08 Dec 2025 07:40:11
A new day so don't mind if I start a new thread about something u said last night EHL. U still don't think any hearts player other than Baningame makes our current XI. And few even make our current squad? This came from before this weekend too. I find this interesting as I think most Rangers fans wouldn't chose many of our own players in our XI either.
Before Saturday none of our Strikers were scoring unlike the hearts forwards and our midfield /wingers are said not to create enough chances, while our defence has been a shambles for a while now whereas hearts have looked pretty solid most of the time.


U must really rate McInnes highly then. Not suggesting we target their players as I hope we sign better but just a comparison between the current squads I'd have more than 3or4 ahead of some of ours.

08 Dec 2025 08:19:52
Kaiser the difference is ability against current form. so yes Hearts players may be playing better than us at the moment but our squad has more ability, technique etc. if we can get them to have the same level of confidence and coaching then we will see that come to the fore.

as fans we are always so concerned about the here and now, which is important but we also need to be looking at how we are set as a club in years to come, which is more important imo.

08 Dec 2025 08:30:28
From going on what i have seen this season so far i think 3/4 Hearts players start for us. Its all about opinions though. Everyone's entitled to their own.

08 Dec 2025 07:45:57
Milne Bannigimie braga katsoridos apologies for misspelling and Shankland improve not only our squad but our first team.

08 Dec 2025 08:51:51
I'd take their whole defence (for starters) see how many threw themselves at Tierney in the last minute, can't see ANY of ours doing that tbh.

08 Dec 2025 09:17:31
Angus this was more a follow on from a previous conversation about a combined squad comparison rather than a view on the future. Similar with what is often done with Celtic. With a good January I expect us to overtake eventually. McInnes must be some manager if his squad is worse off in just about every position.

And our recruitment can't have been that bad if they are all better than the league leaders. Would be perhaps interesting to hear a Hearts fans point of view of which Rangers players they would take in place of theirs. Make for a good discussion I reckon.

08 Dec 2025 09:57:01
Brilliant from a Jambo on Talksport this morning. If he found Devlin in bed wi his missus he'd tuck him in. Nearly choked. Hilarious. 😂😂😂.

08 Dec 2025 10:32:12
Kaiser. it is that they have players all on form at the moment and ours weren't/arent due to the Martin debacle. as an example would you have Raskin or Devlin in your team. Yes Devlin is playing well at the moment but most would agree Raskin is the better player.
so given the saying that form is temporary but ability/class is permanent I think is the view on who you would want in your team.

so in comparison down south would you say the Everton or Sunderland teams players are better ability wise than the Liverpool team or are they just showing better form at the moment.

08 Dec 2025 10:41:23
Braga, the Greek boy, Shankland, Milne, Halket, Baningame and Devlin all improve our team and are better than what we have. That's why we are struggling in 4th place🤦‍♂️.

08 Dec 2025 10:46:30
Hearts defence performing well Rangers not so I ask people to check goals scored against there isn't much in it at all.

08 Dec 2025 10:47:20
Hearts have 13 against and we have 13 against.

08 Dec 2025 10:50:44
I don't know if they all get in the staring 11 Oliver but would definitely take all of them would like Milne and braga the most.

08 Dec 2025 11:18:19
OK Angus u pick arguably our biggest sellable asset for comparison. Point was that was said practically none would even make our squad. Not that we don't have some better players. Liverpool also have a team full of champions so can judge on what they've done before, and they also sign players from teams from their league so view them as comparable.

Same can be done with looking at Hearts squad. Their defence can certainly compare not just on form with ours esp Djiga and Aarons. Quite a few others would be upgrades on our squad players if not starters like Rothwell, Dowell, Matondo, maybe even Danilo, Chermiti, Aasgaard and Antman.

08 Dec 2025 11:27:32
Angus your comparison between Liverpool, Sunderland and Everton has no bearing on Hearts and us but I do see the point you are trying to make but unfortunately it doesn't exist. Hearts do have some better players than us that would walk into our team and improve us.

Our summer recruitment wasn't good enough. Milne is better than Meghoma, Shankland is better than Chermiti and Danilo, Braga and the Greek boy are better than Antman and Gassama. Just a few examples.

08 Dec 2025 11:28:44
Angus, hold on to your hat - I agree!

Hearts players are definitely in better form, but also beyond that they are asked to play on a way that plays to their strengths - which is why I do really rate McInnes.

