Rangers banter 5

22 Apr 2024 17:49:21
Fair play to Dessers for his two goals yesterday. Can’t fault the guy for the effort he always puts in as well. However unfortunately, he’ll just never be good enough to be our main striking option going forward. 19 goals in 38 is a decent return but if you look back on all his games one major thing sticks out. He can not hit a ‘first time finish’. Almost every shot he takes he needs 3 or 4 touches first to set himself.

This results in either: him being tackled, defenders getting back and blocking his shot, or on occasions goals like his first on Sunday, which looked really good as he ‘beat’ 3 men before shooting. Proper strikers can hit first time finishes or at most one touch then shoot. How many times do we see him balloon first time efforts over or well wide.

He just can’t finish with out taking an age to get a shot off. Even both yesterday’s goals were a bit fortunate. The first went through Gordon’s legs, the second seemed to go through him completely some how. On another day both of those are saved. We are desperately Needing someone who can instinctively finish without taking an age to think about it.

23 Apr 2024 10:16:39
Dessers or alfie.

23 Apr 2024 12:43:03
Christen - A morph of the pair please - Dessers workrate and attitude and Alfies finishing (in his prime) - I will phone PC and see if he can oblige with this mash-up😁.

23 apr 2024 17:38:43
think i would much rather have dessers finishing to be honest mate, in fact anyone's finishing.

22 apr 2024 16:17:16
can someone just confirm to me that rangers can qualify fir cl if we are 2nd, what are the requirements to get through exactly.

22 Apr 2024 17:29:40
If we qualify it would be 3 qualies . tough ask but Phil will have replacement sat the ready for quite a few of the overpaid lads.

22 Apr 2024 17:51:25
Tom we would enter at the third qualifying round Seeded.

Win we enter play off. Likely to be unseeded Lose we enter Europa League as a seed.

In a play off win, again we enter Europa League, lose we enter the Europa League with a five million parachute payments also seeded.

22 Apr 2024 18:23:30
We need to qualify sure its just 1 round poss 2. If benfica were to somehow over turn 7 point gap sporting have we would go straight into groups due to our high co efficient.

22 apr 2024 19:27:28
many thanks guys, so john, the play off is a must really, if the worst comes to the worst.

22 Apr 2024 22:54:16
Both games ensure Europa leagu.

Playoff same as last year gives parachute payment.
Also bonus of two sell out games at ibrox. Circa 4 million.

23 Apr 2024 10:19:08
we might be straight in to league phase our runs ineurope hashelped depending on other leagues rules been changed.

22 Apr 2024 14:39:09
Long time lurker, first time poster.
Love the opinions of you guys on here so keep it up.

Have a question i can't seem to find the answer for. when is Danilo due back from Injury? i had him and Sima returning at roughly the same time in April but can't find anything else out. Do we think he will be back before the end of the season?

22 Apr 2024 14:58:17
PC mentioned that him and Cortez could be back for the final.

22 apr 2024 14:59:11
probably no chance of seeing him this season imo.

22 Apr 2024 15:08:31
I don't think either will be back this season unfortunately ☹️.

22 Apr 2024 15:11:52
I'd doubt we will see him back before the start of next season.

22 Apr 2024 15:14:24
Welcome dekeyras, sure pc said the final mate.

22 Apr 2024 15:32:18
Manager said yesterday Danilo won’t play this season.

22 Apr 2024 15:55:50
Thanks guys, appreciate the info.

22 Apr 2024 16:43:36
It would have been interesting to have seen how he would have got on this season.

22 Apr 2024 16:51:24
Any word on Cortes john.

22 Apr 2024 17:52:54
Nothing re Cortes.

22 Apr 2024 18:26:28
dekeyras - welcome to the site.

Good to get some new opinions. What's your thoughts on the season so far?

22 Apr 2024 19:00:23
Was Danillo injured before PC came here? If so then difficult for our manager to assess if he can be our main man or not.

