Rangers Debates 5

13 Mar 2026 05:19:50
There was a Rangers supporter on the Clyde phone in at the beginning of the week there, stating he has inside knowledge that current coventry city manager frank lampard will be the Rangers manager/head coach next season 🤔 For the life of me i just can't see it as lampard is going to be taking coventry city up to the english Premier League next season and there's absolutely no danger i could see him giving that chance up to become Rangers manager, even if the opportunity was presented to him and that's even considering how much he likes our club 🤔I now see an article in the sun online this morning that it's stating not only was frank lampard a better player than steven gerrard, but he's also proved to be a better manager than him also 🤔 What's our thoughts here guys 🤔I like both gerrard and lampard but i'm more than happy Danny Rohl is our manager and for that to remain that way next season, allowing him to build his own Rangers team/squad 👍🇬🇧

13 Mar 2026 09:10:55
More garbage on Clyde, the anti Rangers channel.

13 Mar 2026 09:15:57
Not a chance he's even thinking of coming to Rangers just now, when on the verge of promotion to the Premier League. Could have happened before, pre-Clement, and would have been good, but not now. Personally, I loved Gerrard more as a player too, but splitting hairs, because both were class.

I'm more than happy with Danny, and I look forward to seeing what he does next season, and will be in a better place to judge then.

13 Mar 2026 10:11:02
Sws, Rohl gets far longer for me. Think Lampard has been the better manager so far. Both top notch footballers. Anytime I've been asked that question about picking between Gerrard and Lampard, my answer is who I'd prefer in my team; that's Steven Gerrard.

Same if asked between Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard, then it would be Scholes. But you'll get that question answered differently from most, mate.

13 Mar 2026 14:03:12
I still have a laugh about the Celtic fan on Clyde when Nancy was appointed, predicting that he would manage a Champions League winning side within six years.

On the subject of Gerrard v Lampard, I reckon SG edges it, although Scholes likely just edged it over SG. Three phenomenal talents though.

13 Mar 2026 14:04:24
Gerrard is better than Lampard by a country mile as a player.
Gerrard is also better than Scholes.

13 Mar 2026 14:31:24
In comparison with Toni Kroos and those above, who wins? 🤔

13 Mar 2026 14:51:24
Kroos
Scholes
Gerrard
Lampard
imo, Fork.

13 Mar 2026 14:57:53
I'd probably go with that bud. 👍👍

13 Mar 2026 15:21:51
The thing is, Coventry will get hammered in the PL if they go up, and Lampard is a fan of Rangers, so I'm not sure it's as simple as saying he wouldn't come. He will, I am sure, want to pit his wits against the best of the EPL, but I suspect he sees a big draw of coming here to challenge for honours and play in Europe (if we make it this year.

🤷🏻‍♂️) as well.

For now, I am happy with Rohl and hope he is here for the long term to stabilise and make us successful again. Wouldn't be against Lampard coming in future.

Lampard and Scholes were better than Gerrard.

13 Mar 2026 16:23:04
I would also have Modric above them all as well.

13 Mar 2026 18:10:44
Do a midfield general of all-time search. Just amazing some of the names that pop up.

15 Mar 2026 13:05:52
I think Rohl should get next season, but I wouldn't be surprised if we replaced him in the summer if a more accomplished manager became available.

12 Mar 2026 20:33:34
I just read the club statement there

It's a powerful and overall it was quite a strong and well-pitched statement, especially compared with the kind of vague club statements we often see from clubs.

The club called the disorder and chanting "vile" and unacceptable, particularly the graffiti mocking the 1971 Ibrox disaster.
called for an independent review
Supporting an external investigation into the match organisation, policing and ticket allocations made it sound less like PR and more like a demand for accountability and a direct message to Celtic.

Well Done Rangers 👏👏.

12 Mar 2026 20:37:52
Pretty on point, Stig, liked this though, "We will not accept a narrative that ignores the full context of what happened." 👍

12 Mar 2026 21:25:27
Absolutely Fork.

Very strong statement overall.

