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14 Nov 2016 14:08:23
Would most fans be happy with just loan deals in the January window?

The most ITK Twitter/ forum poster already said Kristian Bielik and Chris Willock from Arsenal are targets for January. Thinking Harry Winks and Tom Carroll on loan from Spurs might be options for the centre of the park.

We brought in Forrester, King, O'Halloran and just missed out on Diagouraga last January. At that point we were a team trying to get out of the Championship. Now we're a team trying to get second place for a European place which is essential.

Surely if we could have had as much as four players joining last Janauary, that should be the bare minimum for this window.

Thorn76

1.) 14 Nov 2016 16:22:28
We already have players who have not had the time, or sometimes the opportunity, to make an impression this seadon so far, including the likes of O'Halloran, so bringing in another four would just confuse and disrupt things even further. Hill is on record for saying that he's just now getting used to what the manager wants him to do, Rossiter and Crooks have hardly featured for one reason or another, so I would suggest all this 'gelling' and 'planning' is already well behind schedule if it was ever on schedule. I'd go for one middle to front player with some energy and a centre half with some defensive skills and leave it there. If things haven't 'gelled' by the end of the season, or if we haven't 'learned from that' then the manager goes.


2.) 14 Nov 2016 16:28:09
Would prefer loans rather than trust Warbs with money we don't have.


3.) 14 Nov 2016 16:49:01
I wouldn't spend a single penny! For one we don't have it and two we don't need to! Rossiter crooks senderos should be like new signings! i'd take a creative player and a goal poacher on loan if possible.


4.) 14 Nov 2016 18:29:49
Find it funny everyone going on about players in Jan when most of you are saying give warburton time to get the team up to speed, surely another 3 or 4 players shall put him further behind getting the the team up to speed?


5.) 14 Nov 2016 22:04:41
If he brings in more players it gives him the 'gelling' excuse for the rest of the season!


6.) 15 Nov 2016 12:50:36
I think all we need is a defender and for the players we have to up their game and for the injury prone guys to get better and have a run of games but a defender is a must. the centre halfs we have the now just don't cut it .
we need sum1 with pace.


 

 

28 Sep 2016 11:29:02
Starting to recall some of the players we were heavily linked with in the summer or previously and we missed out on, or didn't sign for whatever reason.

Defence - Curtis Nelson/ Dom Ball/ Adrian Mariappa/ Bernardo Espinoza/ Joleon Lescott.

Midfield - Harry Winks/ Conor Hourihane/ Eunan O'Kane/ Gwion Edwards/ Toumani Diagouraga.

Forward - Tammy Abraham/ Jason Cummings.

There's obviously a few more forwards we were linked with but just can't think of any names. Also linked with the young GK Daniel Bentley before Gilks joined.

What positions are priority come January. CB, LW/ RW, or CM?

Thorn76

1.) 28 Sep 2016 12:24:56
A Manager?


2.) 28 Sep 2016 12:54:47
You forgot RVP mate.


3.) 28 Sep 2016 12:57:31
naw no a manager.

defo c/ b's plural and we should try get some money for Kiernan. not that we will get a lot .


4.) 28 Sep 2016 15:00:00
Out of that defence i'd have taken Nelson and Mariappa. The midfield Winks on loan and Hourihane. Forward has to be Abraham.

Don't know if the players mentioned will be targets come January.


5.) 28 Sep 2016 15:03:56
But yeah I'd love to see McLeish, Billy Davies, Derek McInnes or any of the many genius managers mentioned replace one of our most promising managers in decades.

All because of defeats to the team's that finished first and second last year.

And that Aberdeen game wasn't a defeat. That free kick award was the worst decision so far this season.


6.) 28 Sep 2016 16:20:45
It was still a defeat tho thorn mate and were not winning games how long does a club our size accept that we can't win, I think more than anything else for me it's his stubbornness to change from his plan A when it's clearly not working, it did look promising beginning of last season your right about that but we're going back the way rapidly I struggle to comprehend why people can't see that it's good to be supportive but there must come a point we see the obvious.


7.) 28 Sep 2016 18:18:58
Thorn76, when your tem scores 1 and the other team score 2: that is a defeat mate. Honestly, 2 is a higher number than 1 lol HH.


8.) 28 Sep 2016 18:59:43
Nice 1 Bob. 54 is also higher than 47.


9.) 28 Sep 2016 23:05:39
Throw in kouli toure and dembele. think we definitely missed a trick with those 2. they're both playing well at celtic. instead we got hill and dodo, enough said.


