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08 Nov 2025 21:12:01
Katic
Hagi
Dessers
Cerny

4 players that would vastly improve the team we have right now.

4 players we could easily have without any form of difficulty

We haven't hard made
Life hard for ourselves and by that I meant the fans.

Hounded out 3 of those guys.

They all walk into and improve our 11 right now.

Agree1

08 Nov 2025 21:42:02
Katic nope.
Hagi nope.
Dessers and Cerny yes.

08 Nov 2025 22:22:03
Hagi has scored a fabulous goal today from 30 yards out on Onana, former ManU goalie.
Despite of what many are saying, Hagi was badly treated by Rangers. Despite what he endured here, he never wanted to leave.

08 Nov 2025 22:35:05
Same as that mph.

08 Nov 2025 23:13:49
That's all fair enuff lads.

I gathered it would be mixed. z

But would yous not admit Katic improved our team right now?

Hagi improves team right now?

09 Nov 2025 08:46:47
Stevie how is Hagi going improve us mate?

09 Nov 2025 10:43:09
Souttar, who so many criticise, I would say is comfortably a better centre back than Katic.

Hagi, brought with him a toxic circus, that would raise its head every tenth game where he actually turned on a performance.

Dessers, personally I was never a fan and think moving him on was the right call.

Cerny, even if we could afford his salary, he had no intention of returning.

09 Nov 2025 13:44:02
I think having offers more to us than what I've seen so far from Antman or Aasgaard or even to a certain extent Gassama too.

Dessers offers more than Chermiti or Miovski or Danilo

Katic would have a better defensive record than Souttar by far we'd not be conceding as many goals and he'd have chipped in woth a few.
Being comfortable on the ball isn't what defending is about ots aboit not conceding goals, even ped ditched the goalie thing when he signed donnaruma.

It's ok saying u don't want these guys I name but they improve out 11 right now.

I remember talking with John and he said we need better than some players I had mentioned, that's fine but we didn't sign better we signed worse. Katic would be best defender at the club instantly Infact he may be best in league, ccv is that just now.
They've shown to be better than what we have.

09 Nov 2025 17:14:54
Stevie, Ccv isn't even the best cb at Celtic mate.

09 Nov 2025 18:11:24
Fair play Beale. I strongly believe Katic is exactly what we are missing right now he would compliment Souttar greatly or play him on the right where he is natiral and he would partner and compliment Cornelius.

I'd be signing Katic 1000%

And a pacey partner to play beside him. Cornelius at left back Tav at right back until the summer and upgrade on him next.

09 Nov 2025 20:55:25
Stevie I'm saying that, but that's only going on what friends that follow Celtic say, Katic is decent mate but Souttar is a better cb imo.

09 Nov 2025 21:30:50
Beale, I think everyone would be extremely surprised at just how good Katic a these days.
I know your a fan of Souttar mate, he gives away way too many aerial duels for his size for me mate.
We lose a lot of goals thru him losing or missing the n the the air. Even if it's not direct from that it's the follow up.

We need 2 new centre backs and I'd keep him as back up with Nsiala, Cornelius could also cover if emergency.

08 Nov 2025 16:29:07
I'm curious to see what people's thoughts on this are.
I've seen a few times now that we wouldn't have a club without the Americans at the helm. Do people actually believe this? Hear me out and by no means am I Saying the previous regime was perfect. They had already begun slashing the wage bill. We was second in the league and had a decent run in Europe.

Say Clement and Koppen was still in the door.
Maybe we still had to sell Igamane, Jefte and one other to balance the books, maybe even get a few free transfers in the door. Would we actually be any worse off than what we are right now? Would we not have a club to support? I for one want the Americans to do well, but I'm blowing smoke up no ones cheeks till they earn it.

Agree1

08 Nov 2025 17:06:58
Supernova, in my opinion we were operating with unsustainable losses and continually having to be propped up by soft loans.

Year on year the stadium was requiring more and more maintenance that was being delayed for as long as possible, the training facilities were falling further and further behind, and the number and quality of support staff was constantly being reduced.

I believe this is type of thing that Martin kept referring to when he was talking about people not understanding the work that needed done at the club.

Without the sale, I genuinely believe we would have entered administration.

08 Nov 2025 17:24:04
They were slashing the wage bill in a desperate attempt to stay solvent.

We would be dead.

08 Nov 2025 17:45:52
We wouldn't be dead. Rangers as a Club was an extremely attractive purchase, hence why someone as commercially astute as the 49ers took a risk on it.

