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08 May 2026 17:16:07
What point are you trying to prove with this, Mystar?
All that shows me is that both Hearts and ourselves are lucky that Nancy was hired as manager, you know, as he lost 6 of 8 and that the poorest Celtic squad in ages would still be ahead of us going from this.
08 May 2026 17:22:25
The only table that matters is from start of the season to the end of the season, and we are 3rd at the min.
What trophy do we get for topping the table when Rohl came in?
08 May 2026 17:22:43
Good post, BbJ.
08 May 2026 17:44:55
Anybody want to upload a table showing the points totals of the top six clubs since the split?
08 May 2026 17:46:55
Thanks for that Mystar. Interesting stats indeed. I'm not convinced by Rohl myself and I think he will leave us at the end of the season.
08 May 2026 17:55:24
Cheers Carlukeloyal, Bigbluejim, only showing the league after Rohl arrived, some think he's the problem when that table is showing he's not.
Won't even reply to the other.
08 May 2026 18:08:28
If Celtic hadn't appointed Nancy, they would be miles clear of Hearts (and us). However, if we had Rohl in from the start, then we would also have a much higher points tally.
On a normal season, this Hearts team wouldn't be challenging. But fair play to them, taking advantage of both our mistakes.
08 May 2026 18:27:05
Bee poor under Rodgers as well, before Nancy, O'Neill saved their season.
08 May 2026 18:44:21
Mystar, my point being that even though Rohl has done well with this shambles of a squad, if Celtic hadn't appointed Nancy and lost CCV, Johnstone and Jota, and had kept Mon, then we would still be some way behind them.
That's why I don't care what that table shows and only where we are now.
Btw just for context, I still think Rohl should stay, but we can't keep using that table to justify it as there are always extenuating circumstances for each club.
08 May 2026 18:58:12
Nancy didn't lose 6 out of 8 league games, but the argument that "if it wasn't for him" is also true for us, "if it wasn't for Martin".
08 May 2026 19:01:15
Bigbluejim, I know what you're saying, mate.
Give Rohl another couple of windows, unless it goes paired shaped right off. He needs at least one pre season. He was snookered when he first arrived and done well, giving us some hope, favourites before the Motherwell game.
But he does need help responsible for the Motherwell and Hearts game. I'm thinking more so the players; they didn't put in the same workrate like they showed in the first half against Hearts in the second. Hopefully the players signed in the summer help us progress.
08 May 2026 19:30:15
Yeah I'm agreed there, Mystar, but he will only get the summer imo.
With a full pre-season and some better signings, and getting rid of some of these ego players we know he has an issue with, and add in an experienced man behind him, and I think we will see the best of him unless, like you stated, it goes pear shaped quickly.
Wsl, the difference being that Martin got a pre-season and his own signings and still was crap. Nancy didn't get that chance, so we were 100% fortunate about their gamble.
08 May 2026 19:42:29
If my Auntie had balls.
08 May 2026 20:47:39
Can't wait to end of the season to see us lift the when Danny Rohl came in we won the league trophy. 🏆
08 May 2026 21:53:05
Bbj, I love blethering with you in the live chats, although I've not been on them for a while, but I do need to say that post about a bunch of what ifs, basically, can go in our favour too.
What if Skov had been what we expected? What if Naderi and Rommens never got injured? What if we got the Summer window right and appointed Rohl from the start? What if the team had a more physical preseason leading to better physical conditioning? What if the summer recruitment was better?
The facts are the facts, and what ifs can be whatever we want them to be.
The facts are we're 3rd, and until the previous two games, Rohl had the best points total taken over the last 25 games. The facts are also that Rohl has made errors, and we've fallen short. The facts are also that this squad has as much fight in them as a bunch of toddlers that have missed nap time.
I respect you may be happier to see him go, and I wish for him to stay, but my main concern is getting the majority of that squad gutted and replaced.
08 May 2026 22:46:23
Murph, mate, I said I was on the fence regarding Rohl staying or leaving, but I feel he should be given the summer at the very least and then we go from there.
I do agree that we need to get rid of a good chunk of this squad, but we need to get our recruitment bang on, just a wee bit worried that we have recently been linked with Championship and League 1 players again.
Get yourself back on live chats, bud.
08 May 2026 23:02:21
BbJ, it's madness being constantly linked with players from that league when the majority have failed. 🤦♂️
The only league that matters is the one at the end of the season, and the best we can do is 2nd in that, which I doubt will happen.
