Rangers Banter Archive August 02 2011

02 Aug 2011 21:43:42
BBC website reporting "suggestion" of Verhoek to Ajax for £1.2m on 4year deal (bottom of Murphy story). Seems low to me.

Already knocked them back doesnt want to remain in Netherlands

02 Aug 2011 21:34:30
Any news as to how Odonker is getting on with his trial?

02 Aug 2011 21:32:32
Goodwills is to sign for blackburn tomorrow at 12, hes down there just now so no point posting on here hes still on the radar, only way we can get him if he pulls out himself and sais he wants to join us

Right time to move on...hes not the be all and end all


Ivan Trovoski 1.5 million?

Verhock?

PS i fully trust whyte ppl need to remember he is inexperienced at this but he'll get it together

Bartley is to sign for Bolton btw

Ivan trickovski would be a good shout two footed and can crack one fae outside the box something wehave been missing for a couple of years

02 Aug 2011 16:01:22
For god's sake let us all stop talking about nothing but Goodwillie, there are other areas we should be putting emphasis on.

02 Aug 2011 16:04:36
Goodwillie not worth that money, just forget it now. He is a decent striker but theres better out there cheaper. We do we need another striker anyway? Havent we got Healy, Jelavic, Lafferty, Hemmings, Naismith so why need another one. Give Healy a few starts and he will start banging in the goals, he is a goal poacher. Maybe that Rhys Murphy might be a decent signing he looks very skillful and good finisher in what ive seen of him & a bonus hes a freebie. Take a chance.

Rory

02 Aug 2011 15:53:30
Surely we must make a bid that betters the Blackburn one. if there both the same which one are utd going to accept the Blackburn one, or the team that plays utd on numerous occassions throughout the
season and where Goodwillie's goalsv could come back to haunt them.

Aye its hard one eh ? get a grip Who's running our club The Chuckle Brothers ?

Will everyone stop thinking Goodwillie is the new Pele.

02 Aug 2011 15:51:31
...STV now reporting our latest two bids have been rejected...(thats seven kin bids now)...its down to Goodwillie now...if he wants to play for us then get back up here and sign...if not we should look elsewhere now.end of rant

02 Aug 2011 15:42:46
I honestly wont be surprised if mccoist resigns. He is showing whyte what players he wants and then a few weeks later whyte puts in a pathetic bid which has no chance of getting accepted. I really do feel for mccoist. But lets all give him some credit with what he has done with what he's got.

Give him credit for what hes done i hope you mean his 350 odd goals for the club, as no credit is due yet for dropped points against Hearts, turned over by Malmo, and a sub standard performance against saints. Get thru tomorrow night and i'll start to show him some credit

Why should he resign ? The difference between Ally McCoist and Craig Whyte is that Ally supported, played, coached and now Manages the club he loves so much. Craig Whyte is a asset stripping so called busienessman, who has come in with precisely £1.00 and taken on the debt of an institution, which quite frankly was on it's knees. Whyte, for me, has absolutely no football interest in GLASGOW RANGERS and will sell the club on at a profit somewhere down the line, but not before he has stripped the club of our most valuable assets, THE BEST PLAYERS I now believe that he has offered certain players 5 Yr deals to assure a neat profit in the transfer market, and it may just be before the window closes in August..... This is an ordeal under this man, and if we don't get into the C/L group stages, what then ??? BUT, again, why should Ally resign ? Whyte will choose who, and what will be Rangers future until the time to sell has come and he has fleeced the club, investing little and selling for a small fortune.................. HE should go

Credit? Some of the worst tactics I have seen from a Rangers manager and some very poor performances in friendlies and when it matters.

What part of , have no money to buy players do you not understand

02 Aug 2011 15:32:25
RANGERS FAIL IN TWO NEW BIDS FOR GOODWILLIE
source stv

02 Aug 2011 15:27:00
S tv say bids rejected just give up

02 Aug 2011 15:02:24
he is undergoing medical at Blackburn after agreeing personal terms, around 20k week plus 280k signing on fee.
maybe too late in the day, but why has it taken so long, a month to agree the fee, when they knew what the price was, shambles and no way to do business and sounds like a panic bid as another signing target slips away

02 Aug 2011 14:59:43
fellow bears, it now looks like were going to lose wesley verhoek who is a flying machine with a terrific delivery. the old board seem to have been talking sense. feel for coisty

Ally would only put him at right back anyway...

