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19 Jan 2020 01:03:00
Talking to a good contact down south earlier, he reckons Leeds have decided they want Goldson either now or in the summer, but he also heard that Bournemouth are now on his trail and there is still some interest from Fulham. We cannot consider offers now that Helander is out for quite a spell, and I hope it's setting up a bidding war for the summer. How much to take Goldson from us?

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1.) 19 Jan 2020 08:39:49
Imo i probably value goldson about 4.5mill. If we finish this season with the league call it 5mill.


2.) 19 Jan 2020 10:46:35
4.5mil? We paid 3 for him god sake. You might not like him but don't undervalue him. Starts week in week out. At least 7.5m.


3.) 19 Jan 2020 11:18:03
It's all about opinions Tjrfc. I think maybe £6-7m. Goldson might not want to leave though. He's a big player, in a massive team, playing in Europe, with an excellent chance of winning things. None of those teams mentioned give him that.


4.) 19 Jan 2020 11:21:22
Be good business for us with Katic, stand out our. best, Helander, Edmundson and Mayo, knocking on the door, we have cover and options. 5m or 6m for me.


5.) 19 Jan 2020 11:34:48
If Harry McGuire goes for 80 we should atleast be asking for 10, English players in today’s market are majorly overpriced so we should not be letting any of ours go on the cheap.


6.) 19 Jan 2020 12:13:37
You have to take it in context lads, look at the market you are selling to. We paid £3m to take him here, he’s had 2 years of solid first team football after a long time out with injuries, and is just coming into his prime. If we are selling any first team player to the EPL bidding has to start around £10m. They will think nothing of paying that for an unproven player from random leagues around the world, so for an English centre half with EPL experience that is a minimum. Do you think if he was at Celtic they would be selling him for £5m or something equally ridiculous? We have to stop selling ourselves short.


7.) 19 Jan 2020 12:46:16
Well written the wags man. 100% on the button.


8.) 19 Jan 2020 13:08:03
Paul86 - you’re saying that if we won the league you would sell our first choice centre half for £5m? 😂😂😂.


9.) 19 Jan 2020 14:15:08
If we win the league, which we will do. Goldson will stay.


10.) 19 Jan 2020 14:41:27
Celtic were looking for around 8 million for the injury prone Simunovic. No way we should be considering selling Goldson for 5-6. That's crazy talk. Katic may be the best out and out defender but Goldsons passing out from the back is a key part of the way we play and the reason he's always picked. I think a lot of people don't appreciate the job the Goldson does.


11.) 19 Jan 2020 15:41:59
I told my contact it would take £8m-£10m to shift him and he agreed that would be a good price.


12.) 19 Jan 2020 17:09:50
I’m not Goldson’s biggest fan, but I wouldn’t accept £8m for him. That sets the market for what it costs to do business with Rangers. Other teams like us that are big fish in small ponds like Ajax, Porto and dare I say it, Celtic, always demand sizeable fees for players so clubs know if they want a player from one of these teams not to go in with a stupid bid. We would start a precedent by taking £8m for our first choice centre half. Then we would end up taking £15m for Morelos. We have to stop selling ourselves short.


13.) 19 Jan 2020 17:20:30
What a load of nonsense, best defender in the league and the stats prove it . Not a penny less than 10m with a sell on clause. Only reason we got him so cheap was his historical medical condition, that has been sorted and has shown consistency. Captain material if tav leaves.


14.) 19 Jan 2020 17:35:18
If it was me I would try everything to keep hold of him. He has off days and dips in form but he is the communicator or organiser in our back 4. You can see the calming influence he has when playing. If or when we win the league I reckon he would fancy a crack at champions league with us more than a move to teams mentioned. Guy is only what 26 or something so shows what he is capable of doing against CL opponents and its not top end championship/
Relegation battling EPL teams that come with offers.
IMO fee wise I would be looking for offers to be starting at maybe 7. With us looking for possible 10. With SG in charge he will be looking for English values. We need to back him to. Like he says if our guys were down south values would be huge. Just look at mcburnie costing 20 mil. can't even establish himself in a Scotland team with poor forward options.


15.) 19 Jan 2020 17:40:25
Happy at Ibrox but £12m in the summer and think he would be tempted to leave.


16.) 19 Jan 2020 18:26:50
Bankie I’m not sure he would go, I think he’ll want to play in Champion league.


17.) 19 Jan 2020 18:28:36
Bankie, why would the fee tempt to leave?


18.) 19 Jan 2020 19:20:03
goldson is under contract, starts every wk, playing in cup finals and Europa league every season and hopefully come May lifting trophies

we paid 3-4m so for me we shd be asking 10m absl min espesh if it’s English clubs who are awash with money ( Champ is 5th richest league in world)

if they can pay 18m for oli mcburnie then they can cough up.


19.) 19 Jan 2020 20:16:19
John25, you could be right about prospect of champions league being incentive to stay. Just thinking about our stated business model requiring us to buy, develop and sell at significant profit. Also we now have good cover in his position.


20.) 19 Jan 2020 20:48:19
£13-£15 million easily. If he was a person player he would be touted at the £20 million Mark.


21.) 19 Jan 2020 21:08:08
Bankie. We think we have good cover, however that is to be proved.
You are correct re business model though.


22.) 19 Jan 2020 22:31:03
John25, before win at parkhead I thought Goldson was weaker of CH pairing but he was immense on the 29th. Hopefully he maintains that standard for remainder of season.


23.) 20 Jan 2020 14:14:36
Bankie goldston imo is a good pro who talks to players around him.
We tend to notice big displays against them. He has had good games in Europe as well.


