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03 Nov 2015 16:28:53
SPFL News Now
Rangers edging closer to Administration according to some inside reports. more to come on this.

WTF is this about? sounds like a wind up to me.


1.) 03 Nov 2015 16:54:04
Did Dave king not issue a statement saying soft loans from the other board members would keep the club going?

im thinking they are trying to get as much info as possible to null and void all commitments. and all these stupid admin rumors and ashley wants king jailed is just ashley knowing time is up.


2.) 03 Nov 2015 22:39:03
Theblueman i'm with you on this one mate, there is no chance of a second admin.


3.) 03 Nov 2015 23:49:39
Am I correct in thinking if charles green is found guilty of fraud in the rangers takeover, then surely the sports direct contract along with the puma contract will be deemed null and void as it was green who done these deals with mike ashley?

that would then allow dave king to ditch sports direct and puma and would be free to negotiate a new deal with another merchandise partner along with securing a new kit manufacturer that will get the club a far greater income on shirt sales that would be far more beneficial to us.


4.) 04 Nov 2015 08:46:11
Its looking like ashley has started to play his last cards.

I bet whyte has opened a can of worms and green has blabbed aswell
king will keep schtum and on the right side until the last bit of wind from these crooks!

Everybody has/must keep faith as this still is a long road to recovery.

king and the board and the rest of the silent partners won't let rangers slip again and all the nonsense rumors. from the soap dodgers as they have nothing worth talking about.

Watp!


5.) 04 Nov 2015 08:27:12
I agree with warburtonthe15, and no chance of admin 2 despite timmy's prayers.


6.) 04 Nov 2015 08:40:42
King is out his depth with Ashley. Different league all together. Has Ashley had dealings with king in the past because this seems very very personal.


7.) 04 Nov 2015 16:30:29
Martybhoy I think you've got it the wrong way round, I think Ashley has more than met his match in Dave king, and Ashley knows it. it doesn't matter that Ashley has more money, after all it's not about wealth, it's about the laws of the land, and I think Ashley has broken a few. he knows it, we know it and after the court case Ashley will fold like a bad hand in poker. his latest threats are just that threats, let's get it into a court room let's see who has the best hand, until then all this guessing is causing no panic to us bears.


8.) 05 Nov 2015 08:58:45
Anybody who believes that Ashley has met his match in King is in for a very nasty surprise. Ashley could pull the plug on us at any moment he pleases by calling in his £5m loan. The new board have been in place for 7 months, if there was anything untoward about the SD contracts don't you think they'd have done something by now?


9.) 05 Nov 2015 12:29:02
A, how would we fold for 5mil?
B, he already tried to call in the loan, king chased him!
C, stop using the word "US" you don't fool anyone, felt maybe yourself?


10.) 05 Nov 2015 13:07:14
Ashley can't pull in the loan - it was negotiated in a previous administration to potentially gain control of trademarks and strengthen retail position - sure Ashley is a uber-wealthy, brutal businessman but if he held all the leverage would he (a) request Rangers shareholders to vote to repay the loan and (b) send undercover bailiffs to serve DK with breaking anti-gagging suit - NOPE this is not behavior of someone holding all the leverage - Board is right to delay share issue and fund short term via soft loans - all the current court cases need to run there course and then possibly a public offering - what will a public offering be anyway - it will be underwritten by T3B and DK - what's the difference.


11.) 05 Nov 2015 13:56:25
Iain - of course we have to repay the loan. The loan was agreed with RIFC regardless of who was on the board at the time. MA can go to court to get the monies owed to him and as we can't afford to repay him as we already require loans to complete the season we will be forced into administration. I do like the way you think that it was the board's decision to delay the share issue as if they had a choice. Tomtom - because you don't agree with me you reckon I'm not a fan - is that the case?


12.) 05 Nov 2015 18:58:42
ABHABH1, there is no date for said loan to be paid back, it's like lending your mate a score and telling him to pay you back when he can afford to, I often wonder how Ashley made his money, when he is thick enough to give out loans on the never never, very clever chap indeed, I don't think so.


13.) 05 Nov 2015 19:56:28
Billy are you serious? Check the conditions of the loan. Ashley holds all the cards. He is a very clever chap. Next week could be pivotal. If CG wins his claim on legal expenses I wouldn't be surprised if MA goes to court to ring fence the money he's owed.


14.) 05 Nov 2015 23:02:58
Abhabh1, we will find out soon enough eh, oh are you on the right club pages, none of your posts over the last couple of years have convinced me you are a bear, I think you kick with the other foot honestly.


