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21 Aug 2019 16:40:44
Aint it funny (NOT) all the money/ Awards being claimed by ex directors and assosiates directly and indirectly conected to RFC and ticitus. And we are still stuck with the fat rat who they put in place.
Am i missing something here!?

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19 Aug 2019 11:23:46
Starting to annoy me that every time i go to read about my team, there are numerous columns about what jackie McNamara has to say over Rangers finances, the team, the signings and the owners and management. All are always nagative and insulting. The man knows nothing about our club, and can't see anyone from inside Rangers telling him anything.

I know everyone is entitled to voice there opinion, but why can't he stick to writing about his own club, who are not in the best of shape themselves at the moment. Sorry for the rant guys, but just sick of ex rival players trying to put us down.

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19 Aug 2019 14:36:40
Laudrup just don’t read his articles.

19 Aug 2019 18:46:16
He's deflecting from his own clubs inadequacies. 👍
Keeps the natives happy but doesn't fool us that there is trouble ahead.
Sit back, relax and enjoy the fun!

09 Aug 2019 22:23:15
I'm in a good mood after the result but have to clear up a few things on this page.
Jboy good to hear from you again. Funny how you can't remember your password for here but remember everyone of my posts.

Greaves the company you say I slated are going to be selling the NEW strip, can you tell us if it the new 2nd or 3rd strip? - the ones the courts have banned. Anyway what financial benefits will we get from Greaves selling our merchandise.

Oh wait we could start selling them in your mate sports shops remember the guy who only makes £6 a top and the rest go to the manufacturer and the club. Now to clear up some of the misinformation on here it was not the old board who signed this deal with SD it was David cunningplan King, not to worry it's all part of his ploy, you still extremely confident mols goals.

Now to address the mythical 93p in the £ that is said to go to SD. If our merchandise is sold in SD, JD sports or Greaves the retailer get 65-70% of the sale, distribution and storage get 10-15% and the final 20-25% goes to the manufacturer ie Hummel.

They give up £10m over the 3 year deal that's were most of our merchandise money come from. The man u and Liverpool of this world get £75m a year from their deals plus 65-70% (ie they are the retailers) when they sell something in their shops, that's were the big money is. Even the mob from the other side of the city made £17m from their retailer last year why because they have shops- thanks sir David.

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10 Aug 2019 11:27:58
Riom, I did not forget password, could not get in.
It was not king who signed paperwork it was Murray, have u heard of owners of companies who empower staff.

12 Aug 2019 09:18:26
Having been a managing director, there was nothing of importance that was signed, that I did not authorise. There is no doubt that DK, if not signing, would endorse any document of significant importance.

15 Aug 2019 00:04:09
Really mull . after such a high so much negativity. oh dear.

15 Aug 2019 07:57:20
Molsgoals, I believe that mull is a poster that is good for this site, as he brings a sense of realism to the debates we have.
We all wear our blue tinted glasses at times, but we must consider the facts as well, and mull states it as he sees it and I, for one, agree with him more times than not.
Yes we have many things to be thankful to DK for, but some of his financial decisions are questionable, and his promise of transparency, is closer to tell them [us] what we want to hear.
All this does is give "our enemies" the ammo for further criticism, and then they come on here to "gloat" at our problems.
I refuse to debate with them the eds, rightly so, refuse to post many of my comments. I will gladly debate with fellow bluenoses, no matter what their opinion may be.
This is why I think mull gets such a hard time on here as he posts items that many on here cannot accept.

15 Aug 2019 11:46:54
Agree with most of your post. Billyb. But iom is like most of us, guesswork.

15 Aug 2019 23:49:28
I have even read posts from mull where he sticks up for Ashley over mr king . billy that has nothing whatsoever to do with realism. a negative take on the chair with no realistic alternative is not realism to me my friend.

16 Aug 2019 16:13:41
Billy

A bit like Molsgoals I have no problem with RIOM Opinion on these issues guarding against our previous sleepwalking into insolvency with no challenge. My contention is that he seems to take pleasure in the position we find ourselves at times to show he was likely correct. It’s all quite narrow minded as my opinion and everyone else’s on these pages is pretty much irrelevant so why take it so personally. Like him or not DK has backed the club and has the right to take these decisions and we really just have to accept the decisions just like every other board before him.

