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27 Oct 2016 11:27:39
Morning all! First post on here so thanks to everyone who keeps it interesting!
I've followed on here through the Whyte, Green and Ashley era and understood the pain and opinions of many.
I've logged on and constantly refreshed the page on transfer deadline days hoping snowy's wee dug has more info than sky sports news!
It's only now though that I feel the need to post.
Yes, we are not where we want to be in the league. Yes, we are hurting from our poor performances against Celtic. And yes, we are not clicking as a team right now. However, the hounding of Mark Warburton and the team isn't the answer.
For the last five years we've collectively cried out for a manager who signed youth and gave them a chance. We've demanded that we try and grow from the ground up and stop wasting money on over 30's and long named foreign imports. What we have to remember is that this takes time to build, improve and win with.
Although I feel the frustration of many of you at the results, changing the management team is isn't the answer. All we would be doing is going back 12 months.
We have a manager who never has embarrassed himself or the club in the media and has returned us to where we wanted to be. A manager who had us all excited in the summer by his signing criteria and style of play. A guy who has a proven record at Championship level and is trying to better our youth academy.
ask yourself, If it wasn't to be Warburton, who would be better? Who out there really would bring something better to the table? Names like Billy Davies and Alex McLeish get mentioned on here daily who haven't had a substantial position in football through our entire fall from grace.
Let's not forget, we're two points behind Aberdeen. A team that's supposed to be Celtics biggest challengers and frankly the biggest imposters in the league!
It's too early in the season to hit the panic button and we need to stand firm with what we have. I accept if things don't improve and our league position suffers then naturally questions need to be asked. But for now we need to stand with Mark Warburton and continue to fill Ibrox the way we have so far this season.
1.) 27 Oct 2016 12:24:54
great post snudge, there's too many people jumping the gun, I've been guilty of that myself, but results against leaser opposition every other week just isn't good enough, whos to blame? we've got a manager that fits everything we've been crying out for, but still doesn't know his first starting 11, he chops and changes his team every single week trying to find a formula to get 3 points, that's the worrying thing for me mate.
2.) 27 Oct 2016 12:34:19
Do you actually watch the team? The standard of football is appalling. All he has done is build a team full of average players. You said this is a manager who gives youth a chance and doesn't sign over 30's on big wages. Maybe you didn't notice but our 2 highest earners are both over 30. Of all the players he has bought how many would command a decent transfer fee? 10 games into the league and we have 4 wins that isn't progress. None of our players have shone and we don't have a player who is currently in the top 10 scorers in the league. Even Boyd has scored more goals than any of our players.
3.) 27 Oct 2016 12:34:57
Good post. I don't think it's about hitting the panic button because we already know we're not good enough to threaten Celtic and we've conditioned ourselves to accept the level we're at. Our players certainly didn't stand out last night as looking any better footballers than the St Johnstone ones and that's where we are as a team.
I applaud Warburton for changing his team selection and yeah, once on the park you can't blame him for some of the missed chances. I don't see the January window as any sort of saviour for us and we can only hope to get the best out of what we've got and finish a very distant 2nd. Spilled milk I know but you could see the guile of Kranjcar missed last night and that is one big blow for us.
4.) 27 Oct 2016 12:56:25
Kfraser
Where exactly do you see Warburton taking Rangers long term?
5.) 27 Oct 2016 13:37:26
I see warbs having rangers finishing second this season we are in a really bad place as to how we have started the season and yet we are only 2 points behind the sheep (who we should have beat) and its early in the season all these kneejerk reactions are way over the top and made by people who can't accept how far we have to go to get to the level of celtic.
I don't blame you guys its a hard pill to swallow but to try get change at management level is unbelievably stupid and not in the best intrests of this fine institution.
we need to support the hat and get right behind our players.
6.) 27 Oct 2016 13:37:44
Biffo, I was referring to the majority of the squad being young and I'm sure you'd agree every team needs some form of experience. What is your expectations for the season? Do you think we should be challenging Celtic? It's what we all want but in reality we're not there yet. I really believe second is completely achievable.
Would agree with Colin McDonald however that he needs to find his first pick 11.
we need to be patient.
7.) 27 Oct 2016 14:14:08
My first post also. Man some peolle need to take a long hard look at themselves. I've lived throgh the nine in a row years unprecedented success the murray millions et all. Weve had one of our greatest ever players completely exposed as a manager overseeing THE worst football ever seen at Ibrox to a guy who has breathed new life into a club that was ready for having its life support machine switched off. We played exciting forward thi nking football last year. We signed players during the summer that many of us were excited about. Now 10 games into a new season against better quality footballers we are a point of second place and folk want the manager sacked and players to be driven out of Ibrox . How many of you go to work and are wat he'd and held to account by ove 40 thousand people every week. It is completely true we are not playing well atm do you think the players and management don't know that or aren't trying. Football is a game of skill with a sprinkling of luck and what binds the components together is confidence. Villifying and critising unjustly does not breed confidence in anybody. Either get behind the team for the rest of the season and see where we end up or take up howli g at the moon which is more suited to the intelle t of some of the idiotic posters on here. We are about dignity respect and winning with honour so come on the teddy bears let's get about the rest of this league we are much better than where we are.
