Rangers Banter Archive August 31 2013

 

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31 Aug 2013 22:29:49
Again I would like to thank Ally and his team for doing a good job -

4 games 12 points!

18 goals for!

1 goal against!

Simples.

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Simples team of nobodies that nobody wants play some part time call centre building site and council workers woo hoo

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Okay, you think the team is showing signs of progress. I agree 100% with you there. But let's face it, how the f**k could they not show progress with a team who costs ££££££££'s playing in a league of part timers? It's a bit like Captain Schettino on that Italian cruise ship, showing off to anyone who will look, but ultimately crashing on the rocks and causing a disaster. You are sailing close to the rocks people!

Radallosh

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Admin would wipe of 27 pts, so need to win everyngame

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@2 or the captain on the titanic saying "what iceberg-i can`t see no iceberg everything gonny be alright, now can I get back to having my head in the sand " and the spotter replying, "ok captain apathy, goodnight, but you won`t have a ship in the morning. "

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To number 1 barca won't be like the pub team you beat last week milan and ajax ly in wait I see bottom of the group coming up

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To no. 5. Bet u said that last year too
But hey ho if we end wiv no points at least we were there. BTW enjoy the chip shop pawn cup

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31 Aug 2013 19:43:28
as a matter of interest, can Rangers sign free agents AFTER tonights deadline?
And I mean more than the 8 new guys coming in.

Wee Bill {Ed001's Note - yes.}

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Why would you want to sign anymore players?

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If like England the deadline went on to midnight monday night then Rangers would have been allowed to buy a player if they so wanted.

I think this is the first time that this has happened.

Can the ed enlighten us, is this so?

Matt Crozier {Ed001's Note - the Scottish window has always closed at a different time to the English one, sometimes just an hour earlier, but, as far as I can remember, they have always tried to be different. Though it is odd to close it on a weekend, highly unusual.}

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It's because the SFA class Saturday as a working day where as the other associations do not. They have a full staff working today.

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Think its a good thing anyway, ally would just waste. money we ain't got.

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31 Aug 2013 21:30:43
So the sfa are now to be reviled for ensuring that the intention of the embargo is in fact achieved rather than allowing it to be trampled over in substance well as spirit. How monstrous of them.

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Matt, Why in hell would we want to buy players? Get real, the only affect to Scottish clubs is the loan situation, as it appears that certain English clubs, for whatever reason, cannot allow players to leave until Monday.
billyb

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We can sign any free agent after the 31st - the only reason we have not signed any one -cause we cant! That's what the ban is all about - we cannot buy any 1 until jan

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31 Aug 2013 22:32:06
5)@3 and op no its nothing to do with a working day, the sfa have never did 2 days of difference before, its just another way of screwing Rangers, and don't call me paranoid, cause this isn't a Rangers fan posting this, Arsenal fan.

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1) don't really want more, but I was wondering about Pandza, Simonsen and Kelly.
We seem to be messing these guys about - they need decisions so they can move on.

Wee Bill

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@8 it's nothing to do with anybody screwing rangers we got a 1 year ban which effectively means we miss 2 transfer window

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Buying players is what football teams do, so it is - they do it to improve the team, so that fans can enjoy the football - is that not what they turn up for? or am I missing something.

Some posters on here seem to think we are skint. We are not skint! We have 10 million pounds in the bank. We have nearly maximum attendance every second week. Answer me a question - apart from celtic who else has money in the bank?
We have people with money wanting to back us.

I really do wish that so called supporters would stop decrying the club that they supposedly love and support them - simples!

Matt Crozier

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01 Sep 2013 08:37:36
@11 Your posts are getting more annoying, maybe that's your intention, but if you also want people to think your opinions count for anything you've not done yourself any favours there. A laughably naive post mate. You could have 10 zillion in the bank, it wouldn't be enough if your expenditure is 20 zillion. Do you know what rangers expenditure is, why no mention of that in your post? Only looking at one side of the equation won't do us any good at all, and its tediously embarassing of you to quote the £10m as some kind of boast. You make the same naive mistake when you ask who else has money in the bank? The crucial point is that other clubs are in the entirely normal position of having a credit line from a bank. We have NO CREDIT facility. We literally are living out of our own pockets so have to be all the more careful about what we spend. Simples, though you have obviously not grasped it yet. Catch up mate, your ignorance is getting tiresome. See if you look around you'll find that perch you think you're on disappeared along with the credit line.

