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03 Oct 2022 18:22:04
Tom
Lawrence out till after the World Cup. Stv news.
1.) 03 Oct 2022 19:32:21
We are not having much luck with injuries past couple of years at all! Hopefully, this changes.
2.) 03 Oct 2022 19:45:59
On positive side Roofe now available and Ben Davies likewise.
3.) 03 Oct 2022 20:08:38
Big loss to the team.
Along with Colak, one of the standouts from the new signings.
3 goals and 2 assists in his first 9 games was a huge contribution.
4.) 03 Oct 2022 21:27:55
3 goals 2 assists is a huge contribution you say? Kent has 1 goal and 4 assists but is deemed hopeless.
5.) 03 Oct 2022 21:39:03
3 goals in 9 games Kent done that in about 50 odd games last season.
6.) 03 Oct 2022 21:40:57
Same amount a goal contributions as Ryan Kent but he’s been a waste a space spud? Your own arguments are always your undoing.
7.) 03 Oct 2022 22:25:48
KENT will tear them apart again.
8.) 03 Oct 2022 22:26:24
Different players also. Kent should be scoring and assisting far more than Lawrence. Comparing apples And oranges.
9.) 03 Oct 2022 22:45:08
Ones a midfielder, the other is a winger.
Lawrence has scored more goals in his Rangers career than Kent has since the start off the 2021/ 2022 season?
And if it’s all about assists:-
Matondo who has had a stop start to his Rangers career has 3 assists in 5?
Or Tav who isn’t performing at his normal levels also has 4 assists.
The much criticised Barisic has 3.
Not that much of a Superstar when you think about it?.
10.) 03 Oct 2022 22:51:38
Lawerence 3 goals 2 assists so involved in 5 goals, huge contribution.
Kent 1 goal 4 assists so involved in 5 goals, deemed waste of space.
That's up there with the 'McGregor is on the decline' stats. ???.
11.) 03 Oct 2022 23:25:07
Tav isn’t performing? Is that another player going under the buss lol tav hasn’t put a foot wrong. Lawarcne is an attacking midfielder his job is to score and create changes same as Kent.
12.) 03 Oct 2022 23:26:19
Barsic has been one of our better players this year who has been criticising him?
13.) 03 Oct 2022 23:28:09
Explain how Kent should be doing more than Lawrence both are attacking players both should be chipping in with goals and assists. Superman don’t think anyone said he was that spud lay of the beers.
14.) 03 Oct 2022 23:29:26
Tav Matondo barsic and Kent all struggling but Lawrence with the same numbers flying lol enough with the favourites.
15.) 04 Oct 2022 03:09:46
It’s not all about numbers Tom Lawrence was playing better than the above players.
16.) 04 Oct 2022 06:26:29
It's not that hard to understand MPH. Kent has played more games than lawrence to achieve that amount. If lawrence had played the same amount of games as kent he would most probably increased his numbers.
17.) 04 Oct 2022 10:13:43
First it was Kent assists the assist to cover his poor performance.
Now it's all about "goal involvement"?
So by that reckoning, Tillman who has also had a stop / stop to his Rangers career must actually be ripping it up as he's been "involved" ( ? ) in 4 goals. ?.
18.) 04 Oct 2022 11:23:14
You made the point mph of goal involvements, you posted the stats. Again your stats have ruined your argument. Both have 5 goal involvements overall yet one is huge and the other useless. You have contradicted yourself.
19.) 04 Oct 2022 12:14:18
Assisting an assist is called a key pass spud. Surely footballing brain of yours knows such things.
20.) 04 Oct 2022 12:15:36
Everyone was singing tilleman praise now you’ve got him struggling is there any rangers players you actually rate spud. Since the whole team is horrible apart from lawarce.
21.) 04 Oct 2022 12:16:58
Kent’s 5 goal involvements have only been in the league the place your claiming he’s no good enough yet only 8 games in. Now goal involvements don’t count unless they are for Tom Lawrence.
22.) 04 Oct 2022 12:54:52
I never mentioned 'goal involvement '.
That was Coldo to hide Kent's deficiency in front of goal.
I said Lawrence has scored more goals than Kent has since 2021/ 2022 season for Rangers.
And he is only a couple of assists behind.
Not bad for a midfielder.
What's to disagree with that?
The thread was about Lawrence but you and others can't help yourself trying to justify Kent's overall poor displays this season because he's got 4 assists and a goal. ?.
23.) 04 Oct 2022 13:58:55
Kent has cost us a fortune, a transfer fee of around 7 million, including bonuses I believe he's on 60k a week, taking his goals and assists into account he's simply not been worth the money.
24.) 04 Oct 2022 16:13:05
£60k a week, steady on sir, lay off the Scotsmac, only the Mac could be responsible for such a ridiculous statement.
25.) 04 Oct 2022 17:23:10
Camoo I don't think it's luck to bla. e but more to do with our signing policy half the guys we signed already had bad injury records before they joined us.
