18 Jun 2026 14:48:22
Some fans are needing a factory reset of their ambitions for the club / manager.
After years of the club, team and various managers underachieving, some are falling into the trap of lowering expectations.
Willing to accept a poor season from McInnes in the name of stability.
Willing to accept a title that breaks Celtics dominance but not a lot else.
Willing to accept beating Celtic in the league games without actually winning titles.
Willing to give a "Rangers man" time without actually seeing or demanding progress.
And the list goes on.
Well, I'm sorry.
Not for me.
McInnes has signed until 2029.
I'm expecting him to deliver his own legacy as a Rangers manager.
2 out of the next 3 titles. ✅
Domestic cup winner every season. ✅
Reputation re-earned at Europa League level as a minimum. ✅
Developing / giving youth a pathway to the first team. ✅
The above is a bare minimum. Not celebrating stopping Celtic winning 6/78 or 9IAR with no further progress and back to the beginning again.
I want to see Rangers being back to the dominant force in Scotland into the 2030's and beyond.
18 Jun 2026 16:07:17
First and foremost we need to win something. We need stability, though more than anything. New managers every few months is just terrible for the players and the fans. Unless you stumble on a miracle worker who wins the league, you're not building much momentum with 4 managers in 4 years etc. McInnes might not be everyone's cup of tea. "Failed at sheep, failed at Hearts." What did Big Eck ever do before he came to us? Not winning a trophy for Hearts and Aberdeen should never be a stick to beat someone in, especially when we ourselves can't win a trophy.
It might not be pretty. It might not be an overnight success. But, unless he loses his first 5 games in a row, Del has to be given time to build something here.
18 Jun 2026 16:12:04
Everyone wants a successful Rangers, Mph, but the way we go through management is a major reason we go trophies less. We go about McInnes winning a cup with the clubs he's been at, some expecting him winning leagues with Aberdeen or Hearts, that would be some achievement, and if he'd done that he wouldn't be our manager right now, it needs to be remembered we've won three in that time.
Some even put his win rate with St Johnstone, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock and Hearts, mental. Alex McLeish had a worse win rate at Hibs and Motherwell.
18 Jun 2026 16:16:52
Not sure if that's a realistic bare minimum Mph, but it would be nice. I think the team playing good football, good runs in Europe again and 2 leagues out of 3 would do me. The cups as well would be a massive jump up from the last 15 years, so would be a bonus.
In terms of not accepting anything less, what do you plan to do to not accept whatever happens? There is a difference between seeing things as they are and wanting poorer results. Good post though.
18 Jun 2026 16:23:37
Well said, Mr Ph.
18 Jun 2026 16:34:16
Agree Mph. Hearts have shown a serious challenge can be made with a limited budget. Up to Rangers to put in place the personnel and structure to take us forward and back to where we belong.
As a side question to those itk. What happened to Dr. Did he push to leave / encouraged to? Be interested to know what happened.
Thought he would be here for at least a full season with his team etc. and would think turning around a club like Rangers would be good for anyone's CV. I know family back in Germany has been mentioned, but this was known for him, so it is surprising if this is all it's down to.
18 Jun 2026 16:35:38
Going thru managers isn't the major reason we go trophyless. It's appointing the wrong managers in the 1st place and recruiting badly.
18 Jun 2026 16:42:17
Kasier, totally disagree. The reason is none get long enough, all because of impatient fans.
18 Jun 2026 16:48:03
Yet Celtic went through 3 managers last season and still won the league, so what exactly does waiting and giving time do exactly? If a manager is good enough we will know in the first couple of months.
How many of said previous managers over the past 10 years would love to be in the position we are in right now, a board that has spent and will continue to back the manager allowing us a strong team on the park as well as off it.
Quick question though for all these Scottish core guys, you are now happy we have a Scottish manager, a Rangers man and someone who knows the league. My question is, what if he doesn't deliver?
Btw, Mph, bang on with this post, we have lowered standards way too much and fully agree with your take on it.
18 Jun 2026 16:52:30
Good post, Mr PH. About time we started being Rangers again and be looking to win everything we enter.
18 Jun 2026 16:57:22
I'm not sure we are just willing to accept McInnes. I think we genuinely believe he will improve us.
I was fine for Rohl to be given a pre season and another chance but he chose to leave after a mediocre season from him.
Hopefully McInnes brings back the trophies. Pressure will be on him like any other manager we have had to deliver the league.
18 Jun 2026 16:57:32
Bigbluejim, he doesn't deliver, he'll be shown the door like the rest of our managers over the last few years, but some thinking he'll win the league with Aberdeen or Hearts is just silly.
18 Jun 2026 16:58:53
We struggle because the board panics and sacks managers too quickly, which leaves us stuck with a messy, mismatched squad. Whenever we fall behind Celtic, the board feels the pressure from fans and axes the manager, completely changing the team's playing style every time.
Because there is no long-term plan, the club ends up with a bloated dressing room full of expensive players who were signed by previous bosses and don't fit the new guy's system.
By constantly looking for a quick fix on the bench instead of fixing how we recruit players, we just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over.
18 Jun 2026 16:58:53
We struggle because the board panics and sacks managers too quickly, which leaves us stuck with a messy, mismatched squad. Whenever we fall behind Celtic, the board feels the pressure from fans and axes the manager, completely changing the team's playing style every time.
