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05 Apr 2026 18:38:38
StrΓΈm so this does not get lost in the pages.

At no point have I had a dig at you.

I apologize for my light mannered joke it was said with malicious intent.

I respect you to much for that nonsense.

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05 Apr 2026 18:47:02
I was only asking, mate, that's all. Don't worry about it, mate. πŸ‘

05 Apr 2026 18:54:47
That should read it was not said with malicious intent.

Strom, I appreciate your understanding.

05 Apr 2026 21:20:50
No probs mate πŸ‘. Were there no Brann games this weekend?

05 Apr 2026 21:30:08
We play tomorrow, my friend.

05 Apr 2026 22:54:58
Good luck get the 3 points. πŸ‘

06 Apr 2026 08:30:02
Thank you, my friend.

05 Apr 2026 17:42:38
I am sorry but some of these posts are getting quite far.

It is fair to criticize a player, but I have been called out numerous times because of s players bad performance.

I am not personally responsible for any players form.

That being said I can't quite get my head around is the figures and that some favourites seem to be immune from any sort of criticism.

Skov Olsen has not been up to the required standard, i offered zero defence of his performance yesterday yet was still called out.

Now as people know i do like stats so I will use some more.

Andreas Skov Olsen - 8 matches 5 goal involvements. Struggling for confidence, January signing

Fan opinion - waste of a shirt, wouldn't spend Β£1 million, send back.

Mikey Moore - 41 matches 9 goal involvements. Full of confidence and has played full season

Fan opinion - superstar, first name on the team sheet, let's spend Β£20 million.

Now forgive me but it really appears to be just a general dislike towards Skov Olsen.

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05 Apr 2026 18:22:28
Maybe people don't like him because he's just not good enough, shows no effort, and maybe because we were stats and what he did years ago 2 justified him been at Rangers.

05 Apr 2026 18:26:19
Aphelion, Yes, a great assist yesterday trying to score, we can all see he wasn't even interested in being on that park yesterday, you really think he's going be worth forking out close to 15m?
One other thing, how can you be held responsible for anyone?
It's not a dislike, but that must only be your thinking.

He turned up, nobody would be talking about him. It really looks like he just couldn't care. Well, imho, hopefully you don't see that as any form of dig at you.

05 Apr 2026 18:30:16
No dig at me star. Where are you getting the Β£15 million figures?

It's nowhere near that, even in Euros, never mind pounds.

But, as usual, don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

05 Apr 2026 18:35:48
Star, I have taken the decision to 'ignore' you.
I know I will enjoy the site more.

Now can you please do the same and we can do the site a kindness together

05 Apr 2026 18:43:46
Very good, Aphelion, can't be bothered with your nonsense, 15m including salary.

05 Apr 2026 18:45:03
You stopped me from looking, you've down me a turn. 🍻

05 Apr 2026 18:45:03
Wages and 8 mill to Wolfsburg plus signing on fee comes close 2 those numbers. And, for clarity, I was over the moon when we got him. I don't mind a player not having a great few games if you can see at least he's trying.

Olson doesn't even look like he wants to be here, you can't defend that. Effort and heart shouldn't need trained into you especially at Rangers.

05 Apr 2026 18:49:10
I am the same, Aphe. Much better site for me when I don't bother with him. He even named me in a post the day when he said he wouldn't. He can't help himself. Just best ignore him. πŸ‘Œ

05 Apr 2026 18:50:49
Penny, he is clearly showing enough effort and heart in training for the manager to select him.

05 Apr 2026 18:58:02
Aph, aside from any personal disputes with some, I think the appeared lack of effort is the big difference. Fans take to Moore more because even though young he looks like he cares. And the stats u speak illustrate what I said yesterday about Assist stats not reflecting performance.

Yesterday Skov added another assist to his record, and yet u still described his performance as indefensible, so stats aren't the important thing even to yourself.

05 Apr 2026 19:05:51
It's not about what he does on the training pitch. It's about what he does on game day. How many games has he been hooked off and, like yesterday, we offered more with him off the pitch attacking-wise. You say you're a Stat guy, that numbers don't lie.

