Rangers Discussion Posts 4

14 Aug 2026 15:29:04
I'm not condoning losing, and I'm certainly not condoning the poor recruitment from Thelwell and Purdy during their tenure. Mistakes have clearly been made so if Cavanagh decides to release them il happily back him for doing so.

But I also think we all need to calm down a little and try to look for some positives.

There are some good players in this squad, and with the correct additions before the window closes, I genuinely believe things will get better.

Whether you think McInnes is the man for Rangers or not, I think he'll be given proper time and I think he has to be.

Sacking another manager this early would do enormous damage to the stature and stability of the club. What does it say about Rangers if we appoint a manager, rebuild half the squad, then sack him after a handful of games?

McInnes hasn't been given all the correct tools for the job yet, so how can we realistically expect instant success?

It's a nightmare just now. Results aren't good enough, performances need to improve and everyone is frustrated. I get all of that.

But I honestly think that in a couple of months we'll start seeing real progress under McInnes and look back at some of the hysteria right now and wonder what all the panic was about.

Give him the remaining additions. Give this completely rebuilt squad time to settle and gel. Then judge what we actually have.

There's an old saying that feels pretty appropriate for Rangers just now:

It's always darkest before the dawn.

Hopefully there's a bit of light coming.

14 Aug 2026 16:21:20
It'll get to the stage if we carry on sacking managers that nobody will risk coming to us. Only thing that concerns me in your post is give him the remaining additions. Can we trust the remaining additions will be of any better quality.

14 Aug 2026 18:33:01
Stig, I agree. Since we came back up in 2016 we have had 10 permanent managers, Celtic have had 5. So our recruitment has been to pick players for a different manager every year. So we can't establish a style or even keep the same core of players.

Celtic, meanwhile, have, excluding Nancy, allowed managers to have 2-3 years in charge, which allows them to add to the team they have every year and not just tear it up and start again. That is our issue imo.

14 Aug 2026 13:35:51
MPH,

You will remember everything you said. Your reply to my post. I've written a thousand times. It's got us nowhere, in fact it's taken us back every time a manager has left.

I do not see a manager with the expertise and experience that every Rangers fan around the globe would love to see in the door waiting in the wings. It's a poison chalice and nobody of great significance from what I can see wants the job.

We're basically royally F.d.

Marco rose
Knutsen
Farioli
Will still

All these past managers we were apparently linked with, But we ended up with 2nd 3rd 4th guy down the list.

Everyone all on talking about getting rid of McInnes. Not one of you have came up with a list of candidates who would take the job. And then you say that's Cavanagh's job.

Maybe McInnes was the only one interested. Maybe the rest it's still going down project managers and we're trying to get from it.

Gerrard
Beale
Rohl

We had clement and GVB everyone in the end wanted rid. 🤣 None have been good enough in the eyes of the fans and non other quality manager want to throw there hat in without wanting big transfer budget big wages.

So what's the alternative.

14 Aug 2026 14:27:33
Stig, if it was a Rangers man required, should have just kept Ferguson. Better option, bigger credentials as a player.

14 Aug 2026 14:34:18
You can't keep a manager just because we sacked the last 4. As fans, we trust the custodians of the club to get it right. Now, McInnes might turn this around and I pray to God he does (even though I'm not religious - that's how desperate I am).

But McInnes ticked all the relevant boxes for some fans and we were told he would get off to a flier.

Same with the Rangers minded players.
Same with the SPFL experienced players.
Same with those from the Championship.
Same as those who were all apparently leaders.

So who from the following has been pulling up trees so far?
McInnes.
Shankland.
Devlin.
McCrorie.
Neil.
Godfrey (most were worried about his injury record / lack of playing time).
That's half the outfield players and manager who I believe have failed so far.
Motherwell have now found 2 managers in 2 years who have got off to a flyer.
Good managers are out there - we've just taken the lazy option to appease the fans.

14 Aug 2026 14:35:09
Windy, not sure credentials as a player comes into it.
Arsene Wenger, Sir Alex, Jurgen Klopp, Jose Mourinho. 4 of the greatest managers of modern times and none of them were particularly good.


Actually, I'd hazard a guess that McInnes had a more successful playing career than the 4 of them combined.
Not saying that he's in the same class when it comes to management before we go down that avenue.

14 Aug 2026 14:40:09
Windy, you will remember me posting about Barry, in fact I think I wrote an article on Barry keeping the job. It was laughed off the forum.

I've said about how Celtic get managers that hit the ground running and named them all and what they've went into win. I was told it takes time and we need to give them time and we can't expect instant success and players need time.

All those who said that have now thrown all that out and now saying the manager and players should be hitting the ground running. Of course no one wants to be reminded of their past posts about that particular discussion.