10.) 29 Sep 2016 13:47:04
With Dembele we definitely missed a trick
With the money spent on garner could have been
Used on our defence.


11.) 29 Sep 2016 14:43:23
Thorn76 exactly mate, mw and his backroom staff are restructuring our club, from the youngster right through to the first team, and like yourself i can't understand the critisers at our club, the older supporters among our own can see what the club are trying to do, we knew this wouldn't happen over night, it will take a season our two, but when it all comes together we will see a very good dominent side, that's probably the reason other teams support are trying to sllaughter mw, they realise once we get there we will dominate scotish foorball for a long long time, again, we are the people and others know it, i smell the fear.


12.) 29 Sep 2016 16:13:28
big john your right to an extent mate but one two points mate ;
warbs didn't sort out the defence which was the weakest part of our team ?

warbs doesn't know how to adapt (change formation ) when required ?

other than that he has made some good signings and couple of bad ones but mostly good .

I don't understand one thing though as good as the attacking football is and I love it when it works, why can't an attacking minded team play in a different formation which aswell as being attack minded also gives our terrible defence some much much needed cover.
I just don't get why he can't see that!


13.) 02 Oct 2016 14:33:57
davie1980, you shouldn't knock players till they have had a run in the team, I for one thinks Dodoo will be a very good addition .


14.) 02 Oct 2016 15:15:27
Davie1980, you would never of got Dembele or Toure. CL football and Brendan Rodgers were key factors.


 

 

04 Jul 2016 20:49:51
On another site there was a post from someone who is usually rather reliable, saying words to the effect that, if it's the boy I'm told it is we'll be in really good shape, that's for sure.

Sounds so intriguing. Expecting any breaking rumour tonight or in tomorrow's papers, anyone have a clue?

Thorn76

1.) 04 Jul 2016 21:05:54
Lafferty!
Sorry boys, I couldn't resist it.


2.) 04 Jul 2016 21:15:46
Just usual rumour probably.


3.) 04 Jul 2016 21:21:43
Ok Thorn so if nothing comes out tonight or tomorrow, we can say at least your talking rubbish, very vague rumour. No name or anything. At least say the name, because you say you have been told? If you read it back, nothing will come out this evening, definitely nothing tomorrow, it may start end of week.


4.) 04 Jul 2016 22:07:36
No offence Thorn but a deal isn't going to hinge on you keeping it to yourself. The point of the site is to post and comment on rumours, we know we are looking for a striker so let's get the names out for discussion.


5.) 04 Jul 2016 22:11:28
Jay! I think he is quoting the post and asking if anyone knows who it is as he doesn't.


6.) 04 Jul 2016 22:17:30
gblue85 agree.


7.) 04 Jul 2016 22:43:36
Thorne was quoting someone else.


8.) 04 Jul 2016 23:03:07
Albertz, that's what I meant, sorry I wasn't clear guys.

Just quoting a post from another site. Excuse me for the mix up.


9.) 04 Jul 2016 23:18:08
Thorn I really really hope the guy is right bud.


10.) 05 Jul 2016 06:32:10
This Lafferty rumour has to stop! Why if he's coming has more info not been provided from other media sources than Goss! I really hope the guy stays gone.


11.) 05 Jul 2016 11:49:13
JD90 I hope he is right to the man with no name sounds amazing, just what we need! lmao.


12.) 05 Jul 2016 13:40:22
Man needs a name!

Sorry GOT reference.


 

 

17 Jun 2016 16:19:35
Heard somewhere that Clint Hill turned down the Port Vale manager's job to come.

Anyone know if this is true?

Thorn76

1.) 17 Jun 2016 17:04:44
It's true, he was offered a fistful o dollars but turned it down, it was a case of every which way but loose. Think it made his day though.


2.) 17 Jun 2016 17:49:09
Stuzo, he was offered a few dollars more to sign. 😉.


3.) 17 Jun 2016 18:00:02
Port Vale? that's my dad's team lol.


4.) 17 Jun 2016 18:03:18
He has to ask himself one question, does he feel lucky?

Sure he's mentioned he's lucky to be here already.

He's certainly been In the Line of Fire on Rangers forums and fan pages the last few days.

Let's hope he makes a Sudden Impact.

Let's hope Warburton isn't going to be Unforgiven for signing Clint.

So on and so forth.


5.) 18 Jun 2016 08:12:03
Enough with the film puns already. They are so bad you guys will remain Unforgiven.


