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24 Sep 2017 21:00:54
Just a matter of time.

When we go hunting for a new Manager soon, (Pedro hasn't got what it takes to be Rangers Class) . we should hire a panel of 3 to find the next Manager say Smith, Souness and an x player a Goughie or a Laudrup. to Judge who would be most suitable. even i'd it is (Billy i'm the greatest Manager)

so far behind this early its just a joke i'm sorry to say.

Is there anything in the rumour that King is trying to find a buyer or is it just more cannon fodder?

Get walter in in some capacity. Wonder what Smith thinks of Pedro lol not to much i think.

Punter

1.) 24 Sep 2017 21:12:46
We appointed a director of football. It'll be his job to find a manager.


2.) 25 Sep 2017 08:19:41
i have lost my patience with pedro tbh but i don't blame him for that shambles i watched on saturday which for me was no improvement on last seasons 5-1 defeat unfortunately you can't coach desire and hunger our players lacked that massively pedro didn't coach wes to ping the ball out the park 5 times our players clearly don't believe we can't beat and to me it looked like the mhanks still had another couple of gears in them lot of people saying to me we don't play dorrans in the right position well i'm sorry but as a diehard bluenose it shouldn't matter where he's played he shouldve been getting tore in once again we were happy to stand off brown and let him swagger about the park like he's a great player which he isn't its not hard to see the rest of their team feed off him if we had somebody who had the balls to get in his face the rest of that mob would start to panic am afraid for us to mount a challenge we may need to put ourselfs into debt again i don't know who we look to get in but i do know every great rangers team I've saw in my lifetime was built on a solid defence our defence is a shambles i'd like to see mccrorie now paired with bruno and cardoso dropped he's just danny wilson with a fancy name we never addressed the full back situation i'd like to see tav playing where candeias has bn playing as his forward play js miles better than his defending wallace has been poor for a couple of years now and from what I've saw of declan john he's in the same boat as tav more hard times in front of us bears i just hope the boards nxt managerial appointment is correct because unfortunately pedro has been another mistake


3.) 25 Sep 2017 10:34:06
Get mcinnes in, he has aberdeen a solid well organised outfit on a tiny budget. Played 7 won 5 drew 2 lost 0. Comfortable second again 2 points off celtic. He would gives the dig we need. He knows us, he knows our game. Its a no brainer. Bring shinnie mclean with him, get walker moult. He has got aberdeen to two cup finals, finished 2nd in the league for the last what 3 seasons and is currently comfortable 2nd just now. Facts don't lie.


4.) 25 Sep 2017 13:10:37
Never wanted him personally but after this disaster he's a no brainer.


5.) 25 Sep 2017 13:35:03
I said at the start of the season we would end up sacking this guy and be left with these numpties. Only ones I would keep is Morelos. The more I see of Tommy Wright tells me he has to be given the job. The evidence is there he can get more out of MOH than Pedro.


6.) 25 Sep 2017 15:54:04
it is early doors lads, but am a bit concerned

I reckon mcinnes will lead sheep to 2nd again which is not good enough for us

I've always believed signings make or break a manager and I reckon the money spent on pena and herrera who just don't look the part at all will put pedro under pressure

I like the guys passion but can't see him lasting on current form


7.) 25 Sep 2017 22:40:33
Part-timers. Get behind the team, we are a good 5 years behind Celtic.


8.) 26 Sep 2017 08:38:46
Michael o neil


9.) 26 Sep 2017 14:55:01
another manager will make us go backwards we need to stand by the man and follow his plan and yes maybe not all of his signings are brilliant but Morelos looks a player and Candias looks a proper player aswell.
bruno is class and cardosso is one that will develope here into a much much better defender.
for me we had a third choice lb and a youth boy playing at cb and if we had a fully fit squad we may have made it more difficult for them u never know.

but all this sack the manager rubbish is awfully stupid and does nothing for the teams mentality.

we need another two years befre we can compete with celtic so stop blaming the manager that bought a lot of players with little money to spend.
if everyone would also please stop bringing up how much any of our players cost especially penna as if u think u are gonny get a sinclaire for 2 million or 2.5 then your as daft as all the manky mob think u are


10.) 26 Sep 2017 16:27:59
How do people physically calculate how many years it will take us to compete? They have more money, they are light years ahead with playing squad and youth development. They do not have to buy players for at least 3 to 4 years if they only want to focus on Scotlands trophies. I can see them spend 10mil on a player in the coming years if they want too. I can't fathom how anyone can calculate we are X years away from competing. We may never compete again. We have spent 10mil and we are sitting 8 points behind and 6th in the league.


