Rangers Banter Archive September 01 2011

 

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01 Sep 2011 22:56:32
One worried bear
S-bear

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Time for honesty ,do you really believe there is not a crisis at Ibrox

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I have it on good authority (within the bank) that they have been instructed by HMRC to begin the process of freezing assets tonight. I am aware of at least one person who worked late this evening to carry out the process. I couldnae gie a who believes or mocks this info. All I would say is watch the news over the next couple of days. We're right up creek and Craig Whyte is a ****!
I'm one of many who's been taken in by his bulls*it but no more.
whatever happens I'm Rangers till I die and If we end up in Div 3 I'll still follow follow!

Baybear

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Your right mate, we are , about the so called fans woke up and done something about it. Craig whyte doesnt have the money to run rangers

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01 Sep 2011 22:45:06
I've told u for over a month mr tight is planning to put us in admin, are u just going stand by and watch him do it or do something about?

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Lets arrange something then!

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01 Sep 2011 21:32:09
Alastair Johnstone just booked in for plastic surgery in L.A hes having the worlds smuggest grin surgically removed.

he warned us, we didnt listen, our net spend was less than under the bank. Yes we signed up players on new deals but anyone who thinks he done so for any other reason than to up their value and protect his investment is kidding themselves, he lied to us several times in the papers and now hes got awful quiet other than a pathetic attempt to claim he was true to his word, we were conned, he has our money now and doesnt care

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01 Sep 2011 22:31:19
HMRC officials have visited Ibrox football ground to deliver paperwork related to Rangers' disputed £2.8m tax bill.

In response to rumours on social networking sites, the club denied the tax authorities were planning to freeze bank assets in pursuit of the money.

While some of the bill has been paid, club sources said the visit was part of an ongoing process in the dispute.

The BBC understands part of the bill is still being contested by Rangers.

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01 Sep 2011 22:23:24
for a rangers support site there isnt much supporting come on bears we have a good team lets back them and stop the moaning

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01 Sep 2011 22:15:39
A few people were on here earlier asking about free agents, I honestly don't think we will sign any free agents but here are a few you might know.

Robert Pires (Aston Villa) Age 37

James Mcfadden (Birmingham City) Age 28

El Hadj Diouf (Blackburn Rovers) Age 30

Vicente (Valencia) Age 30

Mikael Forssell (Hannover 96) Age 30


I know these players aren't exactly glamourous but this is what you are left with if you don't move quickly enough-scraps.

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01 Sep 2011 22:14:02
hey guys just put on text on bbc and the tax case is mentioned again with visit from hmrc with our club denying the tax authorities were planning to freeze bank assets in pursuit of the money.lets just hope the team gel and play with the heart and desire thats carried us to 3 in a row and onto 4 as it looks like financial woe upstairs yet again . shaun h

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01 Sep 2011 21:46:16
Got to love how Peter Lawell makes a joke about the Jelavic bid, suggesting it is untrue and then claims Celtic had bids for players they rejected, any clubs names Peter or did he just make that up. Nobody wants Hooper he is just a small Kris Boyd.

GovanFR

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Agreed mate,liewell should have a look at his own s**ty team first

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He was taking the pi55 you nugget! just like whytey boy was doing to you all last night:)

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He wasn't taking the pi55 as you put it, after the Hooper 'joke'. He claimed Celtic had turned down bids for players and was clearly being seriously. You should maybe try watching before posting.

GovanFR

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Yea the irony of what he was saying clearly seems lost on him. The hooper bid was clearly a joke, the regected bids for players PROBABLY wasn't or was just so tounge in cheek that the point of the joke was lost. I don't think sky missed many activities yesterday let alone bidS! Muzz

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Emmm...so the 3 bids that Samarse knocked back were just made up were they? and what do i need to try and watch exactly?

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Wow this guy needs a brain scan, so now you are saying Lawell wasn't taking the pi55 about knocking back bids. The fact is Lawell claimed Celtic had knocked back bids for there players and was being serious, he didn't name any clubs. You really are quite dumb, Samaras knocked back the offer not Celtic.

GovanFR

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01 Sep 2011 21:39:01
Look at what people r posting get a grip if whyte never bought rangers there would b no Davis mcgregor jelavic Naismith all top players would be sold have yous forgot where we were before he came

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If all goes well and we win the case then yes we have held on to the players mentioned and whyte will have saved us in one sense but the flip side could still be lose the case and then dependant on costs/fines and all else accrued and how whyte plays his hand the players mentioned and others aswell as maybe murray park could be sold to recoup debts or its even worse administration then everything we love could be up for grabs .shaun h

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01 Sep 2011 21:25:06
Were top of the league and chasing 4 in a row why we worrying so much? Toms cant even beat st johnstone at home! Lol easy league title then money to spend for champs league :) positive mental attitude my fellow bears WTAP

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01 Sep 2011 21:21:43
If there wasnt ah 9 million bid from.liverpool , then why havent they denied it , obviosly there was was , but we cant lose our best player when theres no time to get anyone else in

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They have denied it. FACT.

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And the supposed 9 mil bid wasn't from Liverpool

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Where does it say they have denied it?

Also its bbc stating it was liverpool not rangers. also peasants there was a rumour also it was ruben kazan last night and not liverpool.

how petty you all are that bcoz u got no1 decsent in you need to find something else to complain and whinge about

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It was on LFCtv, denying all knowledge

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01 Sep 2011 20:21:25
Peter Lawell has an absolute nerve mocking the Jelavic bid-or-no-bid. Zero class as usual. The more THEY talk the worse THEY play.

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Lol true mate WATP

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If that had been SDM coming out with something like that you'd have lapped it up! But then you always did fall for his BS.

Atheist

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Relax....i thought it was actually humorous

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I totally agre with you, but why don't Rangers take this and use it as an advantage to show him and his mob for what they are.
I normally would not advocate getting involved in a slanging match with some one who clearly for whatever reason is under pressure with there own problems. However rangers can gain a lot of respect amongst our own by making a factual statement on the events surrounding the transfer bids for our player.

longstanding bluenose govan rear.

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At least we have a player like jelavic that wants to stay for football reasons and celtic who cant get rid of one like samaras even if they tried payin a team to take him

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Mocking the jelavic bid?? lol...there was no bid fools!
and i love the way you like to call him Liewell, when the biggest of all liars is running your team and continually pulling the wool over your eyes.
and it just so transpires that there was also NO BID from leicester either, so, we either have a fake bidding war going on, where whyte is trying to tease a buyer in (offers over 6.5m please) or, he's yet again trying to deflect the fact that he has no money, but tried his damnedest to keep your star striker.
open your eyes people

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01 Sep 2011 20:05:13
LAWWELL POKES FUN AT JELAVIC TALK
Cheeky person

Read more:

www.sportinglife.com/football/scottishpremier/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/09/01/SOCCER_Celtic_Lawwell.html


Shore Road Bear

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01 Sep 2011 20:02:42
have to say ccraig whyte has went too far its time for rangers fans to stand up and be counted lets get our point across to the board without us there is no club

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01 Sep 2011 19:56:22
In the last half hour, SPN have
reported that the tax people were
at Ibrox today re Rangers tax deb
of between 2 and 3 million. There was mention of a winding up order, presumably if the
debt remains unpaid. Not good fellow
bears.

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01 Sep 2011 19:42:03
what about liewell thinking he was funny on stv sport hes that funny his own fans hate him w**ker !

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01 Sep 2011 19:34:42
Sky Sports News reporting £2.8m tax bill not paid. OOPS think Mr Whyte will need to stay hidden in his tax haven. Maybe all you bears fans can have a whip round and pay it for him LOL Timalloy

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01 Sep 2011 19:13:52
Listenin to superscoreboard. Mark Guidi is less than convinced after speaking to people at Leicster that the club even made a bid for Jelavic. They made an enquiry but no actual bid was made. We're bein shafted here!

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Sven G E came out and said he wasn't happy Rangers went public with their bid because it alerted other clubs as to what they could afford. That being the case he obviously made the bid. The guy might not be throwing money around but at least he's not selling us down the river

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Selling you down the river is EXACTLY what he's doing. There are none so blind as those that will not see.

Atheist

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Mark guidi!!!!!! have you read the trash he constantly writes.

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01 Sep 2011 19:20:03
I think it's great Peter Lawwell still has a sense of humour after watching us lift the title three years on the trot. It couldn't have been easy seeing that League trophy with the Blue, Red & White ribbons wrapped round it that many times! Perhaps he can use one of his jokes to cheer wee Neil up next time he throws his toys out the pram!

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01 Sep 2011 19:19:15
rangers visited by hmrc again 2day could have assets froze. will all the pro craig whyte people wise up this guy has no money fear 4 our club.

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Maybe craig whyte has hired hmrc to advise him on how to deal with his tax issues or does hmrc stand for hm randy cat people?lol

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01 Sep 2011 19:16:47
Just seen something on sky about hmrc and rangers not wanting to pay the money saying the figure was to high. Oh oh here we go again brace yer self bears

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01 Sep 2011 19:14:46
If mr tight spent 2.5 million on goodwillie and miller everyone would be happy, tight has tried to make a mug of us all, protests to get this guy out should start next home game before its to late, give it another year and tight will have us in admin.

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AGAIN AND AGAIN, Get a grip Goodwillie aint no superstar, and with his baggage NO THANKS.

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01 Sep 2011 19:02:31
Does anyone think jelevic will be with gers Feb 1st? NOT A CHANCE.
The gers grim reaper

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01 Sep 2011 18:53:10
So peter lawwell mocks gers! Who won league last 3yrs haha idiot! 4in a row WATP

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Sky Sports News

"rangers could be forced into administration as they have not paid the £2.8m Tax bill, they are in depute of the penalty of £1.4m!"

Where is Whytes money?

DazzaBhoy

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DazzaBhoy you cannot force someone into administration because they don't pay a bill you would issue a winding up order.

GovanFR

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Portsmouth?

DazzaBhoy

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Portsmouth were faced with several deadlines to pay and they didn't. Maybe check before posting.

GovanFR

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01 Sep 2011 18:44:28
Peter Lawell is so right.......who the hell would offer £9million for a player from a scottish club? Especially one that is ridden in debt, with tax cases hanging over them and debt collectors at there door!

DazzaBhoy

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Spartak Moscow ?

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Maybe players with winning mentalities and experience of winning trophies is worth an extra few million?

Something you don't know much about?

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Why would debt and a tax case stop a club buying the best player in the SPL , back to the page that's flooded with runner up prizes Lego eater !

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Three things,1.we know for certain there was a 6.5 initial bid, ok did it get increased,nobody knows. 2. What a wonderful interview with Lawell that certainly helps the divide, what a plonker. 3.He should concentrate on trying to win something with his own club.

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DazzaBhoy you concentrate on the affairs of your own club before coming on the champions page you lot are so tied up with what Rangers are doing you seem to forget whats going on at Darkheed. 4IAR

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Your team are talking 8 mil for Ki so shut it

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Alan Hutton?

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Peter Lawwell never said anything about Jelavic. He had a wee cheap, tongue in cheek swipe at Rangers statement. Whether Rangers statement was accurate or not remains to be seen. Personally i think it was fabricated to deflect attention from the lack of new signings but that's my opinion as a Rangers fan. As for you Daz, Just you worry about catching us up mate.