6.) 18 Jun 2016 08:51:35
Im sure that throughout the season we will see the good the bad and the ugly sides to his game.


7.) 18 Jun 2016 10:24:28
Some great quips guys, canni wait to get started now, in Warbs we trust, some may wonder, client hill, HF, but I recon its sound bit o business, bring Kiernan and Wilson on a bundle I recon, Barton in front o then, and krankjar in the middle, ohhh yeah, it going to be great all we need is Clive up front going ape and we will be sorted.


 

 

07 Jun 2016 20:05:30
Anyone have any sort of ideas who the 2 strikers are who are in talks with the club. They haven't been rumoured in the media.

That means no Adi, no Bradshaw and no Stewart etc.

If it's the same pool we got Waghorn from, could it be someone from the top of the English 1st division.

Few of the goalscorers in that league have been linked with Winall, Sharp, Bradshaw, Armstrong etc.

How about Lee Gregory of Millwall.

Thorn76

1.) 08 Jun 2016 06:44:53
If we're going to be buying players in the £400,000-£500,000 range then Lee Gregory (Millwall) or Jay Simpson (Layton Orient) could be decent buys. Simpson can play CF, RW, LW, so might be the better option. Any thoughts guys.


2.) 08 Jun 2016 08:57:49
Robin van persie.


 

 

 

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23 Sep 2017 15:47:39
Think this is maybe how it feels for some supporters of our current Rangers team.

I remember when we used to play at Ibrox against that lot.

I would feel a mix of surprise and major disappointment if we got well beaten by our rivals at our home ground.

Now I feel a mix of expectation and major relief. Relief that it wasn't more and that we weren't completely walked over.

What a turn of events. Put it this way. Regardless of what eleven a manager is able to put out, you should be able to guarantee a competitive 90 minutes (not 30 minutes), where your well supported team should be able to put up a fight.

What we got today we're in the majority, a group of individuals who were completely terrified of their opponents and shrieked away from anything competitive.

Is it wrong to expect more? Or is this Glasgow Rangers, "New standards".

Thorn76

1.) 23 Sep 2017 16:22:33
one of the most worrying things for me was watching windass having a laugh and a joke with the thumb at the end. guy spent 90 minutes winding us up! applaud the fans and get off the pitch!


 

 

17 Sep 2017 12:29:23
Anyone have ideas for slight changes for the team against Thistle in the cup on Tuesday?


"I am not the type of coach who looks to make changes just for the sake of it. If we have the need to make changes, then we will make changes. The team is ready to play every four days - we have four days to recover and then another four days. We are not concerned about it, but, for example, we need to see what is going on with Lee Wallace, and which players can be options for us on Tuesday. "

This suggests it'll be the same on Tuesday which would be a worry. Would've liked to see Rossiter or Pena get a start but going by this, it looks like it'll be John for Wallace.

Thorn76

1.) 17 Sep 2017 15:57:17
Same team I reckon as you say john for Wallace but on Friday showing I'd rather have Hodson or beerman


2.) 17 Sep 2017 16:11:12
it's beyond me that rossiter doesn't get a game - he's one of the most technical players we have and a proper disciplined defensive mid who wld screen our back 4 and give them cover

the OF game is crying out for a change in formation i'd go 4-5-1 drop windass for rossiter play miller and candeillas wide of a middle 3 suppporting morelos


3.) 17 Sep 2017 17:05:44
I'd agree I'd rather swap Rossiter for Windass than Rossiter for Miller.

Windass shows glimpses in games. But those glimpses are just that, Glimpses! His ability to impact a game lasts for about twenty minutes at most.

Miller is one of the few who know what this game is about and can score against them. Although he featured in a few of those "performances" last season against the other side, he certainly wasn't the only player on the pitch.

We can't have passengers in this game. That goes for Rossiter or Pena also, if they are injured or not up to speed.

Windass would be a passenger for about 90% of the time he's on the field.


4.) 17 Sep 2017 17:49:24
I would start with morelos and herrera upfront, play the same midfield but swap windass for beerman and the back line where to start tav on right welsh boy left and alves in middle and find a right big strong bugger from the pub who can knock lumps outta everyone and manage to clear the line also. And if anyone knows how to re animate davie cooper then get on with it.


5.) 17 Sep 2017 18:22:26
Rossiter is a player I'd agree. But Jack has been one of the most consistent performer this season. He does a lot more than he gets credit for. For example, he pick pocketed the Partick Thisle player to put Morelos in for the opener on Friday.

