Rangers Debates 3

26 Mar 2026 13:57:19
It makes me smirk sometimes when i read fans saying i wouldn't pay this or that for a player or just pay it he is worth it. I go on holiday and really like a certain hotel, i don't worry what the owners spend on entertainment to keep us all happy or the wholesale cost of the food he buys to feed us. i worry about the cost to me and if that nice hotel will be there for years to come to keep me happy.

Why do we all get so obsessed with the costs of players and when did we become head scouts or agents.

Surely we have to trust the owners of our club to keep us entertained and more importantly to ensure our club is here for our kids and grand children.

26 Mar 2026 14:30:19
Where is this hotel, and how many stars does it have, and is the bevy reasonably priced?

26 Mar 2026 14:31:33
The part about worrying about the future of the club is the main reason. U, answer your own questions. We nearly didn't exist and just had to do major cost cutting under PC, so flok are right to be cautious about wasting money.

26 Mar 2026 14:52:45
Absolutely bang on Kaiser.

26 Mar 2026 16:10:12
Kaiser, I agree if that was the reason that everyone was using. But they want to spend £20M on Moore, happy to now spend £8M on Djiga but not the £6M on Olsen. So, yes, be worried about the club existing, but the prices they are willing to pay show that isn't why they do it.

26 Mar 2026 16:13:52
No, we don't. How many posters have just posted about how much we have to spend on transfers? There are better qualified people paid to manage our club than the average supporter.

26 Mar 2026 16:30:54
Gees, it's because we have opinions on it, and you talking about hotels is just not the same thing. I think it's funny you trying to say it is.

Bang on the button, Kaiser.

26 Mar 2026 16:39:16
Presumably, Angus, it's not the same ones concerned about the future of the club (or hotel) that want to splash the cash. And, if we are to spend crazy money, then need to make sure it's on the right ones. The OP answered his Q saying we worry about having a club (or hotel) in the future.

26 Mar 2026 17:36:30
Trying not to smirk at the odd original post.

26 Mar 2026 17:37:30
Most teams' fans won't, or maybe not as much as us, because of where we have been. It's also good discussion.

26 Mar 2026 21:12:48
Kaiser, I agree, but the point is that the number worried about paying money for players isn't because they are worried about a second liquidation but because they don't like a player. I now hope that our current owners aren't as emotionally involved, so will take decisions based mainly on the good of the club.

However, to say fans are worried about spending money because we could go bust is wrong, as if they thought it would win us the league they would spend whatever it takes.

26 Mar 2026 22:13:22
Totally disagree, Angus. Many fans are concerned about the spending, not because of the extreme fear of liquidation, but about seeing the club financially secure because they realise the need to be sustainable and not to spend beyond our means after years and years of financial mismanagement. I think most understand our budget restraints better than you give credit for, if you think it's just if they like a player or not.

Even if we like Moore, eg, we know we can't spend majority of our budget, or whatever it takes, on one player. And on the other hand, if Skovs' proposed fee and wages were not so high he wouldn't be judged as badly. It's mostly been: is he doing anything to justify the fee. Same with Chermiti and even Naderi to an extent, who we massively overpaid for.

26 Mar 2026 22:53:52
Kaiser, to start with, I am not painting every fan with the same brush. But read the posts on here, and if you can honestly say that the willingness to spend more cash is about the fear of liquidation, then fine; however I don't see that evidence in the main body of posts. As an example, £16M new share issue, and the questions are mainly around how we spend that on transfers. Yes, there are questions on FFP, but only as a way to find out if we can spend it all on transfers.



I do however see that the new owners are unlikely to take us anywhere near another liquidation event. However that may only be as they have a large investment to lose; and that they will still have little emotional involvement in the team to the extent fans have.

But 2012 still sits heavily with me, and whilst I want to win every title I know we should not be spending sums being mentioned for players if only so we, as fans, can guarantee it never happens again.

27 Mar 2026 00:30:43
I think, from now on, we should be spending less than we bring in.

If we bring in £40m in sales this summer, what's wrong with spending £30-35m in incomings?

Eventually, in a few years, we'll be bringing in 2-3 £10-15-20m us every season. That's not a pipe dream.

That's perfectly achievable.

We could realistically sell.

Raskin 12m, sadly that's his buy out.

Dio £10m.

Manny 20m.

This summer.

Next summer.

Rommens 20m plus.

Chucky 15m plus.

Chermiti £15-20m.

And the cycle goes on.

