05 Dec 2025 20:49:13
So shankland not good enough but Murray is give me peace.

05 Dec 2025 22:29:20
Eh? Who you talking too?

06 Dec 2025 00:01:43
You talking too me,
that was in a rab de Niro voice by the way. 😛.

06 Dec 2025 07:28:33
He was good in the film Mask to be fair. Deserved an Oscar for playing Rocky Dennis.

06 Dec 2025 08:25:20
Eric Stolz played Rocky Dennis, DeNiro wasn't in it.

06 Dec 2025 14:15:19
😅😅😅 fork. "You're good you".

06 Dec 2025 14:16:04
Infact not sure you even grasped i was talking about simon murray 😅😅.

06 Dec 2025 15:31:50
Dont think he was talking de niro.
Think ginger nuts.

06 Dec 2025 16:55:14
My nuts are not ginger, shaven and not stirred I, ll have you know. Miss moneybobbies, that was in my Sean Connery accent.
Far too talented me.

06 Dec 2025 17:25:09
I didn't bud I'm a doofus😳🤣🤣👍.

06 Dec 2025 17:26:28
Shotas fault he confused me with deniro.

04 Dec 2025 17:08:02
With all the duds at Rangers - who's going to buy them? Who's going to make us money?

04 Dec 2025 16:58:22
Players like Antmann and Asgasrd will have decent profiles as internationalist and we should get our money back they're not suited to our league i'd also expect Rothwell to command a fee the same as miovsky so we won't make money but if selling thise 4 brings in around 8m that's imo not unattainable where we lose money us on guys like Chermiti and Fernandez.

04 Dec 2025 18:22:33
you are making the assumption we are looking to sell them. with a few injuries we are down to the bones just now so I suspect we will be looking to add to squad with 2-4 quality experienced players who give us what we don't have or to act as first choice where we have a younger player who needs the mentoring which I saw EHL mention in another thread to bring them on.

04 Dec 2025 19:26:56
We need to sell them, players who show absolutely no commitment should not wear our jersey, this they will be better with more experience around them is nonsense.
We need players who give their all, all of the time, not just when circumstances are better.


I, m ashamed watching some of these players, they are supposed to be professional sportsman, we can't and shouldn't make excuses for them.

04 Dec 2025 21:40:01
Angus we can't just add players we will need to get rid of some. What's the point keeping guys who won't make it.

04 Dec 2025 22:08:06
OWS I know we can't but I still feel some of the 8 we brought in permanently will come good. There is a squad of 25 named on another page where 4 of those are injured and 5 won't ever get a game. so we have a squad of 20 of whom 16 are fit including 3 GKs.

so we need to have more in that squad to cover the 5 (Matondo, Dowell etc) who won't get a game. it is short term until they go in summer.
I feel that is more realistic than trying to sell the 8 players we bought who I feel some may come good. My logic anyway.

05 Dec 2025 10:08:22
Angus what if anything, are you seeing in any those players to make you think they will come good? Seems like absolute blind hope mate. Not even 1 of them will cut it here.

05 Dec 2025 11:49:38
Boy Blue. I am not arguing they aren't performing here atm but that football professionals see a player there. Swedish manager sees a player in Aasgaard, Portugal u21 sees a player in Chermiti. supposedly the scouting brief from Koppens time were looking at Djiga, Antman and Gassama before they went to other clubs and we missed out initially. Miovski has scored in the SPFL and Cornelius, Miller and Meghoma have showed promise.
so there is ability and we want a coach who can bring that ability out and blend them into a team with perhaps a few more experienced individuals to make the team better/more confident but also to mentor the young lads on the pitch.

we then add 2-3 upgrades/additions each season to replace those we sell or those who don't make it. we just need to do it quickly to keep the fans onside as we expect immediate results.
we can't just keep buying players in bulk and if they don't work (i. e. we don't win every game) after 6 months bin them and buy more players. that constant rebuild hasn't worked so do we continue that in the hope that eventually the 8-10 new players we buy every season will eventually win.

05 Dec 2025 12:46:53
Norway manager bud👍,
For keeping Cornelius, Meghoma.
Gassama/Antman, Coaching/Confidence
Djiga/Miovski, Naw / not the same player
Chermiti, thought he'd work out, but needs loaned maybe

Whose Miller btw?