Yet when posters were saying about the young lad from Motherwell and used his stats, you said he was a one season wonder. So if the numbers don't lie, how can you dismiss those stats but use Olson's stats as to why we should pay 8 million pounds.

05 Apr 2026 19:07:58
Storm, Can I ask why you kept on referring to me in some way or other when you knew I couldn't respond to you? Same when you were posting about users on live chat. Can see you must be the type of person that must enjoy talking about people when they see or hear nothing.


Why you got asked to block me. No chance am I blocking you again and being unable to respond. Aphelion is now blocked.
Hopefully you reconsider, and we block each other now.

05 Apr 2026 19:12:14
Kaiser, stats are important to me, but I will explain what I am attempting to illustrate.

Yesterday I offered no defence because he played very poor.

What I am illustrating is that, whilst in a poor run of form, he is still contributing with the most important metric on a football field. Goals.

Whereas the other player mentioned is in good form and yet does not seem to offer as much contribution to the scoreline.



So my mind works on this way.

If Skov Olsen can rediscover the form which fans desire, and he desires, he will inevitably increase his net contribution.

Whereas Moore does not contribute as much in terms of goal contributions, when he inevitably goes through a period of poor form and confidence, I have concluded that he would likely contribute even less.

05 Apr 2026 19:15:42
Penny, are you really asking that question?

How can I dismiss a player stat as potentially a one season wonder?

Quite simple.

He has only performed to that standard over 1 season or less.

Until that changes, then I am correct to see someone as having the potential to be a one season wonder.

05 Apr 2026 19:21:14
But his stats are brilliant, so you only use them when it suits you. Number don't lie is your quote, not mine.

05 Apr 2026 19:27:00
Aphelion, I like some of the stuff you post. But for you to constantly use stats 2 back up your claims, for example the young German keepers, you were using stats after stats. How many seasons have they done this? 1 season in a low level league. But, in the same sentence, stats don't count in Scotland, as you say they don't matter. πŸ€”

05 Apr 2026 19:29:44
I know, mate, was just showing at the same time someone can have assists, yet his performances be indefensible. Moore stats may also need to be better, but the main difference is looking like they care.

05 Apr 2026 19:30:57
Well, Ernst has 3 seasons as number 1.

Why don't you do a little research?

Stats in Scotland do count.

Maswanhise has performed admirably for the past 9 months. I would never criticize that.

You say low level league? Still a league ranked 14 places higher than the SPFL.

05 Apr 2026 19:35:04
I can see in his frustration and upset that he does care, Kaiser.

It is all perception and interpretation.

I would rather have someone contributing to the scoreline than just looking like they care and saying all the correct words in interviews.



Personally, I would support any player in poor form and confidence, especially if they are still giving a positive contribution to the scoreline whilst being in this slump.

05 Apr 2026 19:36:07
Yes strΓΈm i appreciate real discussion and debate not fact in my eye nonsense.

Well the deed is done as they say. The edds function is a great tool

05 Apr 2026 19:46:19
Maybe Olson should go 2 Norway then since it's such a good league? Yes, first team player is his first standout season, so maybe I did look up at his stats.

05 Apr 2026 19:47:32
Moore always looks to be positive. Olsen passes back all time very negative player. Don't know any Rangers fan who thinks he's been good or even had 1 decent game. Didn't want to be on the park yesterday as John and others have mentioned. Would be an embarrassment from the club throwing 8 mill and a player like this.

05 Apr 2026 20:07:52
Moore brings us far more than Olsen. More energy and drive in his game. Olsen, yesterday, looked like he couldn't give a toss. I've always said he needs more time, but if he can't be arsed himself, what is the point? He could very well be low on confidence in his game, fair play, but go cover the yards instead of looking like you can't be arsed.

I mentioned he'd be around 15m earlier, that was salary included. We can't sign him on current showing, he'd really need to be MOTM in at least four remaining games.

