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03 Nov 2015 16:28:53
SPFL News Now
Rangers edging closer to Administration according to some inside reports. more to come on this.

WTF is this about? sounds like a wind up to me.

1.) 03 Nov 2015 16:54:04
Did Dave king not issue a statement saying soft loans from the other board members would keep the club going?

im thinking they are trying to get as much info as possible to null and void all commitments. and all these stupid admin rumors and ashley wants king jailed is just ashley knowing time is up.

2.) 03 Nov 2015 22:39:03
Theblueman i'm with you on this one mate, there is no chance of a second admin.

3.) 03 Nov 2015 23:49:39
Am I correct in thinking if charles green is found guilty of fraud in the rangers takeover, then surely the sports direct contract along with the puma contract will be deemed null and void as it was green who done these deals with mike ashley?

that would then allow dave king to ditch sports direct and puma and would be free to negotiate a new deal with another merchandise partner along with securing a new kit manufacturer that will get the club a far greater income on shirt sales that would be far more beneficial to us.

4.) 04 Nov 2015 08:46:11
Its looking like ashley has started to play his last cards.

I bet whyte has opened a can of worms and green has blabbed aswell
king will keep schtum and on the right side until the last bit of wind from these crooks!

Everybody has/must keep faith as this still is a long road to recovery.

king and the board and the rest of the silent partners won't let rangers slip again and all the nonsense rumors. from the soap dodgers as they have nothing worth talking about.


5.) 04 Nov 2015 08:27:12
I agree with warburtonthe15, and no chance of admin 2 despite timmy's prayers.

6.) 04 Nov 2015 08:40:42
King is out his depth with Ashley. Different league all together. Has Ashley had dealings with king in the past because this seems very very personal.

7.) 04 Nov 2015 16:30:29
Martybhoy I think you've got it the wrong way round, I think Ashley has more than met his match in Dave king, and Ashley knows it. it doesn't matter that Ashley has more money, after all it's not about wealth, it's about the laws of the land, and I think Ashley has broken a few. he knows it, we know it and after the court case Ashley will fold like a bad hand in poker. his latest threats are just that threats, let's get it into a court room let's see who has the best hand, until then all this guessing is causing no panic to us bears.

8.) 05 Nov 2015 08:58:45
Anybody who believes that Ashley has met his match in King is in for a very nasty surprise. Ashley could pull the plug on us at any moment he pleases by calling in his £5m loan. The new board have been in place for 7 months, if there was anything untoward about the SD contracts don't you think they'd have done something by now?

9.) 05 Nov 2015 12:29:02
A, how would we fold for 5mil?
B, he already tried to call in the loan, king chased him!
C, stop using the word "US" you don't fool anyone, felt maybe yourself?

10.) 05 Nov 2015 13:07:14
Ashley can't pull in the loan - it was negotiated in a previous administration to potentially gain control of trademarks and strengthen retail position - sure Ashley is a uber-wealthy, brutal businessman but if he held all the leverage would he (a) request Rangers shareholders to vote to repay the loan and (b) send undercover bailiffs to serve DK with breaking anti-gagging suit - NOPE this is not behavior of someone holding all the leverage - Board is right to delay share issue and fund short term via soft loans - all the current court cases need to run there course and then possibly a public offering - what will a public offering be anyway - it will be underwritten by T3B and DK - what's the difference.

11.) 05 Nov 2015 13:56:25
Iain - of course we have to repay the loan. The loan was agreed with RIFC regardless of who was on the board at the time. MA can go to court to get the monies owed to him and as we can't afford to repay him as we already require loans to complete the season we will be forced into administration. I do like the way you think that it was the board's decision to delay the share issue as if they had a choice. Tomtom - because you don't agree with me you reckon I'm not a fan - is that the case?

12.) 05 Nov 2015 18:58:42
ABHABH1, there is no date for said loan to be paid back, it's like lending your mate a score and telling him to pay you back when he can afford to, I often wonder how Ashley made his money, when he is thick enough to give out loans on the never never, very clever chap indeed, I don't think so.