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@5 the sfa are closing the window a day early to make sure Rangers get the full punishment they intended for them and in so doing punishing every other team in Scotland, I'm not necessarily talking about signing players but selling them to English teams the last day of the window is always frantic but no team in Scotland can be part of it because a suit at the sfa didn't word the ban properly hence our window closes early, it's pathetic!

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Matt paying players will eat £7m, other costs £6m, so by may we skint, and unable to pay any more salaries or anything.

we burning £1.5m/month. so £10m last 6 months tops.

we bought edmington, now plans to knock it down and rebuild. ?

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@ed + no@8 I quite agree there may be some truth in the sfa having an agenda against rangers and their transfer embargo (being looked into I hear). and to @matt how do you know rangers have £10mill in the bank just becoz someone says so, well in my opinion they have nowhere near that figure, why do you think they are asking ally and all staff to take paycuts, you talk of fish wives when the only smell of something fishy is coming from behind the boardroom doors, so I am asking you to take heed to some of the people on here and open your eyes and ears, because I have met personally with a few of them and they are as honest a group of people that I have met in my life, and I give you my word on that, SONS OF STRUTH DEMAND THE TRUTH.

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Iagree with you matt there are far 2many people who would rather moan than look at the positives we are on the way back we have talent to succeed when we get there and all who stayed and who arrive over the next 24months will make us a force again and will be rembered for staying true to the cause which is our rangers team so reimber courage brothers do not stumble the detractors will get their comeuppance WATP

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You are correct on the spending to build a team is good and we HAD £10m in the bank that was weeks ago, unless you are living on the moon you will have read the Board lost £22MILLION in 7 months (spent you would call it) this equates to £150000 A DAY so Matt yes keep spending and admin will come in 2 months from NOW.
Spending WITHIN your means is what we should be doing and for me that is not buying SPFL players or free transfers BUT on SPFL wages like Ally in on DOUBLE Lennon's SPFL salary. I hate to admit it but Celtic's financial model is working and ours did not with the help of Fraudster Craig Whyte. It will put us in Admin again in 2 months.
People do want to invest in Rangers but never with these crooks running the show at a loss of £3Million a month £105000 A DAY!
So Matt what do you want 2 months of SPFL standard football and Admin or prudent spending by a new Board and Long Term security for our team Rangers FC. george

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31 Aug 2013 18:23:03
Too many posters on here are being disingenuous to Rangers and in particular to Ally.

Ally said last year that he had to go with what he had at the time, which was two first team players and a bunch of youths. He tried at the time and for one reason or another he was unable to bring in the players he wanted.

Looking back he would probably change a lot of what he did and who he brought in, however, hindsight is something we are all blesses with.

Because of the lack of quality on and off the pitch he was forced into playing players out of position and even I questioned his decisions at times.

This is the season Ally said that we should look at and judge him by.

So far, in my humble opinion Ally is doing a superb job, and long may it continue.

Too many fish wives from the other side coming on here dooming and glooming - please go away and play somewhere else.

Remember All can only play what is in front of him.

Q. Is this the first time that the transfer window has been closed on a weekend?

I seem to remember that it always went to the Monday. Am I right?

Matt Crozier

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31 Aug 2013 19:31:48
He's lost the biggest game he's played in and beat a lot of part time plumbers and joiners convincingly.

Really, is it possible that anybody managing Rangers this season wouldn't win that league by a mile with the players at his disposal?

No imo.

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Biggest problem with Ally last year was negativity and I must admit this seems to have improved. However, he seems to want to purchase a sledgehammer to crack a peanut this season. His biggest problem is that he cannot change things when the team is down. This does not just happen now, remember Malmo and Maribor. In simple English he is not the man to take us forward.
billyb

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I am flabbergasted, I truly am.

Rangers do not need fans having a go at the manager. We need stability on the pitch.

Please keep your thoughts about the manager for another day. We do not need this right now.

What is this rubbish about a hammer to crack a nut?

Would you have the team struggling to win?

Would you have Ally buy bargain basement again?

Would you have Ally play part-timers and joiners?

