Rangers banter 5

28 May 2026 08:29:47
I am unsure if this is a good thing or bad thing for us but I have heard Graeme Park wants back on the board.

28 May 2026 08:52:09
Someone said this a few weeks ago can't remember who.

28 May 2026 09:16:55
I think it was John who said it, Storm. 🤔

28 May 2026 09:52:40
Fourlads, he would need to be voted on at AGM, I think, so if AC doesn't want him, he has enough shares to vote him out. Not sure we want an internal fight though. What is it they say about keeping your enemies close (if he is that), so they might let him on.

28 May 2026 09:55:46
Big Dougie possibly trying to protect his investment or possibly wants bought out??

28 May 2026 10:04:30
Yeah perhaps, Angus.

28 May 2026 10:15:42
Storm, yes I posted this. A strong rumour.

28 May 2026 10:59:46
John heard this from someone very close to the Parks this morning. As I said, I am unsure if it's a good or bad thing. What are your thoughts?

28 May 2026 11:05:58
imo, he would be a minority shareholder on the board. Not wielding much power.

28 May 2026 11:26:20
Ok John, thanks.

28 May 2026 12:11:05
I thought it was you, John, but didn't want to say in case I was wrong, as I wasn't 100%.

28 May 2026 12:31:27
Storm, if u were wrong so what, as long as it's done in good faith without the name calling, I will always put up my hand if it's me who has said something.

28 May 2026 12:38:25
John, what do you think of Yatelys suggestion, maybe Parks is trying to cash in his shares, I think that's very possible. What's your thoughts on that, pal?

28 May 2026 07:39:36
If we could resign one of the following loanees, who would it be?

Moore, Sima or Cerny?

28 May 2026 07:57:21
Cerny brought goals.

28 May 2026 07:59:29
Gd Q, Moore will probably go south to someone as he's still a lot to learn and to develop further.
Sima or Cerny? I'd probably be happy with either, but would lean towards Cerny possibly.
So basically on the fence. 😄👍

28 May 2026 08:01:44
Cerny, I reckon followed by Sima as both would be permanent signing! Looking forward to seeing Moore again this year though if he hopefully plays for us again.

28 May 2026 08:02:40
Cerny for me.

28 May 2026 08:02:44
Sima for me EHL.

28 May 2026 08:04:07
Moore for me, no doubt in my mind.

28 May 2026 08:05:20
Moore.

28 May 2026 08:08:00
Is this just a general Q, Ehl? Or do u have an inkling as to if we're after one of them?

28 May 2026 08:11:12
If u mean permanent, then Moore. His potential is huge. If another loan, then Cerny for immediate impact.

28 May 2026 08:12:54
Hahaha, brilliant Fork!

I'd go for Sima. Think we are a little too structured at times, and he brought a chaotic unpredictability that we're lacking.

28 May 2026 08:12:56
Sima for me for his versatility and numbers in attacking areas. He is also the most realistic if we were talking about actually signing on a permanent deal.

28 May 2026 08:18:03
Mikey Moore for me 👍 🇬🇧 b.

28 May 2026 08:20:07
I mind the Tin Man was like that, even he didn't know what he was going to do, let alone his teammates. Played off the cuff, something that's missing nowadays.

28 May 2026 08:22:05
I'd say Cerny, basically to fill the problematic right wing role we've struggled with for years.

28 May 2026 08:27:31
I always thought Sima, he carried the ball better than Cerny. I thought he had pace and a directness, he could hit a shot and he scored goals.

But apparently the stats actually say Cerny was the better player.
So I'm torn but if I had to pick I'd say Sima just preferred his overall play.

28 May 2026 08:28:18
Moore will only be better on a 2nd season here, an exciting prospect, and one I've not given up on.

28 May 2026 08:36:24
Cerny.
More end product than Moore.
More goals than Sima.

28 May 2026 08:37:00
Cerny for pure numbers. We need players who produce numbers throughout the 11 to be successful.

28 May 2026 08:37:27
Cerny because we desperately need a quality RW.

28 May 2026 09:02:14
Ahh! The Tin Man, memories. 😀😀
Outside chance we might get young Moore again, to give him European experience?

