Rangers Banter Archive January 22 2012

 

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22 Jan 2012 23:53:48
It's amazing the amount of tax case know it all's, fair weather supporters, i know someone who works are Rangers, i know the agent that follow Rangers. Really people wake up and take a few seconds, Half the people want Craig Whyte out, I'll admit, not a big Craig Whyte fan. Fact he was the only person willing to step forward knowing about the tax case, what would have happened if he did'nt buy into Rangers God only knows, but i think we would have been in a bigger mess than we're in the now. So far we've spent £3,25 million on transfer's (not including wages) and have brought in £1.7 million with the sell of Bougherra, meaning our outcomes for this season so far is £1.55 million.
Sacked McCoist, okay he's made some bad signings, could it not be that was the only players available to him at the time, lets be honest the days of big named players coming to Ibrox are gone, due to the fact we wont pay the big wages any more. McCoist been forced to shop in the bargin basement bins. Sack him, who do we get to replace him? What manager would what to come to Rangers the now with the tax case result depending and a unclear future, would you leave your place of employment to leave to a company with mounting debts, tax case depending and a unclear future, don't think you would. so that leaves someones who's not working, the only one that i could think that would maybe take the job would be Billy Davies.
People we've got a tough 2 or 3 years ahead of us and its only just starting. We support our team through thick and thin, and right now its lean times.
Starting on Saturday lets get behind our beloved Rangers and show everyone WE ARE THE PEOPLE.

Club deck season ticket holder.

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This saying that whyte at least took us on with the tax case hanging over our head. Let's look seriously at the situation. Whyte paid £1, if we lose the tax case, we go into admin, he is secured for first £18m. Therefore worst case scenario is that he loses £1. If we win the tax case he has still spent £1. Suddenly he has an attractive business that is worth good money.
Whyte is not the knight in shining armour. He is in a no lose situation, so him standing up to buy does not make him a hero. Had the bank been in charge and we lost the case we would be in admin. no difference.
For those that will spout that the bank would sell our best players, so will whyte. No difference. You are right that whyte spent £1.7m in transfers, I would remind you that the previous summer they allowed us to sign jelavic. Whyte will not spend £4m on a player, no way

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Agree with most of the above but you seem to be missing a bit of a white elephant, if mr whyte loses the tax case potentially he could owe as much as 49million so it seems he could be spending a little more than a £1

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If it is £49m we will go into administration. Whyte has secured the first £18 m which he has borrowed, so his net spend is £1

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We're going to have to wait until the tax case is settled, IF we win the case lets see if Craig Whyte keeps his promise and wipe out the debt, time will time. Don't get my wrong, the jury is still out for me about Whyte. In my view he's only a front man for Dave King.

Club deck season ticket holder

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Would it be correct to assume ,if the club loses the tax case and go into administration,the tax man would still want payment

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Great! so one dodgy chancer is a front man for an even bigger dodgy chancer? well the only way is up now!!

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Have you forgot that we also got £800 grand from the sale of charlie adam.plus any money he has spent was rangers assets,not his money because he has none.

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Forgot about charlie Adams money, so really takes his spending down to £900,000

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What about the 1 million he had to give Beattie to get rid of him? All in al INCLUDING agent fee's and signing on fee's Rangers spent 5.9 million in the summer and didn't get Boughera's and Adam's fee's till after the window shut! And as for only spending Rangers money? About fecking time! People seem to forget were in this mess cos SDM was very good at spending other peoples money and not living within our budget
Dmrangers

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22 Jan 2012 22:00:51
all i can say really is - dear oh dear oh dear what penny pinching nonsense let Kenny Miller go to Cardiff ??

How we could do with him now.

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Totally agree, said it at the time that was the signing we should have made. But also the writing was on the wall throughout that transfer window and it's the same this one as well. Lies after lies. Blue4ever

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Its money guys , to be fair if these players really like the clubthe would come back unless they got an offer that was less when they were 1st there . but u have to ask how much money does 1 man need ? if your sorted for life you shouldnt need 30 grand a week?

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Miller only wanted 20k we should have sold Whittker gave miller his wage problem solved

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22 Jan 2012 21:07:47
I am a Celtic fan and not on here to gloat. Why all the support for ally? Yes he was a good player and rangers to the core, did a decent job as assistant to Walter, but his record as manager is really poor- out of Europe, cups, losing huge lead in league etc. lose the setimental crap and show him the door. Mangers can make a huge difference look at mon at Sunderland, he has turned an under achieving them around.

Jd

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Pretty sure Lennon got kncked out of europe twice as well and failed to win the league agaisnt a poor Rangers team. Did you stop backing him?

Raab

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PAUL LA G got sacked for less no matter what happens ally will get till end of season and it will be thanks but no thanks, gazza

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Losing a lead is irrelevant, a league is 38 games at the end of the season you cant look back and say count the first 9 games ignore the rest. Under Walter we went out of Europe in qualifying and did a league and cup double, which is still possible this season.

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When Walter got knocked out of Europe did they We not go on a spending spree ? That did not happen this year, Give Ally the season, he deserves at least that.

Pete

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It's paul le guen NOT LA, la is spanish honestly some people!