I really do not understand some posters - you must be fish wives. You are not true supporters.

Matt Crozier

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2 first team players? So who out of Alexander, McCulloch, Wallace, Goian, Bocanegra and Edu were the 2 first team players?

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@3/ You realise you come across as one very arrogant individual don't you? It seems anyone with a different opinion to yours is wrong. Can you not accept billyb's point that Ally is covering up the fact that as yet his coaching seems to be pretty poor?

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Flabbergasted you may be but you brought the topic of the manager's ability to the table and I would say the majority would doubt he has any.
Fish wives we may be, but better there than cloud cuckoo land.
Stability will not be there if you and Ally have your kamikaze spending policy. He should have been given a budget and not a free hand to buy or is this another case of losing sight of pounds being wasted while the bank is being plundered. Finally, your comment on the transfer window, what is your point?
billyb

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@3 how can you not be a true supporter if you criticise Ally McCoist? I suppose you have been happy with all the early cup exits? Or maybe you enjoyed 1 up front at home in Div 3? Perhaps you enjoyed watching the team struggle against part time players and drop points against the giants of world football in Annan, Stirling A, Peterhead and Elgin. This was all achieved with the 2nd biggest budget in Scottish football

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31 Aug 2013 21:28:28
Matt I said last week that all the signings that superally has made are being made for the long term not the short, who in their right mind thinks we are not going to win the league this year, but it will be more difficult next year to win the league, so he needs all the players playing together for a season getting to know each others game & come next season can fine tune his squad even more bring in a few quality players & we will be flying, so don't get upset mate some people on here can't see 2 feet in front of them never mind talk about football
Andhol bears

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@3 so because we have a different opinion of the current manager than you we are not true supporters? What a ridiculous post- wind your neck in ffs

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31 Aug 2013 21:48:20
Matt, I agree there are sum posters on here who appear to hate ally, they say they used to hero worship him and now they despise him, that can't be right because they don't have any real proof that he has damaged rangers, and if they really loved him as a player, when he was a major part of our most successful period, then how can they possibly hate him now, and I don't mean disagree with his position as manager, I mean the real, palpable hate shown on here to one of our ownm that gives more credence to your post that some of those posts are not from our fans, sometimes last season he completely made an arse of himself and the team, his decisions were frankly bizzare, but I'm willing to give him a season to get us near to were we should be, so far so good, league cup was an abomination but it can't happen again, ally has got to beat these smaller teams from now on and make an impact, or else its curtains for him, I hope dave king returns soon and takes control, let ally do his job and win this league, then we should decide if he is the right man tk take us forward, tommyblue

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@matt you started the post about mc coist then you replied to someone to keep their opinions for another day, so why start the post in the first place.

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31 Aug 2013 22:58:38
12@matt I totally agree with you mate, I think if some people on here call themselves true rangers fan's they need to look hard in the mirror, nothing better to do than slag off one of rangers all time greats who stood by the club when it would have been easier walking away at our worst, I firmly believe this is the season to judge ally with a real pre season under us and better players, and this season so far I don't think anybody has got any reason to complain about how we are playing this season and results! One bad cup game that new players couldn't play in and part time supporters want ally's blood! Don't you think its time to get behind the manager and players now and enough of this witch hunting ffs! Alex

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Matt I've been going to see Rangers for decades, I even remember hoping Ally would sign for us in 1981 but he chose Sunderland, a team struggling then in England as they paid higher wages. So all the Ally would do anything for Rangers strikes me as daft.

And while I'm at it, I'm certainly no fish wife.

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@ 3 are you the only one entitled to an opinion?. As for fish wive's FFs grow up
Tam

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Re 11 - I started the post to back Ally up I did not intend nor expect so called Rangers supporters to denigrate him. I would have expected Rangers supporters to rally round the cause. Perhaps those that moan about Ally and his efforts have other agendas!

Matt Crozier

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@15 other agenda's being the whole world and his brother know Ally has no technical ability as a manager but he does have the ability to get the best players in through wages to win that particular division. Apart from Motherwell he has been found wanting against better opposition as his cup record will prove.

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01 Sep 2013 10:03:06
Matt. You probably backed the calls to march on the BBC because they had no right to investigate Whyte and then called anybody who dared speak out against Green a 'Timmy'.