28 May 2026 09:16:24
Sima for me, he was great going forward but also good defensively and in the air if I remember correctly.

28 May 2026 09:24:11
You're correct, Pauly, won his fair share of headers in our box, but be Cerny for me, only player that has been a success on our rw for years.

28 May 2026 09:29:49
Would happily take any of them, Cerny was a delight in Europe, Sima seemed to be well suited to deal with our league, and Moore is getting better all the time. Yes, Yes & Yes again from me!

28 May 2026 09:39:49
Don't need Cerny or Sima, we already have a good right winger in Finlay Curtis. Give him a run in the team like he had at Kille. If he's good enough, it doesn't matter what age he is.

28 May 2026 09:43:32
Sima for me. I thought his all round game and physical presence suited us and our league. He also missed a few months due to injury. Without that, I think his numbers would have been better than Cerny.

28 May 2026 09:53:22
I would have Sima as well above the other two, as he offers more positions to cover.

28 May 2026 09:54:22
Hard hard choice I'll take Sima as big and aggressive as well as effective. 🇬🇧

28 May 2026 11:30:23
Very good question. I think I'd edge to Cerny.

28 May 2026 11:30:56
Oooooooh great Q, Ehl.

All great players.

I'd love Moore as he's only going to get better.

I think Sima is a fab player, powerful, paced, aggressive, both going forward and defensively, and could play different positions and scored goals. A.

28 May 2026 12:12:36
Cerny, because Sima is a hero at RC Lens so going nowhere. They are in the Champions League. Sima scored the clinching goal in the French Cup final, so I would doubt if he'd be interested. A good player though, pity we couldn't afford him at the time.

28 May 2026 12:22:34
Moore for me, boy had druve and knows what it means to play for us and what is required.

28 May 2026 12:38:12
Cerny, I think, ciz he has the bottle for it.

28 May 2026 12:40:12
Ehl, Cerny for me mate, without a shadow of doubt.

28 May 2026 13:11:29
Cerny for me, should have bought him instead of letting him go back, and he brought us "Watergate", oh how I laughed.

28 May 2026 13:51:03
Sima for me.

28 May 2026 07:39:13
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27 May 2026 22:33:21
Aston Villa

Crystal Palace

Can Arsenal make it 3 in a Row?

I sure hope so, what a triumph that would be for British football.

I hope PSG have an off night. I'll always support the home teams/nations.

Who you got winning the Champions League Final?

27 May 2026 22:52:34
PSG play the better football, I find Arsenal boring at times.

27 May 2026 23:20:36
Couldn't care less, to be honest. Think it's an absolute disgrace that the top 8 teams in English league can get European football. That's nearly half their league will be in European competitions next year.
Absolute farce and all about money.

27 May 2026 23:22:01
English football. England is not Britain. C'mon PSG from the auld alliance.

28 May 2026 00:03:25
Interesting, Only Me.

Last time I checked, England was part of the British Isles.

Yes, they are English teams, who in turn are part of British football.

Isn't it interesting how people want to continue to cause this separation.



Any team that wins from our four nations can only be good for British football - right?

As I said, I'll always support a team from my own nation first. Why would I want a French team to win when there's a British team there?

28 May 2026 00:32:05
Any team that wins from our four nations is good for British football? Care to explain how?

All it does is push our other three nations further down the co-effs, and it's not like the money they get is spread out. It is only going to generate more money in a league that is already the richest in world football, continue to increase the gulf between the rest of the British nations, and see our best talent leave for the bright lights of England to most likely go nowhere.



That being said, I'd rather back a former Gers man than a French team. I still don't think they will win it, as PSG are the best footballing team in Europe right now.

28 May 2026 01:25:46
English teams in British football.

With foreign players and managements, and owners too.

No such thing as English football now.

28 May 2026 07:02:02
What's British football? I don't remember having a British league or a British national team? I think it's great for English football but thankfully there's nothing British about football.

Good luck to Arsenal, I think they'll do it.

28 May 2026 07:20:01
So dominant English sides - so much cash to play with - hard to compete and only get harder. 🇬🇧

28 May 2026 07:32:03
Gazza, you spelt England wrong. No such thing as British football. Let's say Spain win the World Cup, would that be great for European football?