Rohl was snookered when he came in. We are coming 3rd in a 2 horse race and against the worst Celtic team in 20 years bar the Covid seasons. 🥴
08 May 2026 23:10:59
BbJ, I'll think about it this Sunday, see how I feel lol.
On the Championship stuff I'm fearful of it as well, mate. Scarred from it, you might even say.
On Rohl, I'm probably similar to what Storm has said, 60/40. I'm probably closer to like 70/30. Plenty concerns, but I just think his principles will work well for us.
09 May 2026 00:23:21
I think the Championship problem shows that the quality of football and quality of player in SPL is way better than given credit for.
It's more than a coincidence with the number of failures from that league in SPL. It's also not a particular kind. Defenders like Duffy abso sha* a brick, mf's like Barron and Ljunberg, Juninho and Keane.
Dowell can't well, Krankar.
Good players like Diallo. Maddison done well but not exceptional.
It's not a style that fails, it's a variation and that shows our product is a lot better than they and we think.
09 May 2026 00:46:46
I'll be coming off a nightshift, so I will be on live, but sporadically most likely.
Yeah, when I saw we were linked with a striker from Plymouth I was like oh come on now. Really has scarred me too, bud, just hope it's all paper talk and we are scouting better regions.
I think it was you who had said about Rohl second season at Wednesday, so that has me hopeful he will motor on once he gets his players and a pre-season.
08 May 2026 14:52:33
I keep reading we need a no6 can I ask who in our recent past has been a 6
08 May 2026 15:21:21
Steve Davis. Was that tempo setter?
08 May 2026 15:57:46
Spot on, Ayrshire. 👍 wee Davo was an excellent midfielder who always controlled the tempo with his slippers on. He was a tremendous midfielder. 👌 I wish we had wee Davo here just now, even in his mid 30's. 🙏
08 May 2026 17:39:01
Could Elliot Watt fill that role?
08 May 2026 19:00:51
Elliot Watt does play there but surely we can do better. What about the Danish boy we were linked with or the big German from Koln that is now being linked with Celtic.
08 May 2026 21:40:16
Wsl, why do you think we could do better out of curiosity? Is it because he plays for Motherwell and doesn't play abroad?
I would say Watt is exactly what we need. Not someone who may or may not adapt to our league.
If he can come to Ibrox, Parkhead & Tynecastle and run the show - which he has done - as well as do it at the smaller grounds, then he's the man for me.
08 May 2026 21:47:32
Ryan Jack is the only 6 we've had in recent years imo.
And he was a very good one when fit.
Personally, I disagree and think we need 2 effective wingers and a couple of attack minded midfielders or number 10s.
08 May 2026 14:27:26
If we are going homegrown and Scottish talent we could go for Max Johnston, appreicate Derby bought him last year but a great long replacement? Thoughts?
08 May 2026 16:30:27
Another one that was right under our noses & we let slip. Not seen much of him at Derby, but at Motherwell he was a good RB, had great potential. Derby have had a very good season. I'd have no complaints if we got him in.
08 May 2026 17:13:53
I've been shouting for him for 2 years now.
08 May 2026 19:01:27
Has he not had a bad injury this season.
08 May 2026 14:21:23
Replying to posts further down the banter pages but Gerrard went unbeaten in the league when he stopped ten.
He installed a winning mentality. Not many teams go unbeaten in any league around the world.
08 May 2026 15:26:04
He also lost to the 5th and 7th best league sides in the domestic cups when he should really have won the treble with that "winning mentality" he installed. 🤷♂️
08 May 2026 15:32:36
So we're only paying attention to Gerrard's final season then, and ignoring the bin fire Celtic were that season. Ignoring the COVID struck sides and our minimally hit side in comparison. Yes, one Old Firm we did have a few out, but in the whole our squad avoided it.
Yes Gerrard set standards and a winning mentality. Took him 3 years though to win the league, whilst bottling two free cups with Celtic out of both leading to St Johnstone winning both.
I appreciate Gerrard winning the 10 and was gutted when he left, but I'm also willing to look at the facts that he was given the longest of recent managers and failed at many things, plus a number of factors went in our favour that season. Had it not been for COVID, he would have been sacked end of season 2, and he regularly struggled post winter break and against low blocks.
He found a style that worked eventually, and built a squad that had quality and work ethic.