05 Apr 2026 20:16:06
Aph, how can us fans dislike him, we don't even know him to like/dislike him, all we see is what he does on the football field, which, till date, hasn't been good enough.

To compare him to Mikey Moore is just wrong in so many ways.
One is a boy just turned 18 yesterday, who constantly tries to beat his man nearly every time he gets the ball, he gets bums of seats with his trickery, you feel the energy of the stadium changing when he gets the ball, carries us up the park constantly, he absolutely works his socks off every single game. A young man who will get better and better.

The other is an experienced internationalist, who us fans had huge hope for before he came.

He's got a good return for assists, but imo looks like he would rather be anywhere else than on the field, very rarely attempts to beat his man, seems like his first thought is to pass back the way, very frustrating so far.
I have to agree with Kaiser that stats aren't anywhere near the full picture, as watching Moore/Olsen is like watching two players worlds apart at this time. I'm still willing to give the boy time, but it's running out fast for him, if he doesn't perform from now till end of season it would be wrong to sign someone for that much money on current evidence.

05 Apr 2026 21:28:40
Boy blue, he got an assist yesterday with an effort on goal. Why I understand what a poster was saying the other day, it wasn't one of the regulars or I'd remember, normally find it's another player doing the damage before the assist.

05 Apr 2026 22:33:05
Aph, u say how Skov could regain form and contribute more whereas Moore is likely to contribute even less. Is it not more likely that, as a young player who is only learning and developing, he is more likely to improve his contribution the more he develops? In fact, isn't that part of the excitement of seeing young players breaking through?

05 Apr 2026 22:45:42
You are correct, Kaiser.

I am in no way belittling Moore, I was merely pointing out the inconsistency in the way players are treated.

If they are a favourite, they can do no wrong.
If they are not, then they can do no right.

05 Apr 2026 22:46:28
Mystar I have told you I ain't blocking anyone. I didn't know you blocked me how would I know that? So please don't use my name in anything or respond to me.

05 Apr 2026 22:25:15
Olsen just does not want the ball and does not even attempt to take on a defender, to compare him to Moore is just ridiculous, there is no comparison whatsoever. Bone idle.

05 Apr 2026 23:01:35
Cool Storm, love no correspondence, you must have known when I couldn't reply, as I said I'm cool with that now anyway.

06 Apr 2026 07:29:56
In the same way u give more time to him because he is someone u like. They don't just start off as a fan favourite tho. They need to do something to become that. In fact, Skov came in with far more positivity and excitement as someone we've liked and wanted for years, and people said we'd won the window signing him, to now even u saying u can't defend his performances.

So, nothing to do with liking some but not others. Your new Norwegian Aasgaard performed, though not a favourite, and got credit, for example.

06 Apr 2026 12:23:45
Fans have fallen out many a times regarding players. Managers have lost many a job because of a player. I'm not a stats person (used to be), but they are easily manipulated to suit individuals' narrative to create a for or against. Personally, I think we are a maintaining club for him.

Keep him playing, keep him fit, and if he can help get us over the line, great. Long term solution, doesn't want to be here and we shouldn't sign him.

If he is asked, does he want to be here, he will obviously say yes. He ain't that daft.

06 Apr 2026 13:11:32
Aph, in my opinion, you're wrong. Skov Olsen came in with a high pedigree, but he's just not shown it in games. He's meant to be a winger, so go past your man. Comparison with Moore is night and day. Moore gets the ball, drives at defenders, and makes opportunities. Skov, the majority of the time, when he gets the ball, plays the easy pass back. It's not about hate or dislike to Skov, but we all watch it week in, week out.

Maybe we're expecting too much from him, but if he's that good a player why are Wolfsburg wanting to get rid of him? Maybe it's confidence. Can't really blame him not playing, as he's had loads of game time with us. Yes, it takes time for players to settle, but, expectation to reality and what we have currently seen, he's not up to standard. Nothing to do with disliking him.