22 Apr 2024 21:10:17
Bizz Danilo scored a few times under Clement.

22 Apr 2024 13:48:11
I see Lundstram still getting a fair bit of criticism after yesterday. Agreed he has been poor lately but I thought he did much better overall. A couple of loose passes, yes, but thought he and wee Diomande did well. The wee fella is a player, some sublime touches during the match. Shout out to Todd, thought he was brilliant along with big Leon and Mr Dessers. Tav and Sterling very good, Soutter a bit shaky, but a good win. 3 points against Saints and we'll see what they are made if when they visit Dundee later in the day.

22 apr 2024 15:01:53
hi seeker, its strange that soutter seems to follow a good game with a very poor one, it seems to happen all the time,

yes cantwell git firward more, still love to see him shoot more, and dessers is an enigma, numbers great yet often looks awful, maybe he will finish with 25 goals plus, let's hope so mate.

22 Apr 2024 15:02:31
Thought he was ok yesterday but looked very leggy even in first half.
I’d like to see Diomande and Sterling in there would provide plenty of energy and both can keep posesession.

22 Apr 2024 15:12:36
He's not the answer imho going forward we need some1 more physical to compliment diomonde.

22 Apr 2024 15:19:50
Seeker totally agree. I also thought that Tav had one of his better defensive displays, From the of the whole team looked up for it, Hopefully it continues until the end of May.
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22 Apr 2024 15:43:42
Hopefully Goldson never kicks a ball for us again. Give Balogun another years deal.

22 apr 2024 15:59:46
im not sure tav was any better defensively mate, i don't think he can defend fullstop but that's just me, i thought hearts made it easy for him.

22 Apr 2024 16:58:55
Tav was much better defensively yesterday. From the eye test anyways.

Not sure if it was Hearts lack of ability that made Tav look better though.

Though Balogun was great. Cantwell very good but a bit hesitant in front of goal.

Sterling is a beast, could be some player if user correctly.

Dessers. nah i'm not even saying it lol.

22 Apr 2024 17:10:00
Blackadder, I would also give Balogun a new contract.

22 Apr 2024 18:11:40
No brainer for me, Mark. he's our best defender by a country mile. Add two central defenders in the summer. Get rid of Goldson, Davies and Souttar.

22 Apr 2024 21:11:43
Can't see us selling Soutter Blackadder.

22 Apr 2024 13:48:01
Here's a stat i've just had a text message sent to me regarding and i'm sure the king of stats on here MPH, will be able to confirm 🤔I'm informed that big dessers is only now 1 goal behind jelavic's best scoring season for us and already scored more than alfie's best scoring season for us 🤔Well done big dessers and i wouldn't have thought that like many because a lot of focus is always placed on the chances he misses and that's probably why his good goalscoring record is overlooked 🤔I realise big cyriel probably should have been over the 30 goals mark but let's give the big fella credit for the goals he has scored for us 👌👏👏.

22 Apr 2024 14:46:06
There is a piece on the BBC website by Tom English:-

If you looked at the bare numbers of Dessers' time with Rangers, you could only conclude that this guy is one of the most prolific strikers the club has had in the last 20 seasons.

Taking out their years in the lower leagues - where goals were a whole lot easier to come by - his tally is only bettered by the single-season totals of Alfredo Morelos, Kenny Miller, Kris Boyd, Nacho Novo and Dado Prso over the last two decades.

With six games left to play - five in the league and the cup final against Celtic - he's already scored more goals than Antonio Colak, Kemar Roofe and Jermain Defoe ever did in one season.

Over the past 20 years, he's outscored Daniel Cousins and Jean-Claude Darcheville, Peter Lovenkrands, Shota Arveladze and Michael Mols and many other Rangers strikers in that timeframe.

Nobody is saying that Dessers is the second coming of Ally McCoist, but he only needs one more to move ahead of the best season Nikica Jelavic ever had at Ibrox.

Jelavic only had one full one, but Dessers has matched him so far. His numbers defy some of the evidence of our own eyes.