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What if we fail to beat Hibs, or worse lose ? and then go out of the cup to D. Utd, or get taken to Tannadice for another replay ? Will all of Ally's backers still be backing him ? If the worst is to happen in our next two games, effectively Bears, the season is over as a contest and we wil tread water 'til the end of the season !!!!! Next two games are a MUST WIN

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Yes Rangers got knocked out of two European competitions and the league cup but that isn't just down to McCoist. You are forgetting Stevie Whittaker more or less sold the jersey for Rangers in Europe against the two clubs we played.

Neil Lennon had the same start to his managerial career last season remember and Celtic stood by him. If McCoist doesn't win the league then fare play, he has no given right to win the league in his first full season considering the resources he has. On the other hand, Neil Lennon SHOULD have won the league last season considering the amount of players he signed, and he has only added another 3 players to his massive squad.

The pressure is more on Lennon's shoulders than McCoist's........

TTG

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22 Jan 2012 20:42:43
No expert but tax year apr to apr in the uk. Relax any bad news will arrive soon if any?! Do not submit

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Er is that not what Whyte did? He never submitted his tax on time ha ha Timalloy

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Tax year April to April is for individuals. Rangers tax year ends 30 June.

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Timmy, why do you keep saying Whyte did not pay his taxes, this tax mess we are in, it has absolutely nothing to do with him - he is disputing the 4.2 Million pound tax bill (wee tax) and he has every right to do so, he would not be doing his job if he didn't try to dispute it, the figures don't add up. Really mate, with comments like those, its small wonder you are losing credibility on here,

Pete

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Does he/she have any credability?

wullie

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Timalloy,

The tax issue isn't Craig Whyte's doings. Do you even have a clue LMAO? You seem to enjoy gloating about any little sing regarding Rangers' tax case, even when you don't really have a clue what you glaoting about!

TTG

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22 Jan 2012 20:20:33
i really wish walter smith stayed i think if he stayed this would happen cl group stages better use of transfer budget make rangers play better
AndyBear

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Walter smith would never have put up way mr tight

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Yea im happy he left on a high, legends should not be treated the way ally has been

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22 Jan 2012 20:06:29
A lot of fans going on about how poor Davis has been. Let's be honest though. We have been poor in central midfield for years.

Edu- Not good enough
McCulloch- Not good enough
K Thomson- Clumsy, no creativity, no pace.
Mendes- Too defensive.
B Ferguson- Was never as good during his second spell.
Hemdani- Good but slow and defensive.

Anyone else any one can think of.

You need to go back to Mikel Arteta when we last had a quality central midfielder.

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Mendes- too defensive. Did you ever watch him? He couldn't take similarly to Hemdani.

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Arteta was young, inexpierenced n inconsistant. in all his time at rangers i can only remember 1 moment of brilliance n that was a goal away to dunfermline. he kinda done the splits to control the ball, found his balance n pinged the ball in the top right from 25 yards. the other memories i have of him are average, his delivery from corners were particuarly poor. as for fergie.....pure class. dragged us through games, lead single handed sometimes n was a true leader. would you rather have a 19 year old mikel arteta or a 28 year old barry ferguson in our midfield right now?
as for a player who could give our midfield a bit of creativity. i still maintain jamie ness is a real player. just hope he sorts his injuries out n im sure he'd do a turn for us. surely if he doesnt feature this season he's finished at rangers. hope not though.
j1985

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Arteta would obviously walk right into our first team the now though and make a huge impact j1985, what i would give for that to happen ! ness is a terrific prospect but this imbalance he has is a major concern, but he would make a difference also at the minute

james rfc 1980

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I was saying that i would take fergie in his prime over an inexperienced 19 year old arteta. its obvious arteta now would stroll.the spl, that wasn't my point. the original poster claimed arteta was more effective than fergie was in his 2nd spell with us. i disagree.
j1985

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Fergie at 21 was the ulimate player, chasing into the corners, winning balls and turning defence into attack but after the captaincy season he got mad and took all the free kicks even though he was gash at set piece, lets let the past go and stop grumbling, we have what we have and thats it, no amount of "Blackburn " mentality will change the current financial climate so support your team wholeheartedly or just go and be a glory hunting Man Utd supporter!

Rangers till they smoke me...

Charli3.

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Charli pal calm down. me n the other boy were having a wee debate until you charged in.wae your random "support the team" s**te. of course we support our team we're discussing issues with the team.
j1985

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Davis is the only player we have in midfield who can create anything, a lot of people fail to realise that so far this season Davis has created most goals. The burden is purely on Davis' shoulders, that is the problem. Maurice Edu must be murder to play with in midfield. He never, ever creates space for himself to receive a pass. Davis needs a partner who will take some of the responsibility. Edu was dire at the weekend, even though he did score, he was terrible!

TTG

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22 Jan 2012 20:05:16
At the tome I thought it was a mistake now I definitely think it was now, we should have conway and miller for buttons.

Mcshagger
Whittker, goian, Boca, Wallace
Aluko, naismith, Davis, conway
Miller, jelavic.

That team would have ran away with the league.

