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Favourite player: Michael Mols
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28 Sep 2016 20:45:27
I see another 1 million shares purchased in Rangers today ( 3 seep rate tranches)
Anyone know who is buyingThis totals 2.5 Million shares in the last week with 6 separate transactions.
1.) 28 Sep 2016 22:01:07
Or who is selling? What price are they changing hands at?
2.) 28 Sep 2016 22:08:44
27.5p per share which is the apparent going rate.
Yep who is selling it seems difficult to find this information out.
3.) 28 Sep 2016 22:11:05
Gonna say this once and once only and i'm pretty sure most gers would agree, for the love of god speed king michael o'halloran better start this week i'm sick and fed up with warburton not playin the best from the start and instead pickin all the brown noses or teachers pet seriously its going to hit the fan but i'm losin faith n confidence in him.
4.) 28 Sep 2016 22:28:20
Dont think MOH has done much to warrant a start when he's came on tbh.
5.) 28 Sep 2016 22:32:24
I don't agree with you. He fails to look up when he's on the ball and ends up running into trouble because takes too many touches before releasing it although that's if he hasn't already ran into a dead end. You need more than just pace and he hasn't got it.
6.) 28 Sep 2016 22:33:25
Barry it's all good having speed, but if yir final ball is kak and you couldn't score in a barrel of FANNIES then why should MOH start? he needs to show more desire when he's on the park, he doesn't do enough for me.
7.) 28 Sep 2016 23:26:50
Once dodoo, Rossiter, Windass come in, no fear of Europe place, we just have to settle, remember where we have come and to get into Europe first time asking is good going, some people are expecting too much, too soon, but we will be back .
Don't know about you guys but MW must be saying what the hell am I into here but hopefully DW has explained, how impatient some of our fans can be .
Ashley holding us back, but we will BE Back!
8.) 29 Sep 2016 02:13:41
expecting too much too soon and yer sheepin about europe?
am happy to stay up here get rid of the deadwood and be serious contenders over next 3 years.
lets keep expectations quiet, stop pressuring players who have never played at this level before. we will get there.
9.) 29 Sep 2016 09:20:32
Have to admit o'hall has not greatly impressed me either.
No delivery most of the times rarely crosses and wins throw in/ corners or gives away possession, most of the time.
I think if we soaked up possession and hit on the break he would be in the team because of his speed but when there are 10 men defending with limited space to run he is up against it and doesn't have enough star quality. In my opinion.
10.) 29 Sep 2016 10:51:04
aslong as we play this system that were using just now MOH is useless to us there's no point bein lightning fast if we pass across 18yd box til we find an opening it means the one good attribute he has is pointless.
11.) 29 Sep 2016 10:58:46
A would like to see moh get a start aswel but as part of 2 up front and not out wide we did the same with lovenkrands not comparing them obviously but he got played out wide and how many times did he score with a run through the middle with his pace plus if moh runs at the 2 centre backs he would prob win a lot of penaltys with his pace and over the years we've had great success with a strong good in the air striker ie garner and a quick striker ie moh.
12.) 29 Sep 2016 11:21:52
If MOH and Garner was the 2 up front we'd be relegated by christmas.
13.) 29 Sep 2016 13:41:37
bluedie garner is still to bed into the team I am still hopefull he will come good but hasn't really shown anything yet .
until he does i'd still go 2 up front but i'd have waggy and miller they two would score for fun with McKay, holt/ halliday, windass/ rossiter and forrester behind them.
we have soo many talented midfield players that a 4-3-3 is a waste of our talented young players time, i'd be happy with 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 so that they can all get a game withiout taking people out then putting them back in having no consistency.
14.) 29 Sep 2016 15:40:04
Moh was outstanding against QOS and then was back to the bench v the Dons. needs a run of games. mackay has been awful this season as has lee wallace. we're going back the way.6 months ago we beat 90% of that celtic side from last night. we're going backwards.
15.) 29 Sep 2016 16:23:12
Got to laugh it this sum gers fans have short memorys fact this is the same moh who single handidly tore us apart on our home turf because of tht pace and power tht he posseses, the same guy who ran SPL defences apart week in week out and was there top man at st johnstone now all of a sudden he's no yous to rangers please dinna make me laugh he should be our main winger everyweek not we bum boy barrie mckay whos been dreadfull ths season and harry forester aswell does nothin but hack constantly moh should be startin all the time its becomin an absolute joke when waggys out wide and he's on the bench wtf is warburton playin at for christ sake, cum jan wouldn't be surprised if moh wants to leave then again so would i if out of form players were getting game instead of you!
16.) 29 Sep 2016 19:20:35
So O'halloran plays ahead of McKay, Forrester and Waghorn, aye nae bother mate.