11.) 26 Sep 2017 21:20:35
Big cliff

Most sensible post on here. It amuses me when people say we are a specific amount of years behind Celtic. There is no way you can say that. It's just utter rubbish and I don't know why people keep saying it


12.) 26 Sep 2017 21:52:50
Peds 11. The manager has been a disaster from the start and his behaviour once again on Saturday getting involved with one of their players at half time is yet another embarrassing episode and severely lacking in class as a Rangers manager.


13.) 27 Sep 2017 01:07:26
Where is the Bruno is class came from peds11. He has been caught ball watching and struggling for pace against average players most games. Maybe the reason he seems good is because he's a Portugal international with good player helping him. With diddies around him he's getting shown up for what he is! Old and well past it


14.) 27 Sep 2017 19:19:16
wish for a new manager all you want, it ain't happening. ped will be given the time as he should. mcinnes ia a diddy too, didn't take him long to slag off rangers last season when he wasnt offered the job.


15.) 26 Sep 2017 08:38:34
If all you supporters can't see improvement from last year then open your eyes .
We are still work in progress, too many expect instant success .
Bringing in eleven new players and expecting them to gel so guickly is ridiculous, give them till at least half a season before you start your moans .


16.) 28 Sep 2017 12:28:55
Well I see no improvement and haven't done since he came. It's getting worse.


 

 

11 Feb 2017 08:59:09
We now need someone that can secure 2nd spot and work wonders with the squad we are left.

Dont think Walter is in the frame.

Hope it isn't Billy Davis.

Thoughts peeps any ideas Prob Big Alex.

Punter

1.) 11 Feb 2017 10:08:17
Id take bug eck and alex rae until the end of the season see how they get on, if anything they will have the team figgting for everything


2.) 11 Feb 2017 10:40:28
Alex rae? Get a grip. ask Walter Smith to get us second. then maybe big eck or i'd have a shot in the dark with alan pardew


3.) 11 Feb 2017 10:50:59
Eck would stabilise the defence stop the dangerous passing at the back and make us difficult to beat but to be honest I would prefer next seasons proposed manager to take over that way he can work with current squad and identify players to stay or go and maybe save some players gers career for example big kiernan can defend if he cuts out the stupid passing with the right coach he may prove to be a talent.


4.) 11 Feb 2017 11:14:58
Whens the last time big eck managed fs


5.) 11 Feb 2017 11:27:34
Alex rae as assistant Chinabairn


6.) 11 Feb 2017 11:58:18
Good call Chinabairn, Pardee could be the type of Manager we need


7.) 11 Feb 2017 12:02:32
@punter - big eck or alex rae? **** me we'd be as well padlocking the gates the now! WS? No thanks. We've now reaped what we've sowed.


8.) 11 Feb 2017 12:12:38
McLeish done very well with Genk who were 4th bottom in their league when he took over, he got them a 5th top finish with the same underachieving players, look what he did with Rangers and Scotland? , be good to have until end of the season but i don't know who would be best to take over full time


9.) 11 Feb 2017 12:49:55
I'd be looking at Pardew, or at a push Sean Dyche.


10.) 11 Feb 2017 13:06:34
Or maybe pochitinio or anceloti can I visit your planet or do I need some sort of visa lol 😁


11.) 11 Feb 2017 13:16:59
ahahahhaha sean dyche, cheers for the laugh scottish87


12.) 11 Feb 2017 13:34:48
Can someone please tell me why they don't want Billy Davies considerred? What has he done that is so bad? Surely his private life is just that and as long as he is good at football coaching. Thoughts please.


13.) 11 Feb 2017 12:30:13
Mibi Alex Rae might no b the best choice as a number 2 but he would bring the passion and the belief back good shout


14.) 11 Feb 2017 14:05:08
I agree with you dunbar blue! Billy davies is a better coach than any of them! This wee guy is a terrific coach and is made of steel! Forget his private life, within reason of course!


15.) 11 Feb 2017 14:17:18
Hope not if he was to get the job I would not be back remember fellow bears let's not condemn mw before getting the facts. mr king has a lot to answer for he was The one quoting figures about how much money he would inject


16.) 11 Feb 2017 14:18:44
Billy Davies has failed every time he tried to get promotion from the Championship where is his track record of success. Likewise Pardew as he has failed at every club he has been at. I cannot understand the fascination with either.


17.) 11 Feb 2017 16:01:07
Think billy davies won playoffs with derby county! Guy has a great track record in english championship! Which is arguably the most competitive league in europe!


18.) 11 Feb 2017 17:09:17
It's an outside shout but I would love someone like Tim Sherwood. He currently has a directors role at Swindon. And I imagine he would have clauses that allow him to take up managers roles with little compensation. I am pretty uninspired by the names being mentioned so far. Whoever it ends up being, he needs a lot more backing in the transfer windows.