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Cant disagree, though i still reckon we would be sitting top the now if it wasnt for naismiths injury

james rfc 1980

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Any team that has to rely on one player is in desperate need of reinforcement, it's managers job to make sure that we have cover; and we do in Mackay, Ness and Hutton but for SOME reson these guys ain't gettin a game when we need them most.

ANSWERS ON A POSTCARD....

Charli3.

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22 Jan 2012 19:16:22
gotta say as a celtic fan i dont know why edu gets so much stick from you guys.big,strong,athletic n knows how to get about the pitch.any time iv seen him against us or on telly he never looks the worst on the park.i think you give davis so much slack that he's the whipping boy/yea he's got flaws but i dont think mccoist is using him properly and his effort is 5 x what davis puts in.no bids for davis i see.............wonder why? green jhedi

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You wouldn't be saying that if he played for u lot, he's gash

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I agree i would pick edu before davis lately./biggles

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I agree Biggles, does it annoy anyone else that our club captain pulls out of every fifty/fifty challenge?

GovanFR

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It cost us the opener yesterday govan fr. pulled out and the boy arnason ran forward and scored

james rfc 1980

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YES!

Raab

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Sell davis now....

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Wee Flecky shouldn't of went out on loan to Blackpool because I would of played him before Davis at the moment

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Sell Edu NOW!

You lot don't have a scooby man. The problem with you lot is you expect EVERYTHING to come through Davis, There is only so much he can do, he needs someone other than Edu to play alongside him in midfield. I'd drop Edu and give Bedoya a shot in centre mid.

TTG

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22 Jan 2012 19:10:01
Selling Jelavic now would be mental! 1. We need him to have any hope of winning the league 2. His value will skyrocket if he does well for croatia at the euros!

Loan or sell some of the dead wood we have to free up money and bring in a few quality replacements. I'd happily loan or sell Ortiz, Broadfoot, Bedoya, Mckay and Edu. There are players out there we could get within our budget. Cuellar would go for cheap with 6 months left on his contract and Boyd is on a free! Also ALly should use some of his contacts and at least bring in a couple of short term loans from the english big guns! Better than what we've got now and we can plan for the future once we know the deal with the tax case.

Rossco Cyprus Bear

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Aye id sell jelavic he aint trying a leg he wants away and i think craig wyhte should take 6 million plus for jelavic and i think he should try and get sandaza scored again boyd already proven he can score goals in the spl and try and get templeton aswell and tben we have a decent team for the summer
mcgregor
whittaker goian boccanegra wallace
aluko davis naismith templeton
celik lafferty
subs sandaza boyd wylde edu jaager broadfoot alexander

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Aye give boyd 20k a week to sit on the bench, are u sir David by any chance?

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Are u ally mccoist by any chance if boyd comes back he wont be on 20k yah fan*y and would u rather play edu and jealvic that aint trying i bet if i said play boyd u would say wheres celik or lafferty so shut up yah di*k u cant play them all

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Hes 4th choice striker for croatia and has only scored 2 goals in friendlys, wouldnt bank on him having a big euros unless there is major injuries from now till then!!

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How can you say Edu aint trying? you are deluded he was man of the match in my opinion on Saturday and anyone who says if we sell Jelavic we wont win the league are stupid, we have won games without him scoring this season so tell me 2 good reasons why he is so important to winning the league?

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22 Jan 2012 18:21:52
Evening ostriches, where are all your "loyal" regulars? FF81, Gerry the Ger, Germinator, German, NYTABOW a couple of poor results and you all disappear like snow off a dyke!
Cheer up as you all keep telling us Whyte has a Plan!
Here is what it is, the demolition company currently knocking down the multis next to Ibrokes have won contract to move in next month, A "change of use" planning application has gone in to make it a place of entertainment unlike now! LOL Timalloy

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People actually have lives timmy my friend ! they dont sit in constantly and trawl this site, anyhow the last time i checked this was a RANGERS site.

james rfc 1980

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As usual a thicko from the east end trying to put his tuppence in ever think they could be working or on holiday?

ostsiches? f**kin grow up timalloy to me you come across as sh*t stirrer and crave attention

wullie

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22 Jan 2012 17:57:15
As far as I'm concerned, drawing against Aberdeen has put the final nail in the coffin, how can a team lose a 15 point lead, absolutely disgraceful & why does McCoist not use his whole squad of players instead of burning out the ones just now.

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We should never have been 15 points clear we were lucky.

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Indeed, we have been far from convincing all season. lucky if we have played 5 games this season where we could geniunely come away thinking "the rangers were excellent the day"

james rfc 1980

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22 Jan 2012 17:33:45
£25 000 a week for Whittaker has been Ally's biggest mistake

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Signing ortiz and mckay instead of conway and miller ain't far behind, plus playing mo edu every week comes close.

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It wasn't coisty that gave Whittaker 23grand a week - is that the stage we are at ? Blaming our manager for how much a player gets , its p!ss all to do wi him how much Whittaker gets! Wisen up m8

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With this kind of p!sh being spewed you wonder why players, legends such as McCoist can be bothered. You are toxic and a miserable bunch of b@stards, who also have no clue about football.