100% agree. he would have been a great signing for us but the clueless board wouldny get their fingers oot there behind to buy him. shame eh?

02 Aug 2011 15:10:42
dundee have rejected rangers offer which matched blackburns offer source ssn, they are takin the p**s now, they have a vendeta against us

02 Aug 2011 13:46:59
Stv have just pulled Goodwillie medical story from their website?

02 Aug 2011 14:44:12
Absolute lies. Ive bn listening to clyde 1 all day and there has been no mention of goodwillie. Pathetic

02 Aug 2011 14:31:44
VIEWS AND NEWS

About Jim Jefferies, personally I would love to see him come in at Rangers even for a wee while to possibly offer help for ally mccoist or even as a coac as he looks for a permanent mangers job along with billy brown. Romanov is a complete w*nker.

anyway my suspicions about Craig Whyte are growing as we are getting deeper into the season we have no cover at all for all positions bar GK. If bougie goes (which looks likely now and good luck to him) we will fail at the back, a would personally love to see Rangers go for alan hutton on loan and a big strong centre back, either bartley and cuellar or juhsaz or how ever u spell his name. but fair enough Craig Whyte has done somethings like contracts for key players and unfortuanlty whitaker ..... C'mon Smith, Whyte n coisty grow some baws and start bringing the players in we need instead of fannying about like arses man.

02 Aug 2011 14:24:48
Dont really post on this much , nothing to do with transfers but am lookin at the 3 tops that we have brought out and a think there a bit poor , time to bring back adidas and bin umbro

Aye that third strips a right snider. looks like a wean won a competition to design it

Agree.. some timothy working for umbro is having a rite laugh coming up with these horrendous designs..back to adidas anyday

02 Aug 2011 13:15:12
rangers have taken young arsenal striker rhys murphy on trail. he played in a bounce game against hamilton and along with odonkor looked the part. game finished 2-1 with healy and fleck finding the net

02 Aug 2011 13:08:28
Sky Sports just played interview with McCoist stating they are still in talks with Dundee Utd and that he's optimistic about signing Goodwillie

Hes away to blackburn that interview was done at 9 this morning

As optomistic as you can be when every bid your board place gets refused

02 Aug 2011 12:52:16
ed: dont you think this site should only post
rumours that have a source attached? {Ed019's Note - not necesarilly. its a sight that allows rangers fans to discuss any transfer gossip they have heard and voice their opinons, spark up a debate sometimes have a bit of banter. the editors can recognise wether or not the rumour is rubbish and will generally moderate it appropriately.

Feel so sorry for you sifting through so much sh*t lol mark.

02 Aug 2011 12:38:00
ANYBODY ELSE FEEL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN UP ON GOODWILLIE A LONG TIME AGO .. HE IS COMING WITH A HELL OF ALOT OF BAGGAGE AND NOW, IF HE WAS TO BECOME A RANGERS PLAYER - HALF OF GLASGOW WILL BE AGAINST HIM.

AGREE - YOU WANT HIM

DISAGREE - MOVE ON AND LOOK AT ANOTHER STRIKER

If we didn't fanny about when we started bidding and gave UTD what they were looking for, £2m he would be a Rangers player by now. and it looks like the same is going to happen with the dutch lad.

02 Aug 2011 12:33:24
Ed can you not put a stop to all the Goodwillie rumours until something concrete comes through? Fed up reading about him. The sooner he signs for Blackburn the better {Ed019's Note - myself and my colleague have done this a few times. if there is an update then the rumlurs get posted again, obviously today is a new day so there will be updates. the traffic is heavier for the verhoek fulham situation anyway, but rest assured if we get too many goodwillie rumours, we will moderate them.

