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27 Sep 2016 00:31:20
Why is it that many fans think that now we're in the top league we should immediately be able to compete and be back to pre 2012 form. A lot of us need to let go of nostalgia abd take a reality and the levels we used to perform to, giving the management team time to get the recipie right. We have a young team and relatively inexperienced when it comes to the speed and intensity of Scottish football. I do agree that we could be more adaptive in our formations and systems to encounter all challenges but it will come good. Changing manager will only further cause more instability at the club and delay our progress. Put it this way it's the same in all walks of life, when we start a new job we are not expected to hit the ground running immediately, we are all given time to adapt and grow. 11 new players in. They need their chance!
1.) 27 Sep 2016 06:33:23
You obviously did not hear Warburton, King and Miller come out and talk about how we had a squad capable of challenging for the league and that we could compete with Celtic.
Perhaps if they had all kept their powder dry then the fans would not have thought we would compete this season.
2.) 27 Sep 2016 07:28:21
Challenge doesn't mean win.
3.) 27 Sep 2016 08:22:09
Do you think we're challenging RossW1995?
4.) 27 Sep 2016 09:19:33
Don't you think, given our budget, we should be able to beat teams like Hamilton, Killie and Ross County?
9 points out of 21 and no win in 4 games in unacceptable!
5.) 27 Sep 2016 10:16:25
I believe Kenny miller said we were better than Celtic and that the aim was to win the league.
Dave king said our objective is to compete for the title this season.
Mark Warburton said rangers have enough quality to challenge Celtic for the title.
It does not matter if you personally believe them, the point I am making is Warburton, King and Miller only have themselves to blame for the fans believing we would be challenging for the title. So don't blame the fans who thought we were going to challenge for the league, blame the people who said we would.
6.) 27 Sep 2016 12:24:54
Boss your correct mate they did say that but let's be honest they are not going to say anything else before a ball was kicked. Season tickets had to be sold mate. Simples.
7.) 27 Sep 2016 12:29:15
what do you want them to say? that we are not good enough? that celtic are far better? that's a sure fire way not to get the players up for it.
8.) 27 Sep 2016 13:31:11
You are out of step with reality in respect of 'New jobs'! When you are headhunted into a Company, (especially one with problems), you are not only expected to hit the road running but in a relatively short space of time you are expected to make a major improvement in the Companies bottom line and then build on that. The same is true when you go into a Company that is in development mode.
In a turnaround situation you have a wide range of objectives from replacing non performers to growing the top line and cutting expenses and you need to get it right first time in terms of targeting who you will keep and who you bring in. (This generally means having a budget for new hires and, in case of need a budget for redundancies) .
If I attempt to draw parallels then in year one the new manager exceeded expectations by winning promotion and getting to a major cup final. The people that he brought in to help him do the job certainly improved the 'business'. So in year two he is expected to build on that but for me that is where the comparison with business ends. In business you bring in a team that you know with some confidence will deliver your business plan objectively for the next 3 to 5 years.
Budgets are already agreed based on financial achievements. Warburton's budget could not be determined by that for two reasons,
(i) there is little financial benefit in the short term in moving to the Scottish Premier Division from the Championship for Rangers, (since they generally secure high Home Gates and the only increase in income in the short term comes from price increases) .
(ii) Warburton did not have the financial support of the Board to build a team to win the Championship that could progress to be in the top 2 or 3 in the Premiership; that, rightly or wrongly had to be deferred until Summer 2016).
Warburton has to be seen as being successful in securing the two Accrington Boys but the fact is that to put a team on the pitch that could challenge Celtic and be confident of a top two finish significant investment was required. This was not forthcoming.
So if you want to draw a comparison with business, having turned the Company round, the guy in charge of operations was not given the budget to take the Company to the next level and as a result it stagnated. In Warburton's case we will never know whether he saw Hill, Barton, Krancjar and Senderos as his preferred choices or even second choices. I suspect it is highly unlikely.
What is more, he has been let down by players that performed to a reasonable level in the lower league but are struggling for whatever reason in the slightly better top league. Personally I have serious doubts about the personnel that the manager has at his disposal including all of the aforementioned, his two centre backs, Wallace, (in respect of his leadership qualities), new acquisitions, Rossiter, Crooks and Windass in terms of their fitness and McKay in terms of his ability to cope with the step up.
Warburton deserves time, assuming that he can get eleven fit players and the funds to bring in the players that he really needed in the summer and that included a leader!
9.) 27 Sep 2016 13:53:19
boss hogg got to agree with cee and lance mate what is it u expected to come out of the mouths of rangers players .
"we would be happy to finish top half of the table this season!
fans would have gone aff their nut .
plus you have got to believe that when u play for a team like rangers or celtic .
if u don't then u don't get a game.
10.) 27 Sep 2016 17:07:15
I totally understand why it was said but my point still stands, if people at the top of our club are saying these thongs publicly, then they need to accept it will raise fans expectations and if they don't deliver they will come under pressure.