13.) 05 Nov 2015 19:56:28
Billy are you serious? Check the conditions of the loan. Ashley holds all the cards. He is a very clever chap. Next week could be pivotal. If CG wins his claim on legal expenses I wouldn't be surprised if MA goes to court to ring fence the money he's owed.

14.) 05 Nov 2015 23:02:58
Abhabh1, we will find out soon enough eh, oh are you on the right club pages, none of your posts over the last couple of years have convinced me you are a bear, I think you kick with the other foot honestly.

15.) 06 Nov 2015 07:31:06
Editor - Why are there so many non-bears posting of this site?

Celtic continue to struggle in Europe - Dundee Utd reaping their reward for taking advantage of smaller clubs and selling on to Celtic etc.

Football ambition in Scotland is Zero - let just knock Rangers when they are down!

{Ed001's Note - what on earth has that to do with anything? This is not a Rangers fans only site, if you want that go to one, there are loads of those out there. This is part of a family of sites for all to use to talk about particular subjects, in this case Rangers.}

16.) 06 Nov 2015 08:09:40
Thanks Ed - made that crystal clear.

{Ed001's Note - no worries, I was trying to make it clear, we don't want to become like all the Rangers fans only sites (or any other one club sites for that matter). There are hundreds of them out there to choose from. This started from a site to discuss all clubs initially, and the mix of different fans is what made it interesting. Well at times anyway. Some times other fans can just be annoying, but a lot of the time it is good to get a different perspective on your own club.}

17.) 06 Nov 2015 07:24:01
Billy I'm assuming that because I don't blindly follow Dave King like you that you don't think I'm a fan. Excuse me for being a realist and seeing the absolute dire situation that we are in. But if it suits you to ignore all that and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of 'kicking with the other foot' (whatever that means) then by all means fire ahead.

18.) 06 Nov 2015 21:59:27
Abhabh1, how do you know the courts will not find green etc. guilty and that COULD rope Ashley and them all as illegal in there movement, i'm just puzzled as of, how you seem to think you know all about everything, kindly explain?

19.) 06 Nov 2015 23:41:08
Billy - I suppose that is a possibility. However there is no outcome of the case that is favourable for us.

20.) 07 Nov 2015 18:16:54
Ed - agree it's good to get other clubs fans perspectives. Problem is most of them are filled with petty vindictive wind up nonsense. But I suppose it's good to know that.

Sensible debate seems to be dead, shame as our game desperately needs it.

In terms of Ashley, I think our only hope is that his dealings with the club get drawn into the on going fraud case. Otherwise we are in a deep hole. Have we even handed in our 7 years notice yet?

It became personal when King got Ashley men kicked off the board. Ashley is ruthless and will be very unhappy at being (temporarily) out manoeuvred.

21.) 07 Nov 2015 16:10:49
Abhabh1 again I must ask, how do you know that the court case won't go in our favour big time, if the accused are found to have committed fraud (which I think is a cert) then every deed carried out could be deemed illegal, it would not be the club that was held to account, it would be the people that committed the fraud, they couldn't blame the club that's like the court jailing me for a crime my brother committed in another country, through association.

22.) 07 Nov 2015 21:42:39
Reading you lot on mike ashley 5 million loan. dave king has said he not paying it as in 1 lump sum. contract was agreed an all we have to do is pay agreed installments. all of this does need played out in court room but before it gets there i reckon ashley will say all deals off as long as dave king doesn't say anything about deals but hope king says no the courts will settle it so all can be played out to the press.

23.) 08 Nov 2015 11:58:09
Billy - again there is no outcome of this case that is favourable for us. If the assets were deemed to have been acquired fraudulently then they will be returned to the seller which is now BDO. They will sell to the highest bidder. All we will have is a team with no name with nowhere to play and debts of over 10 million pounds.