02 Aug 2011 12:14:53
Hi Bears, Ive been working on a Jelavic montage recently, would just like your opinions as its my first go.

cheers (Y)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZHttgrwKQ

02 Aug 2011 11:36:40
Everybody is saying we couldnt afford joey barton's wages, which is most likely to be true. but surely a club as big as rangers should be able to put together a decent package to at least make him consider us? If we signed a player like barton, surely we could offer him a percentage of shirt sales and stuff? as well as appearance fees, goal bonuses, win bonuses, bonuses for winning the league or going so far in europe ? Dont know what you guys think about it but surely we should try making a statement by offering him a deal ?

Jamie

Again make an offer then u will be on ere calling ally, and whyte all the names under the sun for not getting him??

Not at all ive actually been one of the ones who thinks we are quite right not to jump into deals. I know everybody keeps saying about this warchest we've got but quite clearly the wages are included in this. But we wouldnt be paying a fee for him. If mcgregors basic wage is £28k a week, and u think about bonuses on top of that hes on a very decent wage. So if barton is wanting a 4 year deal(like it says on bbc website) with a bit more £££ with bonuses on top, then the overall cost of the deal wouldnt be far off mcgregors 6 year contract? He might turn round and say no but at least it sends out a message to the rest of the fans that we still want the best of players at the club? In my opinion i think its worth a shot.

Jamie

02 Aug 2011 11:18:59
Looks like Rangers are still ot learning how the transfer market works, as our fooling about has another Premier League team ready to pay the asking price while we are still counting our change. When will the new management team learn how to do business quickly and effectively. I would rather we bought half the players we need and pick up the rest on loan. Otherwise we are going to loose out on all out priority signings

It's like watching Mr Bean, running a football club.

Nah....mr bean talks more than mr whyte.

02 Aug 2011 11:15:54
These low bids are harming us now, doesn't look like we'll e getting verhoek now, if we go straight in then we will get these players, they're trying to save money but in the Goodwillie case we could have already got him for 2mil but now it looks like if we do get him it will be for 2.8mil which is getting frustrating now

02 Aug 2011 10:16:53
I'm a Season Ticket Holder and the
one thing that must Change in this
Whyte Era is the way in which we
are doing our Transfer Business at
the moment Why can't we do the
business behind closed doars and
once the deal is done then let the
World know This is making the
club look very un professional,
let's not take one step back
That's one thing in the last era that
MR MURRAY did get right. What's
your thoughts fellow Blue Noses??

Agents, is the reason transfer are made so public nowadays touting for business for their clinics trying to get prices/wages up.

Its Not Always Down To The Club Leaking Transfer News, Mostly Down To The Agents Trying To Drum Up Interest In Thier Clients, It Always Get Media Attention When A Player Is Linked With A Club Of Our Stature, When The Info Is Realeased The Club Have The Option To Agree Or Disagree

Ur right about murray we didnt know until rangers fc told us during murray an agents were just as bad then so that aint an excuse are we gona miss out on verhoek now ?

Other reply is correct agents make sure everyone knows, and as for Murray doing it right, come on he paid silly money and that is why we are in this fix.

Also you cant spell doors lol

I Dont Believe This Is The Case As He Rates The Mighty Gers And Sent Out A Come And Get Me Plea To Super Ally So I Think If We Can Get A Bid Accepted I Know Its A Big If But If We Do I Believe He Will Be A Ger And Be Wearing The Royal Blue Of The Champs. WATP

02 Aug 2011 09:43:43
Not a rumour, just wanted to ask your opinion on Joey Barton?

Personally I think he'd be a huge success at Ibrox, whether or not we could afford him though I'm not so sure. {Ed019's Note - I do like him to be honest. Hard player. Dont think he would consider a move, we cant afford his wages.

Aparently on £50k per week, so probably Liverpool bound to be honest...Scouser, friends with Steeeeee Gerrard, and too good for us

Ger4life

He is on around £65k a week do you think we can pay his wages???

