Rangers Debates 5

 

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23 Oct 2026 07:37:08
Remember the clocks go back tomorrow lads, I'm moving mine to 1940 a time the country had balls.

Agree14

23 Oct 2026 09:44:29
You'll probs get cancelled for having those type of views SoS
But I agree πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§.

23 Oct 2026 11:48:17
Ohh no that means we're going to get battered for an hour extra from this latest storm tomorrow πŸ’₯βš‘οΈπŸ’¦.

23 Oct 2026 12:56:43
Game might be off yet. See all ferrys cancelled.

23 Oct 2026 13:35:05
SoS - you'll have 4 police vans and 15 armed police at your door and get 31 mths in the nick for that patter..

23 Oct 2026 16:23:31
yah i have a truck running from Bilbao to Rosslare and was meant to leave yesterday, now postponed until Sunday night. weather ain't looking promising, and to be honest the older i get the less i look forward to games in the pissing rain, especially if its a poor game and having to battle through the storm to get home.

23 Oct 2026 16:38:15
A time when my ol dad was in the RAF fighting the Luftwaffe ( Sea Lion) , and the UK was a proud nation.

A shadow now exists.

23 Oct 2026 20:17:51
Tom - it worries me where it ends. It genuinely does.

I have 2 teenage girls and I fear for their generation.

24 Oct 2026 07:56:37
Every generation convinces itself that the next one is driving the world off a cliff.

We look the culture of younger generations and mistake our own discomfort with change for a sign of societal collapse, just like our parents did to us and their parents to them.

24 Oct 2026 09:35:55
EHL - that's very profound.

I'm about 4 shots of caffeine shy from being able to process it though 😁.

24 Oct 2026 09:51:52
athole413. one of the problems is the younger gener++ation (up to 30+), don't see the problems that are going to manifest from the woke era we are in
Scary scary times ( mind get a case of beans/soup in the hut!!)

24 Oct 2026 10:47:38
Woke isn't a new phenomenon, it's just the latest word for the friction that happens whenever society tries to progress. Every era has had its own version of woke culture and every generation lived through their own cultural, social, and moral changes. Unsurprisingly each generation faced the exact same backlash for it.

All the way back in the early 20th century the term prig was used to mock people who acted morally superior or demanded societal reforms.

When women fought for the right to vote, critics claimed the Suffragettes were destroying the traditional family structure.

The 60s and 70s witnessed the Civil Rights movement, during which the establishment labeled anti-war activists and second wave feminists as radical, overly sensitive, and a threat to traditional values.

In the 1990s, we seen the emergence of political correctness. Which pushed for inclusive language, raised awareness about the environment, and challenged systemic sexism and racism. Critics back then complained that PC culture was killing comedy, ruining free speech, and taking sensitivity too far.

In the 2010s, stay woke originally served as a warning to stay alert to racial prejudice and social injustice. As it grew on social media, the term expanded to cover climate action, LGBTQ+ rights, and systemic inequalities.

Naturally, the term was quickly co-opted, commercialised, and weaponised as a political pejorative.


The pattern is always the same:

1. The Youth push for a fairer, more inclusive society by questioning the status quo.

2. The Establishment panics, claims the younger generation is too sensitive, and invents a buzzword to mock them.

3. Time Passes and the radical ideas become the new normal (like weekend labor laws, women voting, or basic civil rights), and the cycle resets with the next generation.

24 Oct 2026 17:23:23
Absolutely bang on ehl. One of the very best non football posts I've ever seen on here mate, brilliant!

24 Oct 2026 17:29:50
I echo your sentiments Sons of struth and Athole, there is nothing progressive with this woke movement. The degeneration of our country over the last 10 years has been nothing of a disgrace. I too feel for future generations. It's a scary time to be alive.

24 Oct 2026 17:35:15
EHL advocation Dialectic Materialism perchance?

24 Oct 2026 18:26:24
Tjm, Marxism was always something I wanted to buy into, but never did.

I'd say I was more Taoist than Marxist.

24 Oct 2026 22:27:37
EHL, very interesting viewpoints and was a pleasure to read.

Unfortunately, terms like woke have been weaponised by those fringe sects that have an inability to convey their own thoughts and policy beliefs in a constructed manner.