Fail! Fail!

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Dazzabhoy ur the same guy on the runners up site saying izzy worth 15mill kayal an hooper worth over 10 so what the hell u talking about

T-Bear

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T-Bear where the hell have i said any player at Celtic is worth £15m?

And to the rest of you's get real NO player in Scotland will be sold in the current financial climate for £9m!

I do concentrate on my own team but as your mob are our only challengers i enjoy checking out your site, and occasionally posting (if your Ed allows). T-Bear is occasionally on our site with his views!

DazzaBhoy

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'The current financial climate' lol explain that to us as Dazza, I'm looking forward to this.

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01 Sep 2011 18:34:59
A think peter lawwell had another of his sleepless nights before having tht dig at rangers. Just shows that everyone involved wit the other side is completly obsessed wit the champions. Absolute no class whatsoever!
54 titles and still goin strong
WATP!

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Had this been a statement from a rangers director i think there is every chance Paul Mcbride would have been on the box stating this is the type of statement that inflames the sectarian divide and asking for a retraction and an apology.

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H.M.R.C.A.T.P

Did any of you catch Sky Sports news......rangers could be served with a winding up order and freezing of their assests!

DazzaBhoy

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How is he obsessed with Rangers. He was asked the question by the media and gave a response.

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Ffs get a sense of humour

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01 Sep 2011 18:27:46
I hope all of you got some sleep after I said Rangers won't sign anybody, go to bed. I was right. Do I feel hard done by? Not really. 7 new players is quite a feat considering we are almost "bust." I would have liked to see a new striker coming in. We have a goal scorer in Jelavic. None of the other strikers are up to scoring goals. Maybe Lafferty will get 10 to 15 this season? I hope so. I can't see the Irish boy getting a game and Naismith ain't a striker. Who else do we have as a striker? Under Dick Advocaat we had about 8 strikers. I thought that was excessive, but three is frugile? Naismith is good in Midfield, hence the three.

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Is it reall quite a feat when our net spend is only 1 mil ya clown?

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01 Sep 2011 18:10:17
I thought whyte cleared the debt, which amazes me that all websites yesterday were saying we were still heavily in debt? Very confusing

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The debt has never been cleared! You's really have been mugged off! Where did u think it got cleared from? An unknown universe??

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Naw he didnt

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He hasn't cleared debt, only moved it to his own company which is wavetower ltd, if Gers lose hmrc case then he be main creditor and get this money back, maybe if you did some research you wouldn't have to ask stupid questions

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01 Sep 2011 17:15:23
I see that Lawell has decided to comment on the champions business on deadline day! There is absolutely no class from that mob across the city. When asked about his opinion on jelavic's rejected transfer offer of 9million his response was " we received a bid of 29 million for hooper (Gary) fom an unnamed club, with an unnamed agent from an unknown source" WTF!!!!

Also any word on what's happening with fleck and hutton going in loan??

Big K

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Can you not take a joke ya clown.

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Thats bullsh*t. He was asked if there had been any interest in any celtic players. Jelavic wasn't mentioned. There are also serious doubt that leicster bid for Jelavic. They enquired but no bid was made. Just heard It on Clyde SS. Whytes ripping the p*sh out you's lot on a far larger scale than Peter Lawell could ever hope to.

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Eh there going on loan thats whats happening

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Think someone was telling porkies at ibrox re the £9million plus offer for Jelavic.. tut tut

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01 Sep 2011 17:08:47
Up until now, I have not been of the thought that Whyte did not fancy Ally. But I have to admit it looks more and more like it now. For a man who according To most folks is a top business man not to understand we need players to win sh*t which makes us money, is beyond me.

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01 Sep 2011 17:42:16
does anyone know who was the unnaed club that bid for jelavic. i know liverpool aswell as leicester.

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It woz put out by rangers nobody bid 9m. mark guidi said the 6.5m woz just an enquiry its all lies fae inside ibrox serious problems at our club bears.

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Mark Guidi is no guru, in fact the total opposite.

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01 Sep 2011 17:36:40
The Press Association reports that Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell has mocked the reported big-money interest in Rangers striker Nikica Jelavic, who was the subject of a confirmed £6.5m bid from Leicester, which was rejected by the Ibrox club, but there were rumours that another club put in a £9m bid for him. Lawwell said: "Well, last night we got a £29m bid offer for [Gary] Hooper. From an unknown agent, from an unknown club, from another universe."

THIS PROVES THAT THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLASS (as if we doubted it)

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What business is it of his what bids comes in for gers players, as far as I'm aware gers don't have to justify anything or explain any of their actions to him, was hoping tic would get through in Europe , now I'm more inclined that they don't, can't this man not contain himself to just dealing with the tic, after all they haven't won the league for 3 seasons , he should be asking his manager why with us on the financial ropes his team still can't compete, form is fleeting class is forever something he should acquaint himself with,oh that's right they don't understand dignity .

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01 Sep 2011 17:04:03
Well the rumours ive heard this transfer window have all been either realistic or really funny! and its all because of you guys out there and for this i think you :)

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I THINK YOU 2?!?

mark the bear.

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01 Sep 2011 16:26:17
when is the agm meeting and where is it AF never been to one before is it at ibrox

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You need to be a shareholder to attend, which you're not, because if you were you'd be notified with details of the AGM.

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No i know am not but am wanting to buy shares so am only asking a didn't say a was a shareholder i asked a question were is the agm meeting based so you don't need to get snappy maby somebody else will help with the question i asked

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01 Sep 2011 16:14:43
Ed, can you tell me if Hutton and Fleck went to Sheffield utd on loan? In the sun newspaper today it said they missed the deadline due to the paper work not being completed on time. Cheers Ed.
Followfollow81 {Ed001's Note - it seems the reports are correct, the paperwork was not completed in time, though the emergency loan window opens for Football League sides in a few days, so they can take them on for up to 93 days when it does.}

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01 Sep 2011 15:55:47
seen as we seem to be taking this american route heres a list of american players

GK Bill Hamid November 25, 1990 (1990-11-25) (age 20) 0 0 D.C. United
GK Tim Howard March 6, 1979 (1979-03-06) (age 32) 66 0 Everton

DF Carlos Bocanegra (captain) May 25, 1979 (1979-05-25) (age 32) 94 12 Rangers
DF Édgar Castillo October 8, 1986 (1986-10-08) (age 24) 2 0 América
DF Timothy Chandler March 29, 1990 (1990-03-29) (age 21) 2 0 Nürnberg
DF Steve Cherundolo February 19, 1979 (1979-02-19) (age 32) 73 2 Hannover 96
DF Clarence Goodson May 17, 1982 (1982-05-17) (age 29) 24 3 Brøndby
DF Michael Orozco February 7, 1986 (1986-02-07) (age 25) 2 0 San Luis
DF Tim Ream October 5, 1987 (1987-10-05) (age 23) 6 0 New York Red Bulls
DF Jonathan Spector March 1, 1986 (1986-03-01) (age 25) 31 0 Birmingham City

MF Kyle Beckerman April 23, 1982 (1982-04-23) (age 29) 13 1 Real Salt Lake
MF Clint Dempsey March 9, 1983 (1983-03-09) (age 28) 77 22 Fulham
MF Maurice Edu August 18, 1986 (1986-08-18) (age 25) 25 1 Rangers
MF Fabian Johnson December 11, 1987 (1987-12-11) (age 23) 0 0 Hoffenheim
MF Sacha Kljestan September 9, 1985 (1985-09-09) (age 25) 32 4 Anderlecht
MF Jeff Larentowicz August 5, 1983 (1983-08-05) (age 28) 1 0 Colorado Rapids
MF Chris Pontius May 12, 1987 (1987-05-12) (age 24) 0 0 D.C. United
MF Robbie Rogers May 12, 1987 (1987-05-12) (age 24) 15 2 Columbus Crew
MF Brek Shea February 28, 1990 (1990-02-28) (age 21) 3 0 FC Dallas
MF José Francisco Torres October 29, 1987 (1987-10-29) (age 23) 12 0 Pachuca

FW Juan Agudelo November 23, 1992 (1992-11-23) (age 18) 11 2 New York Red Bulls
FW Jozy Altidore November 6, 1989 (1989-11-06) (age 21) 39 12 AZ
FW Teal Bunbury February 27, 1990 (1990-02-27) (age 21) 2 1 Sporting Kansas City
FW Landon Donovan March 4, 1982 (1982-03-04) (age 29) 137 46 Los Angeles Galaxy
and freddy adu aswell

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I hope you copy/pasted that because if you never.....you've just wasted a good portion of your life. Least interesting post ever....EVER.

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What this posted for, go out for a pint pal. sausage bear

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01 Sep 2011 16:08:29
Big teams hold on to their big players, this is exactly what we've done. Even if the bid wasn't £9M Whyte still never sold out on us, this team is more than good enough to win the league, we're not facing tough teams.

4IAR, WATP

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Lied 2 fom day 1 u need 2 wake up man.

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01 Sep 2011 16:03:50
Barcelona being by far the best footballing side in the world why don't we take a leaf out there book and go by there philosophy of playing and developing youth instead of player past there best days, yes we might not win every game game but once these players develop we develop as a team. I see this as the only way rangers can compete on a global scale. Opinions are welcome on this thought...

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I agree we should develop youth and use them, but we have to remember, Barca don't have to sell to anyone and more to the point, players that are getting their game for Barca don't want to leave. With Rangers, and any other spl team, if the right price comes along then our top players are offski. My point is unless things change in Scotland we will never have a team that stays together from youth to peak which is successful. All said and done though, I agree, youth is the way to go, use the academy players and teach them to play a certain style (the Barca way) then when we do get another £1 million off tighty Whytey we can spend it on a specific player that will fit into our system and support our young first team.

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Listen mate have you not seen the posts on here with people criticising players before they have even seen them play or after only 2 or three games in the light blue, can you imagine what would happen if we had a team of young players who did not win trophies for a few years, back to the drawing board

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I totally agree mate a think it would be a great idea wee need youngster in a team it wont only help us out but help Scottish football out to

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You fans wouldnt wait that long-the whole ethos of scottish football and scottish youth system would need altered,if we play 1 poor game you lot have the daggers in the managers and players backs-building a team takes time most rangers fans are only intrested in bragging rights over celtic thats always been the clubs problem-weve always had what celtic do on our minds and they are the same-if we let that monkey go i think we as a collective would be far better off-
we are champions now but reading 99% of the posts on here would make you think we were 12th
steve the ger

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01 Sep 2011 15:53:11
Don't worry fellow blue noses!!
Our current squad is more than capable of winning 4 in a row + the 2 cups. Remember, it's only Scotland. We have a very poor team for rangers standards, but look at the rest of the teams. THERE PISH!!
including the great unwashed!!

Yours faithfully
Scooby, true blue!!

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01 Sep 2011 15:51:51
Whyte merely gave lloyds the cash but moved the debt to one of his own holding companies. So RFC owes Whyte the same debt that they had with LloydsTO THE ABOVE REPLY, can we get this cleared once and for all guys.
Yes debt was cleared with bank and moved to Craig Whytes company who holds the debt now, it is not hard to work out, Craig Whyte owns Rangers, so Rangers debt is with his own company so Rangers debt free as Craig whyte owes Craig Whyte SIMPLE.
Hope that clears things up for people who do not understand.