Surely it would have been more sensible to say - it is going to be extremely difficult to catch Celtic but we will try our best. But our main aim this season is to consolidate our place in the SPFL and to get back into Europe. By doing this fans wouldn't have felt lied to and our fan's expectations would have been more realistic. Not only that the manager, players and Dave king would be under less pressure right now.
11.) 28 Sep 2016 23:21:00
It is the manager's job to motivate the players and to get the support onside so I can fully understand his comments. It is the Chairman's job to provide the resources to support the Manager. King has been full of hot air for a long time, if anyone is to blame for filling the support with the belief that we would finish top two and would have the players to do so, it was him. For me he is just another David Murray! Full of moonbeams and empty promises. As a Chairman you don't say that you are going to front end load the funds to allow the manager to bring in the quality needed and then end up where your 'Marquee signings are three geriatric freebies!
Warburton can only use the tools he has been given and I doubt that Walter Smith would have done any better with some of the players that we now have at the club.
23 Sep 2015 08:50:46
Disappointing result last night but maybe everyone should calm down and look at it for a minute.
We were caught out at the back plain and simple. We have enough in defence for the championship but Wilson is being caught out pace wise quite often now. The defence coming up to support the midfield is leaving too much distance for them to cover on the counter attack. A tactic that all teams we play now will now adopt. They have to sit deeper or drop Wilson for Ball.
Anyway, maybe last night had to happen. We were all getting a little carried away with how good we have been. The team has hit a lull over the last few games scoring less and now defeated. These players hadn't tasted defeat until now and possibly its a good thing that they have. They seem like a tight knit group and play for the full 90 mins. Look at the pressure applied in the last half hour last night. let's give them the benefit of the doubt and look at the positives rather than negatives. We are on the way back and better this happened in League Cup rather than Scottish Cup. In Warburton we trust.
1.) 23 Sep 2015 10:30:18
I agree airus blue. As I've said before and others too, there was no way we were going to go throughout the entire season without losing or drawing games. Even in our nine-in-a-row years we lost games! Not getting the chance to see many games as I live on the south coast of England, I had avidly read all the reports in newspapers and comments on here and was looking forward to the game. I was disappointed. St. Johnstone were nothing special though they did win the Scottish Cup last season. The third goal killed any chance of coming back. Had we scored that goal early in the second half then it would have been a different story. I thought that when we went forward we did so quickly and with pace. Outstanding player for me was Waghorn. Defence looks shaky in the middle and don't fancy the goalkeeper. I like Tavernier and Wallace. I'd have played Barrie Mackay from the start and maybe now it is time to give Shiels, Ball, Hardie and Aird a run. No need to panic though - I'd rather be out of the cups and win the league at a canter. Hearts' bubble has burst in the SPL with three straight defeats so they are beginning to find it hard to adjust to the higher level.
2.) 23 Sep 2015 11:15:42
U can't just ignore the negatives of which there were plenty. How many great saves did their keeper make? Face it we were comfortably beaten by an average team. That performance is where we are at the moment and there is still a big gap between us and average premiership sides let alone the Celtics and Aberdeens
3.) 23 Sep 2015 13:12:18
Who said there wasn't negatives...what I am saying is were in a process of becoming the better team that we want to be. It can't happen over night and has only been three months since this team was assembled. We are ahead of plan but have a ways to go yet to be able to compete.
4.) 23 Sep 2015 17:05:54
Alrus, it sounds to me your towing the warburton party line, the way the team is set up is the problem, and I think he didn't show st Johnstone the respect they were due. A well drilled team, and let's face it, are not known for scoring lots of goals.
1.) 16 Sep 2015 20:27:16
It's not only the football that stinks under Deila, the fans are in on it also.
2.) 16 Sep 2015 21:15:16
It's a conspiracy so it is - I think it stinks!!
3.) 16 Sep 2015 22:59:11
Typical media not investigating Facts. You will find it's done the rounds all down south taking the Michael out of Dif clubs, fans passing it on & naming the club that has had a complaint Yet typical Banter is taken as the truth pmsl
4.) 17 Sep 2015 08:55:34
Celtic have comfirmed it they sent letters out!so it's not banter it's true. Pmsl
5.) 17 Sep 2015 14:55:41
Ajax to wipe them clean tonight
6.) 17 Sep 2015 20:09:21
Hooly you're another that believes the 'Guff' that pathetic journalists that print just for a reaction to try and punt their papers.
7.) 18 Sep 2015 14:55:19
They would be better checking when we are getting back on exchange etc far more interest in that, than a few smelly people.
8.) 18 Sep 2015 17:22:41
This is not banter or jokes or an advertising gimmick but FACT.
9.) 18 Sep 2015 23:54:46
Steffantos my daughters man his brother and father also got them, now in there defence I can say they are a well to do wealth family, house in Lennie bought and paid for years ago, they are immaculate, apart from that i would not allow there relationship if he was bogging, and neither would my daughter, she is a civil servant, that earnes a lot of money, so though I couldn't prevent there relationship, she choose well, they are well matched.