GDog
WATP

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Managerial experience is paramount look at John Greig he was also a legend and we were playing to 5000 at Ibrox and yes we also had diehards then Souness opened up another era but he led from the front and there was a bob or two available

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22 Jan 2012 16:25:21
It's time we got some truthful answers, at a time we desperately need that little bit of difference and imagination Ally doesn't want to change things around. Matt McKay is what we are needing in the midfield to give that bit of creativity but he never gets a lookin, not even on the bench. Something isn't right inside Ibrox at the moment and we deserve to know what it is. Somehow i think Craig Whyte is behind a lot of it and he is happy for Ally to look the bad guy.

Wullie

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Why is matt mckay is the new saviour? as was fleck till he was punted on loan? if these guys were any better do you think ally would keep them out the team?

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Fleck is utter dross

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22 Jan 2012 16:07:54
"In Ally we Trust"...........what happened? lol

Miko x

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Ally must go, he has no plan B, his signings are gash, he's not up to it, the job's too big.......I did try to tell you all! lol

Miko x

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Remember Miko you lot haven managed it over the season for 3 years. Blue4ever

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Neil lennon is more of a joke than ally, use have won nothing in 3 years so whats your point you fool ? In lennon we trust haha dont know how many times thats been on and off since hes been in charge

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Lennon more of a joke ... he was under more pressure last season than ANY gers manager! Remember!! 1st full season as a manager trying to win the league buying a new team from scratch ...Oh and i forgot some so called fans put him and his family through hell!!!end of discussion!

Chalky Bhoy!

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Excuse me? Your blaming us for what Lennon went through?

Raab

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We are all Neil Lennon, Lennon must go! No wait we are all Neil Lennon, pot calling kettle Miko.

GovanFR

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22 Jan 2012 16:06:30
Afternoon Percy's, had to laugh at the knuckledraggers insisting Celik's shirt name be Marven.....pathetic! lol

Still, didn't expect Rankers to sign anyone that required a transfer fee, so well done CW, digging deep to provide the fans with a new signing, a player with real potential, exciting times!

Craig Whyte starting to deliver, perhaps? You'll be back playing CL football before you know it!

Miko x

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Have to say the shirt thing is off, didn't approve of that. Funny seeing you on here because see when your team was playing at there usual level and fans were calling for Lennons head you were never on here. Blue4ever

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Miko celtic did the same when yous signed rafael sheidt .you had rafael on the back so you didnt have sheidt

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Blueforever they all do that.with exception to dimahoy who bombards us with pathetic jokes.constantly.
drumlad

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Miko - Whyte did not pay a transfer fee for Celik. Rangers will be due to pay compensation because of his age. However, this does not get paid now, so expect Whyte not to pay it at all, and the dispute to end up in the courts.

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Yeah seen he had his first name on his shirt in the daily record. I really hope he wasn't asked/told he's not getting his surname on the shirt. I am very proud of my family name and would be really offended if I was told I couldn't have it on the shirt, esp if it was for Rangers.

pappy

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22 Jan 2012 15:52:03
I have been a gers fan all my life, and ally mccoist has given me some off my best memories as a bluenose, but he clearly isn't cut out to be the manager off our great club. We need someone who can get the best out off the bargain basement buys that we are going to be subject to. Billy davies, terry butcher or someone who is used to wheeling and dealing in the transfer market. Ally thanks for the memories but your not up to the job.

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22 Jan 2012 14:14:38
I went to the game yesterday thinking we could not get any worse but I was wrong. Although we were never in any real danger as far as the outfield play was concerned we just threw away a STUPID goal. The first half we were so lethargic it was as if we expected Aberdeen to lie back, which they never do. Second half we only bothered them in the last 5 minuets. All the second half Ally didn't seem to have a plan B. Davis was terrible he does not shout at anyone to gee them up, and should not be the captain.
Man of the match Aloko, although I'm not an Edu fan he had a good game and was unlucky not to score a second.

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Why does it always take us to go 1-0 down or running out of time before we up the pace and try to get a goal.

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Because no-one is driving them on m8, we need a player to take the game to the opposition and stop waiting for something to happen....... It's been like this since we lost Naisy to injury, no C@NT wants to take responsibility !! AndyPandy63

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Its only going to get worse, every team except motherwell will be hard games for us in the run, weve dropped points to nearly half the spl and with the squad getting weaker, i fear for ally

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Why will Motherwell not be hard, any team will be difficult, that's a bit of disrespect towards Motherwell. Blue4ever

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Coz mccall lies down to rangers as previous results against his motherwell side have proven!

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22 Jan 2012 11:36:31
You have to say Goian, Ortiz, Wallace and McKay were ludicrious signings.

Bedoya, is young and so can improve and Bocanegra has been excellent.

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Bedoya is the worst player you have just mentioned. get a grip

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If there s##t signings what does that say about allys credentials.

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Goian has been a great signing, his form has dipped a bit the last few weeks but so has the team are they are now defending more than they use to as we do not keep possession well.

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Goiania is having a dip in form it happens, this time last year Weir was the same and got slated, but it picked up again. The others well Ortiz never did look good so far, McKay and Bedoya have not had a chance. Blue4ever

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I dare you to say that to Goians face, i double...no i triple dare you. You would be swept into eternity in a nano second.......................just not worth it mate.