06 Apr 2026 14:22:07
Olsen is 8 years older than Moore, yet he's not even half the player that he is. Might be the most disappointed I've ever been in a signing given the hype. Think you've misrepresented his numbers as well, is it not 10 appearances, 1 goal, 3 assists?

06 Apr 2026 14:29:04
Olsen is not disliked as a person, why would he be? Most just see him as a waste of a shirt and a loafer, and it appears so does his previous club, or he wouldn't be here.

Took a risk on him, that's fair, but it failed miserably. Anyway, another thread ruined.

My star, I enjoy your posts, can't always agree but stick with it bud and ignore the attacks.

05 Apr 2026 17:16:41
Rangers or Celtic will win it we have it in our grasp win every game we win the league it's that simple although it will be hard to do.

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05 Apr 2026 16:04:15
Ohh Well that was a nice 23 hours sitting top of the league but unfortunately Hearts have just drawn 2 each with Livi, so they go back on top by 1 point.

Come on Dundee make us all have a very happy Easter and get 3 points for the baby Jesus and the Easter eggs. Sharkhead is needing a right good protest and no better time than Easter and the bank holiday Monday is a perfect time for flying fences and sharks.

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05 Apr 2026 17:04:33
Three Cheers - Fingers crossed but not looking good so far.

So what did you think of our new signings (well the 2 of them you saw)?

05 Apr 2026 17:31:30
There was 3, Athole, and the striker (whose name I forget, I think it began with an N) looks good, with good awareness, always following things up in the box, hence getting the 1st goal from a goalie error.

The Chukiwooki guy also looked decent, comfortable on the ball, and getting stuck in.

The Olsen fella looked rotten, and my sister's observations of him were spot on. Getting hooked at half time yet again says it all.

The only positive from his performance was a jammy assist for big Sterlings goal as he duffed his header at goal, and luckily fell nice onto the big man's head.

Looking forward to seeing the left back in action soon, hopefully, and the striker when fully fit, as big Chermiti can not be relied on to score us goals, as he proved yet again when is through on goal he always his the keeper rather than the corner of the goal.

05 Apr 2026 19:06:32
Three Cheers, a positive weekend. We narrow the gap from three points to one.

Still a three horse race.

05 Apr 2026 19:28:05
Yeah, would have been nice to still be top, but we still made up 2 points and closed to one.

05 Apr 2026 19:30:19
Absolutely John, 3 points for the Gers was all that mattered.
Hearts dropping 2 points is an added bonus.

In all honesty, I can see all 3 of us dropping points along the way, but at least we have the most exciting finish to a season we have all seen in a very long time.

I can see the title being decided on the last game of the season and we will emerge victorious and be crowned champions.
I remember being at Ibrox years ago when we won it on the last day by one goal against Dunfermline. Pure magic. Something similar to that would be very nice.

05 Apr 2026 21:30:39
Not according to some John, as they think we will beat Celtic easy.

05 Apr 2026 22:41:12
Yet to see a poster saying Celtic don't have a good chance, Rangers are a better team, and coming into form. I would be surprised if we lose against them at Celtic Park, we all know anything can happen.

That last cup game we created rakes of chance and can't be that unlucky again, they created none even in extra time. Win five, we could even afford a draw against them.

06 Apr 2026 08:47:31
Think I'll go Salmon Fishing in Yemen, get more peace in a war zone. πŸ˜‡

{Ed001's Note - that is true, it is a lot more peaceful here than on this site!}

06 Apr 2026 11:12:33
Should introduce a bombed out feature, throw a wee πŸ’£ at the poster n put them in a sin bin for 10 minutes. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‡

06 Apr 2026 14:32:21
Key is the away game at Giro Dome. Win that and we are favourites. Gorgie sour faces will crumble there.

Forecast fixtures yourself, I think you will be encouraged.

05 Apr 2026 13:47:16
What's everyone's thoughts on Scov Olsen. We have been after him what seems like years and now that he's been here a few months he's been poor. I know he wasn't getting game time at Wolfsburg but surely he must have more in his locker.

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05 Apr 2026 14:53:16
He has performed well below par.