19.) 11 Feb 2017 18:45:55
Dunbar Blue, you say forget Davies private life but we are Rangers, not them in the East End! His friendship with Tommy Sheridan is well documented. Sheridan is a vile individual and unfortunately for Davies mud sticks. If you sleep with dogs you get fleas. We have enough issues with our credibility given the bunch of scoundrels that has been associated with our club over the past five years!
There are plenty of quality managers that would take the Rangers job that would do a good job and that portray the appropriate image for a Club of our standing.


20.) 11 Feb 2017 18:46:48
Im up for billy davies being given a chance. at least till end of season Bears?
McLeish has had his chance. wee billy might b pals wi perma tanned tommy but he could be worth a punt. FDB long term could b great if billy don't cut it. We no wat mcleish is about. Different era.


21.) 11 Feb 2017 19:20:54
I guess we must come from different generations. I want a manager that warrants respect both on and off the park. Sorry but Davies is not that person.


22.) 11 Feb 2017 20:17:31
What has davies done to merit such moral outrage TOMUSA? I mean that sincerely. i have no time for Sheridans politics but i'm not aware of davies being accused of any nefarious criminal activity. unless u can tell me otherwise mate?


23.) 11 Feb 2017 20:45:13
Tony pulis would be a good choice but to be honest do u think any of the names mentioned would want to come to Ibrox with the mess we are in a chairman who has promised so much but failed to deliver.


24.) 11 Feb 2017 21:18:19
Mols, you say billy davies has failed as a championship manager in england? Do you know anything what davies has achieved? Let me educate you on billy davies mate. He got derby county PROMOTED, YES PROMOTED from the championship to the premiership, while he was their manager! He took every team he managed to the play offs at the very least.

Preston and notts forest twice! Check it out for yourself! He holds the all time record in the championship in history, of having WON the most manager of the month awards! His record up until his last few months with forest in his 2nd spell there, has been superb, with all his championship clubs!

He had a disagreement with the forest board over promised transfers! Hope that answers the billy davies haters, of the wee man's ability when folk don't know what they're clearly talking about!


25.) 12 Feb 2017 02:34:48
4everinroyalblue, I suggest that you read excerpts from Sheridan's perjury trial or the various Press Reports at that time. Davies would simply destroy the little credibility that we have left if he was given the job when there are numerous other candidates with significantly better credentials out there.


26.) 12 Feb 2017 17:16:52
Nic

You are correct he did get promotion with Derby but was sacked very quickly in his premiership career. Ultimately he has failled to make the grade at the top level and has track record of falling out with his various boards


27.) 12 Feb 2017 17:19:05
David Wagner. no harm in asking.


28.) 12 Feb 2017 22:31:50
Super I am well aware of his record but must admit I had forgotten that he had got Derby promoted to the premiership. It has to be said he is considered not good enough to manage in the premiership as he has worked there for half a season. I am not aware of his private life so have nothing to say on this.

The fact that he has got to the play offs so often with a great chance of promotion only to fail when it really matters, I consider to be consistent failure

We are allowed to disagree on this. I mean the man no harm and my opinion like yours really means nothing but not for me


29.) 13 Feb 2017 00:26:35
What planet are u on Mols. Pardew took west ham up. took newcastle into Europe for the 1st time in 20 years. took Palace and West Ham to FA Cuo finals. and West Ham were seconds away. denied by a Gerrard wonder goal. of beating European champions at the time. in fact 5 years ago when at newcastle he won LMA Manager of the year award. Top award in England for a manager. he'd find the SPL a piece of pish


30.) 13 Feb 2017 10:42:11
Yes Tom the media will be rubbing their hands if that wee sleaze ball gets the job


 

 

 

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12 Oct 2017 21:16:34
im embarrassed to say PC is Rangers Manager.
The Board of directors must be wondering how they can get him out. This guy is a joke now with his recent comments.

Punter

1.) 12 Oct 2017 22:26:28
He’s embarrassing himself with the nonsense he is coming out with i can’t listen to his interviews now I think tommy wright was correct he is paranoid! only last season he acted the smart arse and told Kilmarnock his team the day before and also had a go at naming the Aberdeen team


2.) 12 Oct 2017 22:32:12
Why is he a joke?


3.) 12 Oct 2017 22:41:30
How is he a joke he compared Morton to st Johnstone on how they set up and play he never ment in terms of the levels so that again was blown out of context and when told about there players reactions to the statement he said he don't care and why should he.


4.) 13 Oct 2017 07:12:04
Let’s get behind PC, I can see what he’s trying to do, the way he wants us to play and let’s be honest people bang on about the money he spent. what would 8mil buy you in the English championship? Not even 1 half decent player. It’s a work in progress on a budget that is literally scraping the barrel in this day and age and people are wanting instant success? How many managers could we have got that could have landed us a European champion? I think he’s doing ok under the circumstances it’s a challenge for him and he will give it his all that I am certain of


5.) 13 Oct 2017 07:59:00
Just out of curiosity Matt RFC what tactics is it that PC is using and what way do you think he is getting us to play?


