SPFL Posts 4

04 Nov 2025 15:12:03
We were beaten not by poor officiating nor was it due to corruption. We were beaten because we were second best all over the pitch.

We get barrel loads of decisions in favour of us every single season. We were awarded a penalty to equalise if memory serves me correctly. If there was corruption that would have not been given after var check.

We win matches by being better than our opponents not by looking for favours from referees.

04 Nov 2025 15:49:46
Asathor, All we are only looking for is fair play mate, Trusty was a red card all day long, why did he stay in the park? I would love you explaining that, what is your opinion on Ralston hit the deck and stopping a net bound goal with a part of his arm? shouldn't that have been a second yellow? My opinion, Rangers should have been reduced to ten yes, but Celtic should have been reduced to nine if the correct decisions were made, just the same when Rangers played Hearts and Celtic played Kilmarnock, correct decisions not being made cost Rangers a four point swing against Celtic that weekend, all I'm wanting is fair play because nobody is telling me it currently is, you think it is, I'm cool with that, but nothing you will say is changing my mind.

04 Nov 2025 15:49:47
Disagree Asa. It's happened too much to be just incompetence now. It's blatant cheating and it's happening before our eyes every times. The head of referees Willie Collum is not an impartial person and he hates our club. Numerous officials such as Clancy, Walsh, McDermid, Robertson, Francis Connor, Daniel McFarlane all openly make horrific decisions that have benefited Celtic in recent times.

72 games and counting since Celtic last had a player sent off in Scotland. They have had 4 players sent off in 21 games in Europe. We are refereed to a different standard my friend and I really hope as a club we take more action against the SFA 🫡.

04 Nov 2025 15:59:01
Second best with ten men though Asathor, massive part that keeps getting missed out, had many good periods in the second half with ten men.

04 Nov 2025 18:13:38
Celtic did start better but we created the best chance and if Chermiti scores that easily chance that game changes instantly.

04 Nov 2025 19:17:08
Can I just add in. Everyone is not mentioning Cornilous challengr on Kenny after he was on a yellow.

As much as I agree that I would be very much aggrieved if a Rangers player kick my goal keeper and never got sent off.

The fact remains 11v11 Celtic were 1-0 up and very much all over Rangers.

I that 1st half Rangers were just not in the game. Maybe look to your manger setting up a 352 basically and not playing with any wingers.

The managers tactics were all wrong.

So please let's look at the game from the start and how bad Rangers were set up and question your manger.

04 Nov 2025 19:35:08
Green peace that's just utter nonsense.

Rangers played the 2nd half with 10 v 11 and won it 1-0. It should have been 10 v 9 as both Trusty and Ralston should have saw Red. If Trusty had been sent off Rangers would have went on and beat youse. Maeda committed 8 fouls before he was cautioned. Persistent fouling then kicking Dio in the chest. All these decisions against Celtic consistently get brushed over same with the LC final last year more out the box than in. It's laughable that you lot can even come on here and spout this nonsense 🫡.

04 Nov 2025 21:31:04
Well, that's what you get for trying to be a decent football ma GP

thanks anyway for your input, some of us enjoy the football discussion,
my Celtic supporting pal told me much same today but added when Rangers equalised he thought we would win it in normal time, but like me, he thought we tired badly in extra time, thanks for your input.

05 Nov 2025 03:10:54
Florida Bear you are brushing over the 1st half performance of Rangers and the tactics of your manager. Now I'm certainly not disagreeing with you that Trusty should have walked, and I would have been aggrieved with Ralston staying on. But please acknowledge that your own player Cornelius shoukd have walked also so it would have been 9v9. Please don't hide behind the decisions for your manager setting Rangers up wrong. Rangers were terrible in that 1st half. Rangers upped their performance in the 2nd half and certainly had the better of it. The rest is all ifs, buts n maybes. I'm grown up enough to see things from neutral side.

Tomthumb thank you for your kindness.