I am told that the club are very happy with his effort and dedication in training, but he remains very low in confidence.

My personal opinion on the boy is known and well documented, Robbie.

It may be best I don't say too much or I will be accused of being his father. πŸ˜‰

05 Apr 2026 15:00:12
It looks pretty obvious as to why he wasn't getting a game for Wolfsbug, as he is clearly not very good anymore and looks disinterested. If the rumours are true that we have an obligation to buy him if we win the league, then whoever negotiated that deal clearly needs to brush up on their negotiation skills.

We could be left with an 8 million quid player on very high wages, who would be very happy to contribute very little to nothing.


It's strange, as he was obviously a great player for Brugge and Denmark, hence why he has 40 odd caps and a multi million pound deal to Wolfsburg. It's not exactly going to be a culture shock moving from Belgium to Germany, so it seems strange why his form has dropped off a cliff in the past few years. Fingers crossed, he comes good, but all the evidence is pointing the other way, unfortunately.

05 Apr 2026 15:03:09
He's adopted the rugby player rules. Can only pass backwards.

05 Apr 2026 15:03:19
Aphe, that's your opinion, mate, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If people have a problem with that, they ain't worth bothering about, mate. Your input on here is fantastic, keep being you my friend. πŸ‘

05 Apr 2026 15:06:10
On performances, it's a no from me, but wish him luck in the future. Even with limited game time prior, he's had enough game time with us and just not shown required standard.

05 Apr 2026 15:55:18
It looks worse than confidence, Aphelion. He looked like he didn't want to be on the park yesterday, something Bigbluejim said a while ago good be ringing true, hopefully not and he does step up.


Three Cheers, he's missed around 40 games since 2023 through injury, mate, but he needs to step up drastically or we can't be paying over 40k in wages and 7/8m for signing him.

05 Apr 2026 16:10:11
Tend to agree, Sky, did not want to be out there.

05 Apr 2026 16:15:38
Star, what you are defining is a serious lack of confidence, a player playing within his shell.

05 Apr 2026 16:29:52
Aphelion, a player looking like he didn't want near that park, says it far more than confidence to me. Low in confidence? Well, you put the work and dig in then, he did nothing, except got an assist when trying to score. Is he only seeing the game as a job now? Because it very much looked like it yesterday.

05 Apr 2026 16:43:39
Again misquoting to have a dig.

05 Apr 2026 17:10:47
Aph, genuine question.

Do you think it is only a confidence problem?

To me it looks like there's more there. I wouldn't ever speculate as to what someone's mental health is like, but I'm seriously thinking he needs time away from the game to decide what he wants to do (for his own good).



The frustrating thing is, I don't think there were many (if any) dissenting voices when we signed him. There's a player in there somewhere, but I just can't see it.

05 Apr 2026 17:23:47
Aphelion, digs? I've only given my opinion on a player. This is getting a bit much. Sometimes I can't be bothered looking on. I will not be replying if you can't accept my opinion on the player a poster asked for opinions.

05 Apr 2026 17:29:07
Is he only seeing the game as a job now? Because it very much looked like it yesterday.


You asked me a question whilst having a dig at a misquote that is used as a rod to beat him with.

Ignore me if you wish.

05 Apr 2026 17:46:53
Aphelion, how is that a dig fgs, unbelievable, I said is he only seeing it as a job now, so what are you telling me, you saying that is me having a dig at you? 😳😳😳 You please ignore me.

05 Apr 2026 17:54:30
Athole, genuinely I feel it is.

He was in the form of his life before Wolfsburg.

He started positively at Wolfsburg, but then got injured.

When he returned from injury, the manager had completely changed shape to accommodate Christian Eriksen.



He suffered the same fate as Vaclav Cerny.

He is a confidence player who has been open about his vulnerabilities before, during the same interview, which is misquoted time and time again on this forum.

05 Apr 2026 17:57:04
I was thinking that myself, star, because at no point in your post do you even come close to having a dig. I would suggest you read his post again, Aphe, because you have clearly misread it and came to the wrong conclusion.