I'm sure you will agree that this is very similar to those on the other end of the political spectrum using terms like fascist as a blanket term for someone who disagreed with them.

I believe these to be very strong evidence that the debate is over before it begins.

I have to say I respect your stance very much and I appreciate the eloquence in which you make your argument.

As someone on the other side of the political spectrum it is refreshing to see that true respectful intelligent debate is not lost.

25 Oct 2026 06:37:02
I would venture to say, the difference in all of the excellent info EHL describes is that almost all of what some of us see as strange/weird/mental! is being pushed by Governments across the world in varying degrees, and made to look like the norm, starting from brainwashing early schoolers, different imo. from suffragettes or hippies.

25 Oct 2026 10:13:18
Ehl, i don't think this is a generational thing, i think this is a deeply concerning national security and safety thing.

25 Oct 2026 12:28:20
Yeah EHL, society always evolves and gets fairer but the past few years it's went totally bonkers and that's why people have an issue with "woke". For example the Green Party saying the words "mother and father" are not inclusive and not to be used by official party wording.

That's just going to far. And there is many such cases thru out the world. It's stopped being about helping people and it's not just identity politics.

25 Oct 2026 17:20:49
Absolutely correct Wishy, those terms along with other terms such as chest feeder and the ridiculous pronouns and gender identity are just absurd and has no benefit for the progression of society. We really do need to weed this out from our educational systems.

I agree Tom. Its 100% a threat to national security. You just have to look at the state of France, Belguim etc to see what's next for the UK. The vast majority are sick to the back teeth of the our government encouraging the degeneration of our society.

25 Oct 2026 19:48:24
@EHL,
Not in the least bit attempting to detract from your detailed response above but definitely curious as to whether it was AI generated, or if I'm getting virtually the exact same response my side down to the Google AI model sourcing your post on here! πŸ€”πŸ€£

BTW as a young chap I'd a dog named Trotsky, not sure if that was down to my political viewpoint at the time or the "influencers" that were prevalent all those decades ago. e. g. The Stranglers and/or Robert Lindsay 😁.

25 Oct 2026 20:34:53
Parlane.

I just put his statement into ChatGPT and it is 100% AI generated going by writing patternsπŸ˜….

25 Oct 2026 20:48:30
Parlane, yeah, have said before I record most of my longer posts as voice notes, convert them to Word and then use CoPilot to turn them in to something coherent.

25 Oct 2026 21:40:39
Tbf to EHL , regardless of how he puts the responses together some of them are just brilliant ro read and very educational too.

Hes swayed my mind a few times which is a hard task to do for sure lol.

25 Oct 2026 21:46:11
Tom/NATO- Good posts.

EHL - I am also from the other end of the political spectrum but your post was well structured and thought provoking.

The biggest loss for me is the ability to have differing views now and 'agree to disagree'

The art of debate is gone.

It broke my heart when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

Leave his politics aside, he was a young man of faith who was touring college campuses and teaching young people that it's ok to have different opinions, that you can debate without resorting to violence or cancelling people.

Our educational facilities are now hotbeds of evil ideologies that are intent on warping our young people.

25 Oct 2026 23:52:54
EHL, thank you for the clarification. Always enjoy reading your contributions on here.
Awra best. πŸ‘.

25 Oct 2026 23:59:25
Athole great post mate.

We're heading towards a globalist dictatorship now. I don't see that there's a way of avoiding it with how everything's heading.

26 Oct 2026 12:23:05
Athole, I watched some videos a couple of years ago and they were showing that some children's nurseries in Glasgow were teaching the wains how to protest and they were making wee Palestine flags to hold up.

The whole education system has been infiltrated by extremists from nursery through to university.
It needs gutted and gutted very fast.
When a country needs a ruling from their Supreme Court to let folk know that a guy who wears a dress is in fact not a woman and should be no where near kids and women's changing rooms, it just shows how far this madness has been allowed to spread.

Also the fact that government wants to ban folk from home education and the high taxes on private education just proves that they are desperate to brain wash our children in the education system from as early as possible.