02 Aug 2011 09:26:33
I think we need to be realistic We have been lied to from Mr Whyte regarding the amount of money he has to put in the team, The bids we have put in for ayers are disgraceful and embarrassing.
We are now a laughing stock in the UK. We will be out of the champions league after the Malmo game and Ally will be made the scape goat.
The future for Rangers is extremely bleak with the management and squad we have at the moment.
Why go for Goodwillie? Not that good of a striker We missed out on soany signings due to pathetic bids, now looks like Wesley Verhoek is off to Fulham as they have thrown their hat in the ring, he will choose Fulham over us as they will offer better wages.

We have to be realistic and realize that people like you are just glory hunting w***s and not rangers fans. If things are so bad don't watch, post or comment. I'm sure some other team are in desperate need of your optimism.

You have no faith wee will still be in champions league after wedensday ally will get us the players wee need so cam down and support ally mcoist and mr whyte on what he is doing

Our debt is cleared, and we haven't had to sell any of our important players. You're clearly over-reacting.

02 Aug 2011 09:03:06
Good Morning Ed047 before I head off to work hear is a wee snippet for your rangers fans.
Mr Whyte has hired a new Japanese Agent/Negotiator for future transfer bids etc.
he is called NO KAN DO LOL timalloy

Terrible joke.

But on the plus side nice to see one of your kind who actually has a job... Good on you.

And we have a new far eastern correspondant called Fuk yu Wan Ker

Dont you mean sign on? Me - Ne Ji-ro

Ha ha Hilarious. Your wasted here. Really you should do stand up Hee hee I'm crying with laughter. Ha. Timmy with a job where do you think them up

Bluegenius.

Community service doesnt count as a job Dhimwit

02 Aug 2011 07:58:28
Where's Snowy, I have not heard any decent rumours for a few days now, is Snowy still out walkin? I want to know from the best source (Snowy's da's uncles granny's brother in law) who we are rumoured with for sure....personally would like to see Goodwillie at Ibrox, but I trust in the Gers, and there's plenty time for signings yet. Be patient fellow Champions, all good things to those who wait, Ally has never done us a bad turn, he wouldn't let it happen In Ally we trust, In Rangers we believe....we'll sign who we need before the transfer deadline...Barton doubtful, Weiss no, Bartley undecided, Juhasz yes (need to bid more though) Verhoek don't know (McLaren got his nose in) Murphy he's moving down south, there'llm be plenty more on the radar, and we'll sign those who want to play for the shirt before the money talks...Ed who have you heard us linked with for definite m8? AND WHERE'S SNOWY ?? {Ed019's Note - currently linked/have made bids for Juhasz, Verhoek and tryin to bring Bedoya in. Thats about it at the moment. Were also still in discussions with Dundee Utd about Goodwillie.

Thank you Ed, appreciate feedback, luvin yer work, Ger4life......no matter what {Ed019's Note - thanks mate!

02 Aug 2011 07:58:07
i not being funny here but DG travelled down to see his manager yesterday, when he got there he was told that the manager had travelled to india. How un professional is that, that tells you all you need to about BBR. Theres no way Rangers would treat you like that. Steve Kean will get shown the door soon just like JJ did yesterday. The way those kind of clubs are run is a disgrace, so David Goodwillie why do you want to go there?? I cant see you being too happy in those chicken adverts, they are a joke.

02 Aug 2011 02:53:15
Ally should at least try and sign Joey Barton, its highly unlikely that he would come, however, if we are prepared to pay £xm for gw, who I just dont rate, i feel we would be better taking £xm to the centre circle of ibrox and burning it, he just isnt worth the money, a squad player maybe, but even thats a push. Besides, whats the point in having strikers when we have no midfield to provide chances, our midfield has been sh*te for the past 3/4 years, our success was built on a solid defence of 9, with one up top, edu and lee mac need to be replaced, and Barton would give us legs and dig alongside davis, then we would just need two wingers and a replacement for bougie hopefully cueller and we would be fine. I hope we dont get gw, would rather spend his transfer fee on bartons wages tbh, far better player and we need him a lot more than a 2nd rate united striker, personally, i think murphy of motherwell is far better, I would even rather give heally a chance.