15.) 06 Nov 2015 07:31:06
Editor - Why are there so many non-bears posting of this site?

Celtic continue to struggle in Europe - Dundee Utd reaping their reward for taking advantage of smaller clubs and selling on to Celtic etc.

Football ambition in Scotland is Zero - let just knock Rangers when they are down!

{Ed001's Note - what on earth has that to do with anything? This is not a Rangers fans only site, if you want that go to one, there are loads of those out there. This is part of a family of sites for all to use to talk about particular subjects, in this case Rangers.}


16.) 06 Nov 2015 08:09:40
Thanks Ed - made that crystal clear.

{Ed001's Note - no worries, I was trying to make it clear, we don't want to become like all the Rangers fans only sites (or any other one club sites for that matter). There are hundreds of them out there to choose from. This started from a site to discuss all clubs initially, and the mix of different fans is what made it interesting. Well at times anyway. Some times other fans can just be annoying, but a lot of the time it is good to get a different perspective on your own club.}


17.) 06 Nov 2015 07:24:01
Billy I'm assuming that because I don't blindly follow Dave King like you that you don't think I'm a fan. Excuse me for being a realist and seeing the absolute dire situation that we are in. But if it suits you to ignore all that and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of 'kicking with the other foot' (whatever that means) then by all means fire ahead.


18.) 06 Nov 2015 21:59:27
Abhabh1, how do you know the courts will not find green etc. guilty and that COULD rope Ashley and them all as illegal in there movement, i'm just puzzled as of, how you seem to think you know all about everything, kindly explain?


19.) 06 Nov 2015 23:41:08
Billy - I suppose that is a possibility. However there is no outcome of the case that is favourable for us.


20.) 07 Nov 2015 18:16:54
Ed - agree it's good to get other clubs fans perspectives. Problem is most of them are filled with petty vindictive wind up nonsense. But I suppose it's good to know that.

Sensible debate seems to be dead, shame as our game desperately needs it.

In terms of Ashley, I think our only hope is that his dealings with the club get drawn into the on going fraud case. Otherwise we are in a deep hole. Have we even handed in our 7 years notice yet?

It became personal when King got Ashley men kicked off the board. Ashley is ruthless and will be very unhappy at being (temporarily) out manoeuvred.


21.) 07 Nov 2015 16:10:49
Abhabh1 again I must ask, how do you know that the court case won't go in our favour big time, if the accused are found to have committed fraud (which I think is a cert) then every deed carried out could be deemed illegal, it would not be the club that was held to account, it would be the people that committed the fraud, they couldn't blame the club that's like the court jailing me for a crime my brother committed in another country, through association.


22.) 07 Nov 2015 21:42:39
Reading you lot on mike ashley 5 million loan. dave king has said he not paying it as in 1 lump sum. contract was agreed an all we have to do is pay agreed installments. all of this does need played out in court room but before it gets there i reckon ashley will say all deals off as long as dave king doesn't say anything about deals but hope king says no the courts will settle it so all can be played out to the press.


23.) 08 Nov 2015 11:58:09
Billy - again there is no outcome of this case that is favourable for us. If the assets were deemed to have been acquired fraudulently then they will be returned to the seller which is now BDO. They will sell to the highest bidder. All we will have is a team with no name with nowhere to play and debts of over 10 million pounds.


 

 

 

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18 Apr 2018 07:51:59
I notice quite a few posts having a go at Murty along the lines of the problem should have stayed in the dressing room.
Was it Murty who released the information of what went on to the media?
As for Miller - Once again his name appears alongside trouble inside dressing room and undermining of another manager. Wonder why that is?


1.) 18 Apr 2018 08:08:31
Miller passionately cares about the club unlike some of the imposters that disgraced the jersey on Sunday. Both Miller and Wallace have been made scapegoats for a quite shocking performance. Everyone saw what Halliday said to Murty why was he not suspended?


2.) 18 Apr 2018 08:10:52
100% correct ArthurD🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


3.) 18 Apr 2018 09:31:28
The treatment of Halliday was unforgivable I've no idea why he started the game other than to stop Brown but from the off you could see the set up was wrong but to sub him with three minutes to go is a disgrace having a player walk of that pitch with the Celtic fans laughing at him why not wait to half time three mins what difference would it have made, it's obvious this team do not believe in Murty it's been one mistake after another by this board we are heading for our fourth manager since we came back up, we have five games to try and get second but with Murty in charge it's going to be a hard task, there is no confidence in this team right from the back to the front our defence is a complete shambles we are the top scoring team in the league three more than Celtic but we are fifth in goals conceded Martin is terrible Alvis not much better McCrorie is a better midfield player than a defender until they sort out the defence we will go nowhere, this board need to be more open if they want to sell season tickets have we a kit deal? is there investment Miller and Wallace will not play again then we have Dodo, Ohalloran, and a few others who need to be moved on Goss back to QPR Cummings would you pay £1mill for him not me, so we need maybe half a dozen players just to get squad back up to size and hopefully a new manager and then if we do and it's a big if we qualify for Europe we are back playing qualifiers in June that's only about ten weeks away, have we moved forward well I'll leave that open