If it hadn't have been the 49ers, it would have been someone else. Dave King already said he had been looking for a buyer and the Americans weren't the first conversation he had. It's in an interview he did.

We may not have had the 'expertise' from the 49ers, which seem to have done us well so far 😐 but we would still be playing football at Ibrox and called Rangers.

08 Nov 2025 17:50:06
Thanks for the Detailed response EHL, instead of Asathors terrible 'Dead' patter.
I thought they was slashing the wage bill to cut costs and to make us more appealing for a sale. Obviously u would be more in the know than me being on the inside mate.

Obviouslsy I was aware of being of us being propped up by soft loans so that's why I thought we would of had to sell Igamane and maybe Raskin, I didn't think of the money not being invested in the stadium and staff etc.

08 Nov 2025 18:08:56
AK can you please enlighten me to the queue of people lining up to buy Rangers.

Other than Mike Ashley and others linked to Mike Ashley I don't recall king mentioning anyone else.

One thing is for sure he liked the sound of his own voice and loved portraying himself as godly in the media.

08 Nov 2025 18:17:32
We needed this takeover.
Unfortunately, mistakes have been made.
Thelwell, along with others, have been really poor appointments.

08 Nov 2025 18:24:14
Asa can you please enlighten me to why you are obsessed with the dramatics. We would not have died as a club.

If you believe that the real Rangers men that were on the board before the summer would have let us "die" then I am surprised at your level of respect shown towards them.

They had kept us going and have found us a buyer to take us forward.

If the 49ers were our only option, then they should have had us over a barrel and paid a penny on the pound for the sale. Which they never.

08 Nov 2025 18:58:25
I don't think we were on the verge of administration or liquidation either but it's clear we'd been cutting costs and the board wanted out. I am glad of the takeover tho think they've botched up their start but we still made around £30m from sales and with Raskin and others still could have raised more if it had really been that desperate.

08 Nov 2025 19:09:55
Yeah I don't think we where in a good place, it was clear it wasn't sustainable with soft loans and a poor trading model so something had to change.
The dead patter tho is something Celtic fans would say.

08 Nov 2025 19:13:29
Let's hope that with our new young highly regarded coach and if we can get rid of Thelwell Purdy and Stewart and start again that by the end of the summer transfee window we see the best of what the Americans are made of.

So far I'm disappointed is an understatement.

08 Nov 2025 19:40:27
If I cut loans is why he left. He has now been repaid the vast majority

AK the men u refer to could not fund us any longer, they done their absolute best. if we had seen admin two believe me Scottish football would have put us to lowland league or worse

My understanding at the time there were two very serious bidders, 49s and a west of Scotland syndicate, led by Gibson and walker, it was a group off 4/
However when due diligence was carried out they after discussion left the field free for 49 backed consortium.

All four sold a % off their shares to assist in the sale, they believe that at that stage this was the best way forward, I understand Gibson is the third highest shareholder nowadays.

AK and others all Rangers fans should hold every board member off the past with respect because they deserve that.

Whilst I have some concerns re the new regime I believe we will see our club return to the glory days, my issue is we all want that yesterday.
Problem is I hate the phrase trust the process

Asa and others feel free to add whatever u wish,

08 Nov 2025 19:48:23
We sold over £20 million in players we would not of been anywhere near administration we would of only spent around £5million if old board was in charge.

08 Nov 2025 19:57:52
Yes John you are correct and the door was left open for the West of Scotland syndicate I believe you are close with to become a big part of the overall ownership structure. Gibson is a fantastic example of that.

One thing is the Americans were clear that this was to become a family of investors from all corners of the globe.

I agree John in terms of previous regime and I hold 99% in high regards.
As you aware I have never hidden my opinion of King but I am no less grateful for the part he played in taking us away from Green ect.

08 Nov 2025 20:03:39
Asa, I have massive respect for king, he was the Rottweiler who would not let it go.
Unfortunately the South African financial services prevented him from moving more of his family money out off the country.

08 Nov 2025 20:06:10
Completely agree on the previous regime deserving respect and taking us as far as they could John. Appreciate your info and take on the situation. Obviously it was unsustainable and decisions would have had to made if there was no buyer.


I could be wrong but I just don't believe we would not have a club to support if the Americans had not come in. We probably would of sold more players and had further cuts to make tho.

08 Nov 2025 20:19:25
Yes John I do not doubt the man loved Rangers and I respect him for what he done for the club.

I would never take that away from him.

08 Nov 2025 20:22:57
Super u r probably correct but I don't think we would have the potential to challenge for several years.