We can certainly do nothing to change it.

16 Aug 2019 17:19:42
Mols, like Molsgoals you think that even when DK is categorically wrong in his tactics with SD it is part of his master plan. I have my doubts, but the 64 dollar question for tonight is will he pay the £450,000 that has to be paid by today?

16 Aug 2019 20:41:56
Billy

It may be part of his master plan and if it is he must have been in a desperate place to put in place a plan which follows no business sense. In my work place I was told a bad decision is better than no decision and suspect this is where the board may have been and opted for a bad decision. If this was his decision on balance I disagree with the decision but support his right to make it. There is a difference and very easy to state with the benefit of hindsight and from my couch

Not aware of the payment to be made. Is this for the compensation for the court decision and the payment will by Rangers and not DK. Is this correct.

16 Aug 2019 20:51:12
Guys, I seldom agree with his points but think RIOM does make a contribution to the discussion. Too much gloating and unnecessary negativity for me, unless of-course he has a grudge to vent.

16 Aug 2019 23:36:17
Billy, in your position as an MD did everything go perfectly to plan all of the time?

If not, did you divulge all thoughts, negotiating positions etc?

I have a huge issue with supporters who don’t KNOW anything about the inner workings of this dispute but automatically take the negative slant.

In my experience a business where everything is always rosy is a pretty dull, said business that is going nowhere.

17 Aug 2019 22:10:38
As far I’m aware Paul Murray responsible for agreeing the sports direct deal. Also I believe Murray to be a qualified accountant.

18 Aug 2019 11:12:54
Mols one thing you are right about and what is crystal clear and that is we were in a desperate place when king came in with our only alternative . So now we must all acknowledge that now . although not ideal . we are in a much much better place and to deny it is both absolute nonsense and negative Mischief making . check the facts from day one . and again thank you mr king for stepping up to the plate.

18 Aug 2019 12:49:26
DK19, I have already replied to your post but it has not been posted.
So here is a condensed version.
Para 1 -- of course not.
Para 2 -- you tend to take advice on areas you are weak, but you always have something up your sleeve.
Para 3 -- most people take a view influenced by the media, others look at court rulings etc., and a half full logic will scorn a half empty or negative, as you call it.
Para 4 -- Not in my experience.

19 Aug 2019 11:18:09
Bankie, PM is an accountant but specialises in investment and portfolio management.

He may have been the lead in contract negotiations but the actual contract would have been created and agreed between lawyers from each side with board members overseeing the detail as negotiations progressed.

To believe that our lawyers and therefore our board were not aware of the matching clause is ridiculous- our board comprises highly successful and wealthy businessmen who simply do not make this type of schoolboy error.

For me, they saw the £3m buyout as the best way to escape the onerous SD contract even with the potential risk posed by the matching clause.

Similarly now with the ongoing court cases, the board will have taken the view that it is better to fight and potentially lose than to allow Ashley back into the fold without a fight.

If it was me I would be taking the same route as we all know that Ashley has no interest in promoting the interests of our club and so should not be involved.

19 Aug 2019 17:27:35
Exactly DK and mull regarding your mythical 93 p in the pound that you said SD get . as far as I am led to Believe this is no more and one of the major reasons we are going around this merry go round so as to relinquish Ashby’s control . Mr king did and promised Ashley whatever he had to in order to regain control of certain aspects . One major one was ( and I note you fail to comment or respond to this on all of your posts So I suspect this will be no different ) is that mr king in his negotiations amongst many other things managed to prise the royalty rights to our crest from his grasp. Of which I think green had given up for a pittance ( on paper at least ) if you kn what I mean. Mull this was a major major victory and plus for us as Ashley would have milked us dry on royalty payments on everything from programs . strips . merchandising . everything with our logo on it . We had to get that back and me king succeeded. Of course no acknowledgment to this fact from yourself or fellow knockers . but believe it was a major major piece of work in the jigsaw . don’t know how he managed to persuade him to give it up . and prob the consequences are what we are going through now, but you better believe it has been well well worth it.