22 apr 2024 15:03:48
its in tom english peice today, yes coops one behind jela, nobody could ever compare him to jela, but he's on course for highest rate in 20 years.

22 apr 2024 15:06:52
yes, that's english take, good numbers, but missed multiple chances, winning trophies is what counts, and its the on, y thing that counts, you should be scoring plenty at rangers or celtic imo.

22 Apr 2024 15:14:24
Mph good numbers but he's not got ability to hold the ball up or link the play if we are to become successful dessers can't bd the no1 striker.

22 Apr 2024 15:34:15
I think its important to consider the amount of minutes played between Dessers, Roofe and Colak. If Roofe and Colak played as much minutes as Dessers I'm absolutely confident that they both would easily out score Dessers. Dessers misses too many crucial chances for me and is not a natural finisher.

You're right though if you watch him play, at times you think he's horrific but then you look at his goals scored and it doesn't quite add up.

22 apr 2024 16:00:53
absolutely spot on blackadder,

22 Apr 2024 16:31:04
If if if. Roofe has not managed the same minutes in three seasons as dessers

Colak consistently feigned injury hence we git rid off.

22 Apr 2024 16:54:28
I’m hoping he continues to score for us this season and surpasses the names mentioned above. We would then get a very good fee for him at end of season. I’ll back him while he wears our jersey but we need better.

22 Apr 2024 17:39:51
I’m also sure he’s scored more goals from open play than Shankland.

Certainly not an outstanding centre forward but he can score goals and I think he’s reputation is still hindered from his performances under Beale.

I hope he’s not leading the line week in and week out but I think there’s a space in the squad for him, he’s rarely injured as well.

22 Apr 2024 17:42:40
I agree with storm totally regarding big cyriel dessers, as he's been prominent on here on backing the big fella constantly and that's why i've mentioned storm in particular here. 👍 As i've said before, i back every player that dons our famous rangers jersey whether they're my favourite player or not, because i'll always want them to do superb and i'll back them to the hilt.

I've known supporters who sit near me at ibrox who want dessers to fail because they don't rate the big fella and want him out, i could never be that type of supporter 🤔👎I'm not going to state here that dessers is the best rangers striker we've ever had or that he's superb, but i'll tell you something he's nowhere near as bad as some would have you believing. 🤔

The big fella gives his absolute all and even if he missed a few easy chances within a game, he never hides and comes back to have a go at the next chance, that comes his way 👍He undoubtedly has the correct attitude i would expect/ want a rangers player to have👌He definitely has the mentality required to play for rangers. 👍

Too much i feel is focused on the easy chances undoubtedly he's missed which obscures the good goals and goal tally, he currently has for rangers 👌He has good attributes no doubt and should be given more praise by some of our own supporters who just constantly berate the guy 🤔 Good luck to big cyriel 🙏.

22 Apr 2024 17:58:47
Totally agree Scotty, I however would not be surprised if clement keeps him as backup, remember roofe will probably leave, sima May go, Danilo coming back from long-term injury,

20 goals and 9 assists always available.

22 Apr 2024 18:13:31
Correct Scotty.

22 Apr 2024 18:14:54
If roofe played 😂😂😂😂 all ifs and buts.

Dessers link up play is hands down better than shankland, but shankland's finishing is hands down better than dessers. Dessers ain’t been nearly as bad as some panty wetters think on here.

Am I right in saying only 5 strikers have scored more than 20 goals a season in the last 20/ 25 years? If so it puts to bed the bs that rangers strikers should be scoring bucket loads.
People been crying out for 20 goal striker a year for years. They get one and still not happy as he ain’t good enough 😂.

22 Apr 2024 18:20:29
Am sorry but prolific?
13 goals spl
1 europa league
1 champions league qualifying
1 league Cup
3 in sfa cup
0 v celtic
You would think he was a goal away from 30 with words like prolific getting banded about, being compared to guys that won titles.
Our bread and butter is to win the spl, imo 13 goals is not good enough lots will disagree, fair enough, just remember Alfred morelos was posting around same numbers for 6 year, we won 1 title. Not saying he's hopeless, but his numbers don't defy my eyes.