27 Mar 2026 07:46:04
Makes sense to me, StevieG. That's the 1st I've heard about Raskin's buy out tho. Bit disappointing if it is, but still good profit considering Martin wanted rid.

27 Mar 2026 08:28:47
Geesa, you might really like the hotel, but if it goes out of business and disappears, you'll simply choose another.
Rangers till we die, so have more of a vested interest.
You probably just made a poor analogy to your point, and I can understand where you're coming from, but we all have a vested interest in our club whether we're right or wrong with our opinions and values of players etc.

27 Mar 2026 13:38:35
The point I was trying to make, though, is that whilst we are all customers, we don't really have a say in what the owners will spend money on. They will sit and analyse the budget, revenue, expenditure etc and come up with a plan. The one thing people forget is there is a ceiling to how much revenue Rangers can bring in, simply because of our demographics and belonging to one of the crapiest football associations there is.

We might well have 20M to spend on a player, but who, worth 20M, wants to play in Scotland unless it's their swansong and wanting their final nest egg.

27 Mar 2026 19:02:15
Geesa, you are right. Hotel guests don't see themselves as the lifeblood of the building once they've checked out; they're just happy with the service. But as fans, we feel like the soul of the club, often expecting a say in every penny spent.

It's not a knock on that passion, but while we see ourselves as rightful stakeholders, modern clubs often just see that devotion as a reliable business commodity to keep the business/club running.

26 Mar 2026 11:58:25
Can I ask has anyone seen florida bear post recently? Maybe he has and I've missed it.
Hope your well florida 💙.

26 Mar 2026 13:40:57
He was on yesterday, mate.

27 Mar 2026 12:25:44
Cool cheers thanks, mate.

26 Mar 2026 13:57:42
All good BB4 I hope you are too 🫡

25 Mar 2026 22:32:42
I hope that the club consider offering Sune Smith-Neilsen the Academy Director role.

Yes it did not work out for him as sporting director at FC København but he is the best at the Academy role i have ever seen in Scandinavia.

His record at FC København is unbelievable.

26 Mar 2026 09:07:00
Aphelion, Reading Koppen has been moved up and the technical director they had before he arrived is now working under him at Copenhagen.

26 Mar 2026 09:23:54
Yes, they had a major reshuffling due to the shocking performance this season.

Sune was removed as sporting director, but his record as academy director is unblemished, and certainly is far superior to almost anyone else within our achievable target range.

26 Mar 2026 09:36:04
Aphelion, I didn't even know any of that, mate, cheers, like I don't know anything about Sune, was it his job Koppen took over? But we do need a top man for our academy.

26 Mar 2026 09:46:35
No Koppen has taken the technical director Role.
Sune was in the sporting director role.
His role is currently being filled in the interim by the CEO of FC København

25 Mar 2026 20:33:58
Great statement from Andrew.

Apologies for not getting the job title correct in regards to Stig Inge Bjørnebye.

I did not think job title would have so much impact on posters.

Roles and responsibilities remain the same as now therefore completely encompassing the previous sporting director role.

25 Mar 2026 21:13:33
Aphe lets them contribute their positivity.

25 Mar 2026 21:33:39
True, John. The more you give, the more they use against you.

25 Mar 2026 23:02:08
Titles and job descriptions matter zero.

It only matters that people are good at what they're supposed to be doing.

26 Mar 2026 08:18:28
I don't care what they call anyone's roles, Aphe. I just want the right people at the club and getting us moving in the right direction.

26 Mar 2026 08:24:36
Bbj, Stevie, I agree. It appears Stig receiving a different title is being used as a rod to best me and John with.

26 Mar 2026 08:48:09
Aphe, rise about it, mate. Ayrshire more competent to talk about this, but remember, the Forum, despite what people say, has an unwritten "pecking order." By proving a user wrong, especially publicly, a person might feel they can raise their own status within that community while making the other person look less credible.

From my limited experience and training on the topic, I know the way to deal with that is if you are wrong just to 'own it' as you often do. The last thing you want to do is get defensive and engage in a long, back-and-forth argument. This is the goal of the poster, i.e. to get you "riled up".

So, if you do that, they win and the 'error' you made isn't even that important to them. It is the chance to get that reaction.

What you said at the time was right, otherwise you wouldn't have said it. Things change all the time in any business, so it is impossible to get every fact, minor or otherwise, right.

The vast majority of posters on this forum appreciate the insight both you and John bring to the site. I would hate either of you to stop doing what you do because some posters choose to try to get a negative reaction from you. So, best to ignore or just say they are right, but it was what you were told at the time.