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23 Oct 2017 09:21:06
The board has to recognise that they selected a manager who has no real insight into what it takes to manage a club like Rangers.
Celtic tried it with Delia and although he won 2 league titles and a league cup, he was really not up to the job. (anyone could have achieved that with the squad, opposition and finances available)
Caixinha might be a good enough coach but certainly not at this club. It's still early days for him but if being honest, the signs do not indicate the team is going anywhere and Pedro's rants are getting sillier by the day.
I never wanted DK to take over as I never trusted him and my opinion has not changed.
Anyway, my thoughts for what they are worth.

1.) 23 Oct 2017 10:23:43
totaly agree dave king is not the person who should be there. he doesn't have the brain or understanding. people can say what they like about mike Ashley. but let's be honest who in their right mind wants to buy this. no one with half a brain. vote for king = average club to go
vote for ashley = some investment and most certainly top 2.
dave king is no worse of person that Ashley its just king says what you want to here and ashleys tells the truth.
sad the average supporter doesn't want the truth.

2.) 23 Oct 2017 10:38:48
The board really need to tell him to zip it with all his zany headline grabbing nonsense.

I heard the vampire line and immediately knew it wouldn't be long before it would come back and 'bite' him. And it did, even from journalists that support us, like Gary Ralston.

"Louis Moult scored a second-half double, the first from a corner, as he sunk his teeth into the jugular of Gers and drained them of their ambitions for silverware to kickstart a season that’s now going nowhere. "

3.) 23 Oct 2017 16:55:02
It could be argued Password that anyone could secure 2nd with Rangers if we are talking about finances available!? Not say Ronny was great lol, far from it. but easier said that done

4.) 24 Oct 2017 10:55:38
Spot on about king not having a clue, he isn't a football man. His decisions are clouded by those around him but he is a smart businessman and I think he will know when to sell up and move on. The clock is ticking and if we are not fast enough we will be a mid table team for years. Celtic will walk to 10 in a row and beyond. I never want to see that happen, that would cut me to the bone.



02 Mar 2017 09:42:51
Sorry to hear big Tommy Gemmell has passed away. I am from the era when wee Wullie Henderson/ Johnson used to run rings round defenders until they were clattered up into the air. Tommy was one of those clatterers.

1.) 02 Mar 2017 10:25:42
Before my time, but achieved legend status with the Lisbon Lions. RIP Tommy Gemmell.

2.) 02 Mar 2017 11:21:27
My thoughts go out to the family of a true legend of the Scottish game.

3.) 02 Mar 2017 14:06:31
Gd stuff lads

4.) 02 mar 2017 14:50:03
r.i.p. tommy gemmell

5.) 02 Mar 2017 15:21:45
Sad to hear this, he was one of Scottish Football's icons. Hard as nails and didn't take prisoners and knew how to take a penalty. He came from an era when football was a mans' game, unlike today.

RIP Brother.



11 Feb 2017 11:40:31
I have no doubt that Warburton has been in discussion with Notts Forrest.
Did he get his agent to broker a leaving deal which would have suited him (giving up any bonuses etc. ) in return Rangers would not seek compensation from signing club. This would be a win/ win financially for both parties.
However, Notts appointing someone else has scuppered that deal. King now knows his management team are not committed to the club and wants them out without having to compensate them (rightly so) and is using this deal to let them go claiming they resigned. (I'm still waiting on his £30 million by the way)
Talking to a mate who made an interesting point.
If Warburton etc. turn up to take training today and the club refuse them access then what can follow is that they will then claim dismissal which would require them to be paid off under any written contract agreement.

1.) 11 Feb 2017 13:02:57
That would really depend. If the board have in writing that they have offered resignation then they won't have a leg to stand on. Trying to work out what's going on myself this is where the transparency the board talked about would help



04 Sep 2015 10:37:45
Im just amazed that it all took this long to get Green, White, Clarke et al to court. A blind man could see this sell-off was totally and utterly detrimental the creditors, club and supporters and in no way could be considered a reasonable price for the assets involved. I wonder if thing will come out of this implicating SDM (I personally hope so, but that's my own feelings)

1.) 04 Sep 2015 11:19:29
The thing is, the vast majority of supporters bought into his cr@p of being victimised , down trodden and not forgetting the absolute bullsh1t statements he came out with.