28 May 2026 07:41:21
Not really bothered if it's an English, Spanish, French team tbh, but 8 teams in Europe out of a league of 20 that has won 2 Euro comps and in final of other, doesn't seem unfair really. We've got 4 out of 12 and all of them are pants in Europe, what's the issue?

28 May 2026 07:44:28
Would love to see Arsenal win the Champions League, especially for our former midfielder Mikel Arteta. 🙏 But, being totally honest, I think PSG will have far too much for Arsenal. 🤔
PSG currently the best team in Europe over the last 2 years, and for me they have the best winger in Europe just now, Kvaratskhelia.

👌 What a player, and how do Arsenal stop this fella, I don't know. 😲

28 May 2026 07:47:54
Really hope PSG win it.

Really can't stand Arteta.

28 May 2026 07:55:48
Agree, EHL loved him at us as a player, but there is something grating about his demeanour that makes me switch off.

28 May 2026 08:04:05
English teams winning it have no benefit to Scottish football. The amount of teams they have in the comps is shocking.

28 May 2026 08:12:08
Gazza, you're 💯 right.

Unfortunately the bigotry and xenophobia against England is acceptable in our small-minded backwater.

Like you, I want all the home nations to do well.

28 May 2026 08:24:07
Arsenal all the way for me.

28 May 2026 08:23:42
Says the guy who goes to Tommy Robinson rallies, really

28 May 2026 08:36:05
Arteta certainly takes childlike behaviour to new levels of nursery school antics. I can only assume he never watches his games, surely no man could watch themselves behave like he does, it's cringingly awful.

28 May 2026 08:37:15
I actually like Arteta and what he's done with Arsenal, even though Manchester United has always been my English team.

I think Arteta has built a really good squad and possibly done it with less spending than Chelsea and United.

The difference is that when Arsenal have bought players, most of them have become core players who've genuinely strengthened the team on the pitch.

I think he's done a great job, and you have to give him credit for what he's achieved.

28 May 2026 08:41:34
Oi, Fork, I told you that in confidence. 😉 😂

28 May 2026 08:54:26
Hope PSG as Arteta as a manager is a banger.

28 May 2026 08:55:47
So do u support Celtic in Europe because they are Scottish or British based? (whether they like it or not). It's not xenophobic, it's just rivalries. There is no British football, as their success doesn't benefit anyone else. Plenty of people have a favourite English team too, so might not want to support a rival team.

Pick whoever u like.
From a competition point of view, I think it's really bad for football. England totally dominating and only going to get worse with half the teams qualifying devaluing the competitions.

28 May 2026 09:00:23
Lol, I'm a snitch if you believe Storm. 👀 Ger88, gd to see u posting bud. 👍👍

28 May 2026 09:07:14
Pray tell how 3 English teams winning in Europe (Well done to Villa & Palace btw) benefit in any way teams in the rest of the UK???
Was only last week someone posted, the middle of the EPL got over 100 mill in prize money! Again how does that benefit the other 3 nations??

28 May 2026 09:06:10
You are a snitch fork but a loveable one

28 May 2026 09:20:11
Kaiser Celtic i'll never class as british mate they want to be irish

28 May 2026 09:39:30
Thanks everyone for your comments. A lot to reflect on and consider those different perspectives.

Kaiser, I don't think your question was directed at me as I didn't mention xenophobia.

Although, in answer to your question, I also want ALL Scottish teams to win in Europe. So if that includes Celtic, then the answer to that question is also yes.

I can put that rivalry aside, because the rivalry I have doesn't seep into hate, bigotry or sectarianism.



I also wanted them to win the cup last week. Although, it stung and I felt sick. We got a place in Europa League rather than the Conference.

Hopefully, now we have a chance to qualify for the Europa League, we'll attract a better calibre of player, which will also hopefully increase our chances of winning Scottish titles and cups.

Thanks. 🙏

28 May 2026 09:40:45
I hope London Celtic get a right good horsing! Their manager and fan base are unbearable. (I don't care he played for Rangers) You can guarantee thou if they lose it will be the fault of someone else.