12 Mar 2026 21:26:10
They've taken their time and put out an excellent statement. Hope it has the desired impact.

12 Mar 2026 22:21:40
I have now seen both clubs' statements, and I am a little worried it is playing out as I have seen so often before in my life. Both know they are at fault, and what we might be seeing is the normal shift toward minimisation and distancing.

They stop trying to prove they are "innocent" and start trying to prove they were "lesser."

I hope not, and it is a true attempt to reach the truth, but the cynic in me and past experience lead me to not think so.

12 Mar 2026 22:27:32
I am glad they have finally come out with a statement. 👍

12 Mar 2026 22:32:55
I was quite happy with our club's statement, Stig. It was sensible and strong in acknowledging that we have issues, and a hope that the club will deal with it at some point.

On the other hand, after reading the other mobs, one of the first things that came to mind was a club hiding from reality. There is a certain fan base that they have banned, but no accountability for their behaviour at our ground.

I thought it was disgusting, and nothing will change whilst this disgraceful club keeps burying its head in the sand.
Stop trying to hide from what happened on Sunday, as both clubs are as bad as each other. Very poor from that lot.

12 Mar 2026 22:37:51
Flb, what you see is why I made my comment. I just hope we aren't doing the same with our point towards the 66, etc. I understand why we would make that point, but I hope we are truly willing to listen, learn, and act from the findings of the enquiry.

12 Mar 2026 22:58:51
Hopefully we do listen and deal with our own issues, Angus. We have all seen the videos of them forcing their way in without tickets, and I hope we don't kid ourselves, because we have an element of our support who would act the same way if it was the other way round concerning the 66.

Sickening, and to ignore this in the statement, I think, shows how toxic a club they are. As I say, disgusting. Why not acknowledge that element at least, as we have tried with our ones. It is indefensible, and to hide from it is very poor.

I've been at Parkhead when the atmosphere was toxic and their fans ran onto the pitch to attack a Rangers player, but we celebrated in the stands where we had access to, not on the field where we had none, when we won.

It's that simple. I believe if you are going to act like a clown, there are plenty of clowns who will take you up on it, and Sunday shows we have plenty, and that goes for the players too.

Behave yourself, but don't claim to be the victim if you upset someone who shares the same brain cell with you.

13 Mar 2026 07:56:13
Quick comment. Refuse our allocation due to safety concerns, and Celtic FC's lack of acknowledgement of the fact their own fans broke in and damaged a disabled door and supporting wall, as well as their destruction of seats n graffiti, challenging of fans in the SJ and Enclosure, and total failure to accept they done anything by DD's patsy; their site is just as bad.


Don't they realise it's all on Rangers' in-house cameras and mainstream sports and news channels. They can't hide. Neither can our support.

13 Mar 2026 07:56:55
Flb, agree 100%. I hope that as a club we take the things to learn from it, do them and move on. If they choose not to, then not much we can do other than raise it with the authorities. Fed up being part of this double act, which tends to bring nothing but trouble to the club; some of it self-inflicted, granted.

We have enough of our own idiots to deal with to also have to deal with theirs.

13 Mar 2026 08:47:34
Agree with what's been said. I'd add, I think, Celtic's response is cynical and very calculated. To offer an olive branch to the GB as part of their response to Sunday's events is sticking up 2 fingers to all parties.
Battle lines have been drawn. Contenders ready.

13 Mar 2026 09:25:11
This will be controversial, but points should be deducted from both clubs right now. Fines are not going to do anything significant, I would suggest.

13 Mar 2026 09:37:04
Cup game, not league, won't happen.

13 Mar 2026 10:14:38
Broste, both clubs have a habit of issuing statements in the past to appease their fans. What I would have liked to see is an agreed joint statement which condemned both sets of fans who misbehaved. The use of the word "context" bothers me, as one fan's misbehaviour doesn't remove the blame from the other.

Re deducting points - I am amongst the most vocal re absolute liability for the clubs.

My one concern, re this, is that the "ultra" subculture is frequently driven by factors that go beyond the on-field performance or a simple desire to see the team win. For many, it is a lifestyle focused on defending local identity and exercising power. So, does any punishment of the club affect how they behave? I am not so sure.