He's barely had a mention for that goal (albeit it was a fantastic finish) . He's rarely second best to second balls or 50/ 50's. Cracking signing on a free agent. Rossiter definitely does not get in the team before him I'm afraid.

Also, remember he last time we played two CDM's in the same team? Progres happened.

I can't even lie and say I'm optimistic in any shape or form for Saturday. But I'll tell you I'm happy it's Jack opposing Brown on Saturday and not your Halliday's etc.

The result on Friday was not good enough but I feel the players need to take responsibility for that one, Pedro's tactics were fine I think, not much he can do that our players were not brave enough to hold a strong wall. We can't seem to finish teams off when we have our strongest periods of play. I think it's a mentality issue and it needs to be fixed quickly.


6.) 17 Sep 2017 18:35:50
thorn76 you want to see pena start!? Based on what? Have you seen something I haven't?


7.) 17 Sep 2017 19:40:12
Yes I want to see Pena start. Against Thistle in a league cup quarter final. Not necessarily at the weekend.

The goal he scored against Dundee at Ibrox was well taken.

Sure don't need to point out the obvious but It's also coming up for late September and our most expensive player hasn't started once.


8.) 17 Sep 2017 23:14:06
I'd be putting Rossiter and Pena in from the start for Tue game. both are needing as many minutes as possible.

Line up I'd go with for old firm game:

Fod
Tav Fabio Bruno John
Rossiter Jack
Candias Dorrans Miller
Morelos


9.) 17 Sep 2017 23:55:57
Clearly the vast majority of fans on here don't know how pesto wants to play. Tab and Cardozo are effective on the right. When tav bombs up, cardoso and candias cover. Who was covering when John was doing the same? Certainly not windass and definitely not alves what about jack, nope. Only person you seen track back was dorrans. Even the buffalo tracked back. Never a good sign. I would try a 4 231 stick hodson in left back. And use tab to exploit the right. Give John a game over windass and Pena over jack. For Celtic I would go for pure defence otherwise we will get pumped

{Ed033's Note - Is your sauce telling you about a pesto rumour?


 

 

16 Sep 2017 20:04:33
Hate posting after a poor result because like everyone else it leads to knee jerk and over reaction but now it's been 24 hrs, a fair amount of time has come and went that everyone can comment on the result without emotion playing too big a part.

It's not the end of the world, nor Is it ideal given the fact we've drawn with a managerless Hearts 0-0 at Ibrox and got beaten at Ibrox by a referee and a team promoted from Scotland's second tier.

The only result that's really shocked me was the 0-0 with Hearts.

Folk were going into last night's game against Thistle, certain we were picking up three points.

Optimism is great within reason. But when your case for optimism is based on beating a pretty poor Dundee side 4-1 at home and a pretty poor Ross County team 3-1 away from home, your kind of setting up for a fall, when hickups like last night happen.

It's a new team gelling. Like every team in Scotland outwith those from the east end. That produces unexpected results whether it's Rangers, Aberdeen or anyone.

Ultimately the group and PC need time and overreacting game to game helps no one apart from our enemies.

Thorn76

1.) 16 Sep 2017 20:30:08
Very good and measured post thorn. I expected us to be kicking on yesterday considering we seemed to be gelling. I'm unsure now as to whether that was a blip or if that's as good as it gets. We got bullied and good teams don't get bullied. Time will tell


2.) 16 Sep 2017 20:56:00
I expect us to win every game mate (and yes even those at Celtic park) .

I'm 25, so I'm old enough that I can remember the dominance we had under Sir Walter Smith in his second spell at the club.

But expectations have to be diluted slightly given its almost an entire new first team from back to front.

I expected us to kick on considering it was a relatively early goal we scored. At that point you saw no other winner, but as always the team slack off and let teams get a foot hold back in the game.

We have to defeat Thistle on Tuesday to take something positive into the old firm. Hopefully a few changes in personnel will give the team a spark and prove it was just a glitch.


3.) 16 Sep 2017 21:04:45
Thorn everything you said I believe to be true! The days have gone of fortress Ibrox as most teams see us as a big scalp now and raise their game immensely as when the play the unwashed they think they're beat before they play and it's damage limitation! We need to bring back the days of when we play teams they fear us but as we're the " new guys " to the division we have to deal with it accordingly! Now before anyone jumps on the bandwagon and says we were playing away from home I'm saying it metaphorically about the fear factor!


4.) 16 Sep 2017 22:08:53
Still feel we're a match for anyone at Ibrox Blackwood.