05 Nov 2025 05:21:07
We were poor in the 1st half but still missed 3 gilt chances,

05 Nov 2025 07:26:39
Correct, Chermiti scores his easy chance that game changes instantly Watp.

05 Nov 2025 07:28:40
Cornelius could have walked for one tackle, trusty, Ralston should have walked, think your brushing over maeda who was also very lucky, remember the game finished 1-1 after 90mins It took extra time for youse to beat a 10 man supposedly poorly set up Rangers team🤔.

05 Nov 2025 09:07:19
Watp62 so you were happy with Rangers 1st half performance? You were happy with the way your manger set up with no wingers? Your happy your manger kept on Chemiti and took off Danilo?

I'm not disputing the fact Rangers played better in the 2nd half I've already said that. Tactical tweaks were made and Celtic went into their shell instead of going after Rangers. Rangers never looked like scoring in that 2nd half. Yes it took Rangers equaliser to breath life into Celtic 2nd half performance. But was to little to late to win it in 90 mins. Extra time Celtic upped their game and maybe Rangers tired, but only one team was winning that game in extra time.

All in all both fans can feel aggrieved about decisions for and against. Some fans more than others. I'm sure for Rangers fans every argument Celtic fans will have a counter argument and vise versa. Opposite fans are never really going to agree although I have done my best to see it from boths side and agreed with Rangers fans on the sending offs that never happened.

But I also have my own opinion on how the game panned out.

Anyway thanks for the debate it's been good. I'm away back into my box.

05 Nov 2025 10:33:29
Greenpeace and what happens if Chermiti scores the first easiest chance made in the game? would that change the flow of the first half? Rangers were better for many periods in the game in the second half with ten men.

05 Nov 2025 11:12:27
I posted earlier saying we were poor in the first half, our young manager will make mistakes but hopefully not as many as your ex Elite Manager.

06 Nov 2025 03:34:06
I think any team that Thelwell is identifying players for will be second best all over the pitch. What a signing Thelwell has been for any club up against Rangers.
THELWELL OUT!

04 Nov 2025 09:34:00
Seen Engels mouthing off again how everything is rosy and positive in the Celtic garden. I have said this before, they have a squad with a number of Scottish and Irish players who will give 100% for the Jersey. In comparison as Blue Floyd said well we have a squad full of over paid under achievers. I would also add imposters into that equation. Chermiti gestering to the crowd and missing gilt edged chances, Mioski strolling around without a care in the world, Digha looking like bambi on ice, Aarons terrified to pass it forward, Antman even more terrified than Aarons, the list goes on.

We are no longer in 4 competitions probably only one the Scottish cup. I would like to think we can send back Digha, Aarons and Moore in Jan i'd keep Meghoma and Cornelius as there is nobody else. Agree we should get Barron Curtis and Cameron in the team what has happened to Cameron is he injured.

04 Nov 2025 11:42:54
Not over till the fat person sings.

04 Nov 2025 13:40:06
Bt, we won't get good players because most people know how corrupt our officials are, the officials are terrified to award anything against Celtic as they know they and there families will be intimidated, bullied.

04 Nov 2025 14:03:58
Absolutely correct, fraser. It really is now beyond a joke.

04 Nov 2025 15:59:57
It is a joke Seeker and it needs sorted mate.

04 Nov 2025 18:51:28
Guys get a grip. The disallowed goal, albeit it was a pure fluke, could have stood on another day. Your penalty, and I'll keep saying it was soft but hey it gives Tavpen the opportunity to equalise which he did with aplomb. The barge on Hatate but this has been swept under the carpet.

Possible penalty. The Cornelius challenge. No Red there. Btw, re the Trusty incident. Butland was Mark free at the end. I respect your opinions but unlike recent derbys,
when you had our measure, you were second best all over the park.

05 Nov 2025 10:06:34
He threw his entire body to block the goal bound shot, it hit his arm just above ground level

that's a clear foul and a booking, u can't throw yourself to the floor and get away with handball anywhere else.