 

 

09 Apr 2018 15:41:58
I have never liked nor trusted DK. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but is this not the same statement he made at the beginning of THIS season when HE appointed Pedro?
HE is vowing to back a new boss with funds. how much is HE going to put into the pot considering he has stated in court that he has no funds?
STV Sport -
Rangers chairman Dave King has said the club's priority is to appoint a permanent manager who can deliver "immediate success" for the club and vowed to back the boss with funds for a "sustained challenge".


1.) 09 Apr 2018 16:18:47
To be fair though he did deliver the funds


2.) 09 Apr 2018 17:22:12
Password, HE did not appoint pedro.


3.) 09 Apr 2018 17:27:11
And Pedro wasn't his choice, it was the 3 bears was it not?


4.) 09 Apr 2018 18:55:40
At the end of the day, the board of Rangers FC appointed Pedro? An unknown waste of space with no knowledge of any football and a wind bag! It still disgusts me that man was placed in charge of our great club and allowed to spend good cash and I wait in a baited breath for their next appointment! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


5.) 09 Apr 2018 19:02:59
he never said he had no funds, he said they were tied up in family trusts


6.) 09 Apr 2018 20:16:41
have to laugh at the people on here wanting to have a go at king i was and i no most other bears were shocked at the amount pedro was given to spend last summer. wasnt kings fault it was given to a clueless mug. if king says there is funds for players i for 1 back and believe him.


7.) 09 Apr 2018 21:52:04
Who cares if you trust him he’s 100 per cent more trustworthy than Ashley who like white is an asset stripper and has no real love for any football club . Dave king took over the mess from the fat man said at the time he has a 5 year plan so give him a break and at the time we were in the championship .

yes, he’s made mistakes but we are progressing he does care about the club unlike the fat man and his cronies. before him we were going knowhere fast. people have short memories nobody else was interested. he could easily say I’m sick of this s. t and pull out live out his days in South Africa that’s where he lives.


8.) 10 Apr 2018 09:13:12
I still think whoever was responsible for the appointment of Pedro should have stood down. The worst appointment in the clubs history. Since Smith we have had 3 truly woeful managers. Let’s just hope the new manager will finally be someone worthy of the position and can lead the club to success


 

 

23 Oct 2017 09:21:06
The board has to recognise that they selected a manager who has no real insight into what it takes to manage a club like Rangers.
Celtic tried it with Delia and although he won 2 league titles and a league cup, he was really not up to the job. (anyone could have achieved that with the squad, opposition and finances available)
Caixinha might be a good enough coach but certainly not at this club. It's still early days for him but if being honest, the signs do not indicate the team is going anywhere and Pedro's rants are getting sillier by the day.
I never wanted DK to take over as I never trusted him and my opinion has not changed.
Anyway, my thoughts for what they are worth.


1.) 23 Oct 2017 10:23:43
totaly agree dave king is not the person who should be there. he doesn't have the brain or understanding. people can say what they like about mike Ashley. but let's be honest who in their right mind wants to buy this. no one with half a brain. vote for king = average club to go
vote for ashley = some investment and most certainly top 2.
dave king is no worse of person that Ashley its just king says what you want to here and ashleys tells the truth.
sad the average supporter doesn't want the truth.


2.) 23 Oct 2017 10:38:48
The board really need to tell him to zip it with all his zany headline grabbing nonsense.

I heard the vampire line and immediately knew it wouldn't be long before it would come back and 'bite' him. And it did, even from journalists that support us, like Gary Ralston.

"Louis Moult scored a second-half double, the first from a corner, as he sunk his teeth into the jugular of Gers and drained them of their ambitions for silverware to kickstart a season that’s now going nowhere. "


3.) 23 Oct 2017 16:55:02
It could be argued Password that anyone could secure 2nd with Rangers if we are talking about finances available!? Not say Ronny was great lol, far from it. but easier said that done


4.) 24 Oct 2017 10:55:38
Spot on about king not having a clue, he isn't a football man. His decisions are clouded by those around him but he is a smart businessman and I think he will know when to sell up and move on. The clock is ticking and if we are not fast enough we will be a mid table team for years. Celtic will walk to 10 in a row and beyond. I never want to see that happen, that would cut me to the bone.