Halcket being the perfect example. He's levels below Souttar in pretty much every aspect of his game.

However the way Hearts set up are designed not only to play to his strengths, but also to protect his weaknesses.

I know this got a reaction the last time, but Braga is not a patch on Antman. Both Moore and Gassama are better than Kyzi and Miovski is better than Shankland.

I would take Braga and Shankland in the squad though.

08 Dec 2025 11:56:49
Different ball game comparing Hearts to us, the pressures at our club are far greater, Hearts aren't expected to win any prizes and great if they do, we demand success and that brings more pressure onto players and especially young players if they are struggling with their form already.


Niko Raskin has got more ability than Cammy Devlin but he has to show it, Russell Martin is gone now and some of the players brought in are still not performing or Rohl isn't playing them so feel we have to move on from that.

08 Dec 2025 12:38:44
Rangers won't be struggling fir forth.

08 Dec 2025 11:30:11
ive said for many years Derek McInnes is a very very good manager, i knew him when he was playing at Rangers under sounness and he was Rangers mad, you don't just lose that, he was involved in a few fans clubs and things.

he had a fantastic career at WBA and has indeed done what souness said he would do; become a very good manager.

08 Dec 2025 12:51:42
Braga, Shankland and Devlin would improve our starting 11.

08 Dec 2025 12:59:02
Milne shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Meghoma, one will have a very good career, than other one has about done all he will achieve in the game.

08 Dec 2025 13:21:18
Walter Smith signed McInnes in the 90's 1995/2000.

08 Dec 2025 13:22:46
Thanks for the response guys. Certainly an interesting debate. Getting into our starting XI would be a hard debate depending on form Angus and EHL but when naming a combined squad would certainly name more than 3 or 4 like those suggested. Baningame Braga Shankland and Devlin Kyziwatsiname would make the squad Milne is possibly the best full back in the country at the moment.

Halkett or Findlay would be upgrade on Djiga (tbh I'd probably be an upgrade on him and I'm an overweight 46yr old former goalie who never played at any level above playing 7s with my mates). Good debate tho.

08 Dec 2025 13:23:15
EHL out may surprise you as well but I am in agreement with what you say quite a bit as well 😉. I agree that a couple may improve our squad but if all are playing to the best of their ability (as Hearts are at the moment) then I don't see any making our first team. I think the key words are 'at the moment'.
McInnes had all pre-season to coach the players on a style; Rohl has had at most 1 day between games.

add to that our squad being weak in certain areas and him not having the ideal player for the way he may want to play and we are under-performing. that will improve with time and has already. the question is can Hearts maintain theirs.

08 Dec 2025 13:31:54
Kaiser their defence has let in as many goals as ours and that is with Djiga, Aarons in it and add also Tav and Meghome. does that make them ideal candidates to improve our defence; possibly at attacking corners as the 2 CBs have scored 6 between them.
I chose Raskin as it highlighted the difference in ability so clearly. But you can pretty much pick any position on Transfermarkt and compare the two (havent doe it granted) and it would read the same.

they use ability (amongst other criteria) but not form as that can be short-lived; Liverpool perfect example of that (first 5 or so games were going to walk the league if I remember).
I watched their game yesterday and whilst they won I still think Celtic were better but couldn't convert their chances and Hearts were efficient in scoring theirs and against 'the worst Celtic team'. I did like the workrate they had but expect that from us as well in future.

08 Dec 2025 14:45:19
Our defence thankfully has improved in recent weeks because Rohl has had to adapt our tactics to 5 at the back and cms at times to try and cover up for them possibly at a cost to our attacking. The discussion was based on a combined SQUAD not our star players.

Obviously Raskin is way ahead of any of theirs. If u don't think any of theirs would make our 25 man squad not just the top end that's fine. It's all about opinions and a good debate. 👍.

08 Dec 2025 14:50:05
Mystar, Meghoma is our only LB so why can't we suggest Milne when discussing potential upgrades for a combined squad? Milne can also play RB so perhaps comparison with Aarons and Tav too.

08 Dec 2025 15:53:47
We need a experienced lb signed in January Kasier, you think Milne is good enough? only asking as I've not seen much of him, few weeks ago I asked EHL about him and he said levels down from Souttar.