10.) 19 Sep 2015 00:55:30
Maybe they wash with vanish, thus we can never see them at there games, only a suggestion, lol.
11.) 19 Sep 2015 16:03:43
Steffantos if I was you I would use the word guff as seldome as I ever needed to, unless you have a different meaning for the word 'guff' than most people, ie most of you are 'guffing' according you your club.
16 Sep 2015 13:24:20
So the great unwashed statement is true after all. Lol
14 Aug 2015 21:26:23
The thing that gets me about this whole Allan to Celtic thing is that it seems so short sighted. Allan is obviously unsettled at jobs now. but has the chance to sign a precontract in January with a great chance of Hibs wanting to offload the same month.
Now we find (if the rumours are true) that he'll be loaned back to Hibs for the rest of the season. So rangers in the scenario 6 months of Hibs play but going to Celtic he is looking at the full season back there.
All this comes down to is money. I'm sure if he wanted to go to rangers on January, best mate Halliday could have passed a message for him looking for reasurance he wouldn't be left out to dry. It's his choice but it's a reactive daft one if you ask me.
12 Sep 2016 13:27:53
Absolute cr*p timothy. We've been on a beating before and came back stronger. Mind the 6–2 you lot won on 27 August 2000, well guess what the next result on was Rangers 5–1 Celtic on 26 November 2000. It's part and parcel of supporting a team, but you lot wouldn't know that mind set. Enjoy your spoils for the meantime.
31 Aug 2016 09:28:58
I can't see us selling our top goal scorer at this time. If a bid was accepted (which I doubt) Warburton would be extremely unhappy about it. He's trying tool up to take on Celtic not the opposite. There is probably interest but remember he came from a higher level English team. To go to Bristol would be a step backward. Their all up here having lost their way, to put themselves in the shop window for EPL moves.
27 Jul 2016 13:58:45
Spent force. We can do better than David Villa at 34 years old.
21 Jul 2016 08:30:04
The clue is in the name of the site 'Rangers Rumours'. Don't wanna hear rumours then don't log on. Simple.
23 Jun 2016 10:20:07
Superb! What a signing. I can't wait to see this new team in action.
24 Oct 2016 11:34:10
Our realistic target for this season is second place with an entry into the UEFA cup. Even that is going to be a hard slog. This should always have been the case but the fans would not have accepted that coming from the club. We cannot get back up to the premiership and automatically expect to run-a-mock because we're Rangers and that's what the fans expect, winning the title!
We were comprehensively beaten in Septembers old firm game. Yesterday was hardly a demolition and a step in the right direction. The squad we have held up to yesterdays challenge but we need further seasoned additions in January to even reach second place in the league. The BetFred Cup has no entry into Europe, so no big deal there on the loss apart from the hurt of being beaten by them. It's not an OF loss in the league and doesn't put any further point difference between us and them. There is also nothing to say that the form of our competitors will not dip over the season. Keep the faith, no scapegoat required.
07 Oct 2016 11:15:41
Best player but worst attitude. You can't undermine your manager in front of other staff. that's not professional. The same way they shouldn't berate you in front of other staff. Barton is very outspoken and needs to curb his enthusiasm, realising he is still a player and not the manager. He's been employed for his football skills not his opinion or soundbites. I do however want him back in the team in a 3-5-2 formation playing two wingbacks (Wallace and Tavernier) .
25 Sep 2016 16:37:07
Fodderingham must be dropped. A keeper should not be getting beat at his near post for the first goal. The freekick was a belter but yet again should not be getting beat at near post. Ball was in the air long enough to position yourself and react. Defence is rubbish but goal keeper is at fault most times for making stupid errors that are costing the team. Still behind warburton but he's got to drop the old pals act. As soon as Gordon's form dipped at Celtic he was replaced. Same should be happening here!
20 Sep 2016 15:27:51
The media are really doing their best now to vilify the guy. Yes he's outspoken but we knew this before he arrived. Give him a chance to reflect and get back into the team. Any rational man would dig in and prove the doubters wrong. I feel that Barton will do this. He should have been banished to the reserves and retained a fitness level. Banned for three weeks but realistically not in contention for two months until he regains fitness, unless he's been given a regime to keep him up to scratch.
He hasn't turned into a bad player, so far he just hasn't adapted to our game. It's been downplayed as a mugs league for years. It's a quick and physical league.
15 Sep 2016 20:41:56
The thing that gets me about this whole Barton situation is warburton said that they do massive checks on any player before they are signed by the club. Barton hardly came without a good bit of baggage, so I feel that the aforementioned system was overlooked in his case. i
I'm still not going to judge the guy as he obviously can play and there has been a bust up on the back of the Celtic result. There has been too much tinkering to the midfield in in the first part of the season. I'd rather there be busy ups showing a frustration and a willingness to work through them, gelling and playing well rather than just simply not caring.
Don't write Barton off yet. He is a good player but will be hopefully learn that Scottish football isn't the walk over its perceived to be down south. You do not get as much time on the ball.