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Don't be daft mate, RFC are not debt free because Craig Whyte owes Craig Whyte. Mr Whyte bought the club and the debt was transferred into his/one of his companies names. However all that means is that RFC don't owe Lloyds bank anymore but money is owed to whichever bank underwrites Mr Whytes company. So in effect RFC are still in debt, but Whyte believes the debt to be manageable and will operate in a way to cope with such debt...i.e he won't be splashing the cash.

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01 Sep 2011 16:39:54
I say we take advantage of the brazil market, get scouts over there, get the ones with good potential, for 1-2-3million pounds, play them a few seasons here and then sell on to the english prem for double, treble and quadruple what we paid for them 2 to 3 yrs down the line!!

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The sfa would have to change its rules on work permits this is what is preventing us doing this already.

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And why would a young player leave Brazil to play here?
There is a lot more money in the game over there than there is here, There is also the issue of work permits, I'm sure if it was as easy as you say all scottish clubs would be doing it.
We are the blackwater and other countries will be thinking this about Scottish talent.
BR

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Working visa's?????

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It's getting the work permits that is the problem for us. Do they not have to have played so many international games? Being an athlete should get you in, cos we need them. If the rules were changed for the whole UK then no doubt that lot down south would attract the majority.

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Not that easy though young players like that never get work permits to play thats why you see them move to portugal and the likes instead

del

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Brazilians don't exactly have a good tack record in Scotland. Rafael Shiite anyone?

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01 Sep 2011 16:21:04
Rangers owner Craig Whyte has spent in excess of £5 million on transfers and improved contracts for key players this summer with Lee Wallace, Dorin Goian, Carlos Bocanegra, Alejandro Bedoya, Kyle Bartley, Juan Manuel Ortiz and Matt McKay all boosting last season's title-winning squad.
(FOCUS ON THE POSITIVES WHY DONT YOUso what about the money from Bougerra sale 1.7m and the money from Adams sell on £800K? Whats the outlay again? Not the front ended 5Million + you spoke of!)

Allan McGregor, Steven Davis, Steven Whittaker and Gregg Wylde have also signed long-term contracts with the Champions.
(YEAH LONG TERM CONTRACTS THAT WE PAY FOR THROUGH SEASON TICKET, GATE SALES AND MERCHANDISE, NOT OUT OF YOUR 15M KITTY!)
The Chairman commented: "We had a serious offer for Nikica Jelavic but it fell well short of the player's true valuation. Ally McCoist is building a good squad capable of competing for the domestic Treble and Jelavic and Steven Davis are key players for the team.
('TIL JANUARY AT LEAST MR WHYTE)

"Ally has signed seven new players and re-signed seven more this summer which has been a significant investment in the squad. While all Rangers fans want to see as many star signings as possible there has to be realism as well.
(HOLD ON WE LOST SEVEN PLAYERS FROM LAST YEAR!)

"Unfortunately we have not qualified for the Champions League or Europa League group stages and the Club has to be run in the correct manner.
(BECAUSE OF WHAT MR WHYTE, COULD IT BE YOUR TIGHT FISTED ANTICS AND NOT PREPARING FOR THESE TOURNAMENTS BY BACKING THE MANAGER)

"Ally and I discuss these matters constantly and he has told me he is happy with the squad he has at his disposal. We now look forward to the rest of the campaign and doing all we can to continue our success.

(DROP ALLY'S NAME TO SAVE YOUR SKIN)
"As always at Rangers, we are committed to working together to ensure a successful domestic campaign this season."

(YAWN...YOUR PISH IS STINGING MY EYES)

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Totally 150% agree. Best post iv seen so far mate. Spot on. Ger4life

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Honest i think everyone should have a say but your a complete mug (or a septioc supporter). How about u get behind the team instead. If whyte never bought the club? Good by Whit, Davis, Shagger, naismith, Jelly. No new faces as well. Why dont you just shut your face mate, you and all you band of doom merchants. I bet if we win the spl this season you'll be the first mug on here saying you have always supported the team.

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You are right on the mark with that m8. c-bear85, stop sticking up for this guy. What is it you can't see ? This man is a shrewd business man, of that there is no doubt, but not to the advantage of a football club. He has no history where sport of any nature is concerned, and the fact that he said and promised so much after he hoisted the league trophy ( which btw, he had no right to do ) has pulled the wool over the eyes of thousands of wee lambs like yourself, bleet, bleet, bleeting about how he has saved the club and cleared the debt and on and on and on, WELL, NAW HE HAS F**KING NOT !!! The hmrc case has still to be answered, and you c-bear85, are about to get yer eyes opened and the realisation might just be too much for you and all these other wee Whyte supporters, the man is a CHARLATAN, and A.J will be vindicated. Insolvency looms and Whyte will walk away in few years a far wealthier man china, BUT, ask yourself this question son, where will Glasgow Rangers be ? I'm sick of reading p@sh from people sticking up for this man, Rangers is in my blood, he has No Rangers history!! Rangers 'til I die.........

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You know Whyte must have known he was on to winner buying Rangers, it is only throught the postings on this website that I have realised how thick some off my fellow Rangers supporters are.
Criticising Rangers doesn't make you a Celtic supporter, just someone with a brain who loves the club. Should we really blame Whyte he has learnt at the feet of the master, Murray, when it comes to telling lies to the supporters, he obviously believes we are all sufficiently gullible enough that he can feed us as much crap as he likes and we will keep buying the season tickets and the merchandise.
For any supporter with sufficient grey matter to compute the facts heres a news update:

1. Out of 2 European Competitions
2. Our money used to give new contracts to players
3. Less money spent nett on transfers than the clubs takes in on annual car park fees (£7 per go).
4. Not one of the top targets signed.
5. No creative midfield player
6. No wide right player.
7. Wages and games being given to Edu, MacCulloch and Broadfoot.
8. No Big screens
9 And for good measure you will probably find the new sound system was a requirement of getting the stadium safety licence.

Yes add it all up and what do you get:

Whyte smart and us mugs.

True Blue for 54 years, season ticket in Govan Rear for 30 years and have attended approx 1500 games home and away. Average distance travelled each week to games 250 miles.

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01 Sep 2011 15:27:13
All these idoits (probably septic fans) should stop their Whyte bashing. We've managed to keep our top stars and most of them are on long contracts. It looks like we will stop selling our players for peanuts. If McCoist gets his act together and stops playing Edu/McCulloch we should still win the league. Disapointed Hutton is away on loan. W.A.T.P

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Hutton no longer away in loan the deal fell through. On STV.

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And who are your top stars?

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01 Sep 2011 15:24:53
Mr Whyte I am led to believe has bought Rangers for next to nothing. Given that, the "debt" that Rangers have has now been passed to an offshore account under Mr Whyte's company. Could this not cause a new tax affair? Would it not make sense for Mr Whyte to use Rangers' profits now and make some money whilst his company pays off the "debt"?

Rangers looking at potential Fox News deal in America with tours and all the rest of it. This money I think will go to Mr Whyte with a fraction being spent on players. The "debt" will continue to be played by the media the same as since it has been for who knows how long. As seen with sky sports last night with Jelavic saga. The so called "5 million a season" will never happen. Well maybe in Whyte's pocket.

It's a monopoly people, wake up! But still Celtic got beat off St Johnstone who couldne score inte a barrel a....... you know the rest. It is important to get behind the team and just "booo" Mr Whyte. Ally is a legend never forget these people, the board are always the deception. These guys wore the jersey not some middle-aged freak with a tart sitting next to him.

Rangers should sign Diouf and McFadden if there is any money.

Just an opinion, good site btw :)

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01 Sep 2011 15:13:45
It seems completely mental that we tried to put Hutton and Fleck out on loan! These guys Hutton should be ont he park ahead of Edu and Fleck should partner Jela up front. We have a crap squad as it is so we should defo be keeping these guys!

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Why would you put LM up front with Jelly and ahead of Laff....doesnt make sense, should we have also have McGregor on the right wing?

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Fleck isn't a left midfielder ya tube. Thts jst where he's bn played coz it's always bn a prOblem position.his natural position is the number 10 role. Shows wot u know n it tryin to slag another guy

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Why would u play fleck LM .... ahhh cos he has a left foot .... he is an attacking midfeilder, an off the striker player if u will. Basically a number 10 ... gers havent played with a player like that since buffel

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Fleck plays a couple of pos one being cf he played there during many youth games and looked good.

Club deck loyal

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01 Sep 2011 15:10:43
Seems many fans keen to knock Whyte,Ally and many of our players, no one seems to ask just what Gordon Smith's role is in all of this, personnaly i have not a clue what he is being paid for. Got to add every time previously i have asked this Ed has not posted, can only assume Ed thinks he is doing a good job and it is not worth posting.
PS.No mention of sunbeds on any responses.

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What you have got to factor in, is what factor of sun cream protection does Smith use LOL (ps no mention of sunbeds)

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01 Sep 2011 15:10:32
Our best starting eleven?
McGregor
Whittaker Goian Bocanegra Wallace
Ortiz. Badoya. Davis. McKay
Naismith
Jelavic

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Wouldnt say Bocanegras any better than Bartley how do we know Ness or Wylde arent better than Bedoya and Mckay

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I would move badoya to right midfield and play wylde wide left

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Help!!!

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Never in your wildest dreams should Ortiz be played before either Lafferty, or Wylde man. The only role I can find for this guy is to carry the WATER !! he is uter p@sh............... 4 in a row

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McGregor
Whittaker Goian Bartley Wallace
(McMillan) (Papac)

Badoya Davis McKay

Naismith

Jelavic Lafferty

Subs: Wylde, Ness, Bocanegra, Alexander, Kerkar, Diouf, Healy


A team certain to win the title and give us 4 in a row and in that formation

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01 Sep 2011 15:07:23
Once again Mr whyte pulls the wool over decent loyal fans, and pulls the puppet strings on the management at our beloved Gers.

Yeh yeh ive heard it for months now... Lets give Whyte a chance, we are in better shape than we were in a year ago, Well maybe we are and maybe we aint, however this man does not have Rangers at heart, and he has proved it on more than one occasion in the last month alone, Where is the supposedly 15m he would have as his war chest, why aint the man coming out and speaking to the fans who keep our club going, whats the problem with him and Manager, If he has not got the money then let us know, let us have the truth, we will still stand by our team, remember our motto fellow bears.

But come come Mr Whyte dont treat us like idiots, like second raters, we deserve the truth about your plans, the future plans for our team, which most owners outline long before this to the people who matter, Why have you not done this Mr Whyte.