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Is bedoya not 25? He's comin into his best years so he's not gettin any better. Muppet.

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They can all go after saturdays play very very poor dont put all the blame at the players but , i feel ally doesnt know how to make a match changing move and what peeves me off about gers we need to go a goal down before we start attacking teams last 20 mins of game we had more chances than we did the frist 70 mins shocking!!, gazza

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What would be the chances of bumping into him anyway ? It's hardly as if he walks about Glasgow city centre on a Saturday afternoon is it ?

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Keep up the comedy gold lads!rfc fans are needing a reality check asap! some off the LOYAL fans comments,sack the board,sack ally,keep whyte,sack whyte,lmao...rauls coming,boyd,holt,rhodes,owen,cisse,novo,andy johnstone,pmsl,realise u have,& wont have ANY MONEY for the forseeable future,no credit line,finances in the hand off a proven crook,no euro football nxt season,due to his dodgy dealings&more appearances in court ,outwith 2 taxbills...in whyte yous trust..pmsl,keep up the comedy lads!!!!!

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Very true gazza, said the exact same thing to mate at the game

james rfc 1980

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What an idiotic post and got the response it deserved !!

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Goian has been a great signing, as has Boca, only good signings so far.

GovanFR

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22 Jan 2012 11:28:32
Hi its the silly season again"transfer frenzy"
sack ali get rid of whyte do this do that do the next best thing all of your heads are full of mince never mind who else is !What are moaning about
?If there,s a Rangers left next season lets try and win the flag if not then find one to wave
and be glad there still is a Rangers to support.
Septic went through financial turmoil with mcann etc
they survived so why not rangers?They argue that celtic is better ran than rangers b****cks
they nearly went to the wall long before Rangers ever did ...so what??just dont get too cocky septic
it could be you again very quickly!if the sugar daddies bail out you are not at a profit either
you cant be well run in that case either! for me win the title if you can porkheiders but we will be back ..bigger and better and it wont take 4 years! over and out..

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Worry about your own team, owner and manager!- he is clueless when the chips are down, he is trying and failing to be Walter Smith, defensive negative tactics are not the way forward as you bears can see. playing players in wrong positions not dropping out of form players, celtic are in the black one of very few clubs in world football, dont wish Celtic had the same problems as you do, just mind the gap as we welcome the chase
Willybhoy

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What a total person you are! yes we did go thru financial trouble but the fans stepped up with the most succesfull share issue of a football club EVER. yes we are better run than rangers hence we dont need to sell or kick people out the door on loan to free wages for new signings.you obviously know nothing about buisness as yes our trading profit is down but we have an agreed 13m credit limit with the bank you on the other hand have not.we are pretty much debt free cos we have been running our club in a proper fashion for years(clearing debt,PAYING TAXES,etc) we have a young team with huge profits from sell on potential,a clever scouting staff and an u/19 squad invited into the nxt gen tournament again nxt year(flippant i know but invaluable for experience)there are no "sugar daddies" at parkhead(like murray?) as we spend what we take in.no cockieness here mate just a belief that we hav the right people in the right place.finally,will you be re-newing yous season book nzt year? remember you WILL NOT BE PLAYING IN EUROPE NXT YEAR mr whyte and his"unique" accounting system has seen to that.i welcome any response you might have but.........MIND THE GAP. green jhedi

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Hit disagree button by mistake ..sorry ..trueblue..

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In reply to the septic fan and his crap septic were days away from folding until mcann came along they were jumping off the c roofs and all the rest you were only saved when mcann found the real"biscuit tin" lol the most successful share issue ever ha ha you mean fergus was doon the barras every weekend wi his big van full of dodgy stuff to sell and you had c/execs getting sacked championship winning managers walking out ..conspiracies round every corner and you are trying to say there are no sugar daddies Your fans say they have at least 3 to our one but you know when the going gets tough with these people charity always starts at home and dont give me your smug little cries we are better run than you! at least we had a galaxy of stars at one point and not just one dutch player who was admittedly good who cost next to nothing and gave your club a great return the reason he was signed was,nt due to your scouting system it was jansen who knew him and you could,nt even keep jansen what are you talking about you silly wee man?

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Green jehdi laugh if you want you,ve been better run for the last three seasons ? youve signed as many if not more duds than us and you ship them out same as the rest of us your mananger has,nt been clever either so if you had more money and are being better run why dont you have the record that says so mr embarrased?

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For a start it's Celtic no spectic or whatever jobbies you write.

Rangers have won it 3 years in a row yes but what happened 3 years before that ? It was Celtic run at 3 in a row going on 4? Celtic have done great considering the damage we were left with ? 

Let me explain GS leaves. the board sign TM he brings in a ton of loans & duds, gets the chop & walks away with with a BIG golden hand shake. Lennon comes in & more or less saves Celtic from anymore damage season ends (rangers 2 in a row) we sell our midfielder for 9.5m & bring in a whole team which we have now ok we have 2 flops out of 9 players ? Not to bad considering the sell on value of them ie hooper,ledley,ki etc if we sell them all at a average price of 2m we make our money back no problem. Now last season new team & Celtic blow it but they live & learn from it hopefully. this season had a run in Europe had every defender injured bar Mathews plus other players, fall out happen behind closed doors but that all gets sorted & now were top of the league with half a million debt ? Even with hardly any money from Europe paying Mowbray & co & signing players ? Not bad business if you ask anyone.