Now everyone is saying it and I'm on the opposite side as chopping and changing isn't getting us anywhere and the quality of managers is declining. So I think we need to stop with McInnes and give him time.

I'd hate to think we sacked him and who we end up with next if the decline continued. Do we still think the Americans are in this for the long term if this continues? I really have my reservations on how long they will give it, if they can't sort it and bring success.

14 Aug 2026 15:09:52
For what it's worth, Barry should have been offered the job last season but instead we gave it to the vegan imposter

14 Aug 2026 17:10:44
Fergie played 12, won four, drew 4, lost 4, conceded 20 plus goals.

14 Aug 2026 17:58:33
At some point the owners will erase, it isn't down to just the manager, and I think we are at that point. We need to develop a team who have a core of players who are the same for several years. Then we keep adding quality to that. That is what Celtic do, and have been reasonably successful at it. But it is their core of players who keep them winning.

What we do is buy a player and then sell him for the same or less 12 months later. That actually reduces the transfer budget we have every year. Coupled with that, we don't sell anyone for any money, as we normally have to take any price offered, as they know we have another new manager and need to sell to buy players that meet his playing style.



So keep the manager, buy some quality this season and next, and build that team/squad and give them time to play for 1 manager.

God forbid we may finish 2nd or 3rd which I know is terrible seeing as we have been winning the league every season until now; oh hang on a minute. So by giving that time all that happens short term is we end up being as poor in league as we have ever been. But this time we are building for the future.

15 Aug 2026 02:20:45
Stig, it isn't our job to have a list of managers, do what are you talking about? People are giving this guy in charge leeway because he gets it, he is a fan, he is staunch. Get a grip, he wasn't the correct choice and still isn't and never will be. It's embarrassing, and his in game decisions are a joke.

MPH, good post mate.

14 Aug 2026 13:27:58
The owners of Rangers need to sit down and take a long hard look at this club over many, many decades and realise this a bigger problem than they and we think

What's the definition of insanity? We've been doing it for decades. We had a very good period in the second half of the 80's and the 90's when they were a bin fire and ran poorly like us.

If you want to break decades and decades of mediocrity you need to study how we got here, what mistakes were made. What's changed in football since then and how do negate changes in the game and previous mistakes.

It won't happen overnight but if we truly want to return to anything that resembles the 90's some hard truths need to be told and accepted.

Many don't know we've played second fiddle to Celtic more often than not for over 60 yrs. We need radical change top to bottom. The fans don't have the patience for it and any board that wants to implement it won't get time to so we'll continue to stick a plaster over a wound that requires surgery.

You might not believe me and think all we need is 4/5 starters! Hopefully we'll both be here in 5/10 years to discuss it. I'm pretty certain if we don't do the above I'll be right. If it takes 3-5yrs to implement fully for the benefit of the club long term we need to bite the bullet.

Pick a style of play and don't change it. Get the best Coaches you can afford to implement it through the Club and set your scouting and recruitment up to search for those who will improve it.

If we don't . I'm afraid many fans will stay away just like they did in the late 70's and 80's.

Let's see

14 Aug 2026 18:04:31
Iron, good points, but we also threw money at it in those years, which caused us to go bust. It also was at a time when English teams weren't in Europe so we got international players from there (by throwing aforesaid money at it).

I do agree that buying 4 or 5 quality players is just a sticking plaster to an extent. My hope is that the sticking plaster provides the short term fix to allow us to not sack manager for once. Then we apply a better sticking plaster next season by keeping the 4 or 5 from this season and supplementing them with 4 or 5 more quality players.

We need that sort of stability to get a team on the park that starts winning right from day 1. Expecting a new team/squad to do that is a big ask when we sign 14 or 15 every season.

So, I agree and first season and a bit is the hard bit as fans won't accept this approach, but they will come back again once the team starts winning. Can US owner fund that shortfall whilst it happens? Who knows.

14 Aug 2026 18:34:25
We've been dominated 5 out the last 7 decades, Angus. We've got deep rooted problems. In the late 80's and 90's, they were exactly what we are now. We did spend, we probably spent more than we had to again, that's part of the problem. Even from a position of strength, we were chucking money about on absolute rubbish. We've got deep rooted problems. I'd start with identifying a playing style and getting the best coach you can afford to implement it.

Implement it through the whole academy. We need massive surgery in everything we do, football wise. 4/5 starters every season will not fix why we've been dominated for 5/7 decades. It might buy us some breathing space, but we're an absolute bin fire. We had the perfect opportunity in 2012 to shape the club from the ground up, and unfortunately we're owned and ran by fxxxxxx con men.