13 Mar 2026 09:39:14
Aye, take it your a Hearts supporter Pitkin? you can't just invent new rules to suit your cause.

Fines will work, but banning certain fans will also work more effectively. remove the source and the problem is nearly solved.

13 Mar 2026 10:48:46
Angus. 💯
Said in previous chat between us, I think there is an onus on all connected, from the boardroom down to the players, etc., to be respectful towards each other.
There used to be an unwritten understanding that neither would criticise the other. This all changed when a certain John Reid was their chairman, and there was a definite move away from that approach.
This should've been an opportunity for the clubs to admit their part in what happened, but I fear it's just going to be a finger-pointing exercise, which will send the wrong message to those who are easily influenced and need little persuasion to get involved in the toxic aspects.


Don't know what the solution is, but it's a pretty depressing finale to the season after dr getting us back in the race with a fair bit of help from W. Nancy.

13 Mar 2026 10:59:53
Funny guy Geesa. 😂👍

13 Mar 2026 11:19:27
The only statement I want to see from the club is one announcing a lifetime ban to the UB and any other 'Ultra' group.

Well, that, and one announcing the date of the open bus parade for the title.

13 Mar 2026 11:32:52
EHL, good to hear from you and, once again, talking the sort of sense I like. They add nothing, imo, but to the toxic atmosphere.

Broste, I agree and would be good to get that understanding back between the two clubs.

13 Mar 2026 11:39:19
Nice parallel universe you've got going there, Ehl.
If I was a betting man.

13 Mar 2026 11:54:21
Ehl's dual links (no, not sausages) to two contenders give him twice the chance of a title, as long as it's blue though. 😉👍

13 Mar 2026 15:28:30
Pitkin, Celtic should be thrown out of the cup competition for what happened on Sunday and fined. They should be replaced by either Dundee or QP. Would be great for both clubs to have a semi final coming up.

Good to see you posting Ehl.

12 Mar 2026 20:28:39
Everyone of the morons that caused trouble at Ibrox on Sunday should be named and shamed then given a a minimum 6 month jail time if appropriate then banned from football grounds for life. No mater who they support. there's no place for this behaviour at any football ground

12 Mar 2026 18:21:25
2 most important parts for me from club statement:

"All parties must be prepared to have their actions and decision-making subjected to proper scrutiny."

"We were appalled to discover graffiti within the stadium referencing that tragedy. The memory of the 66 supporters who lost their lives in January 1971 deserves dignity and respect. To desecrate their memory is vile. It is cowardly. It is shameful."

12 Mar 2026 22:59:57
My Dad was at the game in 1971, and came down Stairway 13, just before the tragedy occurred.
We were at home (my Mum wouldn't let me go to the OF games at that time), listening to the radio and hearing the tragedy unfold.
My Dad finally made it home at around 9:00pm, and looked absolutely broken by the events he witnessed.


I find it incomprehensible that anyone could defile the memory of those who lost their lives that day. I realise we have our share of idiotic "fans", but the graffiti in the Broomloam is completely indefensible.

12 Mar 2026 12:37:47
Jermaine definitely on talk sport today talking about his desire to work with a team developing young and current strikers. Said Clive Allen and les Ferdinand did so with him and he didn't do too bad. I'm sure he could work wonders with our attacking line since the stats are so poor

12 Mar 2026 16:15:42
It was a shame he rejected that offer from Gio to do just that, only to retire a couple of months later.

12 Mar 2026 17:00:06
If DR leaves, I'd definitely ask Stevie G back with Jermaine, and I think he wanted the ex-England No. 2 to Southgate as his coach, like Beale-type role. Is Steve Holland?

13 Mar 2026 09:41:16
Hmm. Stevie G, who didn't want to come back twice. Why, oh why, would we want him now.

13 Mar 2026 14:05:46
Sas said if dr leaves, that's who I'd go for.

12 Mar 2026 07:43:14
I think it's time we ban the Union Bears.

What happened on Sunday is completely unacceptable.

I know we will have a what about Celtic fans coming on to our pitch, but let them worry about Celtic.

