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30 Jun 2017 21:44:13
i think Wilson will replace Bates for the return leg although he's not quite ready. Pedro is desperate to do well in this comp and surely Alves will get wee break.

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1.) 30 Jun 2017 23:27:43
Bates is more than enough


2.) 01 Jul 2017 00:07:18
Can't see it, thought Bates was excellent last night, and deserves to keep his place til Alves arrives


3.) 01 Jul 2017 00:12:09
Bates was comfortable enough so he should start 2nd leg we have to remember we were playing a very poor team. Cardoso looks very solid with a bit of class.


4.) 01 Jul 2017 00:27:19
Don't see why he'd do that. Bates and Cardoso done well together, fair enough they weren't tested a lot but I think Bates is growing as a player really quickly for someone who's only played a handful of games in the first team. He gets stick from some folk and I don't understand why because he has never really put a foot wrong.


5.) 01 Jul 2017 02:23:29
I like Bates and I have high hopes for him but he was very poor in the air last night. Hooefully playing and training with Alves will help him improve on that.


6.) 01 Jul 2017 05:31:34
Bates is a young guy who is excelling for his age he has done nothing wrong but as usual experts who I can't stress enough could not kick their own arses seem to want him to fail and find fault in his game.


7.) 01 Jul 2017 08:53:58
Couldn't agree more Gary. All I seem to hear is people absolutely slating the boy and I haven't seen him do anything majorly wrong. Is he the finished article? No. Not by a long shot but I think he has plenty of potential.


8.) 01 Jul 2017 13:50:11
AT no point did i slate Bates. i like him n i love that we're bringing through our own. it was the boys first game in Europe and he did OK, could have been better in the air and distribution could have been better. I'm sure he'll continue to progress under PC but he needs time. i just think in the return Pedro will go with experience. The goal from Kenny n Nico came purely from experience it's VITAL!


9.) 01 Jul 2017 14:42:20
If his name was Batesio fans would be raving about his potential. I just don't understand why some fans seem to enjoy slaughtering our own. Having young Scots in our team is vital now and they need our backing 100%, esp if they make mistakes. Support your team


10.) 01 Jul 2017 15:55:28
I think bates is not great. My 80 year old mum could have strolled through that game the other night at C-Back. he's poor in the air and never attacks the ball. he's not exactly blessed with pace either, and he's not exactly a strong athlete. His only saving grace is that he reads the game well at times. would be better out on loan to harden him up. We'll dominate 90% of our games this season, and it won't do him any good being carried through by Alves or Cardosa. a season with the likes of Morton or Dumbarton would do him world of good.


11.) 01 Jul 2017 19:51:39
The boy Bates played well the other night and looks much more confident. Also provides good physical presence when we have corners and free kicks. I like the boy and think he has a big future. Unlike last season looks like we have 4 good centre backs ( and by all accounts a further 2 very promising youngsters looking to breakthrough) .


12.) 01 Jul 2017 23:41:04
How does he get experience though if he's dropped for another defender? 🤔


13.) 02 Jul 2017 02:42:12
The only player that played poor was Waghorn. Bates had a decent game. He is a young lad and will develop into a quality centre back with the help of the coach and Alves.


14.) 03 Jul 2017 10:25:51
Bates doesn't look the part at all. Know a good centre half when i see one. Last season, when we played Aberdeen, Bates played with that boy Aiden Wilson and he looked by far the better prospect. The boys clumsy, slow and unsure of himself and he did make a couple of mistakes last week troops. Better opposition will punish him.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2017 21:07:31
Are we really going to let Mckay go for a six figure sum. If Pedro really can't work with him then instead of putting the lad down and letting other managers know that they might have a problem with him or that "he just doesn't have it in him". would it not be a better idea to loan him to an English championship club n hope he plays well until January n catch the eye of a couple a managers doon there. if he plays well a club doon there might pay us a fee tae secure the transfer n get the boy in early. think this would be oor best option tae get something near his true value. no?

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1.) 01 Jul 2017 00:09:51
He's decided he wants to go and if he goes on loan till Xmas then he will be persuaded by potential suitors to see his contract out and go for free. Warburton will pay 1M before this window closes.


2.) 01 Jul 2017 00:44:25
McKay gas got quality but definitely going to trust the manager on this


3.) 01 Jul 2017 02:27:06
WWW maybe McKay can't work with the manager.


4.) 01 Jul 2017 16:37:06
Maybe he is just a lazy player with little ambition that doesn't like being tackled or have to track back. If that is the case then he will be off to Forrest!


 

 

30 Jun 2017 20:55:06
Why on earth are people sayin Holliday is some guy for getting himself aff the wage bill. he's an absolute imposter. he's hoping while he's away Pedro will get sacked and he'll be free tae swagger back in and start costing us games again. HE IS WRONG!

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{Ed039's Note - I couldn't agree more)


1.) 30 Jun 2017 22:31:30
Never will be Rangers class but knows how to play the young fans clad he's gone!


2.) 30 Jun 2017 22:39:33
The guys went on loan as he was surplus to requirements. get of the guys back . sick of everyone getting on players backs. there not good enough we know that but saying he hopes Pedro gets sacked, grow up.


3.) 01 Jul 2017 08:33:41
Not sure where you've gotten the information that Halliday wants Rangers to fail; the love he's shown for the club and the ability to see that the club is far bigger than him would suggest otherwise.


 

 

 

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01 Jul 2017 13:50:11
AT no point did i slate Bates. i like him n i love that we're bringing through our own. it was the boys first game in Europe and he did OK, could have been better in the air and distribution could have been better. I'm sure he'll continue to progress under PC but he needs time. i just think in the return Pedro will go with experience. The goal from Kenny n Nico came purely from experience it's VITAL!

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30 Jun 2017 20:35:01
Hearts don't really have anybody else that can put the kind of ball in that Walker can. if they think he won't down tools for the remainder of his contract then i'd imagine they would want to keep him and play them both together. if they click it would be worth more to them than anything we would be prepared to pay

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30 Jun 2017 20:14:30
Holliday thinks he can see oot the year over there n hope Pedro gets the sack letting him return tae start costing us games again. With regards tae Mckay i would loan him tae an English championship side n hope he catches the eye of a couple of managers doon there. Although come January he would be free tae talk tae other clubs he is still oor player n wan ae the championship clubs may well want tae pay us a decent fee tae secure the transfer n get him in early. i think this is our best option

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15 Feb 2017 11:09:17
How can u say u only get one chance at rangers and then in your very next sentence put big eck forward

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