 

 

02 Mar 2017 09:42:51
Sorry to hear big Tommy Gemmell has passed away. I am from the era when wee Wullie Henderson/ Johnson used to run rings round defenders until they were clattered up into the air. Tommy was one of those clatterers.


1.) 02 Mar 2017 10:25:42
Before my time, but achieved legend status with the Lisbon Lions. RIP Tommy Gemmell.


2.) 02 Mar 2017 11:21:27
My thoughts go out to the family of a true legend of the Scottish game.
RIP TOMMY


3.) 02 Mar 2017 14:06:31
Gd stuff lads


4.) 02 mar 2017 14:50:03
r.i.p. tommy gemmell


5.) 02 Mar 2017 15:21:45
Sad to hear this, he was one of Scottish Football's icons. Hard as nails and didn't take prisoners and knew how to take a penalty. He came from an era when football was a mans' game, unlike today.

RIP Brother.


 

 

11 Feb 2017 11:40:31
I have no doubt that Warburton has been in discussion with Notts Forrest.
Did he get his agent to broker a leaving deal which would have suited him (giving up any bonuses etc. ) in return Rangers would not seek compensation from signing club. This would be a win/ win financially for both parties.
However, Notts appointing someone else has scuppered that deal. King now knows his management team are not committed to the club and wants them out without having to compensate them (rightly so) and is using this deal to let them go claiming they resigned. (I'm still waiting on his £30 million by the way)
Talking to a mate who made an interesting point.
If Warburton etc. turn up to take training today and the club refuse them access then what can follow is that they will then claim dismissal which would require them to be paid off under any written contract agreement.


1.) 11 Feb 2017 13:02:57
That would really depend. If the board have in writing that they have offered resignation then they won't have a leg to stand on. Trying to work out what's going on myself this is where the transparency the board talked about would help


 

 

 

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15 Apr 2018 21:43:21
Just what does Nichol bring to the team? He is obviously getting a salary


 

 

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11 Jan 2018 09:22:35
great intention agbroxi, but unless there is a change in ownership, it will never happen.
The opportunity to re-write the whole club structure and do exactly as you suggest was there in 2012 when it all went pear-shaped.
Build from youth and take the hits. Maybe accept that promotion would take a wee bit longer. But, once at the top, the system would be established with future players/ sell-ons coming through. But, the chance was lost as they old guard carried-on as usual. (3 of them are still running the show and showing why 2012 happened)


 

 

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13 Oct 2017 09:29:23
DK talked a lot of money to get what he wanted, and succeeded. How much of his own money has he actually parted with to help the club?
Stated he had £30 million then the rhetoric changed to we need £30 million.
He is on record as being called a glib and shameless liar in a court of law and I don't see him challenging that.
I never agreed with him taking over and everything which has happened since has supported my feelings.
Fed up seeing the senior people at the club from CEO to Manager continually make it look like a joke.


 

 

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30 Apr 2017 10:26:19
Too early to tell about the manager.
The players, on the other hand, were a disgrace.
Bitching about being told their holidays will be reduced. do they want to be professional footballers or not?
How many supporters would give their eye teeth to turn up and play for nothing never mind some of the bloated salaries plus add ins these guys get?
Let's see how many big clubs come in with offers for some of these Prima donas at the end of the season.


 

 

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04 Nov 2015 14:58:28
Pele and Maradona are also going to sign up on a pay per play basis. SuperAlly is said to be considering an offer.


 

 

 

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18 Apr 2018 08:52:17
spot on Johnnymac,
Miller at the centre of another in-house problem. What his wife has to say about her husbands employment is out of order. Imagine one of our wives trying that one!
The management made the decision to appoint Murty 'till end of season. I think most of us agree it was wrong as he is a nice guy but not up to the job.
Regardless of anything else though everyone, especially the players, should be backing him. Sunday's performance was not only about Murty and his tactics (or lack of) . The players out there showed no passion or fight and it ended up being a training session for celtic.

I have said my piece on DK never trusted him and never will.


 

 

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17 Apr 2018 10:36:51
Walter back Ally and we saw how that went. Walter did a great job while at the club but his time is over


 

 

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17 Apr 2018 10:34:27
Murty should have replied . "You got any more stupid questions that you know I am not going to answer? "


 

 

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17 Apr 2018 10:29:55
Miller? Seriously?


 

 

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17 Apr 2018 10:28:26
Pedro may not have been the right man for the job but he certainly knew that Miller was now a problem.