26 Mar 2026 09:21:04
Angus, I agree with every word you have said.

I realize now that it appears defensive, but it was not the intention.

I was just explaining to BBJ and Stevie why I had put that in the post.

26 Mar 2026 09:46:31
Aphe, I know and appreciate that and in most cases you are giving an explanation. It is human nature to respond to people as that is how our parents brought us up to behave politely. However, in some cases, best not to and leave them to sit unhappy that you haven't.

You, and John, provide the info to let people know; so not even worth getting mildly irritated about. As I say, often just need to follow my own advice now. 😉

26 Mar 2026 11:25:10
"The more you give, the more they use against you." That's your statement, ASA, which is very strange. You may be personal friends with Andrew, I don't know, but it was just a strange comment. ✌️ ✌️ ✌️

26 Mar 2026 13:14:48
Nothing strange about it at all, he's right. Read Angus's post; he touches on it. You may learn something.

26 Mar 2026 15:47:51
Yateley Alphe is stating a fact. I just post much less re players we r interested in.

26 Mar 2026 17:18:42
Is the fact that that was a decent post, Angus, have anything to do with you not talking about football. 🤫😉😇

26 Mar 2026 22:30:34
Fork normally, I can stay detached about most things when it's not directly about the club or football, but I do feel compelled to speak up when Aphe, or anyone, is getting unnecessary hassle. I know how tough it is not to react to that, especially since I can see he takes it personally, just as I would.

I've tried to offer advice on this, even if I often fail to follow it myself. I've seen this kind of behavior far too many times in my life to just stand by and not say anything and will continue to do so.

Decent posters like us can't let this be the norm on here. I think it is different to fall out about a topic but not to pick on the person.

Picking on a poster just to belittle them or make yourself feel better is wrong, in my opinion. btw if you knew me IRL you would see I am generally a decent bloke but with a strong opinion on most things. Can talk about lots of topics rationally and decently, but this medium sometimes makes posts not as rational as they are meant to be.

Long winded but I guess that is just me.

27 Mar 2026 05:13:55
You're spot on, bud. Was pulling your leg. 👍

27 Mar 2026 07:46:48
Fork, I kind of knew that and don't really know why I went on a rant. 🤷 As I say, just me.

26 Mar 2026 09:50:27
I certainly cannot argue with any of that my friend

27 Mar 2026 19:40:00
Don't worry, Aphe, there are a few of us who will point out when it is happening. A bit like panto season, we will just shout "he's behind you". 😂

27 Mar 2026 21:24:26
I appreciate the support from your good self, Fork and John. I really do.

25 Mar 2026 18:35:22
Very sad statement from Kevin keegan, god bless him and his family.

25 Mar 2026 18:50:21
What's happened, John?

25 Mar 2026 19:14:16
Three cheers, I'm very sorry. Post online says he has a few days to live. Attributed to Newcastle FC. Appears someone arse hacked their account.



Apologies to all.

25 Mar 2026 19:20:32
Well, that's good news then.

25 Mar 2026 19:22:52
Three Cheers, it 100% is. A great man.

25 Mar 2026 19:45:09
A great player as well.

25 Mar 2026 20:29:21
Three Cheers, he sure was.

25 Mar 2026 21:05:24
See his partner John Toshak got dementia, sad news. They were a great strike force.

25 Mar 2026 21:14:21
Shanksi, they certainly were. Wonder what they would be worth now.

25 Mar 2026 21:54:44
John, start at £75M each. Had pleasure of meeting him when in San Sebastian when he was Real Socieadad manager, lovely man.

26 Mar 2026 07:41:11
You wonder about the mentality of some people. Why would you want to post something like that online?

Absolute cretins.

26 Mar 2026 08:53:30
Athole, I thought exactly the same, and whatever the reason, these are just truly vile individuals. I often think it is their attempt to get that 15 minutes of fame Andy Warhol spoke about, as there is nothing in their lives for them to be happy about.

It was good that friends and family spoke out very quickly to debunk the story.

25 Mar 2026 18:18:37
What a fantastic statement by Andrew cavanah It is refreshing to know that we have a chairman who gets the club and what it means to so many. Hopefully this is jthe beginning of a very successful and exciting journey he is about to take us on

25 Mar 2026 14:54:58
7 games to go. Fear no foe. We are going to win this league troops 🫡

25 Mar 2026 15:46:07
Go to see you posting again, FB.

25 Mar 2026 19:51:27
Good to see you, FB.
Feels like ages ago, last seen you on.

25 Mar 2026 21:58:26
Hope you are well, Florida.