28 May 2026 10:12:10
I support the mighty, glorious Glasgow Rangers, if they played any other team from Britain or Europe I would want them to win. I do not have any affiliation to any other club in Britain so I don't care if Arsenal win. On football structure as a whole a full British team does not exist, a full European team does not exist, so Arsenal to me if they win, then they win for English football nothing more.

Nobody in Germany, Spain, Italy etc will view Arsenal as British they will view them as English. I want PSG to win because I have a French brother in law and French nephews. my views have nothing to do with what Gazza-8 is making out, which is in his words are why are "people continuing to cause this separation" for me politics was never the issue. Jumping to assumptions are not clever, kind or welcome.

28 May 2026 10:46:01
Gazza, no, wasn't at u, mate. Just had to laugh at that Xeno comment because people chose to support different teams. I'm half English, half French, born in Scotland, by the way, so don't know where that would put me. 🤔 Guess you're in the minority backing Celtic in Europe, but fair play. Shows it can be just about rivalries, nothing else, who u chose without being anything more sinister.

Same as we can not want Celtic to win without being accused of bigotry. As a Liverpool fan, I have no strong opinion, but I'll probably back Arsenal, purely because we see more of them, but can totally understand both points of view.

28 May 2026 11:11:45
I like Celtic winning in Europe. I'm only concerned about Rangers, but them winning in Europe only helps Rangers, but winning a European final is a very different story.

28 May 2026 11:32:45
Before football turned into the business it is now, I'd support all Scottish / English teams in Europe.
Not now. Why would I want Celtic to qualify for CL and further fill their coffers to use against us? Doesn't make sense to me.

28 May 2026 12:02:34
Only Me

I'm female, actually! 😊 Nice of you to assume otherwise.

My comment was just pointing out the flaws in your logic: England is part of Britain (that's just a fact).

And the Auld Alliance was a medieval military pact between Scotland and France against England.

(Political, that's just a fact).

You've mentioned in another comment it's not political. But you're the one who used Auld Alliance.

So forgive me, if using it here makes it sound like you're still living in the 1300s and viewing anything English as the enemy. Have a good day! 😊

28 May 2026 12:13:34
Broste, but getting into the Champions League is different, as that doesn't help Rangers with the income coming from that tournament.

28 May 2026 12:08:30
England is the enemy though Gazza the same way Celtic is the enemy

28 May 2026 12:32:58
My Star, not following.

I'm saying the ££s rewards of Celtic doing well in Europe say CL is for their benefit, not ours, so I don't support them.

In fact, I like to see them pumped in all Euro games.

28 May 2026 12:51:22
Broste64, I like to see them getting pumped in any match they play, mate.

28 May 2026 12:52:10
Broste, I'm only interested in helping Rangers, then picking up coefficient points does just that.

28 May 2026 13:07:18
Iron_Rangers, you say London Irish in reference to the Gunners, mate. 🤔

28 May 2026 13:48:58
Kaiser, that's a fair point re the amount of euro places the EPL gets. I don't agree with that but I don't hold it against the teams that are playing.

I'm sure we'd happily hoover up an extra CL place if it was going. 😅

Fork, you're some banana bud. 😁 You can be 'pro' something without being 'anti' everything else.

28 May 2026 14:16:33
At least I don't support a racist scumbag

28 May 2026 14:43:35
Athole, I used to enjoy Europe because it was watching the best v the best. Now, with the latest expansion, all the teams that could put a decent challenge are now bottom half Champions League teams, meaning the English clubs are clear favourites for the other 2 comps and will walk it most seasons, even those who have been fighting relegation.

Aye, it's great for their fans once they get to a final, but most are complaining about the games until then. Just can hardly be bothered with any of it now apart from our games.

28 May 2026 15:19:07
It's simple really. The Hull City Manager summed it up when he said the EPL is worth £200 Million to them. Meanwhile, for winning the SPL, you get circa £4 million. There's a total imbalance as regards Sky Sports involvement in Scottish Football. I would love it if they were told to p--s off and someone else came in with decent money.

28 May 2026 21:27:41
Fork - I'll ignore your passive aggressiveness as it comes from a place of ignorance and I have a lot of time for you as a poster.