2.) 04 Sep 2015 11:42:04
Password the police have had to wait until the greens and whites,duffs a phelps etc have finished doing as they have done,then the police have had to look over 4 years of paperwork before deciding right let's go after this lot now,if they had charged them say 3 years ago,the time would have ran out to get them to court,witnesses would have forgot what they said,so I imagine this has been to to prossision .

3.) 04 Sep 2015 12:25:00

It is unfair to blame Rangers FC or their fans as to who is in charge. The fans can only respond to what the media puts out - we have no means of knowing their worth by any other means.

The media hyped up Whyte and Green, not the fans. The fans only came on board once the media wrote about them. I remember our fav Glasgow newspaper stating that Whyte was worth untold millions and was going to spend spend spend. I also remember them saying that Green was a front for an Arab investor who was willing to spend big. The fact that fans bought into this is not their fault it is the fault of the media for being lazy journalists.

4.) 04 Sep 2015 14:33:07
Eye Redy, that's a very jaundiced view. The key word in your post is "spend". Most fans were willing to jump into bed with any person willing to spend irrespective of their background or what the media said. In fact the only person the fans didn't jump into bed with was the one guy who might been beneficial for the club through a complete cull and an overhaul of the business model. Why not, because he spoke of tightening the purse strings?
Bill Miller anyone?

5.) 04 Sep 2015 14:45:10
If I remember correctly everyone thought Bill Miller would have done a good job - do not remember anyone criticising him.

As for RFC fans jumping into bed with anyone - who were these investors that we would gladly go to bed with? If memory serves not a lot a takers on that score.

6.) 04 Sep 2015 15:53:14
Sorry Aye ready, but Miller received hate mail from fans who seemed to believe only ''real rangers men'' should take over the club, this despite most of these so called Rangers men who wanted the club being all mouth and unwilling to come up with cash, and certainly this so called fans reaction unfortunately was a major reason on Miller pulling out.

7.) 04 Sep 2015 16:01:06
Your memory is playing tricks on you, remember the banners saying go home yank etc, as for the media, even on here, anyone saying a word against green got slated, the desperation supporters had, for a guy to walk in with a "war chest" clouded a lot of sensible people judgement, and couldn't see the obvious , so yes you can blame.

8.) 04 Sep 2015 16:01:12
Aye Ready. the media are scared at times to say anything that may be seen as going against our team. There are a number of media names who have been threatened with violence and intimidation when they have made any frank statements be it about directors or anything in our clubs name.
We have a number of fans groups who should look at themselves very closely in all the past messes. who have backed the "big war chests" wholeheartedly in the vain hope that they really are directors/owners who care about our great club? From Murray down there has been a "cloth cap wringing" "bow scraping "blind following" of the pie in the sky statements by our directors , that for some unknown reason a majority of our fan base appear to "eat up" like lambs to a slaughter. When any challenge goes against this "freethinking" brigade ,name calling and threats inevitably follow . its the Rangers way I'm afraid and until we manage to chill out and just become fans who just love the game instead of thinking everyone on planet earth hates us, we will not "move on" from the past mistakes of others, as getting proved as we yet again talk about it,,,,,,,,,,aaaaaaaaaaa groundhog day anyone:(

9.) 04 Sep 2015 16:18:18
Man aye ready your memory is only serving double faults. Miller did indeed get "Yank go home" abuse. Ironically with a number of them playing for Rangers on the park at the time but hey it's Rangers, contradiction is almost a bye word. Shocking history re-writing in that sieve you have for a memory, tut tut.