Couldn't agree more about teams feeling they're already beat before they even kick off against those from the east end. Not only that but the fans of those teams are resigned to it as well, (apart from St Johnstone and Tommy Wright who cope quite well against them on occasion) .

Think the fear factor is a big issue also. The press treat our club and our manager like a laughing stock and that ain't going to change anytime soon.

As appraised to that lot, they get thrashed in Europe at their midden, taught a football lesson and don't get a look in. The next day one of the worst performers in said game gets linked with a big money move to the premier league with Everton, (Ralston) .

It's a shambles.


5.) 16 Sep 2017 22:52:08
Most/ all teams think they have a real chance of getting something from us and therefore give it that little bit extra, of that I think we can all agree. We need to get a run of some significance going, one that teams start to think (as they do against Celtic) no point, we're beat. It's that psychological factor we need to get back, teams are beating themselves before a ball is kicked.
I really want PC and the team to do well but I'm just not sure what calibre of player we have. Would any of the present team get into a good Eck side or a WS side (second stint) . I'm starting to doubt it


6.) 17 Sep 2017 00:00:33
Start of the season before kick off, Dorrans, Alves, Cardoso, Pena and maybe Herrera were being talked about as being a real massive step up on what we've had and could all ease this league.

Now that there's been some games to judge, Jack, Morelos, Candeias, and perhaps Dorrans, Alves and Cardoso although those three have been a little less consistent.

Overall we've gotten more than we expected from a couple and less than we expected from a couple. Seems that's the way it always pans out.


7.) 17 Sep 2017 00:10:55
A good Eck side? Really! Did he inherit a good team that Motherwell won the league for or did he build something new and positive? Sorry but Big Eck for me wasnt good enough. i'm not saying PC is either. For me what is missing is true passion. i'm sure Pedro is really nice but a manager who instills fire and fear into his players is what's needed. pains me to say it but McInnes


8.) 17 Sep 2017 03:43:58
Well you can look at it like, everyone raises their game against yous, and that explains the results, or you can look at it like, you are truly at the level of Partick Thistle, and a poor Hearts team (who I expect will win easily, next time), and less than where Hibs are at, and the only real marker that might open your eyes will happen, next weekend.


9.) 17 Sep 2017 07:55:52
Commonsense, if pedro caixinha was to be changed as rangers manager and i say IF, as i'm prepared to judge him and the team, at the end of the season, then imho i'd have billy davies as our manager, long before derek mcinnes! Davies is streets ahead of mcinnes as a manager mate! No contest there as far as i'm concerned! We talk about passion, well wee davies has it in abundance, not to mention tremendous managerial and coaching abilities! His record down south in the english championship with numerous clubs, is quite superb!


10.) 17 Sep 2017 08:42:33
Didn't think it would be long until the phrase the team is still gelling was trotted out. This is exactly the same rubbish that was spouted this time last season under Warburton. He failed and so will the current manager. Despite the money spent we are very average and not much bette than the Partick Thistles and Motherwells of the league. Manager will either be gone by Xmas or end of season. Agree with supercooper Billy Davies would be a good shout for manager


11.) 17 Sep 2017 08:59:11
Commonsense, I was using a good Eck side as a comparison, not saying he built a good side, the guy was average at best imo


12.) 17 Sep 2017 13:15:31
billy davies is not the answer. toxic, delusional little man. there's a reason he has been on the dole Q for this long. he is the last thing the club needs!


13.) 17 Sep 2017 13:50:01
Sure big 'arry and Frank are out of jobs, we could just go and get them two and fire another 10m their way for a new team. Of course we would have to pay off the current regime and keep paying all their players but that wouldn't matter because we've got loadsamoney


14.) 17 Sep 2017 13:50:13
Fair one Cletus. there's a very good reason that Davies can't get a job. no even the Hearts one and yet supercooperleven you reckon he is a better choice than McInbes? Not a chance. Guys toxic


15.) 17 Sep 2017 15:19:29
Its guys like you commonsense that billy davies reckons is bad mouthing him and spouting lies, which davies says he's close to proving! Let me get something straight here guys! Derek mcinnes is a good manager but imo not in the same class as billy davies! Check both their managerial records out for yourselves! If we forget all this lies regarding davies off the park and judge him and mcinnes purely on coaching ability, then its a no contest my friends! Like i said billy davies is a far better manager/ coach than derek mcinnes will ever be! Simple as that guys! Judge it for what it is!