17.) 29 Sep 2016 19:23:14
Pace, pace, pace! Usain Bolt's got pace and he can't play either! The guy's got no end product, and neither has McKay. We seem to concentrate our efforts on wide play but we're hardly well endowed with quality wingers. I know the manager will never change, but the squad we have cries out for 3-5-2 using wing backs and two up top. And all our good play always came with sharp passing and quick movement, why have we abandoned that?
18.) 29 Sep 2016 19:56:37
Id have tore us apart that nite. Big daft kiernan was nearly defending on their 18yd line and he's bowfing at the best of times so let's calm down abit here.
19.) 29 Sep 2016 20:02:03
James Stirling totally respect your opinion mate but MW never going to go 2 up front as he wants the full club top to bottom to play 4.3.3 so it sends out a contradictive msg if he goes 2 up top so that hits that in the head. agree abt garner as better players than him have took longer to settle but to me he spends so much energy trying to antagonize opposistion players and rolling abt with them to actually concentrate on being a footballer.
20.) 29 Sep 2016 22:44:07
Rick Witter u obv dinna watch rangers mate most gers fans are chockin for moh to get run games instead watchin borin forrester constantly bootin other players and mckay has been absolutly dreadfull this season so by far moh should finally get run games he causes other teams problems and can actually go past players with ease somethin harry forrester can't do fact and its something barrie mckay is strugglin to do since we have went up level he's clearly championship player it best, on other hand ohalloran has proved n dun it in the spl with st johnstone and if players who are way off form and are getting game then i'm sorry this club has problems either warburton has no clue or there havin funny buisness with the manager cause this would never in million years happend under sir walter the smith 100% pure FACT.
21.) 01 Oct 2016 03:01:09
Personally, I think MOH is a one trick pony but, I trust in MW's judgment 100%. I would however like to see a change in our approach to games. Formation, team selection and just general tactics. We have a decent pool of playing staff and a manager that we are lucky to have in my eyes.
Like JB and the rest of pundits/ people down south, they think our league is substandard and the EPL is the best in the world. I don't buy into that. It's the richest in the world but that's it.
Nobody said, or should have said it was going to be easy but we will get there. We just have to keep the blue flag flying high, and get behind our team.
27 Feb 2014 22:28:45
Given Mr Kings statement, this is the latest best opportunity to get behind someone who appears to have the clubs interest at heart. He has now broken ranks and for me we have to trust someone but regardless, this will take serious cash to sort our problems
My suggestion may seem oversimplified but here goes
Out of ~65M shares, the fans individually and collectively have 12% of the shareholding we believe (7. 8M shares)
39M (60%) Shares are held by the 9 named corporate investers who have 3% or more of the shares
This leaves 88% to secure. This could be any where between £17. 2M to £37. 2M (57. 3M Shares @ between 30p sand 65p a share) to get rid of the opportunists.
To control 51% of the club, we need to secure 33. 2M shares which would cost between £10M and £21. 6M.
Mr King bankrolls the purchase of these shares (33, 2M Shares regardless of price) until at least 51% of the club is secured say £21. 6M
40,000 Fans provide an Investment of £750 and lodge the money in the Secure account or enter a legally binding agreement with Mr King to commit to this investment (£30m). This agreement would be secured via the Rangers Supporters Union or other vehicle.
The 40,000 fans pay this £750 over an agreed 4 or 5 year period
This covers securing control of the club and the cost of financing it. As this is paid back by the fans to Mr King, he purchases shares for his own shareholding working toward 100% owner ship of the club (50%Mr King /50% Fan ownership)
The fans continue to pay for their season tickets every year to support the working capital for the club
In addition the fans pay double the season ticket price once every four years to fund the player budget for transfers
Many of you will laugh at the thought of 40,000 fans investing an additional £400 per year for the next 4 or 5 years on top of the ~£400 for the season ticket currently.
We all do plenty of moaning and we have to really ask ourselves what are we prepared to do. I personally see an investment of £4k over 4 years to get the club we want secure and to fund the purchase of players on a sustainable basis as an absolute no brainer. Think of the s*** that we waste £4k on in our lives - what is Rangers worth to you
The alternatives are grim and I refuse to believe that this is not possible. All we need is momentum and a will to do it.
The days of someone else paying for our football are gone and we have no other revenue stream until we rebuild the club. After 4 years, review the plan
I don't like this either, but it is time to get serious or we won't have a club and we only need to look in the mirror for the blame this time.
You forgot to build in a mortality rate, with Ally as manager it may be significantly high.
On a serious note the Board did indicate further investment would be needed and sought in the summer, so what DK is asking for will happen. However the Board do not want these funds just to be used to prop up losses for a year and want cuts.
DK doesn't want the cuts and doesn't believe they can raise money against the assets.
This whole chess game is about forcing the shareholders to dilute their shares or else.