22 Apr 2024 18:33:13
Spot on, John.
I’d rather have a striker who is fit and helping the team than an if, but, maybe couple of strikers.
Is he what we need long term? No.
But like Storm says he’s all we have.

22 apr 2024 19:52:26
all about winning trophies, nothing else matters.

22 Apr 2024 20:09:03
Dessers may not want to stay as backup but I think he may go if the right offer comes in and danilo comes back ok.

22 Apr 2024 20:53:44
Fgs just wow, guy gets us in a final, stats are gd, and it's a pile on, fecking joke, he's a big likeable fecker that gives everything and 19 goals isn't to shabby, at least the boy plays for his jersey.

22 Apr 2024 13:37:15
The blunt fact is that we lost the initiative in the league race by losing to Ross County and drawing with Dundee, undoing all the good work that was done to close the gap on the other mob. It's still doable but we'd have to win all remaining 5 games and overtake their goal difference. You never know I'm throwing the towel in yet! WATP.

22 Apr 2024 18:29:56
We dropped some stupid points in the last few weeks. the league is still doable, but going to be tough.

22 Apr 2024 12:30:01
Beating one of the 4 teams by a large score like we did against dunfermline years ago and beat them at the tin can and we win the league. that's what i call a miracle. but doable after yesterdays fine performance.

22 Apr 2024 12:41:43
Still think we would requrie a favour mate we miss too many chances to top league on GD imo.

22 Apr 2024 12:48:16
The only favour I see is Killie at this time. sure Derek Mcinnes will be up for that one.

22 apr 2024 13:15:24
one things for certain, we can rule out the last game
st mirren at parkheid, i remeber them beating saints 5 nil way back when hearts threw the league away.

22 Apr 2024 13:27:00
I still had hope after ross county. being in our own hands. After dundee i have zero hope.

22 Apr 2024 13:33:38
That's right Tom. Heard in the run up to the St Mirren game that certain members of the team were going to be downing tools resulting in a 0-5.

22 Apr 2024 13:39:57
Beating them away and killie taking something is our only hope. Plus we still need to win all our other games. Don’t see it happening unfortunately. Shame we threw it away. 😔.

22 Apr 2024 14:23:39
Correct Dado - We need at least 6 good chances a game to score 2 so going by current form doubt if we will outscore them from now till end of season so got to hope we are done favours by other teams - 2 wins from Ross Cty and Mwell (even allowing poor draw at Dundee) would have had us sitting pretty but we have to do things the hard way.

22 Apr 2024 14:32:11
Decee I honestly didn't think it was a fine performance, thought hearts controlled large parts of the game, albeit without looking like they could score. Better than last few, but still far to many mistakes, slack passing. Would have been nice to put on a performance, win was all that mattered.

22 Apr 2024 14:54:14
fine is all i had bb3 . but can be built on.

22 apr 2024 15:08:43
i know fir a fact 75% of that saints team were celtic supporters seeker, i knew most personally.

22 Apr 2024 15:16:07
I think we need them to drop points outwith our game and that's a tough ask.

22 apr 2024 15:23:15
im with bb here, i wasnt paricularky impressed but results good, i'm just sick that we aren't ahead in league.

22 Apr 2024 18:07:19
I think they will drop points. Hearts have beaten them twice in a row and once at bamhead. They are capable of taking a point in that game. Killie away is another opportunity. Neither of these games are going to be easy for them.

Celtic were poor again at the weekend and I don’t think they are a good team, regardless.

It then comes down to us and that’s where I have concerns. Can we win away to them, yes we can but we need to tighten up defensively and take our chances. I fear slipping up in the other games more than playing them away.

I hope yesterday brings back some confidence and we get some momentum to finish this season strongly. Injuries continue to be a worry, however.