This is pure evil and certainly not progression.

26 Oct 2026 13:02:43
People from both sides of the political ideology have become far too precious of late.

This idea that things being 'woke' is threatening our national security and identity is just a distraction from the incompetence of those in charge of fixing the major issues facing the country. A lot of those economic problems are mathematically difficult tbh.

The right/far right got their own way of late, Cameron, May, Truss, Johnson, Sunak, Brexit the lot and things have arguably got worse economically.

However, being led to believe that just because people have certain views and are very 'noisy' about expressing them is 'ruining' the country is just infantile.

I'd go as far to say that those on the far right are about as snowflake as you can get as they whinge and whine about nearly any small change that occurs and are just as overly sensitive and precious as those on the far left.

My deceased grandfather spent 3 years in a Japanese prison of war camp and I can assure you, the older generation who have a hissy fit about the 'culture wars' going on today have lost a certain sense of relevant perspective.

26 Oct 2026 17:29:06
None of the politicians you just named are far right. Do you even know the meaning?

26 Oct 2026 20:00:29
Historically, political discourse mirrored a standard bell curve and today, that central mass has flattened as the fringes have found a ready made propaganda machine.

Social media platforms are optimised for watch time and user retention. Their algorithms prioritise content that triggers strong emotional reactions, specifically outrage or fear. As a result, fake news (aka digital propaganda) is pushed to the top of user feeds - I recommend watching The Social Reckoning.

As extreme viewpoints generate the most comments, shares, and traction, the far-left and far-right have been gifted a disproportionately loud megaphone. This creates the perception of societal division as the less vocal moderate majority become invisible in online discourse.

The result is a political landscape driven not by the consensus of the many, but by the loudest voices at the extremes.

Lol, AI was used in the production of this post.

26 Oct 2026 20:35:47
Economically you could consider Truss to have a far right leaning, the economics of Johnson splaffing and wasting billions during covid could be considered far left where his personal opinions, written during his journalistic days could be considered far right.

All that matters not a jot, that's exactly the point I am making. Falling into the trap of everyone putting themselves in a corner (left-right-extremism or whatever) and fighting about nonsense whilst they drape themselves in incompetence is the real issue Wishy. πŸ‘.

27 Oct 2026 01:03:33
Touché EHL 🀣
Well played, Sir πŸ‘.

21 Oct 2026 22:23:50
Have we been infeltrated so deep since we went down we down know who is who any more. i'm sure CFC planted folks all over the place when they had the chance but on here?
Agree0

22 Oct 2026 00:47:39
Oh dear,
Maybe take a step back into reality bro , it's a footy forum nothing more , we have always had Tims popping in.

what exactly do you mean Tj?

22 Oct 2026 11:45:53
It's easy to troll when you're winning they'll disappear soon enough.

19 Oct 2026 23:17:07
A true, but not so funny story. My wife and I think we have just came through a bout of covid. She suffers from COPD. Her chest has been pretty bad and I have been getting bad headaches.
She says, "I think it attacks the weakest part of the body".

I will just let that sink in.

Agree2

20 Oct 2026 07:19:31
I'm getting too old to see the joke first time , I'm sure I got it now

In any case I hope your both feeling better soon.

20 Oct 2026 09:43:51
That's a compliment is it no.

20 Oct 2026 10:05:35
Would be a touching sentiment apart from saying your slightly touched πŸ‘€πŸ€£πŸ‘hope your both well budπŸ‘.

19 Oct 2026 15:41:17
Holy sticking the heid into your opponents batman, big Dunc is the new manager of Glentoran.

I shall be trying to get a pint with him in the players lounge when they come to visit the mighty coleraine.

Absolutely loved him as a player.

Agree5

19 Oct 2026 15:56:16
He hasn't been on the booze for a long time now I believe, just as well because he was mixing with some very dodgy people in Merseyside, my pal knew his old man , even bigger Dunk .

Booze was a big issue for Duncan, and I think he chucked it altogether.

19 Oct 2026 20:00:43
Ah cheers for the heads up TT.

Even better as I've been off the booze myself for a year since my heart failure episode in Oz when I was out seeing my late father.