19 Aug 2019 18:11:58
Agree with u Mols.

19 Aug 2019 21:17:05
Excellent posts guys, not sure if a bit of Monday morning quarter back included but feasible strategy that could pay off. Looking forward to seeing IOM and Billyb’s retort.

19 Aug 2019 23:11:06
Ha Bankie Monday morning quarter back? Not got a clue what you mean but it sounds very . well American lol.

20 Aug 2019 11:52:35
Let's hope that SG doesn't read these pages as the tactics to which you refer, if transferred from the boardroom to the pitch, would see us relegated.
Not to worry in SG, I trust.

20 Aug 2019 16:05:47
IOM, hope your retort is stronger than Billyb’s.

20 Aug 2019 16:15:03
So do I Bankie, but to be quite honest with you the comments made are not worth a response. I actually stopped reading the Beano to respond, and there is more logic in the comic.

20 Aug 2019 20:09:22
Billy my friend the reason stevie g and the current team are there is because of the boardroom.

20 Aug 2019 21:27:49
Yes, Molsgoals we have been over this, but he cannot live on one great decision. Things are only as good as bad decisions and his arrogance. He reminds me so much of DM, it is frightening, and don't forget he was involved with everything that went wrong with our failings.

21 Aug 2019 10:21:57
We are in a very good place albeit with a shower cloud hanging over us in the shape of SD.

If you really think our board does not understand their situation and does not have a plan then you are simply blinkered and biased.

Forget the rumours and the guesswork, consider the facts of where we are now on the pitch and off it against where we were when DK won (bought) control.

I’m assuming that you can only decide that we are 100% better in all areas.

Now tell me who your alternative to DK was. You have hinted many times in the past about someone ready and willing - thankfully I did not hold me breath.

21 Aug 2019 14:44:42
I have never said they don't have a plan, they have and a very dangerous one for us [ the fans. ]
It is very similar to DM's tactics, but I am not going to waste my time explaining the basis to you.
You are as bad as the eastend boys that plague this site with their "I know everything about our financial position, " attitude.
So another rest for my typing finger, and back to the Beano annuals.
Dk your fairy tale thinking usually has a good ending, so hopefully you get one. However, this is real life and DK, believe me DK is playing a dangerous game.

21 Aug 2019 15:55:33
Billyb, believe you have cited in the past personal knowledge of the past business practices of DM out-with our club and that you probably at best considered them unethical. Think for most of us the main thing DM did wrong was adopting a business plan for our club that ultimately would not work and then introducing our club to that toad C Whyte. Regardless of what we may think that is all now in the past. Rather than leave it there you seem to believe that because DK was a member of the old board he is a fundamentally flawed character and as our current Chairman is not capable of acting in the best interests of our club. I for one just don’t buy that. I have no doubts he has made mistakes, but I believe he and the current board are rangers men and moving forward will continue to act in the best interests of our club. Whilst some on here like you and IOM frequently criticise and raise questions on board decisions and intentions, i don’t see you making alternative constructive recommendations in the interests of our club.

21 Aug 2019 16:57:05
All I will say to you bankie is fine, think what you like. All I will say is that why should I open a debate above your capacity of thinking. Finger definitely retired.

21 Aug 2019 17:42:51
That’s a shame Billyb, thought had experience and skill set of a MD.

21 Aug 2019 18:38:55
If I was a betting man I would say there is every chance "widow t****ie" is john cass of old. Yet another that has to hide behind a new name. If your not you must be related as your niggling is nothing but annoying, and will not make me take the bate.

22 Aug 2019 00:20:31
Billy glass half full we might Benin what you called a dangerous position but in my opinion it’s not a tenth as dangerous as it was before mr king dragged us out of the then position . And iom this bit is for you too . . I just bought the warsaw game on rtv for a tenner. All the money I believe goes to the club as far as I kn and I thought to myself . if 100,000 people worldwide buy this that’s 2 million into the club. Then mull I thought if Ashley still had our crest and logo and we were still fortunate enough to be in this position,
he would have undoubtedly took around 3/ 4 of that . Is the whole thing making a bit more sense to you billy and mull now? Prob not.