26.) 05 Oct 2022 15:16:35
Mark44 if true re Kent’s wages, Whoever okayed this needs sacking, ???????????.
27.) 05 Oct 2022 16:24:20
John already stated what kent is on and reading that his new deal would be worth about 12m get him out I say.
28.) 09 Oct 2022 17:25:31
The question for me is whether Kent was worth the money we paid for him and whether Sands and Tilman would be worth what we would need to pay to make their moves permanent.
As far as Kent is concerned he was part of a League winning team and a Team that got to the final of a European Trophy and he certainly contributed to both with some good performances. The problem now is that he seems to have lost interest and wants the big money that he perceives he is worth. His performances recently certainly don't support this.
As for Sands and Tillman I am not convinced that either are worth what we will be asked to pay for them. I believe that Tillman has ability but whether he can progress in Scotland with its heavy grounds and rough house defenders is debatable. Sands is supposedly a Centre Back but he hasn't been great in that role and while we need to replace Davis in midfield I have to believe that there are better out there!
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29 Oct 2022 15:28:59
Captain marvel strikes again.
1.) 29 Oct 2022 16:20:39
Yes with a great goal.
27 Oct 2022 22:02:24
Mark wilson hit the nail on the head earlier regarding our performances in Europe. Maybe just me but I was too busy concentrating on individuals not turning up on match days etc. mark said that tonight that no one expects rangers to compete with these top tier teams but go out and at least run with them. Lose them down. Run yer heart out for 90 mins and at least ye can say you tried your heart out on the pitch. We had players jogging. Did Kent break a sweat? Or emdy else for that matter.
Now look at Celtics efforts in Europe this season. Ok they didn't qualify but the performances in Europe have Ben night and day on another day may have got more out the games in that group. They have bought into the managers ethos. Run and chase. Harass. Show maximum effort. They have players running there pan in so they don't get dropped even though the manager is rotating the squad every game.
What exactly are we doing? ?♂️.
1.) 27 Oct 2022 22:47:19
We were playing top of seria a and last years finalist Liverpool. You expecting us to beat them.
Ajax have lost more goals to them than us and they have a ton more experience at this level.
On the other hand that mob are in a piss easy for champs league group and have been crap. They should have done better if they were as good as we are supposed to believe they are.
2.) 27 Oct 2022 22:57:13
Have a look at Celtics European record in the last ten years. its hardly inspiring. In fact it's embarrassing. We've had a bad year. They haven't won a home CL game in ten games. Let's not compare ourselves to them.
3.) 27 Oct 2022 23:15:30
Think the 2 of yeez are missing my point. At least they turned up and tried regardless of how easy you think the group is. It’s there effort i'm comparing. Or lack of on our part.
4.) 27 Oct 2022 23:20:23
Celtic haven’t won a game so how’s it night and day.
5.) 28 Oct 2022 01:23:20
They competed . We didn’t.
6.) 28 Oct 2022 05:41:17
Mccrae. Chz mate. A didn’t think it was difficult to understand. ?.
7.) 28 Oct 2022 07:05:25
Didn’t know you were awarded bonus points in the CL for having a go? ?
They are rank rotten same as us.
8.) 28 Oct 2022 07:49:30
Why are you talking about celtic? Don't get it.
9.) 28 Oct 2022 08:03:46
M8 a totally get your point, it's about giving your all wee never done that and if I am being honest wee probably have slightly more experience in europe just now than that current celtic team as well, but some people on this site are just out to be argumentative d###s and disagree what people say no matter what it is.
10.) 28 Oct 2022 08:20:57
I get your pint 12th man. Their manager has had money to spend and spent it well. They have an identity and played with a bit of passion. Fair enough they weren’t good enough but all you can ask is players giving a 100% and that is th e difference.
11.) 28 Oct 2022 08:36:40
If we keep stick our head in the sand, things will never improve ok we don't have same resources as some, but as it has been shown we not even competing on levels of fittness/ effort,
12.) 28 Oct 2022 08:44:30
Surely it counts for something if you look as if you want to win rather than taking to the park waving a white flag, that’s the difference. We have been awful and never looked at anytime that we thought we could get something from any match.
13.) 28 Oct 2022 09:20:52
i agree to a certain point, although our results with celtic in the CL are similar, in that they have both been poor, i would give credit to celtic { can't believe i said that out loud }in the fact that their manager sets them up to go out and have a go, which is quite refreshing to what our manager does. !
14.) 28 Oct 2022 10:07:17
if you fight you won't always win, if you don't fight you will always lose.
15.) 28 Oct 2022 10:33:20
If no-one wants to discuss Celtic then look at Napoli instead. There, every player has bought into the managers ethos of passing very quickly and 100% concentration for 90-minutes. That is total football in anyone's language and it is how you get the best out of your players.
16.) 28 Oct 2022 17:36:58
Agree Colonel, and that's down to the players essentially respecting the manager, do our players respect Gio.