And before any smartass folk start with the you couldn't win the league even when keane was here. Keane was at Celtic park the last 2 years in the jan window  before he signed which when he did it was only to try & save Mowbray mess. 

Rangers won the league by playing defensive 4-5-1 etc boring football no wonder Scottish football is getting slated. Plus your off field troubles hurt the spl too, the whole transfer saga signing players, getting aluko to pay his way? No wonder clubs down south bid hardly any millions for our players. 

Another funny fact there's hooper & Forrest between them have 13m 'bids' from them Southampton & spurs ? Yet where's rangers youth ? Charlie adam? Look at him now ? Fleck ? Blackpool can't get a look in the team ? 

Youth is the way forward as it makes you monies ! 

Anyway mind the gap & pay yer tax 

That's all four now ;) 

Mind the GAP

Lenny

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Okay ist poster first(since you never gave a name!)what a load of nonsense.mccann payed the bank debt off n took control of the club,then got rid of the deadwood directors(ch/exutive as you say)then had the share issue(remember your pathetic attempt at it) which was the most succesfull EVER by a football club.yes a title manager walked cos we wouldnt go into debt and he had issues with jock brown. fergus listened to fans n got rid of brown.who was the dutch player you mention(larsson?)the scouting system you refer to was 20 years ago! im talking about now.izzaguere,hooper,forrest,ki,kayal,ledley,mathews etc.oh and your "galaxy of stars" hwz that working out for you now? no money,no euro games nxt year.poster two(again no name)just what are you babbling about?of course we have been better run for three years hence we are not in danger of our name being dragged thru the mud n becoming a laughing stock.of course there has been wrong signings(mowbray the worst) a load of signings the new manager had to ship out and replace(done not to bad i think)1st season lennon had the ross county embarasment(vastly changed team now)reached the league cup final n lost the league by a point but i think he learned lessons from that.decent display in europa league(how did ally do in europe again?) embarrased? not a chance mete.just happy were moving forward.you on the other hand..............well lets just wait n see eh. green jhedi

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To all you 'hollier then thou' Celtic fans, preaching how squeaky clean your board and manager are. Not that long ago the Kelly/White Family Dynasty were renowned in under stating the attendances at Celtic Park and not by just a few thousand.
I was in Celtic Park a few times, back then. They used to announce the crowd at half-time over the tannoy, which was usually received with laughter by the Celtic support because if fell so far short of the actual crowd size. But their day's takings were based on 'that' attendance figure for their accounts. So all this 'we are all Celtic taxpayers' makes me laugh. Your mob were robbing the taxman blind for years and the punters! If you know your history! we all know your history!

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What u on m8? rangers do the exact same thing, they include season ticket holders as being in attendance even if they are not, they are counted as paid seats! how at all is that similar to your 10+ years of defrauding the Queen, that yous love?
best 1 yet haha

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Glad you know our history mate cz in a month or twp you wont have one! you will be "newco rangers" founded 2012! long and illustrious heritage eh.trophies wiped out n in the 3d division,see you in three years if you ever get back up! green jhedi

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Still no response from the mystery posters! just thought id check. green jhedi. oh and as always....................mind the gap

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22 Jan 2012 10:41:35
Good Morning ostriches, I know you had a poor Saturday, looks like Sunday might not be much better.
HMRC are now going after Portsmouth for unpaid PAYE, strong rumours are that your "billionaire" might have done something similar at Rangers, if so there could be more pooh coming Rangers way oh dearie me LOL Timalloy

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22 Jan 2012 10:34:04
Not so much a rumour but a comment on the previous comments. Yes we are going threw a bad spell but surely people need to be supporting the club and opening their eyes. its far 2 easy to sit and blame McCoist when in reality he has no cash- Rangers squad isnt that much difference from last year - Miller lhas left (we still won the league) along with Foster, Weiss, Diouf and Bougherra. in my opinion from the last 4 Bougghy is the only 1st team player with Weiss Foster and Diouf all being fringe players and bringing in Bocanergra and Goian is great bit of business. i saw a comment saying all we have is crap - with Edu being included in that? Maurice Edu has been one of our most consistent players this season playing for the badge!! the players arent crap they are underachiving - Jelavic and Davis arent interested these are the 2 players that you want to be having a go at not the likes of Edu and Whittaker who are playin for the club and not a big money move! remember Rangers are never on top in January adn the league goes on till May - all the Coisty haters, i fully expect you to be at Ibrox when we lift that trophy for the 4th time in a row - with your tails between your legs no doubt chanting "Super Ally" WATP "Georgie"

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I just had to stop reading when you said whittiker! Agree on mo tho, hes our machine

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22 Jan 2012 12:04:06
anyone feel liam lawrence of portsmouth would be a great player to have in the centre of midfield, premier league experience and playing well in championship. around 2m i feel

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Sorry but 2million coming from where, we have no money! Blue4ever

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Jelavic sale

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22 Jan 2012 09:20:05
heard a wee rumour that rangers wuw know the outcime of the tax case on tuesday but wont be made public until march. so if we sell the best players we wuw know if we have lost it but whyte is addament he wont budge on the jelavic fee so i think the tax case has went our way. and for ellis he cant touch murray park no matter wat happens it still belongs to murray we just rent it from him so enough of slatting ellis give the guy a chance and see wat happens

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What a load of rubbish.no way will we know the tax results for weeks n then it will be hand delivered to whyte.he will be the guy who opens the envelope.lets see how immovable whyte is on jellavic on jan 30th.admin on its way,no euro football,no money.austere times ahead bears,anybody think ally is tactically aware enough to work with inferior players?