Whilst some may not like to hear it, the reality is the 55 season is an outlier. It's the odd one out of the last 15. That includes Gerrard's previous 2, and every manager since and before that. We need a clear plan and consistency. That's the only thing we haven't tried since that outlier of a season.
Rohl has had one window and brought in 4 players. 1 of which is one of my favourite players of recent times so far from what I've seen of him (Rommens). I trust Rohl to get it right with the backing of AC next season, and I'm not fussed about Scotsmen or Rangers men. Just get players with the right character and mentality.
08 May 2026 15:52:32
Lost both cup games to last-minute goals - St Mirren in LC after equalising moments before, and in the SC, Zander Clark's last-gasp equaliser for St Johnstone, taking the tie into extra time and penalties.
The point I'm making is the team had a bit of grit and fight, and you could always see green shoots in Gerrard's teams. Who can forget that LC final against them when we literally played them off the park, only to lose to a Frank Conner assisted offside goal.
That day, a combination of astonishing misses by Morelos, including a missed pen, and an unbelievable display by Fraser Forster stopped us winning the cup that year. Fine margins, right enough.
No green shoots for me with Rohl's management and tactics, and imo he has nowhere near the presence and influence that Gerrard had in Scotland.
08 May 2026 16:28:17
It's about how you look at it, though, Seeker. In that case, Rohl only lost in the cup to Celtic on penalties because the players couldn't find the net. We only got knocked out the other because Aasgaard got sent off and the team tired in extra time.
We're only out of the league because of a last minute goal against Motherwell and failing to take chances in other games.
Nobody saw green shoots in season 2 of Gerrard. There is even an interview with Halliday from that time, saying the players are going to get the manager sacked, and plenty posts on socials asking for his head after losing to Hamilton. So let's not rewrite history.
08 May 2026 16:41:49
Was going to say the same thing about fine margins in Cup, Ayrshire. Can't use them for one but not the other. We totally outplayed them, but just couldn't finish the job, and decisions went against us.
What about in the semi where Butland got kicked in the head, and nothing was done. All fine margins. Winning more points than anyone else is surely green shoots of recovery unless u just don't want to see them.
08 May 2026 16:48:56
That's not really true though, Ayrshire, is it? It was still a possibility to win the league after Motherwell, but we bottled it again against Hearts.
08 May 2026 16:59:25
Starting to think we should scrap 55 and forget it happened and just say Gerrard was a total failure.
Will make everyone happy and we won't need to argue over it anymore.
And we can just imagine Celtic is actually
Going for what would that be 15 titles in a row?
08 May 2026 17:04:14
BB4, but is that Rohl's fault? He knows what needs changed. We aren't willing to give him one decent window. Do you think Gerrard would have won the league this year with the crop of players we have?
08 May 2026 17:52:23
Geesa, who said it was? I'm not calling for Gerrard back either, so what has that got to do with my post? He's going to be here whether some like it or not. Personally I'm not over the moon with him tbh, but I'd never call for any manager, no matter who they are, to be sacked, especially after not having a preseason and at least 2/3 windows.
08 May 2026 18:44:18
We've got a manager who'll still be our manager for next season, he's called Danny Rohl. 👍 🇬🇧
08 May 2026 19:08:31
There is not one real fan on here who at the time would have had any problem with us concentrating all our focus on the title that year. We had not won a title for 9 years and it was a huge thing to do. I am not necessarily in favour of bringing Gerrard back, but this continued criticism of him winning the only title we will have won in 15 years is out of order.
The club was a shambles on and off the field when he took over, and though it took time, he fulfilled the remit set by Dave King, win the title and restore our reputation in Europe. Something else that this team of imposters has tarnished this season as we are back to the same standard of player that Pedro and Murty left.
08 May 2026 19:52:03
Not at all, Stig. I think all (bar one or two) totally appreciate what SG did, but on the other hand, it's also annoying all the 'get rid of Rohl and bring back SG' because he's not done what he did, along with some pretty hazy memories and comparisons, forgetting any negatives. How about just thanks for what he did, and let's get behind our manager.
08 May 2026 20:49:51
Coops, it will go pear shaped quickly if we don't do something on Sunday. The knives will be out for him.
08 May 2026 21:24:59
SG? He's knocked us back twice now. He had his reasons, which I think we can all agree on. The landscape at Rangers has changed now, and if offered the job again, the current situation with the set up might be more appealing. If the board had backed him after Terry Munro, he wouldn't have gone to AV.