Oh and the 9m bid by an anamed EPL team for Jelovic was a load of bull, it was a bit reverse phychology from someone inside ibrox trying to take away the heat from a certain source and im not talking about our beloved manager. why!! The lack of decent signings, the lack of at least some of the so called 15m war chest been spent and the lack of interaction between Whyte and the loyal fans.
Shame on you Mr Whyte, give us a bit credit, you came to a team of champions, you will be judged on you success accordingly. Good luck to Super Ally and everyone of you players who pull on the jersey, every true fan knows that you will do your best as per our tradition........ InMemoryofDC

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Yeh yeh, we'v heard you for months now. Whytes a baddie and looking to make money. Who cares let me paint a pic if we hadnt found a new buyer. No Davis, Whit, Mcgregor, Naismith or Jelly and no new new players. What would you prefer mate.

c-bear85

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C-bear85 is Craig Whyte in disguise !! Either that, or he fancies him..............

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01 Sep 2011 14:56:36
I think too many people forget what Whyte has actually done for us. He has signed our best players up on long terms deals and brought in some new additions. If it wasnt for him I would hate to see what position we would be in. Our failure to get through to the knockout stages of two of europes biggest competitons has put a block on our spending. Remember we have to be run as a business and to spend millions on players that we DON'T need to win the SPL. Next Year I hope it is a different story if we want to progress in Europe

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01 Sep 2011 14:24:58
whyte never spent yesterday because he,s waiting to see how much he,s to pay to the inland revenue. this year is a settle in period. upgrading ibrox, inportaint squad players on new contracts, 2.8 million tax bill etc but the big one coming soon up to 50 million tax case.if we went on a spenfing spree would fef go in to admin.

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Thank you i posted the rant below and finally finding people that are sensible and dont want to go out and rattle millions and put us back where we started if we win the league by only spending 1.5m then what a great bit of business.

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Thats bot the way a tax case would work, whatever party wins the case the loser in it will more than likely appeal the decision, therefore in theory the case can drag on for some considerable time certainly longer than next summer, sorry to blow that tax theory out of the water for you .

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01 Sep 2011 13:56:43
Right lets get this dealt with. We did not spend because we did not get into europe and the squad we have give or take a few have won the title 3 years on the trot against what is basicly the same septic squad a cuple of wee boys and an angry man in place of izzafairy aint gna change tht so stop gettin your knickers in a twist. Did you want to see money being pissed up a wall on flops that would see us back in the position we were in before? Yes we should have secured enough quality to get into europe but did any1 out there genuinely believe we would of been beaten by 2 very average sides the only people that let us down there were the players. So come next summer if the title is ours and the HMRC case has been dismissed or dealt with then and only then will normal business be resumed and the spending will be resumed. So until then get off everybodys back cause crying on a website or tryin to arrange protests isnt going to make the team perform better get behind them all and lets win this league so that the real Glasgow Rangers can return WATP

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01 Sep 2011 13:37:36
i wish every "Rangers fan" thats slagging Mr Whyte and Ally who is one of the ledgends that gave rangers its name today. just to support the team that you grew up beliving in. iv posted on this site for a few months now and am speachless to how you can call your self rangers fans by the way you act. I think alot of you need to listin to a few rangers songs like Follow Follow and have some pride because what we have now is far better than we would of had if whyte pull d the plug on us. so time to back the team in full support for 4 in a row. Champions leauge next year.

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Away and learn to spell

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Lol Away and learn to spell. You are exactly the type of person hes talking about so how bout u stop greetin n get behind the team coz should we win the title this year the only fools will be all you moaning C*nts

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Thanks for the back up m8 n as for the spelling my key board if Fu*** so away and learn how to support a football team. Timy

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Look mate no one is saying they aint gonna support gers anymore or are gonna start supporting someone else, we are however voicing our concerns like we have the right to. Iv your PROMISED something and u do no live up to that promise then you cant be suprised wen the people you promised aint happy. Big difference at not being happy with your team and not supporting it. Come an old firm every genuine rangers fans will be goin off our nuts if we win again u know this.

The fact of the matter is that Whyte never said this year would be a settling in year, upgrading year, what he did say was that we will be looking to add some quality to the team to really help Ally out in his push for 4inarow, he also said that if needs be he will give ally more than the 5m he said.

Now come the end of the transfer window and we have spent less than he initially said, I dont wanna hear about new contracts and waht not, whyte never stated the budget included that, but if u do wanna go down that road u could say that for all the players that left then their wages etc would be added onto the budget if u know what i mean? i highly doubt it.

I dont know if Whyte is conning the fans but this is how i personally feel. I feel Whyte has made promises that he hasnt kept and to be honest i dont think he had intentions of doing so.

I really feel for ally in all this ..... is he good enough for management ? i dont know but i do know that Whyte has defo made his job a lot harder than it should be.

But as I said we shall follow follow regardless of our state on the pitch and hey .... WERE TOP O THE LEAGUE ! will be be there come the end of the season tho ?

ps i do think it should be mentioned that surely there can be no excuses for lennon and celtic if they dont take the league this year ..... i wonder if they will "celebrate" 2nd again if it happens?!

Germinator

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01 Sep 2011 12:41:17
Fed up with the slack Mr Whyte is getting. We have 5 Mill each season for 5 seasons. we spent roughly 3mill this window with the sale of bougherra and money from adam. if we had spent the full 5 we would have nothing left for janurary then when we signed no one then all the so called fans would be raging. judge McCoist and Whyte at the end of the season. team wld be McGregor Whittaker Goian Boccanegra Papac Naismith Davis Bartley Wylde Jelavic Lafferty subs: Alexander Wallace McKay Bedoya Ortiz Edu Mculloch. and we can try bedoya and ortiz as back up strikers as both have played there for previous clubs

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We spent net 900 k

Joke

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01 Sep 2011 12:25:53
My observation is that the Jelevic bid was a complete smokescreen. Anybody in this current climate that gets more than double what they paid for a player who has only been with the club less that 2 years would bite the hand off. We were never going to sign anybody on deadline day and thus the illusion created by keeping Jelevic appeases the fans and creates the feeling that we have actually made a signing. We have spent pennies and the players who have come in are worse than what we let go. Disgruntled Bear!

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01 Sep 2011 12:19:13
Seems that everyone on here was s**tting themselves so much about Jelavic, that no one noticed we failed in a bid to sign South African Siphiwe Tshabalala from Kaizer Chiefs, Tshabalala's business manager said our £100,000 offer was an insult.

This just kind of sums up our Summer doesn't it, Whyte has no money, forcing us to make ridiculously low offers for players and thus missing out on our top targets, and instead signing 'scraps'.

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This was only reported on and African sports rumour site, it was then picked up by a supposed jurno. No other reports in the main stream media. I don't believe it at all

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01 Sep 2011 12:18:33
Loans for fleck and Hutton fall though!

Woohoo :)

BlantyreGer

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01 Sep 2011 12:15:23
The mystery agent that bid £9m for Jelavic supposedly had a Lurgan accent and you could hear a Geordie giggling in the background!

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01 Sep 2011 12:11:30
Heard from a good source Rangers are now a penny pinching joke, who make up fake bids so they can attempt to spin things in the press.

Also hearing they have the audacity to put up headlines like " Gers involved in late deals" (Little etc being loaned OUT) and " We're in Great Shape" (just because he didn't sell Jelavic and that wee d++k Davis)

We are in terrible shape. McCoist is a yes man and his comments to the press get more embarassing on a daily basis.

Whyte is a complete charlatan. Today he is banging on about Rangers fans being "realistic"

Is a 100k bid for a 60 times capped player "realistic"

Hit agree if you think this will be the worst season in living memory

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Being realistic is paying for your season ticket at the price Rangers set to watch quality players take the field for our beloved team. I hope the players brought in show they are good enough however how would Mr Whyte like to negotiate with 40000 fans who think the price of their season tickets are to expensive!

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So is McCoist suppose te come out and say we're doomed? What would that say? It would get him sacked fer one cuz no one wants a gaffer who doesn't beleave in his team. I hope we win the league and spend big next summer just te shut fair weather fans like you up. If you want te whine about a team go te the other side of the city. WE ARE STILL THE CHAMPIONS WE ARE STILL THE PEOPLE!

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100k for a guy with 60 caps woulda been bad, but this guy has 99 caps! Which makes it slightly worse lol

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HIT disagree if the poster is a ce*tic Fan?

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01 Sep 2011 12:08:54
Just reading the article on the Rangers website from Ally and Whyte ,what a load of guff , happy we kept players , happy with squad , what did Ally do next ,role over and let Whyte play with his belly for treats ???

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01 Sep 2011 12:04:46
Last nights transfter deadline just proves, EVERYTHING said on this page is a load of s***. Whyte has paid the debt, brought in 7 players, signed the top names to long term contracts, upgraded Ibrox(3mil), and there's still free agents and loan players to be decided after Friday at 5pm. Just because he hasn't brought in "massive" names, but you're all too quick to forget the Dick Advocaat era that f****d us as a club financially.

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True. Although i dont think the debt is fully clear yet my friend

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I think u are right about him upgrading ibrox and extending the contracts of better players, although the debt hasnt been paid at all. It has just been transferred to whtyes company meaning rangers owe hi the money instead of the bank so that allows us some freedom. In my opinion if Rangers are more than 10 points clear at anytime this season or next they will enter administration and as Whyte is the only creditor he can accept any payment plan on offer, such as 1p per £1 allowing him to settle the £30million debt for just £300,000 then we would be completely out of debt and he would have only had to pay a total of around £300,001 for our mighty Glasgow Rangers. It is how he made most of his money, buying businesses that are in debt, taking the debt on himself then entering admin and paying back as little as possible and then selling the business for a large profit.

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Whittaker is having a nightmare and probably cost us a place in the c/l, so don't include him in the "better players" bracket, please !

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01 Sep 2011 11:54:23
Says on the official website that we have spent in excess of 5 mill but fails to take into account the people we have offloaded and the money brought in from them witch mean roughly at the most 2 million was spent. Mr white has brought in players that wouldnt get a game in leauge 1 down south. Al make a judgement on mr white: hes a con man. AL FRONT LOAD 20 MILL HE SAID, What a load of crap. Fooled us all. Lets hope ally is a miricale worker

IN ALLY WE TRUST

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01 Sep 2011 11:49:16
mccoist thinks squad is in great shape.who's he trying to kidd
he be out ajob before christmas
mr white i wont be renewing next year you have conned all us bears WATP

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Compared to fat Ally I'm in great shape

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01 Sep 2011 11:47:28
Can someone please ask ally why we loaned out 2 squad players when over the last few weeks they were on the bench what happens if we get a few injuries again we will be struggling to fill the bench like last year.

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Aye wait n i shall give him a qwick call..

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01 Sep 2011 11:47:14
Question for the editor - is it today the 25 man squads for the e.p.l are announced?
This might give us a chance to get a couple of loan signings by using the money we have due to the departure of james beattie.
We have also have fleck,hutton,and little out on loan who can cover if we have injuries.
Is edu better than hutton?we let adam go so hope we dont make the same mistake with hutton. {Ed001's Note - yes the squads are announced today and personally I think Hutton is potentially far better than Edu.}

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01 Sep 2011 11:44:33
MCCOIST HAS TO GO.

WHYTE WANTS RID OF HIM AND
THATS WHY NO MONEY WAS SPENT
BRING IN RAY WILKINS

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01 Sep 2011 11:41:43
Hutton n fleck loan deals fell through. STV

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01 Sep 2011 11:35:09
all those people who said wed sign this player or that and ended ur sentence with he word FACT.well you were wrong FACT

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01 Sep 2011 11:24:25
Just been looking at the full list of transfers on MSN UK and it is showing that we signed a CD Rabiu Afolabi from Red Bull Salzburg. Did I miss something? I don't remember ever seeing this guys name mentioned.