6.) 13 Oct 2017 08:49:56
Matt_rfc

How many managers could have lost to a team who finished 4th in Luxembourg?


7.) 13 Oct 2017 09:05:49
How many managers lost to a team from Gibraltar mmmmmmm not many me thinks!


8.) 13 Oct 2017 09:35:45
Good deflection tactics calamero! Never mind your own team got humped by Luxembourgs 4th best team, let's bring up a game where our team actually qualified for the next round and went on to the CL group stages! But whatever let's u sleep better at nite I guess! 🙈🙈😂😂😂


9.) 13 Oct 2017 10:07:17
We are not in the english champ! We are in the spl and struggling!


10.) 13 Oct 2017 10:42:15
IF YOU can't SUPPORT PEDRO AND THE TEAM

please hand back your season tickets there millions of rangers fans who support the managers the club the players waiting for seats to support them not slag or slate them every minute or every day

Give it a rest either get behind pedro and the team or get tae ^^^^ everyones a critic everyones an expert if you think you can do better and are better qualified send your cv to rangers fc edminston drve ibrox stadium glasgow


11.) 13 Oct 2017 10:50:32
Well said Kaymer at last a true ger 🤝


12.) 13 Oct 2017 14:41:24
Give Pedro time. His English is better than Jock Wallace’s. Compare how they got on. Instant success would be great, but you need hard work to get to the top over a long period. We are in transition. We still have a lot of players to get rid off and new ones to come in. Such as: Wallace, Wilson, Holt, Krancjar, Halliday, Windass, Miller, Rossiter ) (too injury prone) Hodson, from the first team squad. There 9 players that just aren’t good enough for the future. Pedro’s new players - 50% doing well, the other 50% will come good. Remember Hatley etc took a long time before they came good. There is no point investing in a new manager and not giving him time. If by March we are not second and out of cups then fine, up to then, give him 100%, nothing less.


13.) 13 Oct 2017 15:49:53
You forgot to mention pena herrera cardoso.


14.) 13 Oct 2017 17:03:31
Calamero

Can you remind me if the manager who lost to the team from Gibraltar won the tie overall? Or did his team go out of the tournament?


15.) 13 Oct 2017 17:04:17
Briggsboy

The great Jock Wallace won a few trebles though


16.) 14 Oct 2017 00:31:47
How can you be worried about the Board and the manager when the chairman gets his lawyer to tell the court he has no money? So from now on in the funds need to come from 3 bears. So when the soft loans need paying back in november who pays for it? Not king. Admin 2 is closer than Rangers supporters think. Believe me, not pleasent but true


17.) 14 Oct 2017 00:39:00
I do agree some of the gaffers comments at interviews are embarrassing to the club and sometimes his 4 minute answers to a simple question can be extremely boring to listen to? He has to learn he can't keep this up at interviews and I am genuinely behind him and hope it works our for him! Although I have my doubts 🇬🇧


18.) 14 Oct 2017 00:48:42
well said kaymer i honestly thought most rangers fans where smarter than this .

all they are doing is buying into propaganda of the newspapers.

all the papers do is slate the man when in fact he has made us stronger better defensively better in attack and we have been very unlucky in a couple of games.

hibs we where cheated

thistle game should have went our way but we just couldn't put it in the net (happens to the very best of teams)
hearts we where lackluster but still deserved three points from that game.

then the old firm i though first half was the best I've seen us play in one since 2012.

we are gettintg better the manager has made an impact and i wish we could get this he isn't scottish so what does he know atitude to feck.

stop listening to the phone in and stop listening to the crap that comes out of the daily record and such as it is pure and utter p*sh


 

 

09 Feb 2017 20:38:23
DK has his head buried in the south African Sand.
Part time chairman isn't hacking it.

We need a leader a true leader Rangers are rudderless i feel at the moment.
We need passion, a souness type figure head . someone to respect even a Souness repeat of sorts what he did in the 80.s
Would like to see him involved with the club again with his mate Kennedy.

Punter

1.) 10 Feb 2017 10:46:00
i wonder why we don't hear from Dave King or any of the other board members? it doesn't fill me with confidence not hearing from them, i think they should be more open with their fans like they said they would


 

 

02 Feb 2017 06:30:26
3rd is looking realistic now.
if we do finish 3rd, time to move to the next level manager wise, if possible!! Billy Davis isn't the answer either.
King is guilty also as much as the So called manger, Team is all over the place back to basics please.

Punter

1.) 02 Feb 2017 07:01:52
We are now looking for a "short-term" fix to stop Celtic

Will any new manager have "time" after his appointment to sign players in the summer 2017 window or must he wait to sign players in the summer of 2018 - (if he is sacked in spring 2019 then Celtic will have racked up another 2 titles (8?)

Time is running - out of course Aberdeen or Hearts might stop them for us?