05 Nov 2025 23:00:16
Give me peace.

03 Nov 2025 20:32:19
Celtic have had 4 red cards in Europe and average 4.5 fouls per yellow card in the past 2 seasons when they are refereed by Uefa officials, which is very similar to most teams across the board give or take.
In Scotland they have one red card in the same time 72 games ago and average just under 12 fouls per yellow card a whopping 7.5 fouls more than any other spl team.


Make your own mind up if these stats are just unlucky for all other spl teams.

03 Nov 2025 21:38:17
There are so many other variables within your data set that mean nothing of value can be gained from your conclusion.

03 Nov 2025 21:49:26
Your statement has buzz words and waffle and mine has the facts.
What does having so many variables even mean? These are the figures from real life data and what has happened in reality.

03 Nov 2025 22:37:58
I'm not even sure there is one buzzword in my response?

04 Nov 2025 00:29:25
Variables and data set?
What have these got to do with Cold hard facts?
I have never heard a supporter once say other variables in a sentence be it online or in person and the same goes for data set.
Buzz words to me. Bzzzzzz.

04 Nov 2025 07:54:58
I must not be a supporter then - now I've been freed of that baggage, here's a more detailed response for you.

Small or Unbalanced Sample Sizes

European matches: Celtic play far fewer European games than domestic ones — often only a dozen or so per season.

Domestic matches: 72 matches is a much larger sample.

Comparing raw numbers between such uneven samples can distort conclusions.

Lack of Contextual Controls

Opponent style and quality: European opponents may play at a higher tempo and force more desperate or tactical fouls, leading to more cards.

Refereeing standards: UEFA officials are drawn from many countries and may apply the Laws of the Game differently.

Game state: Celtic might spend more time defending in Europe than domestically, naturally increasing the risk of cards.

Potential Bias or Misinterpretation

The conclusion implies Scottish referees are lenient toward Celtic, but without considering:

Whether Celtic commit different types of fouls domestically Vs in Europe

Whether they enjoy more possession (so commit fewer fouls in dangerous areas).

Whether SPL referees generally show fewer cards overall Vs European referees

Statistical Framing

"Fouls per yellow card" is an interesting metric but can be misleading:

It doesn't account for severity or location of fouls.

Some teams commit lots of harmless fouls but few cynical/tactical ones.

Using additional metrics might show different patterns.

Missing Longitudinal or Cross-Team Context

Is this pattern unique to Celtic, or do other dominant teams in smaller leagues (e. g. Ajax, Dinamo Zagreb) show the same split between domestic and European data?

A wider comparison would strengthen or weaken the implied argument about refereeing differences.

In summary:

The main weaknesses are sample imbalance, missing controls (context and comparisons), and potential overinterpretation of correlation as bias.

Or, you're not comparing apples with apples.

04 Nov 2025 09:03:13
Fantastic summary EHL, football is a game dictated by human factors so blank stats usually don't provide the best conclusions.

04 Nov 2025 14:15:39
Come on EHL, you can spout as much as you like, but how do you analyse and explain not one red card for them in 72 domestic games and yellow cards per number of fouls disproportionately high, when every other team is within an acceptable data range? If you drew up some sort of graph using each team's number of red and yellow cards to fouls, surely Celtic would be well outside of the normal parameters.

How do you explain such a disparity? I for one know the answer, as do many on here.

04 Nov 2025 15:21:31
I never said that you were not a supporter, i said i had never heard a supporter use those buzz words but thanks for that because now i have and i thank you.

It is pretty clear Seeker that Celtic are consistently allowed an average of 7.5 fouls more than any other SPL team (and these figures are consistent over the past 4 years) because of the all important missing longitudinal or cross-team context 🐝🐝 more buzzing than a buzz word bee hive. 😃

I am comparing apples with rotten to the core apples EHL and thanks for clearing this matter up and explaining it so eloquently for me it is much appreciated.

04 Nov 2025 16:01:22
Three Cheers you're spot on mate.

04 Nov 2025 16:24:35
It's shocking Three cheers 🫡.

04 Nov 2025 19:26:13
Was there not some sort of state pre VAR that Rangers were award way way more penalties than any other team?