Ed can you confirm that we have signed him? {Ed001's Note - he plays for Monaco.}

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01 Sep 2011 11:31:11
Well its all quiet today, and no wonder! I know we all hoped for a couple more signings. I have to admit I am perplexed by our dealings last night. For me offloading Hutton and Fleck was a mistake, perhaps they wanted to go for football reasons, if so fair enough. I do fear though that Fleck will be off for next to nothing and he will be a success. I will call it the Charlie Adam Syndrome. Some supposed fans abused him and I've heard probably the same people on here giving 'Fat Fleck' the same treatment! Some of you have no clue, no clue at all. I hope they return better and with a chance of playing.

As for Jelly I hope his heart to heart with Ally over the phone is the truth. If so he needs to come back from International duty and show us the form he gave us at the end of last season.
Now the real hard work begins in blending this new team. I am genuinely looking forward to seeing Bedoya and Mckay helping Davis create something from midfield he needs the help as he is starting to play like Ferguson and coming too deep. That just wont work.

Am I happy with our dealings on the whole -No! However I am more disillusioned with Scottish football than Rangers after all we are now used to this scraping the barrell approach.

Maybe Rangers and Celtic should now push for admittance to The Championship, cos the money in there and the quality is growing faster than any other league! It really is frightening!

Any hoo, bring on Dundee United.

GDog
WATP

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01 Sep 2011 11:26:44
No surprise no one is posting anything think we all realising that our club is heading for rocky shores . T he people running our club are officially liars we were told money would be made available for squad improvement where has it improved theirs a theory that if everyone fit all the signings we made might. Not even start games with the exception of doian I think mccoist thinks this is best team and form.
Mcgregor
Whitaker
Doian
Bartley loan not our player
Papac
Edu
Mcculloch
Naismith
Davis
Jelavic
Lafferty

Mccoist said he needed players to go straight into the first team

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01 Sep 2011 11:26:37
Right fellow bears!! The transfer window has closed, and whether ur happy or not,lets get behind the team and cheer us on 2 4 in a row!

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How can you say that a guy who takes a job with the expectation and pressure on him as rangers manager is weak? He is a legend and his reputation is on the line here, give ally a bit of credit here for taking this on! Unbelievable for you to assume he's a weak man, Unless you know for a FACT somehow. Let me guess an insider or a reliable source maybe? Get behind the man instead of making stupid comments like this!

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01 Sep 2011 10:40:05
Ins
Goian
Ortiz
Bocanegra
Wallace
Bedoya
Bartley
McKay

Out
Bougherra
Huton + Fleck + Little (Loan)
Beattie

New Contracts
Davis
Wylde
Shagger
Whittaker (all 5 year deals)

Is this bad business? Not for me. We've kept our title winning side more or less and replaced the big superstar Bougherra with a good solid, no noncense centre half in Goian. We have signed the best young left back in scotland in Wallace. Bartley who can play centre half+Defensive midfield, Bocanegra who can play across the whole back 4 and Bedoya and McKay who we don't know too much about but at least give us options in midfield. We kept our top striker in big Jelavic, so maybe the only disappointment was we didn't get another striker in but we are in a far better position than last season. The emergence of Ness, Perry and Wylde is also a great sign. Given our inactivity in recent transfer windows i am pleased with the players we have brought in. Ally will win the league + a cup this season and possibly in January we could see a Jamie Murphy or Johnny Russell added to the squad, so i'm more positive than negative about most moaners on this site. WATP

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Add weiss and deouff to the outs and we have NO extra numbers. Ally said his squad needed numbers "urgently" WTF Give it 5 mins and he'll be in the papers telling us it's just super we kept Jelly. The man is weak. In the dressing room and the board room

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Well stated mate. Ger4life WATP

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01 Sep 2011 10:21:50
Aw well, transfer day deadline has came and went and everybody's claim of this guy n that guy coming through "good source's" has gone with it. What a bunch of plonker's. Let's get real, With no money in the Scottish game, no Champions league or Europa League, there never was going to be a "marquee" signing. We've still signed some decent players, good enough with the players we already have to win the SPL. Support the team. WATP

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How about he just stopped being a **** and signed the 3 players Ally asked for in the 1st place and we would be IN the CL.

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Cant belive Gers fans can disagree to this post. WATP

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01 Sep 2011 10:35:20
So if we had been told a couple of months ago that we would sign 4 defenders and 3 non-attacking midfielders Im pretty sure most of us would have been disappointed

Thoughts?

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01 Sep 2011 10:27:50
OK, I must be a bit hard of thinking... can any one of the "your are not a Rangers fan, if you slag Ally or Whyte" mob explain to me how a net increase of ONE player to the "depleted and tired squad" Allys words, help us win the title? In fact if I am not mistaken, what with loan players going back to their clubs, we are now one player LESS!

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Spot on !

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01 Sep 2011 10:10:45
Am I the only person who believes the sale of GRFC to Messrs White and Ellis was a con job.
Promises of funds unfullfilled - bargain basement buys.
Thus far this is the worst Rangers Squad / Team I have seen in years.
Ally McCoist is a brilliant person but a lousy manager. Gordon Smith - what is that all about.
Might be worth looking through the list of free and unattached players, there may be something there.

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01 Sep 2011 10:07:50
could someone from rangers please tell the fans
how we made so many offers for players never got who we wanted,then get mediocre and then say ally is getting 100% backing.

is whyte got the cash or is he waiting to bring a new manager in at christmas which is my guees then fund him,

hard times ahead for ally

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01 Sep 2011 09:49:06
Thats it people stop hoping (because that's what you are doing), we knew we werent getting anyone in.

Now we have to concentrate on what we have and try for 4 in a row.

Personally can't see us getting it. Well done Mr Whyte.

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01 Sep 2011 09:47:40
In to regards to the person slagging off fellow bears cos we simply don't have faith in mr talk shyte,? This man promisd to wipe of debt and make funds available to mccoist so he can strengthn the squad, he hasn't wipd off our debt and we havnt signed 1 single player that was on mccoists target list, so how can a back him when a worry about my team? He must see we need quality players in yet he has failed to deliver! Was at ibrox on sun, and that has to be the worst performance I have ever seen at ibrox, the players look uninterested and even gers fans were arguing wae each other that's wen ano things are bad rab

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01 Sep 2011 09:46:28
Morning all fellow Gers,I believe last night we seen how much faith mr whyte has in super ally(not alot which even a blind man could see),it is clear for all that we are in desperate need for another striker but he has failed to deliver whilst loaning out 2 valuable squad players ??
Fingers crossed our even slimmer squad can keep us in the title race till the next window.

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01 Sep 2011 09:45:59
So, let me get this straight. Ally told us in his new managerial glow that his main concern was to "get these boys some help, they have done so much for the club over the last season that we NEED to get some numbers in to take the pressure off". Deadline day non in, 4 out... Now bear in mind he also told us before the Aberdeen game 13 players were out injured, so he knows we are more than stretched... Will he come out today and defend his "look after my players" stance, or tell the press that he is delighted with Whyte for keeping Jelly and his squad is strong enough to win the league... watch this space

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Ally will say what he is told to say by Mr Shi, eh Whyte...

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01 Sep 2011 09:16:25
Looking the team we now have, as soon as our players get fit we will have a team strong enough to win the SPL! Win the league rthis year and go straight into the group stages which will make us more attractive to some bigger names. I can still see Diouf coming in (altho he does nothing on the park) because ally likes him. And for all u Whyte haters out there, he has had nothing to do with the transfers! Whyte has been, and still is, too busy clearing up the mess that the old board left behind! Remember them? The board that nearly ran the club into the ground!!

Rangers Blue WATP

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01 Sep 2011 09:12:27
Can all the Smeltic supporters go back to their page and have a little toss thinking about your new signings! The fact is that we are the Champions and you have to raise your game to beat us but we know it will be 4IAR because even with your new additions we still have a better team because even with half the team out we are still top! To everybody else we know what hand we have been dealt so lets get behind the team and put aside your feelings for the hierarchy and help the boys to the treble! WATP!

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01 Sep 2011 09:07:47
So Craig Whyte stated that he would be judged
at the end of the transfer window, would any1
like to start judging him

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01 Sep 2011 09:07:04
is it not today that the EPL clubs announce their 25 man squads? we could get someone on loan today

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01 Sep 2011 08:58:34
Is anyone else wondering whyour thread baer squad cod loan out 2 players? Fleck I understand. We are down to the bare bones and when u balance $ in % out we have spent ledd than 500k. Do this years SPL winners get automatic entry to cl groug stages. So whyte u cost us 15 m this year ang prob 15m next yearwith you thight fisted ways and absolutely no football. Knowledge

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01 Sep 2011 08:51:20
I dont want tell u I told so about whyte but I told u so.
The gers grim reaper

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01 Sep 2011 08:48:01
Let's not be hasty, we have got rid of Beattie and put 3 players out on loan to free up some wages.

Maybe Ally has done this knowing that the loan window opens in a week and there may be some good players that have been frozen out once the Epl 25 man squads have been announced on Friday.

It was disappointing not to get anyone in but we had already brought in 7 players so was there a need to panic buy when no big players were leaving.

There may be something in the pipeline next week and all the rumours will start up again tomorrow once the 25 man squads are announce.

As I have stated on here before no matter who we do or don't get in i will continue to support the team as long as they are giving their all for the club and I would expect all true fans to do the same.

Mr Whyte may take a bashing in the next few days but he has got us 7 players, signed up the major players on long term deals, and has got the bank off our back. Maybe just like Ally he needs time & once the tax case is solved then we may have a different approach.

4-in-a-row.

The Pilot!

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01 Sep 2011 08:43:35
Now the transfer window is closed, can we reflect on how our new owner has faired so far? Mr Whyte has not covered himself in glory with great signings or indeed splashed out financially in any significant way to bring in players. I believe their has been a lot of spin going on with regards to millions being spent on potential signings of which none have materialised. However we are in a considerably better position player wise than we at the back end of last season. Our better players and the core of our championship winning team have been kept and in many cases given new long term contracts. These new contracts would have eaten into any monies available to bring in players but with our financial constraints letting McGregor, Davis and co wind down thier contracts would have been financially suicidal as the monies to bring in decent replacements would have been beyond our finances at this point in time. The stadium is being given a revamp at about £1m with the big screens being repaired and the usual lick of paint.
So money has been spent, how much we really dont know! is the team in a better position than last year....probably. Will we win the league....only time will tell. But
WATP

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01 Sep 2011 08:37:10
I was really hoping I'd wake this morning to find we'd signed one of the players we need. Instead I'm greeted with the news we released one an somewhat stupidly, put 2 on loan that we may need this season. I really do not understand
S-bear

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01 Sep 2011 08:34:09
ALl these people moaning get a grip!