But, how many times do you get knocked back? DR has done a great job, but when we needed wins, it's fallen apart. If DR decides to go, I'd take SG. Best player of his generation, got an eye for a player, and young talent would want to play for him. P.S. SG gets the club.
08 May 2026 22:03:45
Stig, that's not really a constructive conversation now is it? You had a go about labels being thrown about, assumptions being made, and now because criticism or fairness and truth in my eyes is applied to SG's era, it should be ignored. I'm sure I wrote I appreciate what he did, but I'm not going to re-write history. He struggled massively for two seasons, winning nothing. Fact. He dropped two easily winnable cups, with Celtic already eliminated. Fact. The league title was important, and he won it undefeated.
Fact. Celtic were a mess that season. Fact. We had very little COVID outbreaks. Fact. Like, I don't see what the issue is.
I'm merely applying the same logic to two coaches, one who fans want back, that's knocked us back twice and jumped because he didn't get the finances he wanted to spend after 3 years, which is fair, and a guy who's had one window and, to me, has the right ideas and needs the right tools now.
08 May 2026 13:07:26
Just wanted to highlight a few things from today's presser outside of the Rohl staying stuff as that seems pretty clear he sees himself here next season.
When asked about egos in the squad he said:
"This is what I try everyday. It's always about the team first. I think team first means club first, means Rangers first."
A follow up question led to him saying:
"You see som individual decision-making where you think normally the players don't do that. You see then in some moments we're too lazy to recover, we are overplayed, and we are working instead of defending now. These are things we have to improve and this is what I demand."
Asked if enough have the right mindset he said:
"I think it's not just that you bring names and quality in. You need, in the right moment also, more and more players, they take the responsibility in the difficult moments. I think some players showed it. But again, not consistently."
He spoke about movement being poor and mentioned wanting to set higher standards next season. Also spoke about players being unfit at this period of the season, mainly Rommens, Moore, Naderi and Sterling "where they should not be".
08 May 2026 14:35:51
Yes, Ayrshire noticed he never denied their Egosa problem. Also made a good point about reacting to changes, that it doesn't matter what changes u make or formations, if players aren't prepared to chase their man or get back in position. Very calm but also very damning.
08 May 2026 15:23:05
Extremely damning, Kaiser. Tells me that whilst he may seem supportive and calm in public, he's clearly unhappy with the players behind the scenes.
Unhappy with effort, bravery, standards and fitness in my eyes from those comments.
08 May 2026 15:47:22
He said various things should be "first".
Well, first thing should be not playing players out of position.
08 May 2026 16:29:58
Well, not really, Slim Jim. The team, the club and Rangers are all the same thing.
Which players are out of position?
08 May 2026 16:30:42
Murph, I saw online some people say that because he publicly denies a mentality problem that he isn't the right man for us etc etc.
But for me he is doing the right thing, I mean I recall us all saying about RM throwing player under the bus early and questioning things.
Even if he feels it's a problem, he isn't going to come out publicly and bash these players, as we still have matches left to play.
Behind the scenes, it will all be different and I'm sure he has earmarked those he deems to have said problems and will be wanting rid.
08 May 2026 16:49:11
Yes, Bigblue, there's different ways of getting that message across. He hasn't slated them like Martin did in 1st game, but could still tell he wasn't happy about them only putting in 45 min performances and falling back to old ways. Which was just another way of saying their mentality has been poor without wanting to come out and say it.
08 May 2026 17:19:57
Rohl should never have played Olsen against Hearts.
08 May 2026 17:42:40
The bigger question is, does he have the character to eliminate the egos?
I'd get rid of the so-called leadership group, including Raskin and Butland, in the summer.
08 May 2026 19:12:10
Totally 100% disagree with the "it doesn't matter what changes you make" comment. If you're being outplayed tactically, you need to try and nullify that, who's to say the player brought on wouldn't have chased his man back, or is he saying none of them would? Surely you need to at least try if the man on the park isn't doing it.
08 May 2026 20:08:14
Boyblue, I agree that he could have reacted, but he wasn't just saying changes don't matter. The point he was making was if the players aren't doing their jobs or showing the right attitude, then it won't make a difference. U can try 2, 3, 4, 5, but if they won't chase or work, then it won't make a difference.
It was in the context of not just that game, but why it's been 45 min performances, not 90, so I feel it was a strong message that maybe, yes, others wouldn't either, and it's an attitude throughout that's needing changed.