14 Aug 2026 20:04:15
Iron, if you ignore the last 15 years then Celtic only won 1 more title than us since 1956. By decade the titles won (us first) are:

1950s 3-0
1960s 4-4
1970s 4-6
1980s 3-3
1990s 9-1
2000s 4-6
2010s 2-8

So, fairly even across the piste, other than when we threw our cash we didn't have at it.

btw I do agree the need to look at the whole club and make changes needed to get back to where we were. I also agree we need to ignore the fan noise and build over a season or so from ground up. I think that has been happening in background but is still early. If we can build a team on the pitch as well during this time then even better. I don't think we can attract a top manager atm and whilst McInnes wasn't my first choice he is what we have and I would rather give him time than find another and change squad again. My issue with him was style of play but he has built a good team spirit and got teams playing better everywhere he has been so perhaps that is what we need atm.

That will automatically come with a playing style.
Academy, a different matter, as not sure if there is a pathway from there to 1st team, but they do need to play same style and formation.

I thought, in the past, ebbing run by Rangers fans was an issue, and Green and Ashley were dubious, but think at last we have people who need to get the club right even if it is to make profit in the long run. Anything else means they need to take a huge loss.

Re 2012, I said at the time that rather than let McCoist hire overpaid journeymen we should have played our kids and built for the future. That is what annoys me when he spouts out about the club now. He had the chance to change things but didn't.

15 Aug 2026 06:38:35
Not sure on your figures, I assume they're right, but on a quick glance Celtic won the league title in 53/54. Then had a dry period till they done 9IAR so 3/1 not 3/0.

Why ignore the last 15 yrs? They've happened? Ignoring them might make it look better.

It doesn't change the facts thou, mate.

We're a side show to them. They're the main event. As much as it annoys folk to hear.

Have a good day, mate.

15 Aug 2026 02:23:09
I would rather not give a man that is a serial loser time. get rid right now.

15 Aug 2026 09:31:39
If a complete overhaul, with a DOF being appointed and a style of play being implemented for the long term, means DM being replaced, I've no issues.

14 Aug 2026 13:08:56
First time poster on here guys.

Extremely concerned about where we are headed as a club, especially with the lack of outgoings for any significant fees along with the now lack of at least Europa League football, to be able to fund any significant signings of quality we might have had in mind. Totally understand and appreciate that likely everyone is on the same boat that we need to build a team that can win the league first and foremost before we can think about those amazing European nights under the lights at Ibrox again, but we are in complete shambles as things stand, while the other lot over the city look on paper to be adding the quality that could completely take them away from us for god knows how many seasons.

While I'm in agreement with most that the recruitment has not been good enough for the most part, I don't think this is an excuse for not being able to field a team to get by both Dundee United and Hibs, both of which we have comfortably better players than. We had 6 players in our squad against Dundee United who were at the world cup and a further 5 that are full internationals for their countries.

I'll admit I was an advocate for McInnes coming in, but we look completely devoid of ideas in the final third or any tactical awareness defensively. The lack of spatial awareness we have particularly in the final third is mind boggling, with last night highlighting that even more, players lumping balls into the box, Naderi and Shankland basically running into each other in the box. The players visibly don't look like they have any idea or direction whatsoever. Any manager worth his salt should be able to get this group of players into a way of working, even at the basic level and we can't even seem to do those right. 3 players marking a man at the back post last night and all 3 beat in the air. The team look as if they have no confidence and no direction at all.

I also think we can't keep churning through managers and rebuild every window, but where does this end? We are in dire trouble of having the Scottish Cup as our only hope for silverware this season if things don't go to plan this weekend.

Not particularly sure the point I'm trying to make here guys, more of a vent than anything. But where do we go from here? Say we do get shot of our recruitment heads in Purdy and Thelwell, where does this leave us going into the final few weeks of the transfer window if the recruitment plans go out the window? More importantly what level of player are we realistically going to be able to attract now with dropping down to the Conference League (fingers crossed)?

A reel doom and gloom few weeks for us Rangers fans, certainly the lowest I've felt for quite some time (even under Martin). At the stage where it is complete apathy towards Rangers as a club just now.

14 Aug 2026 13:37:39
Welcome. A first visit to a madhouse is always a shock. 🔴⚪🔵

14 Aug 2026 14:11:04
Welcome, mate. Good first post.

I'm going to wait and see how we're looking and what progress has been made a few months down the line. I can't join in on the sack managers after 4 games.

Thelwell and Purdy, yes, should have gone with Snr and Stewart.

I'm keeping everything crossed. By window closed will have a squad ready to fight.

14 Aug 2026 12:54:14
This might be stating something blatantly obvious, but there is something inherently wrong behind closed doors at Ibrox. We are so very poor, and being honest we have been for years. There is no drive, no passion, no desire from this team, but for me it comes from more than the players. We have changed so many players that the malaise is highly unlikely to have carried over from last season's group. We have had more managers in the past five years than we have ever had and none of them can get the players to shine.