22 Oct 2022 21:54:17
Ye can't say things like " we can't compete with these teams financially" when ye get pumped in Europe then struggle to beat Dundee and livi and the likes who manage fine against the budget we have compared to them As I said after the Liverpool game. He needs to go. I can't listen to him anymore. Same mince he spouts after every game. Av had enough
Do the right thing and walk.
1.) 22 Oct 2022 22:16:26
He will be sacked after Napoli game.
2.) 22 Oct 2022 22:23:18
If not after napoli, probably if we lose to Aberdeen next weekend!
3.) 22 Oct 2022 22:30:05
Napoli are on fire and should give us a hiding.
4.) 22 Oct 2022 22:44:49
He should be sacked before then.
Our wonderful board (snigger), should have put him, and us fans, out of our misery at 5pm tonight.
5.) 22 Oct 2022 23:46:48
Can we afford to pay him off?
Who can we bring in that would work under budget available? or should I say under players given to them by Ross Wilson?
6.) 23 Oct 2022 00:00:25
I've got £112 in my betfred account, seriously looking at napoli -5 with it all. Fear they will destroy us.
7.) 23 Oct 2022 07:56:48
Get it aw on it 55 you will be quid in.
8.) 23 Oct 2022 09:02:37
Napoli may not field their strongest team as they have already qualified, I always hope we can get a result in any game we play, it's up to the players more so than the manager to up their game, Alex Ferguson once said, once the team crosses that line it's up to the Captain to ensure the team plan is followed, let's wait and see, as for Aberdeen next week, I fully expect to beat them, that has to be the attitude, surely.
9.) 23 Oct 2022 11:00:54
I fear the aberdeen game more than Napoli. I don’t care about Europe. I think we were very lucky not to travel to rubbishodrie as I had a strong feeling we would drop points. I have the same feeling even more so now abt them next week even at ibrox. I can’t see us getting 3 points next week at all.
22 Oct 2022 15:22:30
Arfield on the right when we have weight and Motondo. A give up man honestly.
1.) 22 Oct 2022 15:58:12
Rabbi and Wright as just as bad get roofe on there.
22 Oct 2022 14:58:45
Good luck to young Stephen Kelly today. Hope he goes and shows them it was a mistake to let him go. Wee guy bleeds blue. The type of players we need. Not just picking up a wage they don't deserve.
1.) 22 Oct 2022 15:47:21
Why do you hope he does well against us? But strange that do you support rangers or Kelly?
2.) 22 Oct 2022 15:59:47
Bleeds blue lol so did Andy Halliday doesn’t make him good enough we need better than Kelly if we want to do anything. Our own midfield might as well be wearing yellow because they are none existent same as Kelly.
3.) 22 Oct 2022 16:00:18
Imagine wishing someone playing rangers good luck couldn’t lose the league today but you wanty wish our opponents luck?
4.) 22 Oct 2022 16:36:48
He showed nothing to suggest he deserved to break into last years team. Not good enough.
27 Oct 2022 22:04:47
We can’t afford to sack him. He would need to walk and can’t see him doing that. As much as I don’t want him here I don’t think we have a choice. If we can’t go out and add quality additions to the team then we don’t have 5 or 6 million to get rid of him and his team. ?♂️.
26 Oct 2022 09:41:54
Would rather try Clarke Harris we where linked with also. Yates goal return isn’t great especially for 5m.
24 Oct 2022 14:13:39
Your up the lum my man ?.
15 Oct 2022 10:33:44
Surely if your a player you must be keeping yourself in decent shape incase the call comes. Tom rogic was available right away for West Brom almost. Shouldn’t take a player long to get match fit if they are in good shape. Kinda like the complete opposite of Morelos on his return.
14 Oct 2022 09:24:12
#big dunc.
31 Oct 2022 16:52:59
Many cards had sands had? disciplined. Always good for a yella.
30 Oct 2022 14:49:50
Jack helander kamara Kent morelos souttar roofe. All need to go. Jurybout on Wright sakala and matondo. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see hagi getting back to where he was or exceeding that with that injury he got. I reckon he will breakdown pretty son after coming back. Even more so if not given the proper time to heal.
30 Oct 2022 14:43:56
If Tav could get back and defend he would have been facing a cb and a rb. But Tav jogged back like he was running through kelvingrove park. Then stopped. His tackle just before the ball fell to the goal scorer would have been a penalty. Tav is every bit to blame if not more.
30 Oct 2022 14:41:44
Oh deecee. Yer no allowed to take notice of your greatest rivals going’s on or mention that they are currently simply better than us.
Couldn’t care less abt the “ why you talking abt them “ Crew. As you said. They scudded livi today. We couldn’t do that what they did at livi.
30 Oct 2022 12:50:14
Our players have been that bad that if they play average at best they were outstanding. That’s how bad they have been. Shows you where we are the now. Much better performance. Still very wasteful but happy we won because I had a bad feeling abt yesterdays game for over a week.