Just as a couple of points of order. I don't attend, I help organise and secondly, that scumbag is one of the most loyal, generous and caring people I've met and is a friend of mine.

28 May 2026 22:10:24
Do as u please he's a known scumbag and I actually thought better of you before this, so governments, anti race groups, church leaders and media are all wrong.

But have fun organising your hate speak filled rallies with a criminal that changed his name to hide his past, I've no time for him in any shape or form, u talk of xenophobia and support an islamaphobe, hypocritical, its not passive aggressive I'm openly telling you I can't stand the guy, and your a fool to believe his far right mince

28 May 2026 22:34:14
Loyal, generous and caring and a friend, yes he's a wonderful person, fine upstanding member of society, lunacy if u think that and you help organise for that, my description of scumbag is correct.

Extremism & Public Order:
He co-founded the English Defence League (EDL) in 2009, an organization closely tied to football hooliganism and characterized by anti-Islam sentiment and violent street protests.
Criminal Convictions:
His criminal record includes convictions for assaulting an off-duty police officer, public order offenses related to football brawls, possessing drugs, and using a fraudulent passport.
Fraud:
In 2014, he was jailed for 18 months for a significant mortgage fraud conspiracy where he was described by a judge as the "instigator, if not the architect" of the fraudulent scheme.


Contempt of Court:
Robinson has been imprisoned on multiple occasions for contempt of court. This includes filming defendants outside a criminal trial and, most notably, being jailed for 18 months in October 2024 for admitting multiple breaches of a High Court injunction regarding libel.
Libel:
In 2021, he was ordered to pay £100, 000 in damages (and significant legal costs) after a High Court judge ruled he had published false and defamatory claims on social media about a Syrian schoolboy.

28 May 2026 22:59:12
You have your opinion and that's fine. Let's leave it at that and not bore or hijack a banter page.

27 May 2026 21:08:48
Think some of the comments from some posters are completely out of order. It's opinions. I totally agree with fourlads opinion some don't . Move on. The game at Ross county we were 2-0 up I believe and Dessers misssed a couple of sitters to out the game to bed. Can't tenner now if tgey came back to win the match or draw but I think there were a few games like that had Dessers scored in big moments we would nm have went on to win the leauge.

The big guy was a gem but for me not good enough. Kyogo at the time scored big goals in big matches tgat was the difference for me.

27 May 2026 21:26:31
Yes, you'll be right. Dessers lost the league, not the team or management decisions, and imo it's total garbage this inane pursuit of one person in a team of 11. 🤯

27 May 2026 21:40:35
It's all about opinions, Rab. No point going over and over the same ground. Folk know where me and you stand with Dessers and they are entitled to their own opinions. Some like to patronise if you have a different view to theirs. Is what it is. As you say, we move on.

27 May 2026 21:40:55
Dessers wasn't the reason we never won the league, Rab, bonkers thinking way that, imo.

27 May 2026 21:48:24
I fail to believe none of Dessers' 29 goals in 55 games were big or important goals. I also don't think a striker for any team that puts those numbers up is not good enough for that team. Was he perfect? No, but nobody thinks he was, but imo he certainly was good enough, we probably could have done with him a few times this season.

27 May 2026 22:00:55
You speak of patronising, how is your lofty perch of hypocrisy alongside your dismissive retort citing "some like to patronise" or u just can't see that's exactly your tone and attitude to anyone who deigns to have a differing perspective.

27 May 2026 22:09:10
Some like to discuss and argue a point. Some just happen to be able to back that point up with facts. tbh, I thought four lads was up for a bit of banter, but I will leave him with his own discussion in future. Never knew his da was on the forum to protect him. 😂

27 May 2026 22:27:32
Fork, I really don't know what you are trying to start here, pal. How ironic, Angus asks if my dad is on the forum, when he has you as a personal body guard.

PS the answer's no, it's my maw that's on here. 😉🤣

27 May 2026 22:33:41
Instead of reposting same thing. I will say it with emoji.
The thought that one man cost us the league is.
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🫨 🫨 🤪 🫨 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🫨 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜🥜🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 🥜 I think that says it all.