Yes Whyte promised us lots of money.... but hes still got us in a better financial position, We have our best players and whittacker signed up on long deals, we have improved our squad! I am not overly convinced by whyte but with
Mcgregor, whitts, bartley, goian, wallace
naisy davis mckay wylde/bedoya
jela and lafferty, then a bench of alexander, papac,ness, edu, ortiz Healy and youngsters we should win the league! stil got weir broaders and lee super lee aswell!

Yes Diouf would be funny again but waste of money!! Hopefully we can bring in Mcfadden , thena couple more in January!

BELIEVE!

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01 Sep 2011 08:30:37
I am really disappointed in Whyte for the lies, and I am concerned that we didn't add to the squad in an attacking sense. But the window is shut so I will support the team, roll on Januray, lets just hope this group of players stays fit because our first eleven is alright (except Wylde) but after them it gets worrying.

GovanFR

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Roll on january...what for?

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01 Sep 2011 08:29:52
I can't understand why we tried with so many bids to get Goodwillie but we never signed a striker before the deadline ? having said that, i suppose we could sign someone who is a free agent outside the window.

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01 Sep 2011 08:26:17
Fellow bears I hope I'm not alone in thinking this, given the recent fall in standard of player/ money spent on transfers i think it's time changes were made to how our game is ran countrywide, this isn't a rangers only problem. The first change I would make is to introduce 1 free child per paying adult for every spl game. Gone are the days where football was an affordable day for families whoever you support, and as a result attendances have fallen. What better
Audience to potential sponsors/ advertisement than a full stadium of families. Get our stadia full again, the loss in revenue from ticket sales would eventually not be noticed due to increased sponsorship.
Second change would be to introduce a voluntary donation at every home game for every team that would be used only for transfers or youth development and would be audited independently to ensure clubs didn't fiddle it into the running of stadia wages etc. That way fans can have a direct impact on quality on the pitch, take ibrox as example say 25000 fans donate £5 at 20 home games in a season that equals 2.5 million more than was spent this year for example.
Third change would be to stop only showing away games for old firm on tv, nothing turns fans away from our game more than this, it's embarrassing, no offence to st mirren but for a new stadium it's a disgrace, you can hear every man and his dog clear as day as if they were sitting on your sofa, and some of the stuff that's been broadcast is shameful, the commentators eventually have to apologise for the colourful language. Show the best this country has got,get ibrox and park head back on the telly

Thoughts anyone
A deep in thought bear

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01 Sep 2011 08:22:02
4 out and no-one in last night is a little bizarre but its done now, let's get behind the boys and Ally! Remember were the champions!! But Coisty please drop the forking suit I want to the the legend that was jumping about the touch line against United at Ibrox when Walter came back!

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01 Sep 2011 08:20:08
Ok, I do feel like I have to defend Whyte a bit here. For starters, this club is in better nick than it was before he took over. Secondly, he – contrary to popular belief – HASN’T asset-stripped the club. And, lastly, the transfer budget may have been larger, if McCoist (and remember, only HE can make decisions on the playing front) hadn’t deemed Whittaker to be one of his untouchables and encouraged Whyte to finance a five-year, £20K-a-week contract for him. Just saying.

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01 Sep 2011 08:13:30
I think Whyte seen us finish season on a high playing well and he genuinally believed we could qualify with that side for Champions league and so we spent a fair bit of cash and effort resigning our KEY players.
Then we got gubbed and the s**t hit the fan, suddenly we were £15m down so our targets were revised accordingly.
We knew our 1st 11 are good but needed a few squad players to give us options in middle of park and in defence especially.
We have lost Bougie who has slowly declined in past 12 months so was no great loss in my opinion, done a good job but always wanted to leave.
We added Wallace, Goian and Bocanegra who are all good signings and resigned Davie Weir if we need him, and Bartley on season loan great business.
In Midfield we added Aussie Player of Year for centre of park to give McCulloch and Edu some competition with Davis and Ness both real quality in there as my 1st choice
We have signed 2 wide players in Ortiz and Bedoya, Ortiz hasnt been as bad as some fans make out he has scored and got 2 assists (maybe 3) in 5 games he has started and by all accounts Bedoya is the better of the pair, we can stick Naismith or Lafferty on either side also.
Then we have Jelavic bids knocked back so we get to keep a fantastic striker who has looked out of sorts recently but now windows closed he will start banging them in, add Lafferty or Naismith or even Healy occasionally and we have plenty of different partnerships.
We needed Fleck to get more game time and to get shot of clubfoot and Beattie 2 out of 3 aint bad!so give the boys who are top of the league ur support and remember they never signed Keano, Bellamy, Gordon or Given and Samaras is still there and both he and Hoopr are now unsettled, theyre defence is shambolic and a LB on loan wont solve CD issues ANY injuries and Mjallby will need to play 4 IN A ROW!!
Gwak1873

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01 Sep 2011 07:57:36
Why is evryone beeing so hard on diouf he did nothing wrong last year . He was loaned last year to stop evryone talking about the loss of kenny miller and it worked plus didnt he score a goal that helped us past sporting lisbon plus the reason hes fallen out with steve keane is because ge showed up to train in a rangers top plus he was trying to talk goodwille out of movung to blackburn


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01 Sep 2011 07:41:01
First thoughts: Shyster Whyte and side kick Ellis conmen the pair of them!

Well thank you very much Dr Whyte and Mr Smith AKA Scrooge McDuck, can anyone tell me exactly what smith dose, (the same as he did at the SFA me thinks, sweet fanny adams, nothing!)
I do think that all said and done Whyte no matter how you look at it has been Rangers saviour for sure, however I just look at him on match days and I see lies and descent in his eyes! hope Im wrong.

I do however stand by the business the wee man has done so far, I actually think the team will settle in and get after it, the wee leprechaun from the dark side has shown his lack of an eye for putting a working squad together so lets stop all this nonsense and get behind our beloved Glasgow Rangers. (World Famous dont forget)

I do think that El Hadji Diouf will come on board, (free agent)! however it will all come down to the wages! I also like what he has done with the loan deals till Jan, very shrewd lets just hope that constant first team football brings the beast out in them, then we will have squad back up for the back end of the season and the run in. So come on lads, the futures bright, the futures looking decidedly blue with silver tints.

God Its great being a bear.

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01 Sep 2011 07:40:16
Some people in the west of scotland just plain daft, on rangers we still have people posting utter dross about free agents coming we never even signed any1 on loan yest, has the penny not dropped? We dont have any money, on the celtic side we have idiots believing they have signed the new larsson for 2 million, if he is that gd why didnt 1 championship team never mind any prem teams go for him?

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Blackburn tried to get him ya knob

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01 Sep 2011 07:13:08
Have no fear brother bears I have heard that we can still sign buy players today as the S.F.A had the day off yesterday they were all on jury duty at edinburgh sheriff court lol
WATP

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01 Sep 2011 07:10:21
I said over a month ago that Whyte is in this to make money.

1) He paid £1 for the bears, set up a Ltd company and transferred the debt to that company then added every penny spent since the takeover to the bank debt. Whyte showed the bank he had money but it was always his intention to use it for development.

2) Every penny owed by the bears to Whytes company is a secured loan.

3) Whyte knows the HMRC case will go badly. RFC will go into adminsitration.

4) Whytes Ltd company will get paid before HMRC because the money owed is a secured loan.

5) Whyte & Ellis will sell themselves Murray Park & other land owned by RFC at a fraction of the cost.

6) RFC will be sold for a realistic price.

7) Whyte & Ellis will make a fortune from housing & shopping developments and David Murray will get a hefty backhander.

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01 Sep 2011 06:32:24
Wow, For F*ck Sake, All doom and gloom, got a funny feeling the merchants ( yes am lookin at you lot ) fail to realise malmo should've been a walkover with killies squad, you want another crisis? seems like it, give Whyte a bit of lee way, losin out on £15 mil is a hard hit for any owner, you forget whittaker both games, Ally Signed his new deal, Ally

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01 Sep 2011 06:26:20
The squad we have is dire! Only a couple of players with any passion and desire to play for the shirt!

We went for players to increase Rangers brand! None for footballing reasons.

The club got players tied to longer contracts again not for footballing reasons but to increase their sale value.

With no real passion from players and also owners no wonder the "Ibrox roar" is now a faint whisper.

The only passion on display is at BF1. Things have to change!

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01 Sep 2011 04:04:00
Judgement day for white n a cany say am plaeased way him. At all he is in it for his own pocket n thats all coz a billiionair widny mind tae spend a good 5 or 6 mil on players if he is gone tae get it back we shoudnt stand for this this is our team we n he is gone to destroy it

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01 Sep 2011 02:18:25
It's pretty obvious the rhats from the Darkside are on here and have got most of you reeled in.

I suppose when you've not won the league for going on 4 year and won 1 trophy in the last 3 seasons, you need to deflect attention away from all that

No more BS about Mr Whyte, God only knows where we'd be without him. McGregor, Davis, Jelavic are all still here, Goian looks like a steal, Wallace has been immense, Bedoya & McKay will give Davo a bit of help in midfield, Naismith, Lafferty and Jelavic are more than enough for the SPL.

We Welcome The Chase.

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You are the kind of mug whyte preys on son. no matter how you wrap it up, you were lied to. £5mil plus more upfront if needed. £10mil in bids all turned down. if you want to be lied to fine, but true bears and real supporters dont follow follwo blindly. we want to be respected by our chairman. if your lot all go on as if nothing has happened, the same thing will happen every year.

My opinion - Whyte needs to explain to the fans why he is a f*****g liar. Sorry Mr Johnston for doubting you.

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Agreed. Perhaps we didn't spend much money because the management don't think we need to. Celtic are a bad lot, probably no better than last year. We have strengthened in weak positions, and I genuinely believe, once the team gels, that we'll canter the league.

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"Wallace has been immense"

What matches have you been watching??
The only thing Wallacae has done is shown how integral Papac is to the team. Regardless of Celtic Fans coming on here to wind us up, serious questions should be asked about the £5m a year promised.

Its not that we haven't added numbers, but will these new players stop McCoist from Playing McCulloch and Edu?,

And don't try and convince me edu is a player, if that is the case then I am rather upset that McCoist or Smith never gave me a call before the Deadline, as I can honestly say at 30 years old, and only playing Sunday League football, I would contribute more in a Game than Edu

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Yes we would be in a mess without Whyte. I think the unrest is due to the fact that he told the press that Ally would have £5m at his disposal and more if he needed it. Don't try and tell me or any other bear that Ally didn't want to strengthen. If the money was spent on some decent players it would have went a long way to winning the title and guaranteeing Champions League football next season and the cash that goes with it.
If the money wasn't there he shouldn't have told the press it was.

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01 Sep 2011 01:49:40
With players bought and players sold/sell on fees we have a net spend of 1.1m after Mr Whyte was promising so much more. I know that some will say that he's put money in by extending contracts, which was good. But lets not forget that we were told there was offers in the millions for Verhoek and Juhasz. If they were genuine offers then why have we ended up only spending 1.1m? I think these 'offers' were merely to keep us fans happy with rumour and speculation and that Whyte had no intention of spending money. Had we brought in some players we might have beaten Malmo, and lets be honest, we know we are not world beaters but Malmo and Maribor? No disrespect but we should be beating those teams. As it stands best of luck to Maribor they deserve to be in the Europa league and we don't. But 15m down the tube? Whyte should hang his head in shame. Lots of big promises and bluffs and at the end of the day we are still in about 30m of debt, just that that debt has been transferred and underwritten by Whyte...so after this life saving takeover we still don't have two pennies to rub together. Poor Coisty, total legend but now finds himself in a worse situation than Walter was. I'll always get behind the team but dark days ahead i fear.