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22 Jan 2012 09:06:24
you still on this site bally

how goes it?

Club Deck Loyal.(chris-cpt)

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22 Jan 2012 07:37:50
2 Pete, I read your post about davis yesterday & you are bang on, I have been saying this for 2 seasons now never mind half-wits on here saying 2 sack SUPERALLY after half a season because if he keeps playing davis he will dig his own grave,at yesterday game 2 all you's who love davis & think the sun shines out of his arse because he is the blue eyed belfast boy, he shat his scants & cost us the goal pulled out of yet another 50-50 ball he is good at that I must admit, 1 of the best going in fact, but here's a thing I was talking 2 my brother in law & I was saying davis is never a RANGERS captain & my brother in law being 1 whom dodges soap said the same about scott brown not being a celtic captain to which I said yes he is probably correct but 1 thing about brown is he would never pull out of a challenge brown is s**te but he has balls like king kong,davis show hima 60-40 ball in his favour & his balls shrink like he's took a dook in the north sea
NTYABOW

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Davis is not captain material m8 I totally agree. After we went behind yesterday I instantly looked at him. He was stood with his hands on his hips looking at his feet. Butcher, Amo, Gough, Weir and the like would be roaring and shouting trying to inspire there men. I believe the captaincy is too much for a guy to be honest is only getting a game due to lack of competition.

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Ntyabow...you are full of sh...te,you would not know a player if he bit you on your a.....se..trueblue..

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22 Jan 2012 06:14:37
C'mon guys rally round and support the guys in blue, ok were dropping points to often but I don't blame Ally for this I blame the past when we had it do good the debt kept ticking up and up but we didn't care we wanted laudrup gazza van bronkhorst Albertz etc cause we craved success and we watched the best football in Britain at times and now were paying a heavy price. Now the rebuilding process has to happen obviously pending the court case from hmrc but even if we escape capital punishment I think we need a new buyer who can introduce a more generous purse as we will only attract a player suitable to play second fiddle to Celtic

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Its allys team, tactics, signings. cant blame the past, its not as though he was stepping into the unknown!

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I don't like the thought of McCoist getting the sack and yes it is Murray's fault we're in this mess but man for man we still have far superior players than any team in this league bar Celtic (and they aren't very good either) yet week after week we see the same kick and run, long ball football that at the moment isn't getting results. Like I say, I don't necessarily want McCoist out but he must take some of the blame. Look at the way StMirren and Killie try to play the game (I realise they both got beat yesterday and this probably isn't good timing to use them as an example) but all season they have played it out from the keeper to the CB and passed their way through games. How on earth can we not do that as well?!! Or at least try?! Plus we've heard we don't have a big enough squad to rotate, but Aberdeen had 3 or 4 under 21 players starting the match yesterday, so why don't we give our youth a chance in some games?

We need some inspiration!

End of rant.

pappy

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22 Jan 2012 02:45:15
A couple of things that all Rangers fans could do to help the club in financially difficult times-

# Buy your Rangers merchandise from the club shops and avoid places like ebay, amazon, street vendors and generic sports shops to increase funds put directly into the club.

# Start regularly attending games home and away. When I didn't have a season ticket I thought there was no way to get a hold of matchday briefs but ask around and you'll find that there are always spare tickets on the go. I don't always get the chance to make games due to work commitments and it always proves difficult to get rid of my matchday ticket. I hate to say it but my Celtic supporting friends don't have the same problems. I'm regularly being let down by so called 'Gers fans'.

The reality is that if we don't help out in these small ways then we wont have a club to support.

Barry Barry

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22 Jan 2012 02:42:46
ok everbody is saying "whats going on at rangers".... when the question should be.. "why are we being bum fu**ed by craig and ally" ?.... its time we got some answers.... how much money do we have ? why are we not signing decent players ? linked with sandanza ffs... this is a sad state to be in.... david murray really fu""ed us up badly... we all just want the good days back.... people talk about rangers quality... im hope we get players of quality soon or atleast kick the current squad up the arse.. tbh with the exception of mcgreggor goin and bocca ide benchthe rest and play all the young kids if we have any lol... anyways being a true blue i will always follow on watp

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22 Jan 2012 02:19:12
what do u all think about rangers and celtic moving to premiership? im chokin for this to happen tbh, bored of s**t spl games every week, downsides would be going from conference to prem and also less old firms but alot more big matches to enjoy, although we might get stuck in championship for 1 or 2 years considering how were playing atm rofl

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The EPL teams will never allow us into thier league as the amount of cash generated every year is split among all 20 teams and someone would have to make way to allow us in unless they expand to 22 teams. The only way to get in is to buy our way in which neither team can afford to do.