The UB ran the full length of the pitch to get at away support.

It's a cry back to the 80s football thuggery, this for me is unacceptable. This group have cosy us as a club hundreds of thousands with fines, destroying other teams stadiums and away ends and causing so much danger with these pyros, it's a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt.

Why come to a game of football with face totally covered and now selling t-shirts to raise funds for legal fees.

That's screams to me a mafia.

It's time for us as real fans to stand up and ask the club to ban them.

Yes tifos are great but to what cost.

I'm sickened and disgusted and will not be taking my daughters to the football again.

12 Mar 2026 09:44:35
Good 1st post, mate, and welcome.

12 Mar 2026 09:54:46
I don't think we should ban them just yet, but of course, if we can identify individually any of them, then it absolutely must be a ban of sorts depending on what each person has done, and there will be some bans for life in amongst that for me.

I'd force them all to attend a course of some sort run by the club, and I don't mean a 1 day, for a few hours course.

People say we need education, so let's educate.

People say we need to start somewhere, so let's start.

I'd keep them, but with a severe warning and a signed agreement in place regarding some behaviours and the punishment that will come with breaking said deal.

Definitely, I'd start running courses for anyone wishing to sit in the UB area. Non-negotiable. What are people's thoughts on that?

12 Mar 2026 10:13:48
Sad day when you can't take your daughters to the game due to idiotic behaviour. Welcome, Bornger, and agreed. 👍👍

12 Mar 2026 11:02:33
Bornger, welcome.

I agree with you 💯 but it's not a throwback to the 80s, as when we did it in the 80s/90s we did it away from the ground, with no police, and with like-minded lads.



These wee **** bags do it when there's a line of police between them and the other side.

BTW, I'm not condoning it in any shape or form. It's embarrassing.

12 Mar 2026 14:35:18
Flat out ban and police should eject any supporter wearing a balaclava. Simples.

12 Mar 2026 15:03:16
The UB should have been banned long ago. They constantly cause trouble and bring the club down. They are nothing but a bunch of hooligans.

We are supposed to have thousands on the waiting list for ST's, so it isn't as though we will lose revenue.

Just don't renew their tickets for that section, and give them to the guys on the waiting list.

12 Mar 2026 15:17:42
Shouldn't be banned yet? What else do they need to do before a ban for you, Stevie? Get us a stadium closure? They are scum.

12 Mar 2026 16:31:35
100% Storm, bin them, troublemaking cash and reputational drain on the club. 👍👍

12 Mar 2026 17:12:15
I wouldn't ban them as a whole, mate. No, because not all of them did it, Storm, but I would ban individuals identified for 1-2-5 seasons depending on what they did, and the ones caught throwing anything or hitting anyone would be banned for life.



Legally, ye can't ban a wee guy who's still standing at his seat because of what others did anyway.

Yes, the ones who were violent are scumbags, mate. All I've tried to say is it was provoked.

12 Mar 2026 18:25:44
You can ban them as a group. Just look at Celtic. It's quite easy. 👌

12 Mar 2026 18:36:49
But I think they should be punished and allowed to stay. Maybe they bring so, so much good to Ibrox that we would kill the atmosphere dead by banning them.

Why not halve their numbers for away games and ban them from 2 Old Firm matches, or ban them from away games in Europe for a season?

We should force them to take courses about bigotry, inclusion, history and violence, same as they do in jail. If u get over 4 years for anything, u need to do courses to learn and rehabilitate from your offences, use victim courses like how people feel and what it does to them and families, etc.



It works sometimes, and other times it doesn't, but u all say education is key, so let's start now?

It makes more sense to me to educate and impose lesser punishment than to ban every last one of them. We would kill the atmosphere at the stadium; they'll just come back with a different name and leader, etc., and it will all be the same as before.

12 Mar 2026 19:12:39
Stevie that atmosphere is the sectarian dirge about the IRA. if that is away from the stadium then that is no great loss. I find that repetitive and never follows the flow of the game, always being the same. I think the real electric atmosphere comes when the whole stadium is signing; just need to alter the songbook a little.