05 Apr 2026 18:02:32
Three Cheers, I have not misread anything.

The quote I referred to is a misquote.

He has used that falsehood to have continual digs at Skov Olsen since even before we confirmed his signing.

At no point did I say the dig was aimed at me.

05 Apr 2026 18:00:00
Aphe is that a dig at me? No need whatsoever and will be remembered. He had been rank rotten and its completely irrelevant what he does in training to the fans as they want to see where it matters on the pitch

05 Apr 2026 18:03:49
What are you even talking about now, Aphelion? If you feel my post was a dig at you in the slightest you really need to get a grip of yourself, please explain how that is a dig at anyone? I'm giving you make take on a player, maybe you should do like you've told others, 'Ignore' away, it's getting very boring now, sometimes i can't even be bothered looking on.

πŸ˜”

05 Apr 2026 17:51:56
I never said you were having a dig at me. Do I need to give a full explanation to spell it to you.

The quote "only seeing it as a job".

Is from a direct misquote of an interview he gave whilst at Brugge.
That misquote was by a member of the forum.

You have used that misquote therefore that falsehood to have continual digs at Skov Olsen since before he was confirmed.

You were willing him to fail. You wanted to be correct in your viewpoint.

As is known you have backed every failure that played for the club so it is only natural you will want to be correct at calling this one as a failure.

05 Apr 2026 18:14:15
Strom, remember what you wish.

I was making a lighthearted joke about what you said to a poster yesterday. Was not a dig in the slightest.

Star, how many times do I have to say this.

I at no point felt or said you were having a dig at me.

Do you understand that simple sentence?

05 Apr 2026 18:15:54
Aphelion, before signing? I have always said give him more time, so you're talking about before he was a Rangers player, no need for any of that, I'm talking about now in a Rangers strip, he never even looked like he was even wanting to be on that park yesterday, got me thinking, is he only seeing it as a job? You can be extremely low in confidence with your football, but, first things first, you work your arse off, but he shows zero of that.

05 Apr 2026 18:19:24
You name me having one dig at him when a Rangers player, except today, because you can't. The reason I'm questioning it now is because a player that can't be arsed isn't worth nearly 15m.

05 Apr 2026 18:24:01
Waaw your taking the nip because a poster is having an opinion on a loan player who is rotten. OK up to you. Sorry i read it wrong.
I'm awfully glad that i have never had such affection for a rubbish loan player and getting my feelings hurt when they deservedly get criticised.

05 Apr 2026 18:34:01
Three Cheers, I questioned the dig over falsehoods.

Criticize the player if you want. As you said, rightfully criticized.

I take exception to the creation of lies just to make a point.

I am awfully glad I am not someone who finds it acceptable to lie just to have a dig about a player.

06 Apr 2026 06:32:30
Guys, don't you know Aph is always right, if you don't agree with him, he reverts to people are having a go at him.
All very boring. If you throw out enough stats, etc. you will eventually get something right.
As to Olsen, total waste of space & money, let's hope someone in authority realises this before it is too late.

04 Apr 2026 20:26:37
Most important today 3pts
Achieved
A just don't get what all the bickering is about we are all gers men here an none o us have never made a mistake in our line of work give the players a wee rest boys

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04 Apr 2026 22:09:47
Well said. It seems that sometimes with age comes sense. πŸ‘

04 Apr 2026 22:14:13
Good post.

05 Apr 2026 04:26:06
Agree, mate, would I have liked a few players to play better, of course, but at this stage it's all about 3 points surely?

05 Apr 2026 12:17:31
Only thing I've ever agreed with Steve Clarke on is fans have changed, not for the better, I'd say. Only thing I'd say in fans' defence is we pay a lot of money to support them, and effort and fight has to be a minimum.

Aasgaard is the most frustrating, as he has all the tools, just lacks the go and energy required in this league, but I still think he could be a world class player if he can find it.

04 Apr 2026 19:28:20
My last post was supposed to say seeing not seen.

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