Because there is no long-term plan, the club ends up with a bloated dressing room full of expensive players who were signed by previous bosses and don't fit the new guy's system.
By constantly looking for a quick fix on the bench instead of fixing how we recruit players, we just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over.
18 Jun 2026 17:01:13
Also, thinking McInnes has to be an instant success next season is the exact same trap because it expects a new manager to instantly fix deep, long-term club problems. McInnes could be a good appointment who knows the league, but he is still walking into a bloated, mismatched squad left behind by previous bosses.
If the board and the fans demand that he instantly wins the league title in his very first season, they are just setting up another panic-and-sack scenario.
Real success takes time to build a proper squad identity, and if everyone loses patience the second there's a bump in the road, and just fire him, clear the decks. We just start the whole broken cycle all over again.
So, yes, I want success, but unless we give someone time, then we will just continue to fail and never win anything other than the odd trophy.
18 Jun 2026 17:07:33
Success doesn't happen overnight, but we never give any manager time or patience for building a successful squad. Can only hope that revolving door ends with a successful McInnes. I'm looking for progress, and hopefully the league next season, but progress is the main thing for me.
18 Jun 2026 17:14:58
So, we should just be patient with the likes of Martin despite how bad the results are? Shame, Celtic don't agree with you either and sacked Nancy and appointed a proper manager instead.
18 Jun 2026 17:21:09
Nope Kaiser, seen he wasn't going to work, but Clement should have got longer, he was building a squad, or GVB, European final, sc, Champions League the first time of asking, sacked after a year, even when he had a crippled squad.
18 Jun 2026 17:22:34
Kaiser, only because they seen Nancy wasn't working.
18 Jun 2026 17:54:40
Kaiser, that is never what is being said though. I am talking about when we go on a bad patch of results, or if we don't win a league, then we sack the manager. That isn't what successful teams do imo, or evidenced by successful clubs. Look at Arsenal and Arteta as the most recent example of the need to build.
If the club think the manager is on the right track, then keep him and let him build.
Or, if you want to sack when managers don't win the league, then stop giving them any say in recruitment. Buy players for the way the club wants to play, and then hire the manager to fit in. Probably cheaper, but not any more successful.
18 Jun 2026 19:40:48
Arsenal and the English league are a big difference from Rangers and the Scottish league, Angus. Gerrard only got 3 seasons, as we were that far behind squad-wise and cash-wise, and it would take time. We are at a point now where a different manager and a decent transfer window can win you the title.
I'm all for continuing with the manager when you can see us improving and the direction we are heading in. We will never know if DR would have gone on to win the title, but personally I think the majority could not see it happening.
18 Jun 2026 20:05:49
4 managers in 4 years, how many Celtic have and they won a double?
Mph, you are 100% correct, standards need to be met, and he needs to at least win something this coming season for sure.
18 Jun 2026 20:22:53
My star, I can't understand some saying about Derek McInnes's win rate being not good as his win % record at both Aberdeen and Hearts is pretty good. 🤔 🇬🇧 You can just never please/satisfy some, as they'll always find fault, what an outlook. 👎 😲
18 Jun 2026 20:26:16
Think you missed my point, Mystar, I'm asking what then? As he is all the things I mentioned and so many are stating it's what we need, a Scottish core. So if he doesn't deliver, what will we be saying next, that we need better quality and our Scottish core just isn't of the required standard?
18 Jun 2026 20:26:20
I'm actually, for once, backing McInnes to win the league, which is unusual for me.
18 Jun 2026 20:35:08
Bigbluejim, Rangers should have Scottish players in our squad with any manager. Plenty good enough for our squad, 8/9 out of a squad of 26/28.
18 Jun 2026 20:37:07
Plus the fact I believe McInnes, whatever set he uses, with a better quality of player, it can and will only improve it. Let's see how he goes, Bigbluejim.
18 Jun 2026 20:38:14
We are assuming McInnes will improve, as he will have a better budget than he had at Hearts.
Who will be identifying players & sanctioning signings?
Will McInnes have major say, as the present system has not exactly been a roaring success?
Was McInnes' season at Hearts down to players identified by Blooms system, being a success in general (if 2nd is seen as that)?
Only time will tell, & let's hope we get off to a good start.
18 Jun 2026 21:12:42
Correct, Angus. 👍 Derek McInnes isn't a magician and will need time to get his own players signed and to get his style of play across. 🤔 We need patience, and that's our jobs, the supporters, and stability, and I honestly believe McInnes is the manager to bring all these things together and he'll do everything to achieve this because he's one of us. 👌🇬🇧
18 Jun 2026 22:41:42
Since Gerrard, Celtic have had Rodgers, Lennon, Kennedy, Ange, Rodgers, Martin, Nancy and Martin. We had Gio, Beale, Clement, Ferguson, Martin, Rohl. They've gone thru more managers than us, but been more successful. It's not as much about patience and time, but about the right man. Hoping McInnes is that man.
19 Jun 2026 09:35:40
So like Arsenal, you are willing to give McInnes 7 years until he wins the league, Angus?
Which means Celtic will have won 13IAR, numerous domestic cups.
And in the same 7 years, going by Arsenal, Rangers will have:
1 title.
1 SC.
1 LC.
Jesus wept. There is lowering standards, then there is lowering standards.