10.) 04 Sep 2015 16:50:09
It would seem from the replies that because some supporters do not like or do like whoever is in charge then that means that the entire family of RFC supporters agrees the same. A few banners does not mean the whole support. The majority of RFC fans stay at home; the majority of RFC fans are not belligerent; the majority of RFC have a touch of class about them.
Those that have opinions and like to tell all and sundry about their opinions go onto all sort of media outlets spouting forth, therefore making it seem that ALL RFC fans think the same, however in my humble opinion that is far from the truth.

11.) 04 Sep 2015 20:40:52
That's all very true Aye ready. Why therefore did you write "If I remember correctly EVERYONE thought Bill Miller would have done a good job" followed by the equally inaccurate "don't remember ANYONE criticizing him." Well done aye ready, perhaps a record for in here, 5 posts between garbage and it's utter contradiction from the same guy! Which bizarrely turned out to be even bigger garbage??

So why say it is far from the truth that all Rangers fans thing the same but use such all embracing words like everyone and anyone? I doubt it's possible to contradict yourself even more but I'm sure you'll give it a good try eh?

12.) 04 Sep 2015 22:12:03
ALLY that was the most honest appraisal I have ever seen from a Rangers fan and I would imagine some of it was difficult to write. I applaud you.

13.) 04 Sep 2015 20:21:18
Ally that's the Best post anyone has posted Well said that man( Take a Bow Son ).

14.) 04 Sep 2015 22:16:13
Aye Ready: I totally agree, fans only responded to what was being reported, I don't see what is jaundiced about this view Gaz I, it's only logical and this hey, it's Rangers mentality, it can't happen to us, from Celtic fans is getting a bit waring,
so the moment we read about Whyte taking over we are supposed to assume this guy is going to sell us down the river, give me a break!

15.) 05 Sep 2015 09:51:53
Scotjo it was actually STYAB that said jaundiced so you are off to a bad start already. I think Celtic fans are overall a touch warier, we proved that in the 90's. The cloth cap mentality that ALLY alludes to definitely exists, an ex Rangers director referred to it as "the big hoose mentality" where you defer to people in powerful positions and never question them, how many of you say Mr King, Mr Green, Mr Wallace, Mr Stockbridge at the start? He was wee Fergus from day one, he's still Lawwell or Peter Lawwell. So with this almost instinctive respect comes an attitude never to question, oh they are Rangers directors I must call them mister, show them respect and that tie and position leaves them lauded and unquestioned in many cases till it it way too late.

Okay Scotjo why even after the collapse, February 14 2012, were people still delighted the next day when Whyte went to court and got to chose the administrators? Why despite numerous warnings from people within Sheffield United did people still back Green when the game plan more or less seemed to mirror theirs? I don't know if you question on day one but some of you didn't even question then and that is very worrying.

16.) 05 Sep 2015 11:48:45
That wasn't the point I was making, you so wise Celtic fans would have clicked on as to this right away I suppose?

17.) 05 Sep 2015 11:59:09
Actually Gaz I it was a good start I got off to because my point made sense.

18.) 05 Sep 2015 15:46:08
One point Gaz, maybe people still backed Green simply out of urgency, they wanted to believe in him, who else could they turn to? Time was running out, it was like that at that time, people are only human in these situations.

19.) 05 Sep 2015 15:58:27
You said "I don't see what is jaundiced about this view Gaz I." Doesn't that suggest I said jaundiced in the first place? Or have you no concept whatsoever about quoting people and rebuffing their remarks?

As for your other point, well only one actually, your other nonsense is still nonsense, I don't know if we'd have bought in right away, regards Green I'd have been suspicious and when he followed through on what was more or less a template of what he did in Sheffield then it was a no-brainer but as for Whyte that some of you could buy into him so late in the day was downright bewildering.

20.) 05 Sep 2015 16:09:30
Gaz : Not as much nonsense as yours is and where you got this would we buy into in the first place eh? Didn't come from me I don't think! Bewildering eh?

21.) 05 Sep 2015 16:11:07
Funnily enough Gaz, me thinking it was you, well that is what is commonly known as a MISTAKE, ever come across this concept before?