👋🤔

27 May 2026 22:37:24
Fork, have you swallowed a thesaurus?
"Lofty perch of hypocrisy"
Love it. 🤣🤣

27 May 2026 22:25:36
Angus you made a comment about me being unable to read and comprehend facts pal. I think that's more than a bit of banter just for having a different opinion to you. CD9 missed 2 vital sitters in that game at Ross County which they came back to win. He missed multiple against Motherwell that season in a run in game and also missed multiple against Celtic. I was at these games and saw it right in front of me.

He might have a scored goals and had a return but he missed multiple chances and effectively his big game misses that season cost us the SPL title. His all round game wasn't good enough and he was effectively moved on. How ironic you say about my da being on the forum when you make comments suggesting I am stupid for having a different opinion.

27 May 2026 22:59:34
Can't believe people arguing over CD, he's left the club now he's done his duties.

27 May 2026 23:07:20
Just looking at the comments.

27 May 2026 23:22:34
CD skill 3/5. Finishing 3/5. Holdup play 3/5. Effort 5/5. Team player 5/5. Overall 3/5. Would be my opinion. Wish him all the best. 👍

27 May 2026 23:39:58
So Fourlads, if you Dessers wasn't good enough and we disagree and give reasons why, we are being patronising? Really, mate, have a night off.

28 May 2026 00:34:58
Deary me, and there was me thinking football was a team sport and not solely down to individuals. Guess the other 10 on the park are not to blame and just innocent buystanders.

28 May 2026 00:40:19
He scored his fair share of goals and you can get away with missing a few against smaller teams. Kris Boyd scored goals and was a very good finisher, but even Boyd got dropped for big games because he wasn't very good at football or doing the other bits well.

Similarly, Dessers wasn't very good at football and we needed more all round play from him, plus it was our last chance to cash in. How's he been getting on since? I think we moved him on at exactly the right time.

28 May 2026 00:43:27
P.S. Chermiti is better.

28 May 2026 01:33:48
Bb, I love yiur input snd that you pay fortunes to follow on, I don't like when people use words like "we" on here, to me it creates a kind of gang mentality, and apart from one I'm sure nobody here wants ti be in a gang.

If you disagree with the guy, say so, "We" means the guy is being treated differently to "us" if you know what I mean, soz if I'm just old n silly brother.

28 May 2026 03:13:12
Tom, really mate? Are you on the sauce? You've read my posts for around 10 years on here, Tom, just like I've read yours. You know fine well I would never want a fellow poster to feel like that no matter how I worded it, honestly, don't think the guy would have until you brought attention to it. What's with the gang chat? I'm reading between the lines here, Tom, but feel like you have a problem with someone else and it's getting me involved somehow, could be wide of the mark though.

Anyway, no hard feelings. Hope you're well. 💙
Fourlads, if you did take my post that way my apologies mate, it was never meant like that whatsoever.

28 May 2026 06:12:13
Oooh gang culture on an anonymous forum where nobody knows anybody, soon be graffiti and balaclavas 👀🤯🤣🤣 what a pile of mince.

28 May 2026 06:45:29
Nice comeback Fourlads. 👍🤣

28 May 2026 07:38:14
So let me understand this. Gers winning 2 nil. Dessers misses a chance. Ross County come back to win the game and you blame Dessers for losing the league. Read that back. That's got to be the most idiotic thinking of all time if you believe that. None of the other 10 players were at fault. Just Dessers. Ohh my days.

28 May 2026 07:45:06
Win together - lose together, errors in tactics/subs/defense/ball retention - is what lost the league.

28 May 2026 07:52:59
Everything is cool, guys, we are all entitled to our own opinions on CD9, and the differing ones bring up good debate. After seeing Rabs post, I saw that on another thread Angus made out I couldn't comprehend what he was saying, which is a load of nonsense.

Simple facts. I have a different opinion. There is nothing more and nothing less, and I have brought that up to Angus on here. I don't see the point in repeatedly going over old ground just because respectful to one another.

28 May 2026 08:14:25
Four lads, no issues with me, and sometimes things said with a bit of humour don't come across well. I couldn't see how you could continue to argue Shanks was better when his stats are worse than Dessers, hence the reading and failing to comprehend. Oh, and re sitters, if Shanks had scored the one against Motherwell, Hearts would have won the league.