8.) 27 Oct 2016 14:19:15
Snudge
It's not even about challenging them but currently they are going to beat us 4 times in the league at maybe twice in the cups. Not saying we should be able to compete with them however we are a million miles away from them. There isn't 1 player in our squad that would even make their bench and players like Scot Allen who they don't want and Ryan Christie who hardly plays would walk into our team. Our team is full of average players and 4 wins out of 10 after having the 2nd biggest budget in the league is shocking. No player has shone this season and even the much maligned Kris Boyd has scored more goals in the league than any of our players.
9.) 27 Oct 2016 14:27:23
Time is something managers don't get these days. But I genuinely believe we have to give mark time as it will come good.
10.) 27 Oct 2016 14:28:12
Totally agree with James Stirling. If we had have won games at Ibrox instead of drawing we would have been a clear second in league. So can't be that bad. We need to start winning games more convincingly and all will become well. Have faith fellow Bears but to dump MW would be a huge mistake Give the man a chance at least to end of season. If he doesn't deliver fair enough. Keep supporting the club we all love but have a little bit of patience.
11.) 27 Oct 2016 14:36:24
Biffo
I see a decent 2nd place and a bit of European football the next couple of years. Murray Park might produce but I have my doubts and I'm not a fan of McParland and trawling the lower English leagues for bargains. Maybe he should hop on a plane for a cup of tea with Kranjcar's dad one day and have a look in Croatia. Anything further than Burnley will do.
12.) 27 Oct 2016 15:16:50
First of all great post snudge and from me anyway welcome to the rangers rumours/ banter page. I 100% think mark warburton is the correct manager for us now and the longterm! I will also state here and now that glasgow rangers WILL finish 2nd in the league this season, so i've laid my cards on the table and stand to be corrected otherwise! let's get a few things straight here, of course we're not playing well just now but to the must be either black or white, with nothing in between, impatient lot out there and there is a good few, although still in the minority, back the manager and the team to the hilt until the end of the season and see where we are and then take stock and judge everything. Is that too much to ask guys? Our great institution has been away in a very dark place and is in the process of being rebuilt from top to bottom. What would be achieved in changing the management team? NOWT! We have NO big money to spend and its now about rearing our own and scouting our own young talent. This is why i think, we've got the correct manager in place, the now, for which i've no doubt, we'll benefit in the future. PATIENCE MY FRIENDS, PATIENCE!
13.) 27 Oct 2016 15:58:17
Snudge your first post chimed with my own thoughts that's why i posted also. However unless you are mystic meg or have a crystal ball you can't say we won't beat the mhanky mob this season. What i'm saying is let's try and be positive its amazing how anyone can do somethi g when they think they can as opposed to someone who continually failswhen they think they can't do something. I fully support what mark warburton is trying to do ie buid from the foundations up. Our current crop of first team players aren't playing to their potential that's obvious so comparisons to their players is a bit pointless imo my friend. They are playing with confidence which is huge. We should get behind the players and make them feel it . I believe a couple of good wins and we will motor on. let's wait a little longer before we write our own players off after all they are Rangers. Ps apologies for spelling in my earlier post fat fingers and old man syndrome.
14.) 27 Oct 2016 16:02:46
Forsyth, if we had won our games at ibrox wed be second? But we haven't that's the point and tbh we've hardly looked like winning a game, lucky v motherwell last minute goal good 45 mins v Dundee n Inverness away then very lucky to hold on! In my opinion we've deserved to win one game this season and that's not good enough whatever way we look at it! Do any of you think with our playing budget the performances are anywhere near acceptable?
27 Oct 2016 10:49:33
Morning all! First time posting on here and credit to everyone who keeps it interesting!
I've followed on this website through the Whyte, Green and Ashley shambles and understood the pain and opinions of many fellow rangers fans.
I've also been glued on transfer deadline days, constantly refreshing the page to see if wee snowy's dug had any better info than sky sports news!
After all of the above, it's only now I feel strongly enough about posting regarding the hounding of Mark Warburton.
Yes, we're not where we want to be in the league. Yes, we were embarrassed by our two outings against Celtic. Yes, we're not clicking as a team.
27 Oct 2016 13:37:44
Biffo, I was referring to the majority of the squad being young and I'm sure you'd agree every team needs some form of experience. What is your expectations for the season? Do you think we should be challenging Celtic? It's what we all want but in reality we're not there yet. I really believe second is completely achievable.
Would agree with Colin McDonald however that he needs to find his first pick 11.
we need to be patient.