16.) 17 Sep 2017 15:37:07
davies has a 40 odd percent win record. mcinnes at the sheep is over 50 percent and so is our very own pedro at the clubs he has been at! so i'm inclined to disagree mate, before you take into account all the crackpot conspiracy theories davies spouts. some of it makes very shady reading and is borderline breakdown material. never has been and never will be good enough for our club, in terms of ability or reputation


17.) 17 Sep 2017 16:25:13
Billy davies? Supercoop yesterday you wanted jason holt in the team now you want billy davies as manager if pedro goes. Are you at it or do you just spout nonsense as a hobby?


18.) 17 Sep 2017 17:19:25
Snell

Difficult to compare managerial win rates for McInnes and Davies. Davies managed in much tougher leagues than McInnes


19.) 17 Sep 2017 18:02:07
Honestly guys don't take this the wrong way but how clueless regarding football, can some folk be! Snell, coldo, commonsense and whoever else let me explain just like sparky1320 has also stated! Billy davies successful in england with preston, derby county, notts forest (especially 1st spell) and motherwell in scotland! Always made the championship play offs with all his clubs, took derby county up to the premiership, holds the record for having won, the most manager of the months awards! Hows that regarding davies? Derek mcinnes done a good job at St. johnstone, was a complete FAILURE at bristol City and has done a good jobit over 4 years as the manager of aberdeen, remembering rangers were out the big league for 4 years! Digest it for what it is my friends and surely to god, you must see there's no contest here between davies and mcinnes! Its billy davies by a mile and its there for all to see! COLDO, regarding your statement i want our manager pedro caixinha to be given every chance and time to hopefully succeed! I stated IF he didn't i'd have billy davies! As regards to jason holt again i stated i personally feel in the upcoming old firm game, he'd be a better bet and more reliable than josh (20 minutes) windass, who has no heart and not much workrate to be honest! We can't have any passengers, against them on saturday! Hope you can digest and grasp what i'm saying coldo! Just take a breath and think, when you read my post here!


20.) 17 Sep 2017 18:12:54
better standard of football sure, but in terms of club size against the teams they play against i wouldn't say it was that big a difference if that makes sense? was just interesting to look at the actual facts and stats of it all. never mind taking into account davies being a lunatic! haha


21.) 17 Sep 2017 20:38:55
Just a hobby then supercoop, have a day off mate.


22.) 17 Sep 2017 20:41:23
dont think its people being clueless about football mate, its all just a matter of opinion. just like myself and a few others find it preposterous that out of anyone who would be given the reigns at our club, you choose an unemployed crack job, out of work for five years that every other club he has worked with ended up regretting! i wouldn't give the guy a job flogging the half time pies!


23.) 17 Sep 2017 21:15:05
Out of work for 5 years you say snell? So as well as not knowing much about football, you also can't count! Not got that much going for you mate! I'm sure you're good at something! I hazard a guess, maybe netball mate!


 

 

14 Sep 2017 11:04:52
If the club had left MW in charge, what signings would we have made this season?

Jack/ Dorrans would've likely come regardless of the manager. Think that's about it from the lads brought here under PC.

Walker/ McClean/ Lyndsay/ Cummings/ seem the most obvious.

Perhaps Cadden/ Meekings/ Hayes from this league.

Bridcutt/ Naismith from down south.

Dowell/ Darikwa both joined Forrest under MW. Possible targets if he was still in charge.

With Jack and Dorrans anchoring the midfield, Naismith would've likely been stuck out right with McKay getting a new contract and Cummins up front. Obviously would have signed another CB as well as Lyndsay. Perhaps he would've went for a similar signing to Clint Hill but can't think of who.

Thorn76

1.) 14 Sep 2017 11:24:57
who gives a monkeys mate? we are in a better position than we would have been in under him. the board didn't trust him with money and hibs would have never sold us cummings


2.) 14 Sep 2017 11:38:11
I really don't care about who we could have had if that clown was still in charge. Guaranteed we would still be losing set piece goals and not scoring enough, so for me, its an afterthought that isn't worth thinking about, with all due respect Thorn


3.) 14 Sep 2017 12:36:43
Nottingam Forest have won 4 and lost 3 in their first 7 games and are sitting 8th in the Championship with a goal difference of minus 1. Hardly hitting the ground running and Mackay seems to be under the radar (again) . No loss to us.


4.) 14 Sep 2017 12:44:04
I know, I know, it's bit woulda, coulda, shoulda. Not so much of the shoulda.