2.) 02 Feb 2017 06:51:49
Which manager is the answer then punter?


3.) 02 Feb 2017 07:53:10
Frank de boer get him now


4.) 02 Feb 2017 08:30:45
Supercooper

Well it certainly isn't your God Warburton who again showed how inept he is when faced with a big game away from home. Same players picked making the same mistakes, defence in total disarray, midfield chucking it and the strikers getting starved of service. That team yet again lost the plot in the second half and it could easily have been 5 or 6. We made a very average team who were slaughtered on Sunday look good. Still never mind I'm sure you still back him and think he is moving forward and the team is progressing.


5.) 02 Feb 2017 08:36:26
Supercooper are u still defending the indefensible?


6.) 02 Feb 2017 15:35:02
Bigblue ayr, i was at the game last night and i honestly admit it was one of the worst performances i've witnessed, in 42 years of going to watch rangers mate! That performance is NOT on! Warburton has at the very least 3 big major decisions to make, for our game against ross county on saturday!

He MUST drop tav, halliday and kiernan! I've been on here saying halliday gets an easy ride compared to others, many times! If warburton remains stubborn and doesn't make these big decisions then he will lose his job, probably at the end of the season!

IMHO if danny wilson is he has to start, hodson has to start, the DM is a tough one, as who to play there instead of halliday! Warburton should maybe look at changing the system to sort that position out! Maybe a 3-5-2 so we have less space there, thus more protection for the centre halfs!


 

 

29 Jan 2017 11:41:17
If we miss out on 2nd spot in the league who should get the blame?

DK
MW
DK & MW
Players
DK,MW & PLayers.

im worried as it is a possibility.

Punter

1.) 29 Jan 2017 12:04:05
2nd or 3rd doesn't make a big diff


2.) 29 Jan 2017 12:08:53
For me, no one. We assembled our team 18months ago and got in a relatively inexperienced manager. 6 months ago, we added even more players to the squad, most of which didn't work out. King did not promise £30m for players. He said the club needs as much as £30m investment (not all of which will be on the playing squad), some of which will come from him. To date, king and his pals have invested over £12m so far. No other way to get money into a corporate structure except through loans or a rights issue which was on hold. We just got promoted to spl where Celtic have went on a record breaking run. What can we possibly do to make them drop points against the likes of St johnstone or hamilton etc? We've had draws that once we improve will become wins. They've been on a run of form that hopefully won't repeat itself again. Had we been up against last seasons Celtic and some of our draws this season were wins, the point gap would be much much smaller. Aye, we make mistakes and Celtic are making none, but this season is a fluke season. We will improve and are improving.


3.) 29 Jan 2017 14:33:34
Yes true words, i don't see them repeating this season and we surely will improve for next, second place finish then we will need, NEED a better standard of player, otherwise qualifying for europe was for nothing in the first place, i predict a good season next season and surely it will happen


4.) 29 Jan 2017 17:10:26
Punter, For me it is quite simple. Warburton and Weir.

DK (and others) has made funds available although not just for players.

Players can't be blamed for not being gpood enough. Most are just journeymen.

Warburton has had a lot more than any other manager (outwith them) and has wasted over £2 mil on Garner and MOH.
He picks the team and sets the system, continues to stick by a few empty jerseys meaning we are men down before we start.
Big Weir? Well you would think he could organise a defence but obviously not so what is he getting paid to do? .

Blame will lie at the door of W and W


5.) 29 Jan 2017 16:50:54
Need to get real about things people will mention the wage budget but this is a squad of players who have only been bonding for about a year and 2nd dpot would be a amazing finish considering how well aberdeen and hearts have been of late. can't be delusional like some fans who are thinking 2nd place is unacceptable.

There is a lot of talent in our squad we just need that run of great performaces to get the confidence up dor the start of next season, then bring in a few players (2 strikers preferably a big poacher a winger and a centre half) and 2nd should more or less be guaranteed next season


6.) 29 Jan 2017 18:16:09
Papabear how can you say the season is a fluke Celtic have not fluked one game this season and have you stopped to think for one second that Celtic are adding to there squad Eboue for 2.8 million and will continue to add quality rather than quantity .

So surely Celtic are improving as a team as well, and unless the signing policy at rangers changes to actually building a team instead of plugging the gaps with 2nd rate players who can't get a game at there clubs then this season will be on repeat for next season and seasons to come.


7.) 29 Jan 2017 19:24:51
Dth100, I get what u are saying and understand your frustration. The reason why I think it's a fluke season is this is Celtic's best ever start since Lisbon lions (their best ever team) . Compare to Celtic of last season and it's a huge difference for them. They've made 3 notable changes, a new manager, Sinclair and dembele. Remember that player they signed for £3m odd, bangura was it? Didn't work out. It just so happened this season it did work out. I don't think Celtic have fluked any games as they've been the better team for most of them, but their season as a whole is a fluke, a one off. I doubt it'll be repeated again next season and I doubt they'll make any further signings that'll have the same impact on them as Sinclair has had.