08 Dec 2025 15:56:33
bar, worth noting not one of them actually got in the way of that shot

4 of them.

08 Dec 2025 16:03:33
you are correct bro, i meant walter smith.

08 Dec 2025 15:54:34
We should be trying to get Meghoma signed if possible.

08 Dec 2025 16:51:21
Kaiser come on now I expect a little better from you 😉. check the line ups and we have played 4 at the back in the league since Dundee; he only played 3 at back for first 2 games (Hibs and Kilmarnock in October).
we have also scored 14 since Rohl arrived in comparison to 8 before he arrived so at the expense of our attack isn't correct either.

however we are discussing at cross purposes. you are asking how many get in our team on current form but I am arguing (as I think EHL is) that there aren't any Hearts players who are better players on ability than ours. Form will come and we can see the start of that recently.

08 Dec 2025 17:06:02
Mystar I wouldn't actually go for many of them. I hope we go for better. It was originally just about making a combined squad from the 2 teams for debate but that seems to have got lost 😂.

08 Dec 2025 17:13:44
EHL, maybe in training, where there isn't any pressure. But the players at Rangers atm struggle to cope with the expectation of the club and fans. They seem to be great until they get near the 18yrd box then they fold constantly.

Constantly making the wrong decisions or poor execution and giving up possession far too easily. They are talented players but not mentally tough enough imo,

07 Dec 2025 22:55:04
Scotland are going to the World Cup but for sure there are no Scottish Referees going, you have to laugh we think have a good league but when you see some of the Referees from other unknown countries that make the grade you half to laugh.

07 Dec 2025 23:43:52
not sure anyone thinks we have a good league.

08 Dec 2025 04:51:41
For the size of country we have our league is good.

08 Dec 2025 06:49:20
Could be a lot better 18 team league wouod be lovely. bottom 3 in playoffs would be fantastic. Not meeting the same club 5 or 6 times a year would be beautiful be easier to loan players and build youth.

08 Dec 2025 07:12:18
Our Refs really are poor.

08 Dec 2025 08:23:50
scrambled where are you seeing this as confirmed referees list for the tournament hasn't been made yet. we have around 10 referees on FIFAs official list and more assistants so I suspect there will be Scottish representation on the officials list.

08 Dec 2025 09:01:09
The refereeing is so poor that people can't tell if its corrupt or continuous incompetence.

08 Dec 2025 13:16:19
We have not had a referee at a major tournament since Hugh Dallas and we won't have one at this tournament either. Even if they don't want to listen to the clubs, this should be the red flag to the SFA about the drop in standards and this should be Collums target to drive improvement.

Though maybe if we had a man in charge who had actually reached that level then he would be in a position to drive improvements.

07 Dec 2025 20:46:09
BB4, do you generally go around pre old aging people? Not a good trait to have.
I've just swapped my zimmer for an 8mph buggy. I will keep the zimmer in the garage for your 60th next year ya cheeky git.

07 Dec 2025 22:56:00
Ha ha, still life in the old dogs yet. 😛.

07 Dec 2025 18:48:54
Starting to get a bit petty in here again, bickering over old arguments, keeping things going, time to move on, Lmac is 100% correct "nothing wrong with robust debate" also Star " once its done, move on".

Time to stop reverting to auld grievances.
Bullying👀 Ed wouldn't allow that, but some persistent posters can keep plugging away at old sores and this inflames others, cue a pile on.

Rumours, can be challenged in a respected way, no need for anyone to be disparaging either way, poster or responder.

Hoth cloudfire alludes to gd posters walking away or not posting due to tension on here, these guys are the lifeblood of the site. They promote debate.

Let's take a breath and be respectful to each other, it's not hard, we can ill afford to lose valued posters by being overly critical to the point people walk away.

I've left a few times for my own reasons, others have too, but, there's always a but, this is a place that u always want to come back to, let's just do what we love, support our team and each other.

I received great support and advice from guys I don't even know, there's a capacity for gd in here, let's use that so we can move forward.

Just a few thoughts guys. Cheers.

07 Dec 2025 19:38:26
Agreed hundred percent Fork, things need too put bed now✌️, a good poster with good knowledge on the game mate✌️.

07 Dec 2025 19:50:44
Exactly fork.

Leave the past in the past. Move on.

Start fresh no need for apologies n debates just get on with things as normal.