I would like to see them challenge to get into the EPL or championship on the grounds that several Welsh teams currently compete in the league so why shouldnt we?

A British Supercup would be a good first step.

Barry Barry

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We cant beat Aberdeen, St Mirren, St Johnstone or Hearts at home and you want to move to the Premiership??

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We would be stuck in the leagues under the championship for a while and would spend a few years trying to stabilise ourselves as a championship team. 8-10 years before you could even dream of the PL.

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It's never going to happen. They don't want us down there. N with this current team we'd get torn to pieces

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I think if rangers could join the bottom rung of the english leagues and make their way up to the premiership it would be grat . think about it we would sail through the leagues with our sport and renewed financial muscle sponsors would be falling over themselves . yes it would take a few years to get to premier but it would be a fun ride all the way and would get us out the s**t we are in. and think about it where are we gonna be in 5 years anyway.

ricrangers

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Aye but if we had the money they get then we would be close

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You would need to start in the blue square then work thru from there.sponsorship would go down,corporate would go down therefore wages would go down.what about season ticket money? rangers v blyth spartans what would you pay? no euro football for at least 5 years? financial muscle? hardly! not really thought this out eh? green jhedi

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I think we screwed our chances in manchester they think were a mongrel bunch

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22 Jan 2012 01:23:47
Listen folks! The time to fear is not just now. We'r still in with a fighting chance. We are all rangers fans (or suppose to be) on here. Let's get behind the team like fans should in the clubs time of need. Super ally will alway be my hero and a legend and I personal feel that he his the man to lead us on. But we don't know what's going on inside the club. It is easy for people to come on here and rant on about this and that but until we know the facts about everything going on.... who are we to judge. The league is not lost. Not by a long shot and we will be up there to the end. Get behind the team and forget about all the rubbish, we are fans at the end of the day and all want the best for our club. The only thing we can do amis show our support to the players and management on match days and help pull the club out of this mess by showing how loyal we are to supporting the team we love.

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22 Jan 2012 00:33:59
Very dissapointed in 2days performance but the form of the team isnt my biggest worry because we all know form is temporary class is permanent.but my first worry is....certain players in our team taking the place in the startin 11 for granted as if they are irraplacable so a wee spell on the sidelines may be required firstly would be davis quickly followed by goian both had had about 1 good game in about 12 games not good enough for key players ally has to grow a set stamp his own authority and personality on the team not use walters old tricks it works for wattie not ally..

2nd point has to be allys selection at times he either has to pick either papac or wallace at LB and use an attacking minded player at LM especially at ibrox and for bartley at RB.. a do like the big man but at RB massive no he looks very un comftable and it shows especially today for the sheeps goal also healy he just doesnt haved it anymore sorry but there must be a young boy in the 19s can do better than him..

3rd point is allys ego bein too big for him if he wants to be manager of our club get a grip be the bigger man ally n put ur diffrence aside firstly fleck fell out with him in the past and look hes away on loan a think we have played better football with him in our team this season then there mcmillan also falling out in the past the only natural RB at the club and ally doest use him or give him a chance very poor managment the there is mckay also rumoured to have falling out with, australian player of the year but he can make our squad?? very strange lastly we al know we need a goal scorer the is one sitting on our door step in boyd c'mon ally swallow ur pride n stop acting like a child n start acting like a rangers manager..

any thoughts anyone?....

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"form is temporary class is permanent". Stop being a muppet and making stupid bog standard statements. Rangers don't have much class.

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I think the reason the EPL dont want the old firm is that they dont want the population of Britains biggest lunatic asylum coming to their place of residence!
sad as it might be the english still think they are a cut above scots and scotland ..why do they keep all the nuclear weapons in scotland ?why do they test the poll tax in scotland ?why do they always try to stitch scotland up ?They dont like us !scotland is a beautiful country The english have tried and failed for hundreds of years to turn it into a rubbish dump.Maybe its time to stop this stupidity all together?

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22 Jan 2012 00:22:10
has anyone any ideas why davis is so poor??
he has to go for me. or at least get dropped just to try n get him going
n he should nt be captain for me. either boca or macgregor
n he shouldnt have let fleck go
n kerkar seems no bad. give him a shot on the left. wt we gt to loose no?
opinions??

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He doesn't trust edu.

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He doesn't trust edu? What a load of sh#t. Every player has a job to do and Davis should concentrate on his own performance before worrying about edu's. Plus edu has been playing well recently. Davisis just well over-rated and Naismith made him look good.
Johnger

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22 Jan 2012 00:01:57
Sandazza gets the winner today 'again' he's playing and scoring every week against the very same players as jella and Healey is,,,,oh and by the way...fran doesnt take the penalties for saints either....got to p*** myself at the diddy's who come on and say he isn't Rangers class.....he would have done us a proper turn , and for what....300k, and a two year deal.....who is Rangers class '''that we can afford'' any offers?

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Cause of that might be ,the way i see it,we owe hearts 800k,we will owe celik's team at least 200k(payable in 30 days from signing) so thats 1m in the hole.

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Good point.

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