 

 

10 Jan 2017 21:35:59
Thought of the day.

Would it have been a bad thing if Ashley had taken control of Rangers.

Hes got deeper pockets then DK.

Ashley would have put money where is mouth is i think.

Don't shoot me guys i'm just thinking out loud.

if DK doesn't have the money or wish to put more in then i say go.
i still think he's trying to recoup his £20m he lost.

Punter

1.) 10 Jan 2017 21:43:18
Ashley has received stick for years at at Newcastle for not forking out the money he has &C as for DK he won't spend big until fat mike is out the picture cause it's too big a leap of faith, once he's gone I think we will see money finally being put in


2.) 10 Jan 2017 21:45:27
DK is probably £30-35m in total down on his Rangers dealings over the years as we stand today. There is currently no realistic opportunity to recover what he has spent. Please tell me how we will make any money from a club with no revenue stream and no one to buy his shares. The share price has been 27p for the last 18 months


3.) 10 Jan 2017 21:43:13
How is he going to recoup his 20 million we are skint. Ask newcastle has ashley put his money were is mouth is. Only this season has he spent money. Are ask the poor people who work for sports direct if ashleys is a good boss


4.) 10 Jan 2017 23:14:28
Recoup it from where exactly Punter? Apart from season ticket sales there is no access to a major revenue stream. No European football means very little sponsorship money, no larger tv or prize money and we have no merchandising money to speak of. let's say Wallace and Garner are on 10K a week (just for talking sake) those 2 players are costing over 1 million accross 52 week contract. Now add up the rest of the first team, development squad, youth teams, coaches, physios, kit men, groundsmen, scouts, dinnerladies, security, travel costs, players accomodation etc. Not to mention running costs of Ibrox and Murray Park and Matchday expenses. So yes I don't like where we are financially compared to Celtic at the min but it grates on me when people say King etc haven't spent any money in the club. There's more to investing in the club and getting it back on its feet than transfer fees.


5.) 11 Jan 2017 01:33:12
Parky. add up what king "ect" has put in. "Ect" more than king you'll find. The question was about king v ashley though. King aquired rangers and also crippled the club by his actions.

I'd actually like anyone to pick apart every piece of account data that is actually available. Add soft loans, season tickets and the wee cut of any merch, fan donations etc. Line that up against posted losses and the difference may be your figure. I might be wrong but has DK ever said exactly what he personally has spent since taking over till now? He hasn't in my mind but I may of missed it. There are hoards of fans screaming for his head for not spending a penny and to my eyes he hasn't and hasn't replied or publicly defended himself with a counter quote or any real sum of money.

Do some extensive reading on how he aquired rangers. How he encouraged starvation of ticket sales and encouraged the company to be delisted, sorry for a nomad to be brought in. His failed alleged search for a nomad was nothing more than smoke and mirrors. For a guy that is an international business man you and many others have been sold down the river by him doing "ooh a didnae know that wiz gonnae happen" routine.
Wake up


6.) 11 Jan 2017 01:47:08
Mols
30-35m over the years down? He was ment to of been a 20m investor back in the day. Do you honestly think he made nothing? I'd say he made a stack through loophole accountancy. Or when things started to go wrong murray kept quiet and threw him under a 20m pound bus? Take your pick.


7.) 11 Jan 2017 06:20:36
I'm not 100% about this but I don't remember Ashley ever being interested in actually owning Rangers.


8.) 11 Jan 2017 06:55:10
Parky, the last two agm's he's tried to bring in new share issues but failed, that could be a way of getting some of the £20m back.


For a chairman that's absent 90% of the time he's failed to live up in my book.
He just told us what we all wanted to hear when he was taking over.
Smokin mirrors.

As for Ashley we will never know what could have been. Ashley aligned himself with some dead beats that was his mistake ie green etc


9.) 11 Jan 2017 08:06:53
Rglen8

I like you have no conclusive proof for my opinions, but have read extensively on al aspects of Rangers ownership since Craig Whyte set the pressed the button for destruction.

I do honestly think that DK has made nothing from Rangers to recover his original investment and his more recent investments.

As you put it I think he was thrown under the £20m bus. As I have noted on this pages a number of times where is the evidence of his mechanism for return on investment through accountancy loophole or otherwise

The same cannot be said about CG or MA who have creamed of between them millions from a Rangers over the last 4 years. There is definite proof of that


10.) 11 Jan 2017 08:09:29
Ashley doesn't invest in teams, he loans them money. or that is what I'm lead to believe. he hasn' actually invested money into Newcastle, instead he loans it and gets it back, eventually. I'm sure newcastle are in 100m+ debt to him.