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Ok Yoda!

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01 Sep 2011 01:49:12
i dont get why people are all up in arms about Rangers not signing anybody on deadline day, we have signed 7 people already this season, we have strengthened the defence with some solid signings (Goian, Bocanegres and Wallace), brought in 2 good centre mids (Bedoya and McKay), our target for today was holding on to Jelavic and we did. If Jela and Lafferty stay fit then we dont really need a new striker yet!

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Your easily pleased mate that's all i can say. Goian & Wallace look decent enough but we don't know enough about the two midfielders and Bocanegras more of a full back than a centre half. We chased Goodwillie for long enough and when he chose to go elsewhere we didn't have a back up plan. We went for £3.5-4m Juhasz and ended up with Bocanegra for buttons. We went for £3m Verhoek and ended up with Bedoya for buttons! I hope the players mentioned turn out to be good ones but usually you get what you pay for. Whyte HAS NOT gave McCoist anywhere near his full backing. Even the most experienced of managers would struggle to deliver trophies with the squad we have never mind a rookie. Good luck Ally, you'll need it!

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Bollox! You have swallowed the company line... So, last night whyte and Ally decided non in and 4 out was the way forward to help Allys "depleted and tired squad", his words, compete for the league? Oh, but we kept Jelly... well that's just fu*ckin' dandy, eh?

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I agree with most of what you say but we should have spent money on a striker

JG

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01 Sep 2011 01:42:05
George the Bear here as predicted shyster whyte and ellis conmen the pair of them ! Only bonus all the season ticket returns Im going do same as Shyte to get my son a season ticket , I am formally offering 6 pounds for a main stand season with a pound every fortnight PLUS I nwill throw in my Esso 1970 world cup coin set , a bag of marbles and a no bad condition Broons Xmas Annual from 1973 , oh an if the a joke offer in your opinion mr s**te ahm prepared to throw in a SIGNED Billy Urquart Tennents Caledonian Cup top from 1981 ! Deal ? I will only make 9 more offers take it or leave it !

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Made me giggle m8. Nice one. Billyboy

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01 Sep 2011 01:34:32
Well gents, the transfer window is shut.
I was keeping my mouth shut, hoping beyond hope that we'd bring in more players.
We brought in 6 - Bartley, Ortiz, Bedoya, Bocanegra, Wallace and Goian, and we are rid of 5 - Bougherra, Little, Beattie, Fleck and Hutton.
I thought we were going to bring in more players, not just one more.
I see a squad of 22. Injuries are already costing us dearly, as are suspensions.
There's no doubt in my mind that as the season wears on, the injuries to key players will frustrate others and there will be even more suspensions.

I've changed my mind regarding Mr Whyte. I was really trying to keep an open mind and give him a chance, but not now. Add to this my bemusement at Ally's coaching decisions, and I fear the title won't come to Ibrox this season.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, and we sign some free agents to boost the squad ...

Colin in Canada.

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If we're struggling with injuries come january, then we've got the second window to bolster the squad. A successful transfer window in my eyes (thought obvoisuly a little disappointed we never signed anyone on deadlineday) Muzz

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We brought in 7 you forgot about makay

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At last! A guy seeing sense... k'mon bears this guy is giving it to us up the a*s! And Ally is sat there saying NOWT!

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And McKay who looks decent

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01 Sep 2011 01:21:42
Delighted to have beattie off the wage bill give it to Diouf good squad player, And a really good move sending fleck and hutton out on loan they are not good enough especially fleck so much expectation but has made no impression IMO hopefully they get a bag full of games at sheff utd and come back sharper and can make a stamp on the team, should of sent Kerkar out on loan too he's mince.. *ksd*

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I agree with your post, but nobody knows if kerkar is any good he never gets a chance

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01 Sep 2011 01:18:14
Hi all my fellow bear buddies, no rumour just a question?
me personally am dissapointed with this transfer window seems like a lot of promises with little or nothing coming in.
like the majority of gers fans i will give the new boys time to settle but its hard to see them doing anything this year.
so my question is are you dissapointed and why? thx in advance for replying.

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More than disappointed my friend. What we have here is a clusterf*ck! Said it a dozen times on this site and can't be assed saying it all in detail again but it wont take you long to work it out... by not spending the £6mill Ally asked for we are £18mill down already with a further £15mill down if we don't win the title this season... oh yea, the mans a business genius rite enuff!!

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01 Sep 2011 01:17:24
2 players rangers should go for who are on frees is McFadden and diouf as that is all i can think of who mite come now then wee wait till januray and then demand whyte gets his money out when the tax issue is over then he cant make any excuses i will still give him until januray to see what he does am propabley being to nice am not gonna lie a thought he was gonna be the man for rangers am not so sure now but am gonna give him till januray i cant blame fans for being pissed of because if sombodys says 18 million to spend then that how much you expect but at the end of the day am still gonna go to every home game and support the team i love and i hope evreybody else does to but its evreybody elses choice but a think give him untill januray there is nothing else wee can do this transfer now so lets get behind mr whyte for now and the team and most importantley the one and only super ally becuse like a say ones the tax issue is sorted no more xscuses for mr whyte

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01 Sep 2011 01:05:02
Does any1 no wot andrew ellis has 2 do with our club, i no he owns a stake that was given 2 him by mr tight bt havnt seen or heard anything since th takeover was completed. This man has a reputation 4 ruining football clubs down south and now after wot i feel has been the most embarassing transfer window in our great clubs history i think questions hav 2 b asked, at least wit the bank we new wher we stood bt rite now i dont, apparently we had 5 mil 2 spend bt hav spent 1.5 aftr money recieved frm bougy nd adam. I hav renewed my 600 quid season ticket and bought al 3 shirts as i hav dun 4 th past 8 years, hav gone to 2 european games already ths season and th only entertainment i hav had is listening to th blue order. I wil continue 2 go nd suport ally bt wud jst like sum answers tht arent lies!!

Bit ov a rantn bear!

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Whyte = Dick Turpin

Ellis = The Horse

George the Bear

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01 Sep 2011 00:59:37
Thank god we didn't spend any money we didn't have, that's why we are in this mess in the 1st place. Wait till this tax issue is resolved then Mr whyte we will find out what your all about. Will you want the debt paid back to you or will you back the manager.

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Back the manager...? are you insane man, did you write this BEFORE the season began??

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01 Sep 2011 00:53:58
league is over we have no chance

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Dam, and here I was thinking we were sitting on top ....

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01 Sep 2011 00:27:11
We have signed a few players let wait and see how the settle before we slag them off , they may not have cost much money but look over a septic they got larsson for 600k and look how he turned out.

we have picked up International players 2 from the U.S.A and they have shot up in the world rankings for the past 3 years so they cant be too bad some goes for mckay from australia .

Give the guys time you never know.

But what i'm not happy about is the Jelavic transfer silence . i for 1 dont beleive anyone offered 9 million for him , an unnamed team yeah right, the club was happy to say they rejected a 6.5 million bid off Leicester and they could not hold there water about anything else in the transfer window but just as they come out and say we will not be doing any more buisness in the transfer window , knowing we as season book holders would not be happy about the strengh of our squad ( as in numbers ) he come's out with oh but wait a club that we will not name came in with a 9 mil bid for jelavic and we said no ( so we should be happy with that ) then we loan out hutton and fleck to sheff utd which weakens us in possitions our squad is small enough . but a penny saved is a penny earned with whyte.

if a club bid for him then name the club as we knew Leicester was in for him . (name the second club ) let them say yes we did bid or say we did not bid.

YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME BUT NOT EVERYONE ALL OF THE TIME.

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You mean four internationalist goian Romanian McKay Australian Wallace Scotland bedoya bocanegra 2 Americans in fact five

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Romania have stayed on an even peg for the past 5 years . i was talking about the U.S Guys and the Australian boy as both nations have jumped up FIFA rankins .

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If the bank still owned us we would have accepted the £6.5 million. He is still here so what does it matter who bid and how much. Also we re-signed our best players on long-term contracts, if the bank were in charge we would not as we would have offered lesser terms, which would have been refused; then teams would have been interested as the prices would be lower in last year of deals. Not perfect that we have not signed anyone but we have signed 5 international class players and lost 1, got rid of dead wood (Beattie) and sent promising young players out on loan, giving them match experience in a resonable league rather than sitting on the bench. They would only get match time if we suffered lots of injuries and then would they perform in that atmosphere or be booed every time they made a mistake (think Edu, Charlie Adam). We still have Ness, Perry etc to come in and get games if we need. Won league last 3 years with a smaller squad and we have at least added some quality at reasonable prices.

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01 Sep 2011 00:24:55
Well I'll start by stating the obvious. Today was a disappointing end to a disappointing summer transfer window. Not only did we not sign anyone, 4 players have left - 3 on loan, 1 released. Our squad is thin enough without depleting it like that. No matter what you may think of the guys who have went elsewhere, a few injuries in the squad and things will look even worse than they do now.
All I can hope for now is that we have some out of contract players in mind that we will bring in. My personal opinion is that I'm not a huge fan of either Diouf or McFadden but, realistically, who else is there out there?
Frustrated and p....d off? That would be an understatement.

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01 Sep 2011 00:23:52
Wonder how much it cost to get rid of Beattie?,he is not daft he wont walk away with nothing. Really surprised with the Hutton and Fleck deals. Dont really have a big squad. No point moaning now, we have kept our main men who won us the title last year. Lets get behind the team, can anyone imagine the situation without Whyte?. Its would be a fire sale. He is our best option and we are in a good position. 4 in a row

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He never took anything, free agent to sign for Blackpool or Coventry

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MR Whyte Paid LLoyds the money owed to them, thus making RFC debt free, if there is a Bill to be paid to HMRC then he will have to use the club as collateral, to borrow money to pay it, here is an example " If you had a £300 coat in the pawn and owed them £100 quid, but said to me, you can have that coat if you give me a pound and pay the pawn £100 quid, I would have a coat and be £101 pounds lighter (but potentialy have something worth £300), now how could i then move that 101 pounds offshore, I don't have it the Pawn does, Now let say the coat owes the taxman £100 I would then have pawn the coat again and pay the taxman and I would be £200 quid down, but the coat is worth £300, - It's an investment, just like RFC, Whyte is taking a gamble that the HMRC will lose, or come to an agreement than won't cost to much, then he will need to come clean on his plans for Ibrox, Murray park etc.

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Why would a prawn need a coat?

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01 Sep 2011 00:22:03
people want to know why craig whyte bought rangers, the reason is simple.

- he bought the club for £1 off a man who revolutionised Scottish football and Rangers FC, a man who truly loved the club.
- Whyte has not cleared our debt, he has transfered it to one of his holding companies. this can be transfered back should we lose the hmrc case.
- By buying the club for £1 he stand to make a massive profit, well into the millions of pounds.
- He doesnt need to invest all that much because with no debt Rangers FC is a money making machine, it generates its own transfer kitty ect.