 

 

15 Jan 2020 16:39:32
Zak Rudden has now officially joined Partick Thistle for an undisclosed fee, but I am heartened by the news that the deal includes options for us for his future. That's a potential road back for him if he works hard and matures.

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1.) 15 Jan 2020 18:11:23
Mate he's signed for partick thistle. Kinda tells you a story right there that he will never be back at the club.


2.) 15 Jan 2020 18:20:47
I think but back option and sell on clause should be insisted on when our younger players leave, there’s always 1 who turns out to be decent when given a run of games.


3.) 15 Jan 2020 18:24:53
Paul86, that right, aye?


4.) 15 Jan 2020 19:53:46
Yeah pretty much aye 😂 went to a team battling to stay in the championship after loans to falkirk and plymouth argyle. So yeah he will never be back am afraid. Same as hardie and all the other up and coming players who were not good enough. Out of the hundreds that come through the academy only handful will go on for the 1st team. that's just facts.


5.) 15 Jan 2020 20:00:39
All about opinions if rangers thot he was good enough he wouldn't be leaving on a permanent.


6.) 15 Jan 2020 23:10:38
Aye Paul like Andy Robertson who got ditched by Celtic, went to Queens Park - a couple of divisions below Partick and part time - and is now rated as possibly the best left back in the world? Writing folk off at this age is ridiculous.


7.) 16 Jan 2020 00:49:57
The swagman yeah point taken. Still don't think he will do anything. fyi and robertson at 19 was about to head to hull city not still cutting about queens park.


8.) 16 Jan 2020 14:04:56
Paul86, I do understand the facts of the youth system, as I once worked in ours.


9.) 16 Jan 2020 15:20:14
Great so surely you can see from very early on who will no make it who will go to clubs such as thistle and who stand out like a sore thumb and will suceed in rangers 1st team. Likes of barry fergusons. Hopefully we do now have some real strong youth coming through who actually have a chance on making it like patterson.


10.) 18 Jan 2020 00:08:24
Paul86., from what I've been reading there are a good few youngsters currently at our club, that will make the grade for the full team, heres hoping.


 

 

01 Jan 2020 19:41:19
We have our eye on an Egyptian winger / striker called Salah Mohsen. I've never heard of him, just like the rest of you.

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1.) 01 Jan 2020 20:38:35
I heard we also looking at a guy called Madio Sane.


2.) 01 Jan 2020 21:49:41
Thought you were taking the piss, but he is actually a player. 21 year old.


3.) 01 Jan 2020 23:22:48
yes, the one I posted is an actual player.


4.) 02 Jan 2020 11:42:26
he is quite a good player too. wouldn't say no to him. right age, right position etc.


5.) 02 Jan 2020 19:47:46
he will end up top euro league . would be a decent prospect if we could et him though.


6.) 03 Jan 2020 10:43:44
Was speaking to an Egyptian guy today he said he is a very good player but hadn’t heard any links to us when he was home for Christmas.


 

 

01 Jan 2020 19:39:29
I heard a rumour that we are selling nobody from the first team in January, that some players will be moved on to trim the squad and the only way anyone will be brought in will be if they can immediately improve the team. It came from high up in Ibrox, a guy called Steven Gerrard.

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1.) 01 Jan 2020 20:03:02
The covenanter, not a rumour, King and Gerrard both stated that.


 

 

 

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20 Jan 2020 23:15:48
Clinthillsmaid, do you really think that a player capped by his country would come to us to be a backup striker at the age of 24? No chance! And he will never be able to step up to the level we require, he is far too limited in technique, energy and intelligence. He scores goals where he is because that is his level.

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20 Jan 2020 23:11:26
John25, how often have you seen him to not be impressed?

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20 Jan 2020 18:25:29
Clark is bang average, Firth has just signed a new deal and McCrorie is well thought of by the coaching staff. If Carlsberg did wrong posts, Clinthillsmaid's would be it.

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20 Jan 2020 18:23:00
Cannon, because we have far higher ambitions than a second tier player in one of the poorest leagues in Europe.

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19 Jan 2020 19:58:06
Oh, and Blue Dreamer, Defoe, our second choice striker, already has 15 goals and it's just January.

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20 Jan 2020 23:31:58
The Swagman, Boyd and Dodds were good strikers in the top league when we signed them. Indeed Dodds was an established international. Ridiculous comparison.

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20 Jan 2020 23:24:48
SeeUjimmy, the old Wright fantasy trotted out again. He was actually 22. And he was one in a million, Shankland is not. Morelos already was banging in the goals at a higher level as a teenager before we got him. And McCann and Miller have great track records as managers, eh? I know we have done our due diligence on Shankland and four times the verdict from the scouts was No. If he is good enough for us, where are the big money English clubs in the hunt for him? Still, if that's your level of ambition, you should be glad our brilliant management team will surpass that.

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20 Jan 2020 19:04:53
Boyle is no better than we have. Another player who would be punted out on loan after 6 months.

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20 Jan 2020 18:39:18
His lack of energy, his lack of pace, his failure to produce at any level higher than he is currently at - and imagine a Gers fan quoting a Rhecord article as a source for anything! Grow some ambition for the team, Shankland is just another name like Walker and Moult that people are getting hysterical about for no reason. I know we have officially scouted him 4 times and not once was a recommendation made. That's fine by me.

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19 Jan 2020 23:02:58
A general scouting mission, nothing more, nothing less. Believe it or not, clubs do that sort of bread and butter scouting, but since Shankland has already been scouted four times, I'd say he wasn't the main, or only, subject for the scout tonight. More likely is a look at Hibs, who we play in a couple of weeks.

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