Agreed, the basics are improving. But we are still losing really cheap goals. But the conversion rate is really poor, and substandard performers like Niko and Kenny are still playing nearly every game. Hope PC isn't falling into the same traps as the previous man at the helm.

No doubt we'd have been worse off with MW in charge and most of the signings Pedro has made have had an impact and are in or around the first team.


5.) 14 Sep 2017 14:23:14
I can put up with Miller as i think he'l always get goals but Niko is a no-no. i'm not 1 for thinking beyond the nxt game usually but nxt wk we nd to b more compact and robust against them which means i think leaving Kenny out and bringing Rossiter into the centre with Jack and playing Dorrans a touch further forward with Windass and Candeias ocuppying the wings


6.) 14 Sep 2017 15:28:01
We have scored 7 goals in our last 2 games, cannot remember since the championship when we done that under Warbs, overall we look more settled as a unit, still room to improve but I'm a lot more content this season. Conversion may not be great but the buffalo is only 4 or 5 goals off of equalling our top scorer from last season, so for me things ARE moving forward mate.


7.) 14 Sep 2017 17:25:06
I think the problem is when the fan base as a whole starts to get content, something always seems to come along to throw a spanner in the works.

Whether it's an obviously cheating official, someone missing chances on a regular basis, or an injury to a regular starter.

None of this can be stopped throughout a season, it will happen, you can count on that.

I won't be content until we've had at least 4,5 league game wins on the bounce.


8.) 14 Sep 2017 18:38:41
Or what if we had got either mcleish, mcinnses or tommy wright. For me it woulda been out of those 3 hands down. Like you say though no point dwelling on the what ifs, we are stuck with PC now and old firm number 1 is just round the corner.


9.) 14 Sep 2017 20:42:51
We clearly have quite a forward thinking board.

Stewart Robertson also said they want to get players from markets that are more affordable or where you get better value for money.

McLeish, Mciness, Wright would've been a step backward from Warburton and certainly wouldn't have given the club a chance to exploit those markets.

You can guarantee if it wasn't Pedro, it would have been another European manager from some other obscure league.

Similar to what the other side tried with Delia.


10.) 15 Sep 2017 06:08:54
We certainly wouldn't have had Bruno Alves playing for us in any of those alternate manager scenarios.


11.) 15 Sep 2017 14:13:07
fod the guy is working hard to get our team playing good football and u hate him because of two games and a silly comment c'mon try say something positive about the manager of glasgow rangers or are u one of the unwashed in disguise


 

 

04 Aug 2017 21:10:52
Been a Rangers fan for longer than 5 minutes so I know how much we as a fan base are so quick to have a go at our own players when things aren't going to well.

But this season has to be one of the most important in the club's history and its amazing to see how little we value some of our players and how easily we tear into them before a meaningful domestic ball is even kicked.

The euro catastrophe aside coupled with some awful performances from players who downed tools towards the end of last season, should have absolutely no bearing on what happens from 6th August onwards.

Fully optimistic going into this season. The spine of the team has been improved ten fold. Young promising defender alongside an experienced European Championship winning defender. Young Scottish midfielder alongside an experienced top level Scottish midfielder. Strong dominant Forward in Herrera alongside a great young prospect in Morelos.

What isn't there to be optimistic about?

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1.) 04 Aug 2017 21:24:00
I share your optimism, but I've said it for years. "We are the most fickle fans in Europe"

We demand success . and rightly so, but when things go a bit pear shaped, we are too quick to criticise the Manager, individual players or the board.

Looking forward to the start of the new season with a renewed optimism. step up n play. 🇬🇧


2.) 04 Aug 2017 21:29:05
Well said thorn76 totally agree


3.) 04 Aug 2017 21:52:29
The quality throughout the team is incredible compared to last season.

Daniel Candeias has been quite great on the right and is probably the only outright winger we've had in a few years.

Pair him with the likely signing of Jamie Walker, it's looking like we have very strong options out wide. Compared to none at the end of last season.

Apart from Full Back we've improved every outfield position, which is sensational.

Pedro gets criticised when he deserves it, he'll certainly get praised when he deserves it.


4.) 04 Aug 2017 21:57:01
I've been guilty of this scepticism in the past but you're right there is scope for optimism - they and the shaggers have struggled in Europe as well as we have and there are beginnings of a good - not great - team
By the way good ol'Bazza scored for the bread mans oddball team tonight in the Championship for what looks a win


5.) 04 Aug 2017 23:10:45
I totally agree. We have been making steps each season in the right direction and now are at a point that we could maybe challenge. 3rd in the league this season is a failure considering the investment. Celtic played on a crest of confidence last season thinking they will win every game and all opponents thought they would win, its a cycle top teams can get in and stay in.