07 Dec 2025 19:53:37
Fork, I agree with your post some of the bickering is poor it's time to move on after all we all want the same for our GREAT club.

07 Dec 2025 20:10:30
Great Post fork and seconded.

07 Dec 2025 20:15:11
Fork, i'm two minds on this, in a perfect world yes we are all respectful and hear each another. We move on when the debate is done. We never take offence and repsect everyones opinions, agree that's how it might be in another universe lol.

Ive come to the conclusion in the last few years that unless we break the law any post goes regardless of feelings or opinions it really is a simple as that, if you can't put up with that then just don't post, read or come on.

Edds do a great job on policing the site imo.

If you find yourself getting angry or upset at a reply or post its just your ego talking to you.

If you sulk and don't post for a while, fine again its your choice.

Anyone on here, never change, post what you want without fear of offence its what western democracy was built on.

But I get what your say Fork we can all live in hope.

07 Dec 2025 20:24:24
Well said fork.

07 Dec 2025 19:27:07
Well said fork.

07 Dec 2025 20:29:13
Totally agree, I get all my news on potential signings etc, from this site and it's really repugnant when recently I find a reliable poster basically being called a liar over something he has heard or been witness to, by all means disagree with peoples opinion but if you are going to stoop that low you have no place on here.

07 Dec 2025 20:34:58
Well said Fork.

07 Dec 2025 20:40:21
Fork, good post.
Some great posters on here, that I have an awful amount of time for.
Good to see debates amongst posters, but they should stay respectful.

07 Dec 2025 20:46:42
Cheers guys, just feel its better to take a breath at times, TJ the other side of the coin, and I get that too👍.

07 Dec 2025 20:49:33
The same people stop good posters posting time and time again, it's a tough forum to come to at times but it is always 100% the same people spoiling it for everybody.

07 Dec 2025 21:05:14
In an ideal world you're correct Fork, unfortunately we don't live or post in an ideal world.

07 Dec 2025 21:09:10
Well said Fork. TJBB can see your point up to a point. Doesn't need to be an ideal world tho. It's not that hard to not send abuse or be offensive to complete strangers. And to keep in mind we all have a part in making it a safe place to share views and debates.
In general think there's the right balance of genuine insight and info, as well as strong debate, along with good humour and banter.

As well as times when genuine support is offered when needed. Just can go a bit too far at times and need to pull it back. Like Angus and Asa both said perhaps just need to be more picky which posts to join. If don't like it scroll on.

07 Dec 2025 21:18:44
Your a very decent fellow Fork.

07 Dec 2025 21:29:04
Boom!

Spot on, this should be a place for a bit of craic and debate. No balls between each other.

07 Dec 2025 21:31:53
You are an unbelievably nice guy Fork, I appreciate everything you have done.

07 Dec 2025 21:32:18
Well said Fork.

07 Dec 2025 21:36:06
Cheers TJ😊 also well said Kaiser and gd replies and insight by all👍.

07 Dec 2025 21:58:38
Totally with you on this Fork 👏 Different opinions is fine and what makes this site superb but being disrespectful should never be the focus 👎 We're all human beings and want the same thing for the club we all adore and that should never be forgotten 🤔.

07 Dec 2025 22:03:16
I rarely post now as it was the same bs on rinse and repeat way too often. Too many prefer to criticise or have a dig instead of just reading and moving on if they disagree. Best Gers sight going but some Danny's ruin it.

07 Dec 2025 22:24:03
Square go up the gates ya bams. 😛.

07 Dec 2025 21:37:39
I get what your saying Kaiser but be mindfull on here we don't know our audiance its an open forum to anyone from anywhere, offense and abuse is a personel thing and its the edds jobs to keep it lawful, as long its within those boundaries even though it might hurt someones feelings it should be be posted every time.

07 Dec 2025 23:49:32
TJBB fair point, but if you are going to post with the aim to offend then isn't that disrespectful. i thought we all are meant to have the same objective ie discuss the good and bad about Rangers. not the good and bad about fellow supporters. there are a few on here whose sole objective is to antagonise.

07 Dec 2025 23:55:14
Can't think that I feel there's anything that "should be posted" esp if you think it might hurt feelings. Nothing here is actually that important, unless your meaning speaking out in defence when others go over the line, and even then as u say leave it to the Eds.