05 Dec 2025 13:07:52
Thanks Fork you are correct. and Miller is Moore. I was jumping between that post and a report I was writing for work so wasn't concentrating 100% obviously.

I still think you can't judge these young players 100% when no-one in the team is playing well. Like Rohl I thought winning games however scrappily would give players confidence but that didn't work out although our attack was better on Wednesday bar the final product perhaps.
We all agree Thelwell wasn't suited but someone else (Koppen? ) thought these players would do a job for us.

Re Miovski I think our style doesn't suit him but I saw more on Wednesday than before and perhaps he will adapt to match our style rather than the other way around. I think Chermiti will play backup to the new no9 we buy/loan and be mentored and given time to adapt (a bit like we did with Iga).

my point is there is ability there but a large part of their development will be gaining the mentality to play for us. it will be that which decides whether they make it or not.

I do know without any inside knowledge that we aren't going to replace the 8 players in this window and send all the loanees back (even if the loan agreement allows it).

05 Dec 2025 13:51:20
Either way we need to get on top of the inconsistencies in not just the team, but individuals.

05 Dec 2025 16:53:10
Fork I agree but fed up with the thought process where if we aren't doing well we just get rid of manager, coaches and players as they are rubbish. then replace them all with a new group who are the same.

let Rohl work with what we have (and a few additions) to iron out the issues and get what we have playing well. it might take months but that is surely better than 13 years.

05 Dec 2025 17:03:58
Think Rohls the right guy, just need decent recruitment n build from there.

05 Dec 2025 22:33:12
The majority of our signings aren't good enough a will leave eventually Chermiti will never make it at Rangers. No point hanging onto guys that we know won't make it. It's just ludicrous. It's either the manager or the players it can't be anything else Angus it's football not rocket science.

06 Dec 2025 08:19:48
Storm but I am saying it is a science that is beyond a fan base who lack patience for a player to settle and come good. they were good players before they came to us but for some reason aren't performing here. partly the team performing poorly but probably a lot on the mentality and confidence. that can be worked on

it won't be the first time that fans have not liked players and they came good.

so what happens with the next lot we buy who don't hit the ground running straight away and have the audacity to just get a draw or even lose against teams who don't have the same budget as us.
we need to build a winning squad and team and that takes time; not in one window as not all of the players we buy will succeed.
As a fan I don't know either but let the football professionals work with them, add a few experienced players and see if they can give them that confidence to play in front of 50,000 fans who bay at every missed pass or chance.

04 Dec 2025 13:56:35
Rohl has talent I'm sure. He knows it, people in the football world know it ,so why in god's name take this job? It's a basket case. He certainly wants a challenge! He's got one.

04 Dec 2025 21:40:55
Maybe he believes he can sort out the mess we are in.

05 Dec 2025 09:52:45
and just think if he does he becomes a hero and worshipped by thousands.

04 Dec 2025 07:50:02
Do u remember the story of George Weahs "cousin"? We have our very own version of Ali Dia in Chermiti.

04 Dec 2025 09:22:56
Imagine being asked if we wanted to take him on loan but saying, 'Nah, we don't have to see how good he is, here's 8 million! '

Very strange.

04 Dec 2025 09:24:02
I just don't understand how he has got so far in the game, I don't see any positive attributes at all, it does look like he has never even seen a ball let alone kicked one.
Pure mince.

04 Dec 2025 09:38:15
Kaiser I still think there is a player in there. yes he missed the sitter but he had the skill to be able to get into the position to miss it.
I think what we have is a 21 yo player who for the first time in his career is playing as a starter for a team; and one who have huge expectations and haven't been successful recently. he is also saddled with his price tag which is obviously causing him issues.

add to that we don't create huge numbers of chances for our forwards anyway and you have the perfect storm.
I keep hoping he will score a couple and everyone will forget about his price and let him play. even one hitting off his backside might be all he needs to give him a bit of confidence.

04 Dec 2025 13:30:35
Angus - a goal going in off his ass then him doing the emu celebrations telling folk to shut their mouths really would be the icing on the cake 😆.

04 Dec 2025 13:54:31
I think it will need to be off his backside mate because he cannot do with his head or feet. 😜.

04 Dec 2025 15:57:53
in my experience strikers snatch at chances and try too hard when they are on a dry run whereas if they are scoring it comes more easily. we have players across the frontline who can score but confidence and lack of chances being created are causing them to be too inconsistent there. they keep getting into the positions to have chances so I feel the tide will eventually turn.


work also needs to be done by the new analyst coach on final 3rd decision making as well but that will need a bit of time. that will help more chances being created.
oh and if he wants to give it when he is getting so much I really don't have an issue with that. 😁.