But I don't ever want to create or have acrimony on here. I want to disagree, when we do, but have a relationship (?) where we can discuss the next thing in the same manner of being nice about it (I know I fail often 🤷).

Guys like Bbj, Kaiser, BB4, Star and even Fork and I disagree regularly but still chat to each other on the forum. I hope you continue to put your opinion and we can do it the same way. Sometimes the banter may get a bit close to the line but I say this all the time there is never any ill feeling on my part. Easy to write and read something differently in a post, but we are all supporters at the end of the day.

28 May 2026 08:26:37
Exactly, Angus. The way I see it is Shankland is a more clinical striker than Dessers. He doesn't take 10-12 chances to find the back of the net. At times, Dessers did. He was very inconsistent. I think when you post stats it can be quite deceiving, as you are giving numbers when Shankland was striker for Hearts and Dessers was our striker. In big games in the 23/24 season, Dessers missed multiple sitters in 4 big games from my memory.

Both Old Firm games we should have won, Ross County game and Motherwell. If we had a more clinical striker ie Shankland, it is my firm belief we would have won the league that season. I guess we will see this season, and you are correct, we are all supporters. We move on.

28 May 2026 08:40:49
Union Sheep. 😎🐑🐏😎

28 May 2026 08:59:28
Yass, mph, you are the leader of that, or is it John or Fork?
I still can't believe this is going on. 2-0 up and it's Dessers' fault, make that make sense. Maybe if the defence was better we would have won the game.

🥴 Dessers didn't lose us that title, it's ludicrous to suggest that no matter who or what you are. If you don't like getting called out on bs, don't post it.

28 May 2026 09:03:10
Meh. 👀🙄🤣

28 May 2026 09:05:07
Stats are a joke in most situations, I'd rather use my eye and see how's better.

28 May 2026 09:08:01
Good point on the consistency, Fourlads. Numbers can be deceiving. Eg, Chermiti's numbers were actually really good up to around January, but he only scored in 4 or 5 games. He was far more effective in the 2nd half of the season.

Even Miovski actually posted decent numbers for the amount he played (13), but don't think anyone would say he had a good season. It's as much about when and how often u score as how many u score.

28 May 2026 09:08:18
TT see if you are going to speak about me at least have the balls to name me and it's pathetic also as I don't want to be in a gang and it's a few times you have done this since you came back now.

Was going to let it go but I can't. The difference between me and you is I have the balls to name you 👍
Stop being a child.

28 May 2026 09:40:42
Yes, numbers are only part of the equation, but if a player is scoring from 1 in 4 shots across a season, I can't see how it takes him 10 to 12 chances to score. Even if your eyes are telling you that, I would say your eyes are lying to you. So if another scores from 1 in 5 shots, does that make them more clinical? Even if one is scoring in big games, it doesn't make them more clinical. It makes them inconsistent, possibly, but also just a big game player.

In 25/26 Shankland scored in 15 of 38 games. Dessers, 24/25, scored in 14 of 38 season before (in all top 6 fixtures), so they both score almost equal games.

Dessers got 5 game winning goals and so did Shankland.

So yes, the stats don't tell it all, but neither does someone's eyes. I trust the stats more than what someone remembers. And the stats say they aren't that far apart in their last season in SPL. If we had won title then Dessers' goals would be looked upon more kindly.

But believe what you believe, and hopefully next season Shankland does improve us. But we need others, as he won't do it on his own.

28 May 2026 09:47:24
Angus, same with a passing range for a keeper, when he can hardly control the ball. You're happy using stats, fair play, but it certainly doesn't tell you most things.

28 May 2026 09:49:11
Typical example, Dessers scored more goals than Chermiti, but Chermiti is levels up in ability.

28 May 2026 10:09:25
Star, this is simple in my head. You need to control the ball to have it at your feet to pass it. Then the next stage is whether or not that pass was successful. Butland has a higher pass success rate than Charles, so this either means he can control the ball, or he is excellent at making successful passes with mis-controlled balls. I will let your eyes tell you which that is.

It would be like saying a mf with 70% pass success can't control the ball.

If he can't, he is really good at passing balls he hasn't controlled. I don't think that would be the case, as it isn't logical.

