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24 May 2016 15:03:23
Ed 001 who do you think has the better manager/ head coach and has the better chance of moving forward Rangers or Celtic? And what is your opionon on warburton do you rate him?

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{Ed001's Note - I have to be honest, I really do not rate Rodgers, so I can't see how Warburton can be any worse. Rodgers will play players completely out of position, buy badly, ruin any defensive solidity, play boring football, will not train the players hard enough so they are unfit and will happily blame the players for any issues, as he did with Sterling very publicly leading to the initial rift.

As for Warburton, he is still new to the game as a head coach, this is the first time he has had real responsibility for building a team, so it will be now that he can be judged. So far he has met his targets. It is next year, if things don't start well, that we will find out how good he actually is.}


1.) 24 May 2016 19:14:17
But, but ed001, he has promised to play 'the Celtic way'. Suarez reckons he is one of the best in Europe, but then again why haven't one of the best clubs in Europe taken him?

{Ed001's Note - if he can learn from his mistakes at Liverpool (there were certainly plenty of them) then he might become a good manager. Not sure what the Celtic Way is. Not sure any team really has a way. This is not the Samurai we are talking about.}


2.) 24 May 2016 19:49:44
Don't hold back edd:) I agree that warburton is still learning his trade. Next season will tell all but the right players appear to be coming in so here's hoping he gets the job done. I'm surprised the other lot didn't go for stubbs tbh.

{Ed001's Note - I am not surprised, Rodgers is very good at talking the talk and selling himself. He talked his way into a job at Liverpool he was nowhere near ready for. Now he is telling all and sundry he is responsible for Luis Suarez, even though he never bought him, but apparently he made him famous, rather than the handball in a minor tournament no one had heard of called the World Cup. According to Rodgers though, it was all him who created Suarez.}


3.) 24 May 2016 20:29:22
Since I was a kid I have always had a soft spot for Liverpool and watch a decent amount of their games.

Therefore, I feel I am well placed to comment on Rodgers' time at Liverpool. Obviously it is a matter of opinions but I disagree with Ed on his assessment of Rodgers.

For starters how can you say he plays boring football when we scored over 100 league goals the season we nearly won it? Correct me if I am wrong but I think that is the most we have scored since 1895-96.That being said, I do agree that his system made us vulnerable at the back.

If he was as bad as you are making out, how did he nearly win us the league and come closer than any of our previous managers? I know he did not do great this season but he lost Suarez and Sturridge was out for the majority of the season. From what I remember we were supposed to get Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal but he did not want to come and the transfer committee forced Balotelli on to him instead.

I also disagree with you about player fitness and him not training them hard enough. The work rate of his teams is immense and that was how we managed to successfully play such a high tempo pressing game, high up the pitch. Also if he was as bad as you are making out, then I doubt you would have one of the world's best players (Suarez) saying that he is the best coach he has ever worked with. Not only that he got the best out of Sturridge and developed Sterling into the player he is today.

You are also blaming him for buying badly in the transfer market, which is a bit unfair considering how our transfer committee work. Basically, the manager tells them he needs a Left Back for example. The committee then make a list of possible signings and the manager has to chose one from the list or do without.

With regards to Sterling, I have heard conflicting stories about the Sterling saga before he went to Man City.

{Ed001's Note - you say us about Liverpool, but then have no idea how it works. Scored 100 goals in one season, what about his other seasons when he played the style he wanted to? He was in charge of the transfer committee, he picked the signings, so losing a player or two is no excuse, he should have bought better replacements. You can disagree, but the players themselves were unfit, just ask Klopp who had to deal with a succession of soft tissue injuries caused by trying to get them fit. Also really don't care what a player says publicly, they are morons. I don't care what 'stories' you have heard about Sterling, I am telling you the initial rift was caused by Rodgers and Aidy **** Ward stepped in to take advantage. By the way, please do not try to tell me how the committee works when you haven't a clue, as you were so wrong about its working that it shows you don't know.}


4.) 25 May 2016 08:45:20
You say I have no idea how it works but yet I am basing my opinion on what came directly from Rodgers' mouth. WHen he was on Sky Sports Sunday morning program he discussed the transfer committee at great length.

You are right that he had the final say but his choice was to pick one from a pool of players the committee had identified or not to have anyone. I know if I was a manager and the season was about to start and I did not have a striker then I would chose one of the strikers on offer even though I didn't want them because it is better than not having anyone.

Next you mention his other seasons in charge in relation to the style of play being boring. However, in his first season Liverpool scored 71 goals in the league (4th best and nearly 2 goals per game) . IN his third season, I admit it was poo but if you look at the facts we had just lost Suarez and Sturridge was out for nearly the whole season. Balotelli was not suited to high pressing game so he had to adapt and if I recall correctly Sterling ended up being our main striker for much of that season and we had to make sure we were solid as we did not have a reliable goal threat.

You are right that there has been a lot of hamstring injuries under Klopp but that does not mean that the players were unfit under Rodgers and as I already pointed out if they were unfit they could not have played the high pressing game that they did under Rodgers. Going back to Klopp, we know that he works the players harder and makes them do even more running (this is evident based on the increased running distance by the players during matches) all of this puts extra strain on the muscles which could be the reason we are seeing more of these injuries.

With regards to Luis Suarez's comments, I think it is really harsh that you call him a moron, just because he contradicts what you are saying. It is evident that you have an axe to grind with Mr Rodgers and some of your reasons may be justified but it is clear to me that some of the reasons are not justified.

{Ed001's Note - actually he was given the choice to identify players himself but chose not to. So that is just nonsense from his mouth to excuse his own failings. Every club works that way, do you think Shanks and Paisley picked the players they signed out of thin air or were they recommended to them by Geoff Twentyman? The fact that Rodgers got the choices wrong is all down to him and the fact that he could never be bothered to get off the sunbed long enough to go and watch potential signings.

Facts my arse, we had plenty of strikers that he refused to play. Strikers he chose to sign. So any lack of performances is down to his failings. Yet again. His style of play was crap, just like Bobby M at Everton and LVG at Man Utd, all sideways passing and possession. Rodgers chose to play Sterling up front, against Sterling's wishes, rather than give any of the strikers he had signed a go up front. So whose fault is it that we had no main striker? One man - Rodgers.

Rodgers did not play a high press, if that is all you have to say, you are wrong and this is pointless as you clearly have no idea about the game or what a high press is.

Oh so you think a guy that bit 3 players and racially abused another player is intelligent? Shows what your thinking is like. It ius nothing to do with his comments disagreeing and everything to do with the fact he is not very bright. Nice guy, despite the idiotic incidents, but a very unintelligent one outside of footballing terms.

Nothing is clear to you because you are ignorant of the facts and just go on tabloid crap, end of convo, you are wrong.}


5.) 25 May 2016 09:02:00
I should have added that one of football's most respected fitness guru's (Raymond Verheijen) has criticised Klopp's training methods and stated that his: "training methods fail to take fatigue into account, pushing the players past their limits and into the red zone. Once they're in that red zone, an injury is inevitable. " - So this is likely the reason we are seeing all the injuries and not because of Rodgers as you have claimed.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha says it all that you think he is anything other than a self-publicist selling his method. And yes I know him well and his method. The red zone crap is a myth as has been proven many times. It is a lack of entering the red zone that causes the injuries. Perhaps if people stopped listening to this kind of bull, we might get past all the niggles. Leicester City had the lowest injuries in the Prem last season by training harder than everyone else. A player for a rival team said to me, after they faced Leicester, "their warm up before the game was harder than our full training during the week". They were entering the red zone regularly, remind me how many injuries they picked up?}


 

 

 

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