It's fans like you who are at least partly responsible for the position our once great club finds itself in now.

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01 Sep 2013 10:32:24
Matt, i'm becoming more and more convinced that you're on the wind up. We should rally round Ally just because he was once a good player for us? By that reasoning John Greig should still be the manager! Get a grip mate. that's not loyalty its just daft. Of course he's open to criticism. As are you. If you want to post stuff that no-one will disagree with go email yourself. I don't think you quite get the point of a forum. Or else you are on the wind up.

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31 Aug 2013 18:00:25
Great to see the team is playing well and winning well!

As it should be from "the famous Glasgow rangers"

I just hope the fans don't forget we are still in the middle of a major protest at this dysfunctional board!

We still DEMAND answers!

SONS OF STRUTH DEMAND THE TRUTH,

on FB check it out and follow the links

RR

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Don't overplay the power of the people. Our situation will be sorted out in the financial circles.
billyb

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Craig here

Ive sent off email asking why barred but no reply so far

Can any Eds help and explain why barred

SONS OF STRUTH DELIVERING THE TRUTH {Ed001's Note - barred from what?}

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@ Craig banned means somebody is offended by what's being posted on the page you could be banned for three days or FB will shut the page completely

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Think you made an error with this mate
As it should be from "the famous Glasgow rangers"
it should read As it should be from "the famous THE Glasgow rangers"
. I believe that's the name of the club.

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Im not barred off fb I am banned from here and twitter {Ed001's Note - it would suggest there is an issue our end, as your IP has not been banned too mate. We are working on creating profiles for everyone, that will give you a place to show which team you support and gain badges based on posting or winning comps we are intending to run. I am wondering if something has interfered during the changes.}

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I saw the pathetic leaflet yesterday.
All old nonsense. What this bunch of jokers at sons of struth have forgot is we are now listed on the a. i. m at accounts and details will be published soon and things will be more transparent. This is not because of sons of struth, it's because of the regulations we must adhere too.
Please stop your pathetic plight, you are paranoid and deluded

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31 Aug 2013 17:28:55
Well fellow gers fans we need to keep up the pressure and spread the news on FB.

THE SONS OF STRUTH on FB is great everybody get on there and follow, follow.

The club is running scared because when it goes on FB they can't control who sees what and where, worldwide of course spreads the news get the fans to spread the word!

We still DEMAND ANSWERS about the missing millions and true ownership with NO second charges on any of the properties, and we still haven't had any answers about the IPO cash and a complete breakdown? Mather states Deloitte will be finished soon not bad considering they have been at the stadium since the first week in July, mind you there will be plenty of paperwork to go through?

Mather and Stockbridge the end is nigh!

The supporters have Sussed both of you out and you will be exposed for your blatant greed and mismanagement of our great club!

Keep DEMANDING THE TRUTH! Especially on FB and SCRIBD


SONS OF STRUTH DEMAND THE TRUTH!

RR

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The supporters step up and make themselves heard, and bang on cue mather is ready with his bucket of cold water. It's the removal of this corrupt board that we want, and to be replaced by some good honest men. Men who love this club, and are not out to fill their pockets. It's the straight and narrow road that we follow follow.

Keep up the good work RR, and remember tae take a breather!

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31 Aug 2013 17:32:35
Ally must see his position as manager being safe as Davie Weir ain't' got it either!

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31 Aug 2013 15:39:18
If Dave King wishes to and wants to invest in Rangers then he will do so, and leave all others in his wake.

I hope this encourages like minded Rangers entrepreneurs who wish the best for the club to come forward.

We have been waiting a long time for it.

Matt Crozier

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And what makes you think anyone would invest in the business in it's current form? Between the costs at the moment and the rumoured repair bills for work to the stadium that's a lot of money.

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31 Aug 2013 17:57:30
Mr King is having to pay over �30 million to South African tax authorities or spend time in jail so I can't see him splashing all that much into Rangers.

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31 Aug 2013 22:00:06
@2 think u should keep up to date with the news m8 before posting such silly things, dave king has settlrd with the authorities and wants to reinvest in rangers, he will and at some point he will be the main man! at ibrox, as he should have been many years ago,
At last some hope
Tommyblue

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Dave king is the last thing our club needs

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31 Aug 2013 14:56:40
What's the point of using up 1 of our trialists to play a goalkeeper today? Ally you are terrible.