04 Dec 2025 16:06:35
Angus he is far too raw a won't make it here and all that is irrelevant when you pay the money for him he shouldn't be a project. I was all for giving him time but the problem is no other striker doing it either. With all 3 of them we have spanked over 15 million on them and they are all rotten.

04 Dec 2025 17:31:17
Charmit has scored total 12 goals since 2021 in that time has earned best part 4m between Rangers/Everton,
Who in there right mind would go for that, plus who approved it.
Good luck to the boy must have good agent.


Will leave us with big pay of and will still have 10 to 15 year career ahead,
Mind boggling how a player lacking basics, is able to make so much.

04 Dec 2025 17:41:25
His dad was his agent until recently I read, with a lot of connections to 49rs and some agency, someone posted about this a while ago.

04 Dec 2025 18:46:58
Storm I disagree and think that there are far too many good football people around who think he is a player. he is getting games for Portugal u21s alongside guys like Carlos Forbs and Roger Fernandes (market value £20M) so he must be doing okay. not me or you but guys who know how to spot a player.
He isn't performing for us at the moment but I suspect that is due partly to the expectations on his price and that he hasn't really been a starter for any club till now. If we keep creating enough chances for 32 shots every game they will score and with scoring comes confidence. or we get rid of him and lose £8m (assuming that price is right).

Shota his father had and has no links. 49ers have done business with CAA the agency you mention but tbh I can't see the financial sense in paying Everton (let's say) £8M to get a 15% agency commission for another company. that would make them lose £6.8M on the deal.

04 Dec 2025 21:08:41
He hasn't performed anywhere Angus and I heard Figo rates him how many games did he see at Everton? I'll guess zero how many has he seen him play at Rangers I'll guess zero. Just because some think he is a player doesn't make him a player. I have my own eyes as does the majority of Rangers fans and they know he won't make it here.


Also don't start going down the coops and mr wrong rubbish with oh this player said that about him this player said this. You just like to go against the majority and it's fine that's your opinion.

04 Dec 2025 21:09:55
Angus it was 8 million not if the price is right it's 8 million. We won't make anywhere near that back on him.

04 Dec 2025 22:04:33
Mr wrong how embarrassing, whatever helps you get through the day, can remember childish the other day, then this 🤯🤣🤣🤣. Quality 👏 👌.
Because they know much more than you, simple.

04 Dec 2025 22:09:00
No point in debating with a childlike character, say anything different from what they're thinking and the toys with come out the pram.

04 Dec 2025 22:15:29
Storm the Portugal u21 coach rates him as he played him ahead of some well valued players. does that sound like the argument for Raskin being good? so not just Figo is my point, and why I didn't mention him. Anyway I prefer to agree with what someone involved in a professional football role thinks. I think we agree he isn't performing here at the moment but that doesn't mean he isn't talented and if we can get develop him he can come good.


glad you were at the signing though and can confirm the £8m price as the club gave an undisclosed fee or is this another case of you believing the evidence you want but not that which doesn't fit your beliefs. we won't make that back at the moment or in future unless we develop him. that is the point.

05 Dec 2025 09:59:24
To be honest think we can't just take ex players opinion as gospel, just because they played the game, if so let's give a certain mr Stewart some leeway, he did play for Man United after all.
A lot of them talk total guff and as strom says it's what we see with our own eyes that matters.


He has done nothing for us and Everton beforehand, that must raise alarm bells, yes he may turn it around in years to come but he simply won't make it with us.

05 Dec 2025 10:00:14
he doesn't appeal to me but neither did mccoist to many fans in his first year. there was a loud cry to get rid of him early doors and thankfully some managers stuck with him.

we aren't playing well and the players are feeling the pressure, trying to hard and making harsh and wrong decisions especially in final 3rd in a desperate attempt to score.

05 Dec 2025 11:23:19
Shota but it not only ex player, be dozens, and they'll know better than us, scouts identify him, many coaches playing him, this isn't only because Figo rates him highly, he's only 21 year old and not even played 50 games, maybe he won't cut it at Rangers but that doesn't mean he'll not have a good career.

06 Dec 2025 11:41:31
How many games/goals has he scored for Portugal?