22 Aug 2019 03:28:16
That is where your logic fails molsgoals, 10×100,000 ain't 2 million. If your getting those returns at the bank or wherever please share the info.

22 Aug 2019 14:06:46
Billyb, your last post makes no sense to me. Disappointed you appear to have spat the dummy and don’t want to engage in constructive dialogue about the future financial strategy of our club. Enjoy the match tonight.

03 Aug 2019 09:06:41
I don't understand why Rangers FC has put Sports Direct back on the website as official retail partner and Hummel's name is nowhere to be seen. Surely there is a contract with Hummel regardless of Ashley and if the latest ruling by the court is followed, Sports Direct will get compensation anyway so what is the point in putting their name on the site?

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03 Aug 2019 17:12:26
The court case has proved the separate deal with Hummel was invalid.

03 Aug 2019 19:05:40
@magyar - congratulations👍 Your game finished 20 minutes ago but you couldn't contain yourself. You had to come onto the Rangers site straight away.
Collect your most obsessed Celtic Fan of the day award from Leon Bhoy.
Last seen in peak Celtic Da mode after quoting JJ and ill Phil as Gospel! 😱😂😱.

04 Aug 2019 15:59:31
My name should indicate I'm not a Celtic fan. I go on this site for the banter.

06 Aug 2019 19:24:49
Hi Magyar, after all the goings on at Firhill today maybe you should be more concerned about your own team.

01 Aug 2019 21:57:28
This kit shenanigans is a real bawbreaker but as someone said all business transactions carry risk good or bad, thus risk is then assessed for mitigation's should it go ars over tit as it has. Injunction won't allow these mitigation's media time but the board will or should have these actions in place in this case financial. SD business leads will demand recompense and leverage till the contract ends but the situation as before doesn't benefit anyone financially. Hummel I'm afraid is gone but next season a deal could be made with SD or its a case of years, sometimes 10 years in court conjecture and counter appeal. I would advise DK lawyers and commercial to eat humble and seriously consider their requirements - end of!

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01 Aug 2019 13:16:16
Rangers remove Hummel as official retail partner.

SPORTS DIRECT REINSTATED.

Even though the injunction takes place next season!

What a truly awful mess! Board need to clarify this NOW!

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01 Aug 2019 10:49:08
Question for anybody who read the judgement today or has a legal brain. Could Rangers fc make and sell their own kits. We've got a year to buy a small premises abroad, staff it with Rangers employees and do it ourselves. Let Hummel be a Sponsor rather than maker and the shirt could look the similar. We could make a million kits, real first team kits and call them spare rather than replica. Would this be possible? There must be a way round this in the short term until the fat mans deal runs its natural course. Any QCs out there.

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01 Aug 2019 10:37:24
What's all this on social media About us getting half million fine for not registering strips or somthing ive just saw the picks of the letter hope it's fake.

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01 Aug 2019 09:45:24
Re this court case. I think we are all guessing. Some saying its no problem others claiming its the end of the world. At present if its not much am sure it will be paid off and if its silly money then we do have player assets to sell that can cover costs ( not what we want to do with money from players) .

No matter what my only worry is Hummel. They could be in a position to take us to court also, however am not sure if they have seen sales as high of football tops they make before, so its a situation of biting the hand that feeds you. As a fan am very happy, more than I thought I would be with Hummel and would be sad to lose them, but its a business and they as with Sports Direct do what makes them money.

Lets talk about our side of things. I would hope Rangers make an investigation into how:
1) a deal was made that put so much power into Sports Directs hand, but mainly

2) Was there inside information being handed to Sports Direct about progress of meetings that were confidential as that puts us in a situation to sue.

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01 Aug 2019 07:55:50
On the strips issue and SD, why doesn't King and co form a new limited company to buy the strips from whoever (Hummel? ) and ensure this company has no links to Rangers International. Then put them on sale via the new company and fans can buy from them! There are accounting ways to ensure the revenue would eventually end up in Rangers' coffers. Sorted!

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01 Aug 2019 13:54:41
Brilliant Doiger just brilliant. I've got a mate, Arfur Daly, and he can get premises. Equipment and a few Eastern European girls to run them off. If you give me your number I'll get Arfur to bell you on the old dog and bone. Sorted.

 


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