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Cause u can play all signings after today that's why.
Inverbear

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Maybe scott gallacher will be away on loan today?

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Yeah 2-nil up after 17 minutes. Ally really is clueless! person
GCUK

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The only 2 trialists he could play are bell and clark. obviously giving bell some game time.

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He can only field bell and Clark today mate daly and law have used thier game time and the others cannot play until next september

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None of the other trialists can play today so you crawl back under your laptop instead of having a go at the manager with stupid posts. BT

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Only 4 nil up, cest terrible.

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Some of the posters do like to doom and gloom - are they really supporters or fish wives from the other side making mischief?

Well done again Ally superb.

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31 Aug 2013 22:24:09
What a seriously silly and nasy post, the embargo ends tonight, sillychops, are u really so illinformed or just a sad keyboard warrior,
Tommyblue, ps, in cse u don't get it the players will not be triallists when they are registerd,

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31 Aug 2013 11:23:41
just read Dave King has settled with south africcan tax authoritys, also that the fraud charge was dropped, mr king paid 45 mill, I here, he has stated that figure will have no bearing at all on his ability to invest heavily in Rangers, now before anyone starts shouting or posting nonsense about being a member of last board or connected in some way to our downfall he actually handed SDM a lot of cash to help our club, 20mil I believe, I for one would be ecstatic if Mr King were to return, over the moon, and anyone who doesn't feel the same are wrong, he has the brains and cash to take us through this, hopefully with one or two others, IE McColl, Prior, Murray and allistair Johnston, all men I believe we would welcome to Ibrox again, God let Dave King return, before its too late
Tommyblue

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Better the devil you bears know, and a castlemilk boy not a Yorkshire muppet. I still think fan ownerships the way forward but you haven't got a hope in hell of organising it. HH joe

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I agree with you, but don t say people are 'wrong' just because their opinion differs from yours. It is all about opinions unless you like to dictate to people, and they are weak enough not to protest. xx

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31 Aug 2013 12:31:54
i agree 100 per cent long live the king bri blue

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So let's see if I get this right. king settles to pay 45m that he denied owing all along, the authorities conveniently drop fraud charges and gers want this kind of person to link up the other key shareholder who's been done for fraud? Will you ever learn.

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31 Aug 2013 17:59:35
Tommy you really are well off the mark here.

Where did you get your information from?

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@4 agree with your post m8 respect to king for past monies but is he the kind of guy gers need right now. just another spiv looking to get a bite out of the main assets fire sale if we still own them that is! #fedupwithelotofthem

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@4
How many supporters of clubs come on here and take the moral high ground? I would be sure there are a high number of fans who openly flaunt the benefits system in our country- while hypocritically slamming others. They will see it as victimless crime of course.

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I would like to see King back at Ibrox. No matter what you think of hinge has never been one to take money out of the club and there isn't many people who have wanted to invest in the club recently. He is a Rangers supporter and that's what everyone has been crying out for on the board

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#7. so your ok with fraudsters taking over your club and claiming whatever cash they can con out of supporters because those same supporters are playing the benefit system? What about those that don't claim benefit or are you suggesting anybody that tries to get away with a rail ticket etc have no right to question these spivs intentions. exactly the attitude and unquestioning, blind and completely irresponsible belief in the Rangers man mentality that got your club into liquidation in the first place! MB

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I don't know why dave king is being called a spiv looking for a quick buck the guy is rangers through and through and most rangers supporters know that he lost 20mill the last time he invested so he is definetly not looking for a quick buck

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30 Aug 2013 23:42:14
Big Craig protestor#2:

Somebody said you where banned from FB is this true? And if so why? Could you update us on here.

Now that the KRAY twins have alleged overall control when do you think they will pop there heads above the parapet?

If they can't see what is happening to our club and are investing in shares that tells us a different story than the one they are portraying. They should get a grip if they have the alleged overall power! Or is this a smokescreen, things need to change and for the better, all personnel in the executive team have blood on their hands and if the KRAYS are supposed to be in charge why are they allowing this "robbery" to continue

The word is spreading fast and FB is up and running with new updates on SONS OF STRUTH keep posting and follow the links

RR

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