gersfan

02 Aug 2011 01:33:14
rabout all this David Goodwillie heading to murray park tomorow must be alot of rubbish cuz did ally and the squad not fly out today for wednesday nights game with malmo

personaly i think he is 1 we have left slip wish he was signing but i think he will be joining blackburn unfortunatly {Ed047's Note - Gordon Smith would be dealing with it, not McCoist, IF it were to happen

Gers fly out this morning ( Tuesday ), not Monday..... so we'll need to wait and see

02 Aug 2011 01:27:10
I told you all last week that GW will not be at Rangers and he wont be

We will sign the following over the urse of the next week
Bartley - Loan
Juhasz - Replace Bougie 3mil
Verhoek - 2mil

Depending on what happens against malmo, there will be further signings if we get through decent name striker and CM

If we dont get through, Murphy will be brought in to compliment jela and Lafferty

Wait and see all, maccaintheknow

Id be quite happy with that tbh - i think we defo need murphy - now it looks like were missing out on Goodwillie.

Cant see whyte signing the cheques though.

Ryan

If you're correct I'll donate 50 quid to chairty. Seriously doubt we'll get Juhasz AND verhoek, if even one of them.

02 Aug 2011 01:00:42
At least having allegedly finally matched BR's offer for Goodwillie we have forced Thompson's hand. Bet he was absolutely raging when he heard he hadn't signed for BR the day Now he has to admit what we all know already- he and their manager would rather stick hot pins in their eyes than sell to Rangers. The strange way we've gone about things has been embarrassing. However, all their constant "David is better off in England" ramblings somewhat spoke volumes of their true agenda. If it were me, I'd go to Rangers just to spite them Getting what he's worth should be their only concern.

I can see Thompson going back to BR for more just to reestablish them as "highest bidder" even though it's irrelevant if he won't sign for them. Might be a bit of a stalemate. Might tick along until the end of the window at which point tight-@rse Thomo has a difficult decision to make; between the pennies and selling to Rangers (a fate worse than death).

Randolph True Blue

I may be wrong here and i often am but IF Rangers have tabled the exact same deal as BR then Thomson is pretty well f**k*d as there are employment rules even in football.To deny a player freedom to choose when both bidders have tabled the same offers would be against the players best interests and i'm pretty sure against UEFA rules.
Thompson can only withdraw the sale of Goodwillie to all or try to convince BR to up their bid.I suspect he's praying for BR to up their offer.

01 Aug 2011 17:59:08
does any 1 know if cuellar is still going to be coming to rangers .... do u know anything ed {Ed047's Note - still the same situation. Rangers still want him and waiting for his decision, but neither party rushing it due to his injury

02 Aug 2011 00:31:25
i would rather we signed jamie murphy over david goodwillie as murphy would only cost like 1m and i think would be a great player for us can play up front and on the left wing

02 Aug 2011 00:30:23
goodwillies deal is on, now its not, this bid has been rejected, that one doesnt match the valuation, dg has had it out with thompson, jamie murphy is a gers fans, oh no hes not, darren cole went to college, but where? aaaahhh see, lies.what is a actually happening at rangers is anybodys guess but ill tell u one thing, theres no half some wallopers on here.

02 Aug 2011 00:26:32
Joey Barton , available on a free ;) he would be brilliant for us , can play in the middle and seen him play rm last season and looked class , to get him for free would be a good bit of business

Good shout lad, and who would pay his sky high wages?

02 Aug 2011 00:21:17
if goodie is a gers fan , he should see out his contract at d.u and sign pre contrct with gers

He should have done that last year. If we don't get him I wouldn't care go to Blackburn and disapear .

Think about it. He would have to waste a year of his career playing only SPL football outside the old firm when he could, at the very least, play EPL football for a much higher wage?

01 Aug 2011 23:51:05
ok if we dont get david goodwillie we only have ourselfs to blame as use are saying we have matched the blackburn offer then why not just pay the f***ing 2m at the start and he could be wearing that famous blue jersey already