2.) Its a very laudable idea but many sb holders struggle to be able to pay what they have to pay but do u think d king will bank roll everything then hand club over for no profit and no gaurntee how he will recoudont think so his retoric at the minute is only trying to push down the ssshare price making it cheaper to take control and possibly he maybe does not want to push to hard being happy to pick up whatever shares he can at the price that suits then make the big push this time next season when the present shareholders have absorbed the losses next season driving the price lower
3.) What if the people holding the shares refuse to sell?
4.) Lbj d pushing share pric down does not make it cheaper to buy whole club, as highest price in last 12mths used in any buyout
king does not want ST money to be handed over in june and gone in sept.
5.) Thats only for the ones he has to offer to buy once he gets to certain % up to that he can pay what he likes when he likes and depending what deals he can make with upporters an other shareholders to he might not need to go as far as that
6.) Imran key here - he ran a stockbroker firm, and in many of the floats the shares are diluted undermining jo-public investors.
There are 30% of shares still held back that could dilute anyones holdings.
7.) Thanks for the responses and all points are clearly valid
@3 This is also valid but the goal for all of these Institutional Investors is to make money so unfortunately we will have to give it to them sooner or later. I would prefer sooner as things never get cheaper. If we don't the club will die a slow death or take 10 years to get back to any kind competitive level with Celtic.
As Mr King has rightly pointed out, the club is unsustainable without the season tickets. We hold the power and it is about time we exercised it.
Are we really prepared to be treated like this every year when season tickets come round.
Mr Wallace had the chance to win us all over by answering the 10 or so key questions which would satisfy 95% of the fans. He has either chosen not to or is bound by some other constraint (either stockmarket or contractual). It makes no difference to us what his excuse is. We are the customer and a business with out customers fails. let's not pretend we are going to Ibrox for the quality of the product, this is pure loyalty and faith in what our club was not what it is now and also in a group of people who deserve no such respect.
8.) N7 yes its loyalty to our football team and we all know what dave king is up to we are better with the devil we know so ime all for sideing with dave king a supporter that has rangers at heart not like the current board they are only there for money we know dk will be looking to earn but that's not his one and only priority
12 Feb 2017 22:31:50
Super I am well aware of his record but must admit I had forgotten that he had got Derby promoted to the premiership. It has to be said he is considered not good enough to manage in the premiership as he has worked there for half a season. I am not aware of his private life so have nothing to say on this.
The fact that he has got to the play offs so often with a great chance of promotion only to fail when it really matters, I consider to be consistent failure
We are allowed to disagree on this. I mean the man no harm and my opinion like yours really means nothing but not for me
12 Feb 2017 17:16:52
You are correct he did get promotion with Derby but was sacked very quickly in his premiership career. Ultimately he has failled to make the grade at the top level and has track record of falling out with his various boards
11 Feb 2017 14:18:44
Billy Davies has failed every time he tried to get promotion from the Championship where is his track record of success. Likewise Pardew as he has failed at every club he has been at. I cannot understand the fascination with either.
28 Sep 2016 22:08:44
27.5p per share which is the apparent going rate.
Yep who is selling it seems difficult to find this information out.
28 Sep 2016 20:41:16
I see another 1m shares in Rangers (3 separate transactions) purchased today. Anyone any idea who is buying.
11 Jan 2017 08:28:44
I agree completely All of the clubs in England are in huge debt but are slowly clawing it back through the sky deal. Celtic are the only exception as through good management, timing and a slice of luck are probably one of the only clubs who are essentially debt free.
11 Jan 2017 08:06:53
I like you have no conclusive proof for my opinions, but have read extensively on al aspects of Rangers ownership since Craig Whyte set the pressed the button for destruction.
I do honestly think that DK has made nothing from Rangers to recover his original investment and his more recent investments.
As you put it I think he was thrown under the £20m bus. As I have noted on this pages a number of times where is the evidence of his mechanism for return on investment through accountancy loophole or otherwise
The same cannot be said about CG or MA who have creamed of between them millions from a Rangers over the last 4 years. There is definite proof of that
10 Jan 2017 21:45:27
DK is probably £30-35m in total down on his Rangers dealings over the years as we stand today. There is currently no realistic opportunity to recover what he has spent. Please tell me how we will make any money from a club with no revenue stream and no one to buy his shares. The share price has been 27p for the last 18 months
09 Jan 2017 18:43:01
He was prepared to invest to ensure that the Club survived but he later pulled back when others came into the picture. My understanding at the time was that the money he would have invested was from a fund controlled by him and selected other investors. The money was never his solely to invest.
There is very good reason why he has the personal wealth he does and Rangers currently does not offer a viable investment so not surprised he has not committed It would be great if he did though
06 Jan 2017 12:26:01
PB1 you are so right when you say another good Scottish talent wasted. He is one of many in a long line who overrate there own ability at the age of 20 yrs old. Guys like Feruz. Allan, Fyvie, Wilde, Ness, Fleck, Wilson, May and possibly even Ryan Gauld have all moved somewhere too early instead of developing and learning their trade so that they could maximise their career.