So the question that needs to be asked is what exactly is the issue. Is there something behind that front door that is stopping talented individuals from performing and doing their job on a regular basis? Is there a fear factor involved? Is it, for now at least, just a case of a new team trying to build and bond together?

The basic fact of the matter is that players and managers have come and gone so quickly in some cases that our famous door on Edmiston Drive could be replaced with a revolving door! We have had no settled team and plan since our late manager Walter Smith had the team playing in a style he wanted them to. Looking at managers since then, Alistair McCoist had his team playing well for a while, but his results came mostly against lower league teams so do they really count? His football, like everyone since, was dire.

Following McCoist, we have had Warburton, Pedro Caixhina, Steven Gerrard, Giovanni van Bronkhorst, Michael Beale, Philippe Clement, Barry Ferguson, Russell Martin, Danny Rohl and now of course Derek McInnes. With little exception, one notable one of course being when Gerrard won title 55, there has been no change in the way the team has approached games. We have no leadership, no flair, no style. We do not create enough chances to win games. Frankly, at any point in the past few years, we could have had Messi and Haaland up front and we still would have struggled to create chances.

So what exactly is the problem then? It's clearly something going on behind closed doors that we, the support and lifeblood of the club, are not privy to. Something is inherently wrong with the way our players are recruited, trained, coached, selected and driven. Watching that game last night was turgid. The players on the park should have been more than enough to see that team off, but once again our players failed to turn up. Questions need to be asked at a high level within the club why this continues and hoe it can be addressed.

While it would not solve the problem overnight, the one thing missing for me is a playmaker in the middle of the park. Barry Ferguson is probably the most recent version of this in our club. A player who can get the ball and create chances. Our midfield for now seems to be blockers rather than ball players, and this is something that can be easily changed. But that leads on to another question, can the current recruitment team be trusted to find such a player? Do we actually have people scouting players or are we just using analytics? Who has final say on the signings? These and so many other questions are needing to be answered very quickly.

So, these rambling thoughts of mine come hard on the heels of yet another euro campaign that has all but failed before it starts. I don't think anyone here will be able to give a proper, definitive answer to any of the questions, but it was something I needed to get out of my head as it's kept me awake most of last night. The one thing that is very clear to me is that changing the manager makes the situation worse. We cannot keep changing managers in these situations, McInnes must be given time to build a team but he needs the backing of signing players that will help him in this quest. Our recruitment team are not good enough.

I look forward to reading your thoughts on this, thanks for reading

14 Aug 2026 13:16:22
Good post, Dtb. I always excused the mess and mistakes prior to Ac as the people running the club were doing so in the aftermath of 2012 and didn't have a lot of £ themselves to keep throwing at it. In short, it seemed like they were doing their best but were limited either in money or ability.

I can't make that excuse for Ac and this consortium.

I fully expected them to modernise the club, implement the required structures at all levels, and have us mirror similar sized clubs in other leagues that were run efficiently and able to demonstrate growth across the board - such as those in the RB Group.



We're obviously not seeing this, and it is clear something is very wrong. That goes back to Ac and the ownership group, IMO.

14 Aug 2026 12:28:18
I find it interesting that our plight matches a certain red hat wearing group in the united states. All filled with nostalgia about past glory and thoughts that greatness can be returned with cash, the right personality and the stroke of a pen.

It has been said on here and elsewhere, many times, that our impatience as fans has been the biggest key to our current state. Clement had a plan, couldn't wait get rid. Gio had a plan couldn't wait get rid. Rohl had a plan couldn't wait get rid. This attitude has been so toxic that we are now where we are. We are a sh**e football club and there is a difficult path back to respectibility. So we as fans have to ask ourselves are we willing to accept the difficult path that stands before us and follow the club through this or are we going to run the club into the ground to punish the current group. I personally feel i'd rather have a club to follow.

14 Aug 2026 14:19:54
I too hate this constantly keep sacking managers.

Clement had a plan - he should have won the league in his first season & bottled it

GVB inherited champions with a good lead over that lot, who had rebuilt under an unknown manager & bottled it - GVB's football became dreadful to watch (except the euro run)

Rohl left, he wasn't sacked

And under Del I can't see signs off a plan.
I didn't want him in the first place, and also don't want sacked.i just pray him & his lack lustre signings prove me wrong and go on to lift the treble

14 Aug 2026 11:46:45
I cannot believe the club are trying to peddle driouch failed a medical when he had already done his medical and been at the game. Do they think the fans are stupid? I'd respect the club more if they were honest he wanted at least Europa and soon as that was gone he didn't want to come. This absolute nonsense trying to pull the wool over our eyes just infuriates me.

Off the cscs after that nonsense last night won't be getting another penny off me this season to spunk up the wall. Ran by absolute chancers.

14 Aug 2026 13:50:04
Yes, they think the fans are stupid. It's another massive mess up by the owners who came making the same mistakes again and again.