08 May 2026 21:36:21
Was thinking that as in was getting to the end of my post, Kaiser, thanks mate.
08 May 2026 22:19:02
If you watch the Motherwell game and Hearts game, BB4, it's not just one player. It's literally 3 in some clips, 4 in others, and even 5 in some. Main culprits in the goals conceded ones are Sterling, Raskin, Chuk and Aasgaard against Motherwell, and Raskin, Chuk, Sterling and Olsen against Hearts.
Watch John Walker on X. His analysis videos are pretty clear on it, and it's actually a trend in Raskin's game across all seasons he's been here.
08 May 2026 12:30:32
A wee friday task guys > try saying Tav and leadership in same sentence without laughing 👍
08 May 2026 13:07:27
"People get the wrong idea about James Tavernier. And, hands up, I was probably one of them.
"I got to see a side of him that very few others ever do. And I honestly can't speak highly enough of the guy and everything he stands for.
"Trust me on this one, Tav is the consummate professional and, despite what anyone else out there may think, he lives and breathes Rangers Football Club in very much the same way that I always have."
Barry Ferguson.
08 May 2026 13:17:14
Give the guy a break for god's sake. 😡👎
08 May 2026 13:37:36
Try and say decent delivery at a corner without mentioning Tav's name or pointing how better we are led when Souttar or Butland or captain.
08 May 2026 13:36:17
It is weird how Raskin became captain material 3 weeks ago but has been poor for 3.5 years won nothing in some of the poorest teams we've had
What makes him a captain he puts in a tackle 1/5 games? XD
There must be no leaders in clubs that don't win things
08 May 2026 13:52:48
Tavs been one of our best signings in recent history.
Agree on Raskin, has done nothing.
08 May 2026 14:19:12
When I think Rangers leadership, sorry but I think Amoruso, Barry Ferguson, Terry Butcher, Souness, McCulloch, Weir, Walter shouting and telling people what to do.
Tav, for me, although a great servant up there with likes of Numan, Albertz, Novo and the like, in game wise he will never be a top captain in my eyes.
Too many footballers in modern game are weak characters, and I get it's a lot harder for captains nowadays. Not the same drive in players to win, it's more about the trappings of what football gives them and not winning or playing for club you supported or dreamed of playing for as a kid.
08 May 2026 15:11:49
Only going by what I see on the pitch, mate, and 100% definitely never Rangers captain in my eyes and for all the goals I'd rather he only scored 15 goals and had another 5 or 6 titles. 👍
08 May 2026 15:28:06
For me I don't think anyone can deny Tav numbers are simply incredible. However, he is our captain and is meant to set an example, so when other players in the team and fans see Tav or anyone losing possession and they see Tav jogging back and not bursting a gut to try and get back into position. Or at 2 nil down he is jogging slowly to take a throw in or corner, then taking another min directing where players should be, thus allowing opp to get into position. This lack of urgency sets a rot throughout the team and it's not acceptable.
Remember the stories of some of our great captains and former players that would have players pinned to the wall by the throat for not doing their jobs.
This laughing and joking with op players after a defeat should never be happening. Rem Lunny tearing strips off of Big Bassey when he was helping an op player to his feet after a hard tackle. This is what is needed in this team.
I'm not so sure that Rohl is that sort of manager to demand this in the team and Tav def isn't.
08 May 2026 17:09:07
Why, oh why, do we take great pleasure out of hammering our own players. What has Tav done to deserve the hatred carved up on this site. The man is going, but yet rather than thank him for his service, we decide to slag him off.
Says a lot really.
08 May 2026 17:44:06
Who are we going to blame next year???
08 May 2026 12:26:16
It's always been a better place in here when things are going well and the team is winning. The frustrations on the park lead to frustration and anger on these pages. It's Rangers, they play a big part in our lives, which brings us on here to discuss, laugh and disagree. got to be respectful though lads or this place will just be empty.
I stopped posting a while back because of some of the same bs doing roundabouts and going to lose lots of genuine Rangers fans with good insight if some can't read past or get past personal feelings towards some.
WATP ❤️🤍💙 and are stronger together.
08 May 2026 18:04:54
Glasgow Rangers is a better gig than Wolfsburg in every way for a young manager. I for one hope he stays. There are suggestions below that McColl or Reid are appointed to assist, and that sounds like a good plan to me. We really need a few Scotsmen in the dressing room, so that the whole team are aligned and know what it means to lose.
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