11.) 11 Jan 2017 08:12:55
Ask a Newcastle fan - remember they are/ were milking the fans.

Otherwise who are you Punter? Ashley or his agent?


12.) 11 Jan 2017 08:18:52
Are you Derek lambias? Mike Ashley is scum, lowest of the low. Even if he didn't have money he would still be a class a ****. Do we really want a man like that? Remember how he screwed us with the 5 loans?


13.) 11 Jan 2017 08:28:44
Onlyshowaround

I agree completely All of the clubs in England are in huge debt but are slowly clawing it back through the sky deal. Celtic are the only exception as through good management, timing and a slice of luck are probably one of the only clubs who are essentially debt free.


14.) 11 Jan 2017 08:33:42
Ashley is a clever businessman who sails close to the wind on most of his deals. Just look at the shoddy way he treats his employees at Sports Direct. He saw an opportunity when the 'alleged' crooks were running the show at Rangers and he took it. The contracts put in place before he lost control look dubious at best but by the looks of things it will take most of the six years remaining on the notice period before he is sorted out in Court.

There are other questions to be asked, in particular regarding his 'dual control' over Newcastle and Rangers. I have to ask the question, why has the English FA not taken action or is it simply that they are hoping Newcastle return immediately to the EPL and their problem goes away.

None of this as pact of the current shambles has anything to do with King albeit that I do not believe a word of what he says in terms of transfer funding.

We are where we are and the most frustrating thing for me remains, that the man that initially conned the support has pretty much walked away without any action taken against him. David Murray, in cahoots with Bank of Scotland, knew exactly what was being done when the Club was handed over to Craig Whyte who just happened to be another client of the Bank. Even a half intelligent Risk Manager would have seen that Whyte did not have the wherewithal to acquire Rangers never mind a captain of Industry and the expert Bankers within the BoS. For me it was all a scam from day one! Of course the Establishment in Scotland will neatly brush any wrong doings under the carpet just as they have done in the past with other football scandals!


15.) 11 Jan 2017 08:56:14
If Ashley was interested in making Rangers a force again why did he and his mates on the board at the time agree to the kit deal if the success of the club was important to him would it not have been better to have a contract which at least put some money back into it instead of taking every penny he could get how can King get his money back since we were relegated to the bottom tier of the league we have lost money year on year so instead of taking any money out he is part of a board that are putting money in just to keep the lights on no individual or group will invest in us with the fat man strangling the life out of the club this will continue for the six years that are remaining on these fat man contracts so it pains me to admit it but I can't see how we can stop Celtic getting to ten in a row or even eleven twelve or more we just have not got the money to compete unless we are hugely lucky in transfers or we can pick up top class young players and turn them into top class players we have full houses every home game our only source of income and that is not enough to break even we are paying a fortune to fight in the courts to try and turn these Ashley contracts into a deal that at least gives the club some money I was at shareholders meeting and they tried to get a share issue passed where they didn't have to offer shares to all existing shareholders so if it had been passed Ashley and that pair from Greenock who backed the old board and Ashley would have not been offered shares the diluting their grip on the club but that didn't get enough votes so we are stuck in this mess at least till next years AGM then I hope it gets passed


16.) 11 Jan 2017 09:42:43
Thinkaboutit

Didn't get enough votes due to a so called club legend not bothering to vote


17.) 11 Jan 2017 09:53:15
that's not even a debate!
king has done nothing but try to get us out of a crippling contract with Ashley and Ashley is bleeding us dry .

one trying to save us and one trying to end us hmmmmm I wonder which one i'd rather have in charge!

"IDIOTS"


18.) 11 Jan 2017 09:56:21
Stewie25
Yes that was a strange decision only he can explain that it's two years in a row the motion has been defeated last time by less that 1% but it pains me that some fans still see Ashley as a possible saviour when he is up there with the people who have taken the lions share out of our club at the old firm game as we come in from opposite end I had to pass the Sports Direct shop (£1 a year rent yes he has our interests at heart) and still fans were in it buying kit why don't they just pop £50 in an envelope and send it to The Fat Man care of Newcastle FC that's who gets the profit from the sale not us


19.) 11 Jan 2017 13:16:19
Perhaps McCoist is still on Ashley's payroll! You never know, Ally seems to like money more than anything except the women!