I also think the sectarianism and fireworks actually stop some fans from attending at all as that creates more of a hostile environment.

I can see your point on only punishing the guilty and I normally would actually agree with that. the problem with them is that they can't be identified because of the face coverings and balaclavas. so if you can't distinguish between the good and the bad and there are more bad than good then just need to ban the lot. all the fines come because of issues in that part of the stadium so they have had their chances.
the statement today however doesn't fill me with hope that will happen.

12 Mar 2026 19:34:22
Angus, I'm one who'd love the sectarian stuff to be gone more than most.

I'd love to attend games again. I'm actually considering it since Dr has come in; I've got this bigger interest again. My big mate has 2 season books, and I'm waiting one week to be offered one if his Mrs ain't going.

That'd be a tough one, lol.

If there was no hatred or religious stuff, I'd still be a season ticket holder and go to away games, etc.

I'm not defending them in any way. I'm just realistic, it's not going to stop in my lifetime, mate.

12 Mar 2026 19:36:19
I'll say this, mate. I agree with u; if we can't identify any of the guilty and they're in UB attire, then I'd hammer them more. That's the only way in that situation. I'd expect the guy who fly-kicked the Celtic fan to be identified, and the guy who tripped the female cop as well.

Some guys just had T-shirts on, like the guy who went for the coach.

They weren't all Union Bears, btw. I saw in videos that some came from the enclosure, and some in Copland Front aren't UB.

12 Mar 2026 19:44:05
I'm going to end up getting banned if I comment anymore on this. nothing but an apologist for their idiotic behaviour, a lack of remorse to those affected, and the damage to our club, because it's all about saving the idiots. You know what, I'm not even sorry.

12 Mar 2026 20:00:11
Fork, I apologise to I, mate. I mean no offence, man.
I'm trying to be realistic here and give my opinion on it.

I've not meant to annoy anyone, maybe storm, lol.

I'll say no more on the subject, mate. 🤝🏻

12 Mar 2026 20:08:41
No worries, Stevie, it's not personal. I just can't stand their attitude towards our club, and I may have gone off the page a bit. Apologies, bud. 👍

12 Mar 2026 23:01:59
No, Fork, you're the most level-headed, fair guy on here, u and Angus. Apologies, mate, genuinely.

I know you're more right than me. It's just not quite how I see it. It's not that I'm so against sectarianism, u wouldn't know it by how I've been the last few days, mate.



Mixed parents, both were heavy. Mum carried the crown for her lodge, and Dad was, let's say, heavy on the other side lol.

That's why I gave it up, mate. Sorry.

13 Mar 2026 09:47:17
Whilst normally I advocate that you are innocent until proved guilty, I think it needs to be the other way around for this situation. If you are associated with the Union Bears then it's guilt by association until you can prove you are innocent.

That sends out a clear message.

If you come to a game with a mask, there is only one intention: do illegal activities and hope you don't face the consequences.

It's like a masked man going into the bank. What would you think he was going to do.

11 Mar 2026 21:58:37
Guys, not football related. You were talking about restoring colour to seats; my gutter downpipes are losing colour. Is there an easy way to restore them other than replacing? Cheers in advance.

11 Mar 2026 22:18:01
Paint them.

11 Mar 2026 22:24:26
Blowtorch, honest.

12 Mar 2026 01:15:59
Could always box them in?

Or paint them with the spray gun.

12 Mar 2026 11:03:36
Brilliant Jasp.

I think we should have a Rangers D.I.Y. page. 😅

12 Mar 2026 14:31:12
Fork is right. If it's hard plastic, then a blow torch will bring it back to looking like new.

12 Mar 2026 15:01:25
Cheers, bud. I seen it on some stadium thing a while ago. Brings them up great. 👍

12 Mar 2026 22:40:01
Just call Fork Pipe Renovations; in the Yellow Pages under F. Decent rates for friends and family. 👍

13 Mar 2026 09:48:48
Yup, Fork is right again. A quick flash with a blow torch restores the original colour. Just don't hold it against one area too long or you will have water pissing through the hole you just made.