All teams use stats to a greater extent these days to tell them which players to look at. What stats don't tell you are the things which can't be measured, e.g. where he stands when we are attacking, how he commands and organises his defence. That is why scouts then take over.

28 May 2026 11:10:24
Angus, we had a manager who was big on stats, and he turned out to be the worst in our history. I don't know what games you were watching with Dessers, because there were multiple occasions he missed chance after chance after chance. In games against Dundee, Motherwell, Kilmarnock, I remember counting into double figures the chances he had before either scoring or not scoring.

It was very frustrating to watch at the time, and I am glad we have moved him on and got a better striker in now.

28 May 2026 11:14:28
And, nonsense in my head, Angus, Charles has far better control of the ball.

28 May 2026 14:04:48
So it's you he has beef with, Storm? I honestly couldn't work out who, but knew it was someone.

27 May 2026 20:01:23
Wow!

Anthony Gordon to Rangers for £70 million 😱 that's insane!









I mean Barcelona- but still Insane!

😛 😜 Nearly had you all for a minute

27 May 2026 20:32:37
Gordon had both Barcelona and Bayern Munich fighting for his signature Gazza. 😲 He's off to Barca and what a move it is for him. 👌 A big loss for Newcastle United as Anthony Gordon is a superb footballer. 🤔

27 May 2026 20:57:13
In all honesty, if Barca come calling, very few can resist.

27 May 2026 21:03:53
Sws - I don't rate him that highly yet! He's talented, of course, but he's not up there with the best, for me. Yet.

That's true, Mass.

27 May 2026 21:33:44
He's an absolute grafter, that boy, and does it both ways. If I was Rashford, I'd be thinking of my time might be up here. Good luck to him.

27 May 2026 22:21:44
I'm agreeing with you, Iron_Rangers. I think Rashford's time might be up here at Rangers.

Get it done Mr Cavanagh. Only £30m!!.

😂😂😂

27 May 2026 22:40:28
Rashford's actually had a good season for Barcelona.

28 May 2026 01:35:57
The experts at Barca see otherwise, Gazza, and I agree with them, not that I'm any expert of course. Gordon could be a superstar over there, he has everything he needs.

27 May 2026 19:29:31
With the massive improvement of our new striker lawrence shankland's overall game over the last few years, i absolutely think shanks will be our very own harry kane 👌🇬🇧They both in their younger years were just natural goalscorers, but now both have become the complete all round striker and took their game to another level, obviously not for 1 second am i saying shankland is anywhere near as good as kane, i'm just comparing the similarities on the way both have improved their overall game over the years as they got older 🤔🇬🇧

27 May 2026 20:04:49
Most players improve over the years if there are any good.

27 May 2026 20:06:38
Here's hoping he can score 60 odd goals next season. With 58 of them against them.

27 May 2026 20:58:11
Yasss we have signed the Scottish Harry Kane.

27 May 2026 21:13:00
As good as Storm. 👍 🇬🇧

27 May 2026 22:17:45
To even mention them in the same breath is odd to me. So I agree with Storm's sarcasm. 👍

28 May 2026 00:36:50
Yeah, I see what you mean, I hope Shankland can get us 50 goals in the next season or it will be his fault if we don't win the league.

28 May 2026 01:55:59
Absolutely correct Coops,
Like a few I've seen in my time, Shankland's git better and better as he has aged. He sees things he wouldn't have 10 years ago. He's strong and uses it much better now, I understand what you're saying at least, and you're 100% correct in that. Many pro football people would say the same thing.

28 May 2026 07:53:38
Angus, I like you as a poster but please, my friend, try and understand my post and what I'm meaning mate. 🤔

28 May 2026 07:56:57
Exactly TT12, 👍 That talk goes on in football talk/debates all the time, and what I said about Shankland improving his overall game over the years was exactly the same that happened with Harry Kane over the years. 🤔 Why do some find fault with this because it's absolutely 💯 % true. 🤔

28 May 2026 09:00:52
He does it all the time. I was just having a joke, and I hope Coops took it as a joke. 👍

28 May 2026 09:27:24
Spot on, SWS, he definitely has improved his overall game over the years.