, ma uncle who I wasn't at the game with shouted out ma name (he likes a laugh) & just about every 1 thought as wis 1 of you's,people were looking for an excuse that day & I seen a few punches thrown just because some1 said people were celtic fans, so although I think it is wrong if celtic have said they will pay up front & then not do it, I would still rather have you's in the ground & winding us up than having 2 go through that again
NTYABOW

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Dont agree mate nothing beats an atmosphere where two sets of fans are going for it( non-sectarian of course), craig+concernedbabybear

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01 Mar 2012 00:04:36
I believe that whyte is nothing more than a vulture picking the meat off the bones. Since day one he has had one plan, to put us into admin and possibly liquidation. I think that his plan was to put us down the road in november when the tax case was due. The fact it was delayed put a spoke in his plans, so he then decided to not pay paye, ni etc so that admin was a certainty. I have no time for him at all, I think he is just a snake.

However as time goes by and the news gets worse my thoughts have not changed, however I am beginning to wonder if this guy is incredibly bright or incredibly stupid. What is not in question is that this guy must have the largest pair of brass boz. He seems to not give a damn about anybody but himself, which is no surprise but his comments that 50,000 fine is irrelevant. That is two or three peoples wages, what a person he really is. He then announces his intention to finish the job,does he not realise the level of feeling against him, a situation that makes his position completely untenable? How did he ever believe that he could use his tricks in such a public company and get away with it.

So he is either a lying fud or a lying stupid fud

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Do you really think that Whyte is the only
one behind the chaos at Rangers? Get real.

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