20.) 11 Jan 2017 15:26:52
Ranger and cee.

im just a concerned Rangers fan nothing more. plus i like to think-out loud lol


21.) 11 Jan 2017 18:54:41
Punter if you believe that King could take 20 million out if a share issue then you are clueless. Also, the board have successfully passed resolutions at the last 2 AGMs for a share issue. What they have failed twice at however, is a resolution to have a share issue offered first of all exclusively to new investors. Thus trying to exclude the likes of Ashley and Easdale and so dilute their shareholdings in the company and so their influence when it comes to voting rights.
We know exactly what Ashely would be like as an owner. Look at Newcastle Utd. No investment, but loans that he is owed back to the tune of close to 130m. St. JAMES Park is festooned with Sports Direct advertising that he doesn't pay the going rate for. Look at how he treats his workers at his companies. Rangers is more than Football Players. There are people there on normal wages with everyday mortgages and bills to pay. Do you think they would like this man as their boss? Henis a business man who is out for himself. He is not an idiot so your comment of 'he aligned himself with dead beats' is a rediculous one. He knows exactly what he is doing every step of the way with his dealings with our club and none of it has Rangers best interests at heart.


22.) 11 Jan 2017 19:40:51
Ok rglen8. In May '15 King through his Company New Oasis Asset Ltd loaned the club £1.5m. In December '15 a further £3m loan facilty was made available to the club by New Oasis of which £2.2 was drawn down. The remaining £0.8 credit remained available to the club. that's an interest free loan of £4.5m that King has made available to the club.
Also on March '15 Douglas Park, John Bennet and Paul Murray made a loan totalling £0.75m between them available. In December '15 they made a further loan of £1.7m between them available to the club. that's £2.45m between the 3 of them.
Also in March '15 George Letham, George Taylor, Andrew Ross, Barry Scott and Scott Murdoch made a loan totalling £1.5m between them available.
In December '15 the same 5 men made a loan totalling £2.375 between them available to the club. that's £3.875m between 5 men.
So 8 men have loaned the club a total of £6.325m between them. King has loaned the club £4.5m himself. So you are right, the 8 'etc' have loaned slightly more than the single King.


23.) 11 Jan 2017 22:21:38
Parky no need to get personnel ie clueless comment. i never said i was in the know . just thinking out loud maybe this maybe that.

You seem to be very pro King!

Perhaps if he talked to the fans more then he would get more support.
DK can't tell us everything, but least engage with us.
Ie tell us how it is with regards to the current transfer window tell us the cold hard truth.


24.) 11 Jan 2017 23:08:15
Punter what I meant was that it was a clueless comment to suggest that our Chairman would take money out of any share issue for his own pocket. I am pro King and Murray and the rest in respect of the people who were in control of our club before. People who did take money out the club by various different methods. I acknowledge that King has made some dubious comments, like front load investing, mentioning £30m and his childrens inheritance. However he and the other investors/ directors have made millions available to the club to try and get us back on an even keel. It annoys me when people only equate transfer kitty as investment in the club (i'm not saying you are one of those people) and say that King etc have not spent any money. Well they have. He may not be the long term answer for our club but he is better than what we have had in the recent past. Sorry for any offence.


25.) 11 Jan 2017 22:02:05
Ashley in charge with lambias and the sleezdales, give me strength. Where were you two years ago punter? When I read your post I thought surely that's a wind up and you must be a celtic fan doing a bit of fishing. Anyway that's my bite😩


26.) 12 Jan 2017 08:31:48
Onlyshowaround you've hit the nail in the head mate! that's exactly what mike ashley does! I've got a good few pals who are newcastle to the core and they tell me exactly the same as you put it! Maybe with the exception of this season with rafa as manager now! My geordie pals despise him just like we despise him! Newcastle as i've stated on here many times, are my favourite english club and he will never put me off liking newcastle utd or the geordie fans! In saying i only have and ever will support ONE football club, THE FAMOUS GLASGOW RANGERS! My focus will always be on them and hope we/ dave king can find a way of getting rid of mike ashley for good! Then get back to selling and making millions from our kit sales, with the money going directly into the club!


 

 

 

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Utter single fish Weiss is only on the radar cause he's in Scotland with is nations team . dead story.

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If it was the case about going bust why bring in a new manager, surely you would have kept going with Murty in charge until season end.

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£80 = £4m approx 50,000 season tickets. That would pay for the lost revenue from sports direct, roughly.

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Ped need to hit the ground and go. I don't think he's the man for rangers but let's see what happens.

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11 Jan 2017 22:21:38
Parky no need to get personnel ie clueless comment. i never said i was in the know . just thinking out loud maybe this maybe that.

You seem to be very pro King!

Perhaps if he talked to the fans more then he would get more support.
DK can't tell us everything, but least engage with us.
Ie tell us how it is with regards to the current transfer window tell us the cold hard truth.

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Ranger and cee.

im just a concerned Rangers fan nothing more. plus i like to think-out loud lol

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11 Jan 2017 06:55:10
Parky, the last two agm's he's tried to bring in new share issues but failed, that could be a way of getting some of the £20m back.


For a chairman that's absent 90% of the time he's failed to live up in my book.
He just told us what we all wanted to hear when he was taking over.
Smokin mirrors.

As for Ashley we will never know what could have been. Ashley aligned himself with some dead beats that was his mistake ie green etc

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