Better still make the Eds jobs easier if we don't push it to see how far we can push them and stick to sensible debate instead.

08 Dec 2025 01:47:46
Aye fork u are a lovely guy.

Always had ma back on here even when u don't age with some of my outbursts and whatever I say.

08 Dec 2025 02:24:40
Correct fork, I've had wee in jest digs at a couple before but it was meant as good banter, but that doesn't always translate in writing, guys like yourself bigdado storm Florida etc kept me going during my concerning periods shall we say and gave me the laugh I needed at times, so hopefully folks can see the good in this all and even if we can't all get along can we at least learn to scroll on by and say nothing if we can't always agree?


Sws i'm still at a loss at some of your posts but you know I like you bud 😉.

08 Dec 2025 07:53:52
Fair points as usual Fork,
I kinda agree with TJBB, sometimes people get precious on a rumours site for people disagreeing and other times the usual suspects just want to pick holes in others comments thinking that makes them look clever. In general i'd say the majority of stuff on here is good natured.

08 Dec 2025 08:44:39
Cheers for all the input guys. 👍👍.

08 Dec 2025 12:02:58
Great guy fork always the voice of reason.

08 Dec 2025 13:08:33
If we had a good team and winning every week the bickering would end and not noticed to be fair, seen a glimmer of hope over last two games to see we are creating chances so let's hope our moods and attitude on this site will be on the upturn as well.

08 Dec 2025 14:21:36
Very well said Fork, I totally concur with your excellent post.

08 Dec 2025 14:54:46
the issue is usually when someone takes offence at another guys refs to a player or players, like they must put that player down because of who posted it

i read many players mentioned by posters on here, not one offends or even bothers me, but some people feel a great need to object to someone elses view, i like seeing other clubs players mentioned and i like the debate on the merits of that player, i never sneer or send silly emojis at someone else choice or fancy

its great to hear what players we would like to see.

07 Dec 2025 16:50:40
Now that we know that Miovski can hit the net in the colour blue its time to get him a striking partner that will compliment him. don't think the jams will let shankland or braga go after todays result. they are now officially title contestants and good for them.

07 Dec 2025 16:58:54
Why a partner deecee? tidy finish for his first and very clever for his second.

07 Dec 2025 17:23:56
We need a whole new front 3 and what's there will be back up now.

07 Dec 2025 18:32:52
mccoist hately. Miller brand Johnston stein- Forest Mcclean for starters. all brilliant double acts. and there's more. right now our double act is mince and totty.

07 Dec 2025 19:07:05
Miovski and Shankland would be a great pairing deecee. For the life of me I can't understand why we never got Shankland when he was a free and opted for Chermiti. Shankland had a great game today, never gave their defence a minute and done the dirty work well.

07 Dec 2025 19:40:54
Miovski with Moore deeper.

07 Dec 2025 19:51:40
Isabel Martin and Thelwell are the reasons.

07 Dec 2025 20:22:28
I would take shankland in a heartbeat but the jams won't sell him half way through when they're top.

07 Dec 2025 21:03:05
Yes, Miovski scored 2 but Danilo has also scored 2 a couple of games ago and everyone is jumping on his back again. Miovski needs to do it constantly and not disappear for a couple of games.

Personally I'd give Danilo a run at 10 as he's always been a link up striker/partner and a shadow striker and so far under Rohl, he's played there while Chermiti was upfront and didn't have Miovski.

07 Dec 2025 21:30:42
Good partnerships work well, mccoist and hatley, the two ronnies, hale and pace, little and large, Frankie and benny, rose and Fred, thatcher and Satan, Kyle and sandaza, broon sauce and square sausage, russell Martin and Thelwell, mabye took that too far. 😛.

07 Dec 2025 22:09:23
Danilo not a number 9 for me and his best position is behind the main striker 🤔 Miovski a better/more natural finisher than Danilo absolutely no doubt for me 🤔Miovski is the best no.9 we currently have at Rangers and a natural goalscorer for me and hope now he kicks on in a Rangers jersey 🙏.

08 Dec 2025 14:39:53
I'm hopeful that Miovski is only now achieving proper match sharpness/fitness. He basically admits this when stating that he did not get much game time at Girona.

I really think he could now start to show the kind of form he displayed consistently at Aberdeen not so very long ago, which would be great if that comes true.