Whyte is the smartest owner in the footballing world - he bought a club for a quid and will make millions in the process of owning it and will eventually sell up for a big payday.

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Thank god that somebody other than me knows the situation. People still saying he cleared the debt, why don't they read what is printed.

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He's moved the debt to a holding company yes - but he can't just move it back to rangers and F off if we lose the HMRC case. He's accepted our debt and in doing so can not simply reject it back to rangers. He is liable to pay it not rangers therefore we have no debt. Our owner does however. Muzz

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He still has the debt in a holding company so will either have to write it off (or pay it off from profits). However if we lose the HMRC case than this debt makes him the number 1 creditor (ahaed of HMRC which is why they are currently trying to close the loophole). He could then put RFC into administration and buy the club and all its assets back for a price, with nothing left for HMRC. This may put us in a position of strength in this issue. We would however face a points deduction similar to Dundee (first time around) but it would mean we don't win league for 1 season and then not have HMRC case hanging over us.

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A man who truely loved the club and revolutionised scottish football.....he`s the reason we had lloyds on our backs,he lost intrest he left us high and dry- for the few good seasons he gave us the last lot of years were piss poor-murray is the reason whytes here

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He will have to clear the debt then-who buys a club with debt??.....wolves were sold for a pound but they had thier debt payed off with the money the club would of been sold for-murray jumped ship before the tax case and handed over the club to a guy with no real cash money he has assets worths millions i doubt he has alot of cash millions-theres a very big difference-murray is as guilty as whyte in my eyes our beloved rangers is just a throne 4 whyte to sit on-i still think theres money there but he hasnt got his man in the club i think ally has to prove himself to whyte,whyte wont admit it as it undermines ally
steve the ger

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01 Sep 2011 00:21:17
i really want diouf dont care what other people say he plays for the gersy and loves the club! with the added bonus of winding up neill lennon!

i have mixed emotions on tonight... feel s**te cause soo many promises that never happend he should have kep his mouth shut but we would not have had....
JELAVIC
DAVIS
MCGREGOR
BEDOYA
GIOAN
WALLACE....will i go on! lets get behind the team and get 4 in a row!!! we would defo not have half the players we have now plus no debt! who did c*eltic sign 2 player wanyama... who and a morrocon nobodys heard of we have strengthend! lets start looking at the bright side and win the league!!! even if we were relagated i would still love the FAMOUSE GLASGOW RANGERS!! am buzzing for this year! its all gonna change i think!

and thanks to the eds for a great transfer window!

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It's a bad day when we want to sign a player because he winds up neil lennon.
In my opinion Diouf didn't do enough in his time at us to win a transfer .
We should be looking to sign players to make our team better not just looking for squad players.

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01 Sep 2011 00:18:37
Not impressed at all, but would like to wish the young guy out on loan best of luck and hopefully get loads of games under their belt.
I honestly believe Ibrox will not be the place for the youths to play this season as i sense a long one ahead and if results go against us we will implode and i'm not exagerating, hope i'm wrong but rarely am.
Goodnight Whyte,hope you pesh the bed.
BR

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01 Sep 2011 00:17:56
well kept quiet till the window shut like whyte said now is the time to judge his transfer buisness...LLYODS spent more in the last transfer window ....bet the last board have got the told u so speach all ready to be read out

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01 Sep 2011 00:15:44
Im fed up hearing all this nonsense about rangers never signed enough players, Whyte done us we're out of europe boo hoo these things happen.

We have dropped 2 points this season to the 3rd best team in the league the manks dropped all 3 to a relegation fighting team.

Granted i would have loved to have seen more players coming in but for god sake we are not in advocaats era we are in the tight constraints of an owner who values what he has and if you so called fans are all honest you wouldn't P*ss your money away would you???

football in this country is terrible i think alot of ppl think we are better than we are scotland as a whole are no better than the teams that we all lost to the sooner we all realise this the better.

As for players we have signed:

Bartley proven to be a great signing last season

Goian Looks the part cant complain

Wallace tremendous signing will come on as season progresses

Bedoya can't comment

McKay Cant comment

Bocanegra i think will do a great job

and Ortiz admitted maybe not the best but he wears the blue and white so lets get behind them all

7 players in wht more do we expect

Mr Whyte although i would make a few changes you got my vote

4IAR

Jamie

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01 Sep 2011 00:40:24
I think we're being a wee bit hard on James Beattie, give the guy a bit of credit, many would have sat tight and taken the dosh, at the end of the day, he had to agree to rip up his contract, so...fair play to him......i thought he might have done us a turn, but he was bothered with injuries and just couldn't get going, i think it's just one of those ones that never worked out, and no one is to blame.

I think Beatts is a decent guy, so let's show a bit of class and wish the guy all the best.....w a t p

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01 Sep 2011 00:31:42
Really hope Diouf doesn't come back, he did absolutely nothing last season but "do a Balotelli". He's made a career from one World Cup!

Jelavic £9million bid sounds iffy to me, if it was rejected from the unnamed club what was the point in telling the press in the first place? Smokescreen? Or strategy for the January window? "Yeah we refused a £9million bid back in august so he's worth more than that now!" Probably big Eck will do us a favour in January and give us £10million.

Good to see Arteta getting his big move, didn't hang around long but was quality when he was here

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01 Sep 2011 00:30:19
One thing I'm looking forward to this season is the possability of seeing mrs bocanegra in the lift when going up to my seat

how hot is she?

Club deck loyal

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01 Sep 2011 00:29:44
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT'S TRUE DAVID WEIR WAS RELEASED

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01 Sep 2011 00:05:13
MIDNIGHT and the window passes without any signings - whyte must go.

How can such a massive club rebuild with so little investment - we will have a squad equal to hibs and aberdeens as soon as shagger and davis are sold.

even the manager is second rate.

Mr whyte has made fraudulent promises to millions of Rangers fans worldwide - surely something can be done??

When the tic were in trouble even they managed to oust their owner

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01 Sep 2011 00:02:52
Even up until ten to eleven I never gave up hope of a couple signings, gonna be a tough journey to January!

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01 Sep 2011 00:02:19
lol, check out the Rangers Website......we cant even afford someone that can spell to update our site!

Late Deals at Gers

FLECK and Hutton "joim" Sheffield "UItd" on loan and Beattie leaves

Sad days. WHYTE YOU LIAR!!!!!!!!!

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01 Sep 2011 00:00:20
We have signed wallace, goian, bocanegra (whole new defence) ortiz, bedoya and mckay (whole new midfield) So have faith. its impossible to bring in so many players and expect them to gel. expect more in january and in the summer. this is an ongoing process

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31 Aug 2011 23:56:41
id rather have neil lennon as rangers captain than diouf back. what did diouf do for us? barely played, picked up a massive pay packet and caused a massive amount of trouble for the club everytime he did play.

a**ehole of a player and a person

also murphy has stated tonight that hes not coming to us on twitter

ryanrfc

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31 Aug 2011 23:54:15
Gers cut Beattie. Bout f'n time. Still 3 loans out and who came in? Anyone?

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31 Aug 2011 23:53:42
Beattie...contract ripped up...like the guys on Sky Sports, I'm confused why he didn't do better for us.

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31 Aug 2011 23:53:39
Rangers cancel the contract of James Beattie, confirmed on ssn

well at least that is one good thing to happen today..

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31 Aug 2011 23:52:53
Beattie released what a waste of 1.5 million that was.

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31 Aug 2011 23:51:58
south african winger- bid rejected
dutch winger verhock - bid rejected
striker goodwillie-bid rejected
two young strikers on trial-no signings

3 questions
1- y were all the bids rejected-not enough money?bad negotiating or stubborness, ok could live with that
2-if theses bids were made then there was obviously money there to spend, so where has it suddenly vanished to?
3- what i cant live with is we clearly feel theses two positions need strengthinging by bidding for such players,y then have we not filled them with someone of a good quality with money like i said above must have been there?

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31 Aug 2011 23:50:48
how can u let 4 players go and not bring any 1 in and we have have not got that much players say good by to 4 in a row

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31 Aug 2011 23:50:15
Does that burd next to Jim white speak or is just there to smile and look pretty?
I've not heard her say anything yet and i've been watching for ages.
BR

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31 Aug 2011 23:49:41
What a pile of sh*te!

Why tell us there may be a couple of loan signings coming in, or "we will be busy in the last 72hrs of the transfer window" if nothing is gonna happen.

If we have no intention of doing anything on the last day then be honest and let us all know, as now everyone feels that they have been lied too and led up the garden path(plus i could have been in bed at 9.30

I'm disappointed that we did not get anyone in but I will forever support the club and the players who wear the jersey.

We all need to get behind Ally and the players.

4-in-a-row.

The Pilot!

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Simple, whyte won't give him any more dosh. Maybe Ally was hoping, just maybe, he might get a bit more backing from the chairman. Fat chance.

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We were busy in the last 72 hours. Getting players out, not in.

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31 Aug 2011 23:48:52
You honestly couldn't make it up, just checked the rangers website for any last min signings and there latest news is, bocanegra is looking foreword to the usa friendly games. I understand whyte does not want to spend money because of the tax case but please don't lie to the fans about the money we have to spend. Pennyboy

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31 Aug 2011 23:48:14
not happy rangers didnt sign anyone but happy jelvic stayed

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31 Aug 2011 23:46:24
Even though Rangers kept Jelavic, we didn't bring in anyone (e.g. a striker, a creative midfielder and a left winger) and Whyte has conned us all. His net spend has been £1 million (although he promised £10 million+) and offered £100,000 for Tshabalala and failed. Our "marquee" signing was Lee Wallace for £1.5 million and even then, we already have a LB in Papac. If Martin Bain was still Chief Exec, we would have got all the players that we had been wanting (Goodwillie, Hemed, Verhoek, Danns to name a few). Overall what i'm trying to say is...WHYTE IS A C@NT! Sorry guys, just had to have my wee rant.

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31 Aug 2011 23:46:14
We have been had. Sadly, our saviour is nothing more than a swindler. I am a die-hard fan but this I very hard to take. At least we knew where we stood when we were totally cash strapped.
I would not blame Ally if he walks. In fact, perhaps this is a good time to go and bring in a manager used to working with no budget and weak, poor, second rate players.
Totally gutted.
I will always back my team, but this is going to be a testing and turbulent season at rangers and sadly our owner is the catalyst for failure.

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31 Aug 2011 23:40:18
All you morons moaning about us not signing enough players need to get a grip. We got pumped out the Champions League and the Europa League in the Qualifiers so have no European income this season. Whyte has signed the USA captain, and winger (a team that has got further or equal in the last 4 world cups), signed a very promising players in Wallace and a romanian international (not to mention the stalwarts and promising youth players of our side that have been given improved and greatly extended contracts)!! He has also turned down big bids for Jelavic. Do remember whats happened before when we got bids for players. they all got accepted. 8 million for Hutton, 7 million for Cuellar, 3.5 for Boyd, 1 million mendes, bloody 400k for the leagues top scorer last season. GET A GRIP AND GET BEHIND OUR TEAM

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Well said m8..only decent post on the whole page

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