A diet coke and a chinwag will do rightly.

20 Oct 2026 08:49:10
I read his book on holiday - it's a decent read about his life and career.

20 Oct 2026 09:12:21
Oh that's a tough one cletus , my very best wishes to you.

My pal worked offshore with Bigger Dunk years ago, i'm sure Duncan was close to losing everything at one point and he was in the company if the wrong folk a lot, think he's grown out of it hopefully, he could be very good in Belfast , he's certainly very keen and has a lot of contacts.

19 Oct 2026 12:21:07
Angus! Where you hiding?

Agree0

19 Oct 2026 12:27:42
Was wondering the same thing Fork. Hope your OK mate.

19 Oct 2026 12:37:21
Strange, been off a while, hope alls well auld yin πŸ˜‰πŸ‘.

19 Oct 2026 12:54:50
I was thinking the same myself over the weekend Fork. He is a big miss to the site. Someone who doesn't go over the top when we win and is the same when we lose. Hope you are well Angus.

19 Oct 2026 14:58:35
He's away touring with AC/DC😜.

19 Oct 2026 14:18:44
I hope Angus is well, very balanced and very intelligent poster.

20 Oct 2026 14:01:50
Angus is definitely missed on here, excellent poster.

19 Oct 2026 11:53:18
No moans about Masonic Refs this morning πŸ€”.

Agree2

19 Oct 2026 12:19:01
Why masonic out of curiosity, u need to educate yourself as to what freemasonry actual involves.
Freemasonry is non denominational and is strictly adhered to at all times.
Nothing to promote or favour either side of the pathetic sectarian nonsense.

19 Oct 2026 12:34:33
Maybe tell that to the unwashed who despite winning 14 out of the last 15 titles still think there is a masonic conspiracy against them.


Bro DTB, Lodge 385.

19 Oct 2026 12:40:08
Fifer?

19 Oct 2026 13:09:25
Indeed.

19 Oct 2026 13:14:28
We could & should educate ourselves Fork, but it's a secret.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰.

19 Oct 2026 13:19:59
Nice part of the world DTB, used to go to St Monans, Pittenweem, Anstruther, nice coast with all the wee coves, many moons ago.

19 Oct 2026 13:52:25
Well said fork.

Always annoys me that particular line. It also brings a fantastic institution down to the gutter by their ignorance.

19 Oct 2026 13:58:12
Bonkers so it is DTB πŸ‘.

19 Oct 2026 16:01:56
I'm saying nothing!

Coincidental I owned houses in St monans, pittenweem ainster and Cellardyke a few years back, sold them to one man who owned a local business and hotel, he sold them later to a company for double the price, my girl lived in the Cellardyke house when she was at Uni, lovely place back then, horrendous winter weather though.

19 Oct 2026 23:05:05
I work as caretaker at the Cumberland Kilwinning 275 lodge , there's as many Celtic fans there as Rangers πŸ‘€.

20 Oct 2026 05:17:16
It was in Cellardyke i found out what a " garret" was , when i fell through its door and landed in kircaldy hospital.

18 Oct 2026 20:19:16
One more word on Kent's miss, Orange

Ally McCoist said Kent missed a glorious chance to win the cup right there as did almost other pundit

I say again, i would have buried the ball, keeper an all , it was a great save because kent gave him the opportunity by playing like a wee lassie , but you think whatever you like, i'll side with Ally.

Agree2

18 Oct 2026 23:33:47
Always thought it would've been called offside

Could be wrong.

18 Oct 2026 23:34:44
Sorry or was the ball out of play

Forgive my memory haha.

19 Oct 2026 01:42:37
He missed from 2 inches Kenny, couldn't even get the ball over the line.

19 Oct 2026 12:56:28
It was a horrendous miss.
Even more in the context of the game and what was at stake.

19 Oct 2026 16:03:59
Horrendous and the main reason I have not and never will watch the replay, that and Goldson allowing a cross to sail past him.

Kent should have won the cup, he bottled it.

20 Oct 2026 13:15:37
I was meaning the pass too him was possibly out the pitch.

 


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