Coincidence?
Corrupt?
Or just that Rangers are in the box more often than other teams.

States can be interpreted to how you want and for anyones owe agenda.

04 Nov 2025 21:40:10
Correct guys 👍
Greenpeace, how do you explain the Cerny incident when even I knew that if any part of the challenge is inside the box it must be given as a penalty? Now remember Messrs Connor and Muir are well known Celtic fans, not only that but also trained officials.

How can a statement like "carry on John, it was more outside than inside" be credible coming from a trained official who presumably knows the rules inside out? Please enlighten me.

05 Nov 2025 16:24:44
The silence is deafening 😁.

03 Nov 2025 14:36:07
I had a look over the other sides pages and to my dismay I have seen unfathomable things wrote about our manager wearing a poppy.

Now I speak as someone who is half German and someone who has a lot of pride and love for Germany.

Danny Röhl decision to wear a poppy should be commended. It is significant as many know it was not only British blood that soaked the soils of Flanders.

For a German in Britain to wear a poppy shows the utmost respect and decorum.
The Poppy serves as a reminder to us all the futility of battle and the expulsion of so much human life that we hope to never see again.

That side disgust me to the bottom of my stomach.

03 Nov 2025 16:03:35
Asa you are talking about a club that can't observe a minutes silence for those that gave everything for freedom.
A club who will have many supporters who lost parents and grandparents who served in ww2 who now disrupt remembrance day.
A club with no morals.
There are no winners in war.
I applaud any Rohl for wearing a poppy and showing respect for the fallen.

03 Nov 2025 16:14:55
Danny.

03 Nov 2025 19:07:45
Remember this is the same lot that couldn't pay respect to Evan Williams, putting up banners during the minutes applause for some COWARD.

04 Nov 2025 14:17:54
Well said Asa, their attitude to the poppy and all it stands for makes me sick.

03 Nov 2025 10:45:45
7 goals in 11 games for Mr Shankland of league leaders Hearts who was deemed not good enough for us🤔 ( he would have been a great squad player allowing money to go elsewhere? ) -HOWEVER so glad we pushed the boat out to get a Portuguese lump of wood who has scored once in 3 years - makes us glad to know that we have true football scouting knowledge at our helm?

Was there not a player who either signed or had trials for Dundee United in 70s who claimed he was related to a top superstar and the guy had all these false papers to boot? mmmmm?
Hopefully someone on here will remember that scenario as was all over papers in 70s or early 80s then - but I can't remember a name - come to my rescue please lads? 👍🤔.

03 Nov 2025 11:13:15
Was Jim McLean that signed him as well Blue- Floyd.

03 Nov 2025 11:27:00
Shankland should have been signed. I believe Martin said no to the move.
Dessers should have been kept.
Unfortunately, 25 goals a season wasn't good enough for some.

03 Nov 2025 11:01:02
Remember that mate, Walter Rojas from Argentina Blue-Floyd, last 80's, but you don't get capped with Portugal at all age groups and sold for 15m after scoring a handful of goals in not many games for Sporting Lisbon.

03 Nov 2025 11:40:35
Sorry, Late 80's, but just had a look it was 1991.

03 Nov 2025 11:45:39
The recruitment team carried out their analysis of Shankland, the finance Guys approved the move and the Head Coach rejected it.

That Head Coach is no longer here, so why on earth do we keep bringing it up?

99% of the posts around recruitment on this forum state that no DoF should be signing players without the Head Coach approval - which confuses me as this is the exact situation we have and the reason that we didn't sign Shankland, plus many others.

The issue with the recruitment was Martin, not our recruitment team or the processes that we use to identify players.

04 Nov 2025 14:20:46
Correct Mark, Shankland was a no brainer and Dessers should have stayed as well, though it seems he was forced out in the end.

01 Nov 2025 21:04:32
So st mirren in the final. Good win for them today.

02 Nov 2025 12:26:50
They play to their strengths, if we get to final then big Fernandez must be in with a shout of playing against them.