08 Nov 2025 20:44:51
I do believe without the takeover the old board would have been forced to downgraded and sell the likes of iga and Dessers but not be able to spend the 20m the 49s have it woukd have been a long slow decline.

08 Nov 2025 21:08:38
I think it would have been rapid. Walter.

09 Nov 2025 09:07:55
Year ending 23, £17m loss.

Year ending 24, £17m loss.

Year ending 25, £500k profit.

The takeover, and the £20m investment, saved us.

09 Nov 2025 11:17:00
So what your saying EHL is we started to turn a profit? 🤣
Some more sales and some free transfers and that could be the second year.
The long term rot to the stadium etc and staff may have still continued tho.

09 Nov 2025 13:30:04
Lol, the opposite SuperNovo, if we didn't get the £20m injection our losses would have been greater than £17m last year.

09 Nov 2025 13:37:20
Ah my bad EHL.
I didn't realise that Included the injection from the Americans.

09 Nov 2025 13:45:30
Supernovo u made an arse. A that haha.

09 Nov 2025 14:04:31
Your right Stevie! that's why the wife is in charge of the money 😅.

09 Nov 2025 15:04:48
Hahaha not worries there bro 👍🏻😂.

08 Nov 2025 14:08:48
Jan wish list

CM - big imposing angry man with experience. Sit in front of defence like a guardian. Able to use ball decent enough.

ST - Older, clever, sneaky and proven. Solid all-rounder.

CB - Dominating, ugly and fierce. A big unit X2

LB - Defence focused, hardy and experienced.

CAM - A Maverick with a nasty side. Tall, awkward and imposing but with a touch of flair.

Anyone got a spare 20/30 million and I'll make it happen?

Agree4

08 Nov 2025 19:41:22
Arcade I actually believe hard cash is not the issue it's financial rules.

08 Nov 2025 20:47:25
John i think your are correct and for thst reason Raskin may be sold in jan to allow money to be reinvested. The problem is whos doing the reinvesting.

08 Nov 2025 21:35:29
John and Asa,
A very interesting read and prospective on things from both of you.
I for one have lots of respect for the previous owners.
Rangers men that put a lot of their time and money into our club.
It was getting stagnant and although I have reservations about the new owners, Cavanagh seems to take a real interest in how things are going which gives me hope.


I wish them all the success in the world, I'm not sure they will even imagine the love and support they will get if they get it right.

08 Nov 2025 11:37:46
Didi Hamann has suggested that it could be a great learning curve for young Barcelona players to go to Rangers do you think that we could see Danny Rohl use his connections at Barcelona to make this happen.

Agree0

08 Nov 2025 12:20:51
He's very well regarded in Germany too so hopefully ha has a few things in the pipeline. Not keen on going down the loan root again but perhaps needs must in January as long as they are much better than those we have brought in so far.

08 Nov 2025 14:02:05
Unless some of our loan players are returned we only have one loan space available.

08 Nov 2025 14:12:25
There might be a kid called yamal who mabye could do us a turn, but not sure he's better than what we have.

08 Nov 2025 16:16:09
Can Stand him he's another neymar.

08 Nov 2025 16:46:27
Would depend if we had to guarantee minutes 🤩🤩🤩.

08 Nov 2025 16:47:04
That's just the dwarf thing eh fork, let it go, I had three round last night, great wee fellows, just trying to earn a living, only had to pay for two though, shota junior had strapped one to a rocket, god knows where he ended up.

08 Nov 2025 17:17:26
Lol bonkers mate👍🤣.

08 Nov 2025 18:01:00
Shota unfortunately for him he landed in my back garden when my dog was there in foul mood. He ""was" a nice we fella as well. His funeral is on Thursday.

08 Nov 2025 11:34:28
Everyone knows Martin was the wrong choice of manager but it's obvious now to see it wasn't just his fault as the players weren't/aren't good enough. I don't know how we can be in a bigger mess when we have money as opposed to the last couple of years with no money.

Agree1

08 Nov 2025 11:46:53
Strøm I truly believe we have a strong enough squad to comfortably challenge.

Danny Röhl has barely had anytime on the training pitch and already there has been a marked difference.

08 Nov 2025 12:25:26
Not sure about challenging but looking at the next run of fixtures and with the break ahead I agree Asa we'll continue to see a difference under Rohl. A good run starts tomorrow.

08 Nov 2025 11:07:53
BB4 my thoughts go out to you my friend.

We all have our struggles and we should all help each other out.

I pray Thor lends you his strength and mother Frigga soothes your pain so that you emerge from the darkness stronger than you were before.

❤️⚔️.

Agree2

 


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