22.) 05 Sep 2015 16:45:06
Funnily enough that was what is commonly known as a MISTAKE, familiar with that concept Gaz? As far as that bought in right away, don't recall typing that.
BEWILDERING eh? As for your last part, wait a minute, only part, actually, we'll see my last answer and as for no brainier, Celtic fans will do well with that then.

23.) 05 Sep 2015 16:54:25
Scotjo "some of you" doesn't mean you personally, much as you may or may not want it to, all I implied was that even after going into administration some of you still backed Whyte, I know this because I argued with them in here. You however maybe picked it up wrong and therefore made your second mistake, you're consistent I'll give that. :)

24.) 05 Sep 2015 17:16:43
A bit like you then.



12 Aug 2015 03:15:06
I see In the Women's Football Scottish Cup quarter finals Rangers have been drawn against. Rangers. I guess that guarantees Rangers will make the semi finals then.




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11 Jan 2018 09:22:35
great intention agbroxi, but unless there is a change in ownership, it will never happen.
The opportunity to re-write the whole club structure and do exactly as you suggest was there in 2012 when it all went pear-shaped.
Build from youth and take the hits. Maybe accept that promotion would take a wee bit longer. But, once at the top, the system would be established with future players/ sell-ons coming through. But, the chance was lost as they old guard carried-on as usual. (3 of them are still running the show and showing why 2012 happened)



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13 Oct 2017 09:29:23
DK talked a lot of money to get what he wanted, and succeeded. How much of his own money has he actually parted with to help the club?
Stated he had £30 million then the rhetoric changed to we need £30 million.
He is on record as being called a glib and shameless liar in a court of law and I don't see him challenging that.
I never agreed with him taking over and everything which has happened since has supported my feelings.
Fed up seeing the senior people at the club from CEO to Manager continually make it look like a joke.



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30 Apr 2017 10:26:19
Too early to tell about the manager.
The players, on the other hand, were a disgrace.
Bitching about being told their holidays will be reduced. do they want to be professional footballers or not?
How many supporters would give their eye teeth to turn up and play for nothing never mind some of the bloated salaries plus add ins these guys get?
Let's see how many big clubs come in with offers for some of these Prima donas at the end of the season.



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04 Nov 2015 14:58:28
Pele and Maradona are also going to sign up on a pay per play basis. SuperAlly is said to be considering an offer.



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03 Feb 2015 03:16:22
Did not need to sell as they saved a bundle of cash by cancelling the Christmas Party for the real workers at the club.




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16 Dec 2017 17:12:22
Divads, I think its pretty clear that THEY don't know so there is no chance of an explanation.



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24 Nov 2017 23:42:17
team performance is on par with the morons running the club so no surprise. However, regardless, the players should at least show some spirit and pride for their profession



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24 Nov 2017 23:40:29
I said I did not trust DK and so far he has done exactly what I expected. spend other people's money never his own. The club cannot and will not attract a decent manager as long as the current lot keep DK in place. For goodness sake, the man was called a liar in a court of law and yet was still accepted by the Scottish authorities as a fit and proper person and by a lot of supporters. I for one, am not surprised the way things are going. Murty is way out of his depth and the board should be ashamed of themselves. Hopefully, the supporters recognise this and will not allow the man to be made a scapegoat by the charlatans.



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28 Sep 2017 09:27:30
Sparky, I think his point is fair as there are some supporters who can't move into the 21st century. His comments about where the club is and where they should be is spot on.
The rebuilding should have started in 2012 but it did not for a variety of reasons.
Can/ will the supporters give the guy time to implement his ideas? Personally, I doubt it and the club will just keep going back to GO and start again.
The club just does not have the financial resources to sustain current expenditure and certainly cannot afford to ditch and compensate the latest managerial team. So it's time for patience.
I will also say that Walter etc. who all professed genuine love for the club and made a lot of money from it, could step in and assist without charge but that does not seem to be happening



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04 May 2017 08:46:55
I am a great believer in 'never go back'
Once a player leaves of his own choice then he should not be brought back.
Very rarely works out well