Someone must break that for celtic for a few games at a time and we must get into that groove to even have a chance to win the league. Right now a I don't know how the season will unfold but be assured we have a Rangers side on the pitch, Granted not the best ever but we can and should compete with the best the SPl can offer.

PS - Cardoso and Morelos will be at the end of the season be worth 10 m each.


6.) 05 Aug 2017 23:32:24
A very good post by the op! We need to be more optimistic! We do have reason to be! Our team has been I measurably improved (credit to the board! )

I hope we don't expect too much from young morales this season as I think he needs time! He'll be a good player for us but he's young and very raw! Herrera will be our main striker this season and he worries me a bit as he looks a bit lazy for my liking


 

 

 

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30 Aug 2017 13:29:13
Wasn't this lad seriously competing with Ben Davies for the LB position for Wales a few years back?

Last time I checked Davies was playing a part in one of the best teams in England.

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28 Aug 2017 13:03:40
Also suggests if Mark Allen is handling the transfers, it might be doubtful we'll see more Portuguese players brought in

Think it'll be Walker and a loan deal from City. Think we'll try for Kenny McClean but won't get him.

Doubt Mark Allen or Pedro Caixinha have really grasped the bitterness that lot have towards our massive club.

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28 Aug 2017 12:27:27
The Bruce Archer article suggests Mark Allen has been tasked with trying to secure Walker.

Amazing how quick people's opinions have changed on Walker. Poor against us because they were instructed by legendary former Scotland manager Craig Levein to go with the 4-6 formation.

Plays poorly in the next game and fans automatically think he's garbage. Forgetting how he played last season, and apparently how he played against Newcastle in a friendly where he was the best player on the park.

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07 Aug 2017 17:36:25
Absolutely not. Moult should have walked in the game against Motherwell.

He isn't the type of player we need. Motherwell is his level.

Naismith isn't the goalscorer we need but would be a clear improvement on most of the players in the league including those that play in the east end of Glasgow.

Walker will happen eventually. Best player in the league outwith our team and the lot mentioned previously.

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13 Mar 2017 23:49:42
Would 100% rule out Neil McCann.

The main reason being, like most ex Rangers players/ "legends", he's criticised the managerial appointment.

Wouldn't be surprised or disappointed to see someone like John Brown get the job, as the manager's "local assistant" . No idea what he thinks of the appointment of Caixinha, but it's obvious Rangers runs through the man's veins.

Most seem to be against Barry Ferguson, and I really don't think Pedro Caixinha is likely to go down the pundit, gossip column, tv analyst route like most are anticipating.

That's what you'd get with Rae, Ferguson, McCann etc.

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23 Sep 2017 16:37:14
Would agree with your sentiment about Pedro.

But to suggest the usual suspects like McCiness, McCleish and Tommy Wright are the only names out there to replace him, or that anyone good enough wouldn't take the job, is just as ridiculous as those wanting Pedro out after seven games.

Aitor Karanka.
Nigel Pearson.
Michael O Neill.
Slavisa Jokanovic.
Vitor Pereria.

Just throwing names out there.

Michael O Neill would be my personal choice but I'm well aware that he'd likely not come to us.

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{Ed001's Note - Pearson has just taken a new job.}


 

 

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18 Sep 2017 14:28:26
Agree about Walker Bluepete.

Think in hindsight it was obvious early on we weren't going to get him this window. When they put a million price tag on him, we should've started looking elsewhere.

Having a Manchester City u23 player in Nemane as our only definitive left midfield option is scandalous.

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18 Sep 2017 13:38:11
Not the only reason but have a feeling one of the main reasons is because of all the noise the media creates after any dropped points, or even when we win and don't play well.

We're even getting them making jokes about things Pedro says in press conferences. What chance does the guy have when not only are blatantly obvious enemies are making jokes at your expense, but also your own supporters?

Every Rangers manager should get full support until they're no longer in the clubs employment, regardless of how anyone feels.

As they say "If you shout loud enough, it becomes the truth".

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17 Sep 2017 19:40:12
Yes I want to see Pena start. Against Thistle in a league cup quarter final. Not necessarily at the weekend.

The goal he scored against Dundee at Ibrox was well taken.

Sure don't need to point out the obvious but It's also coming up for late September and our most expensive player hasn't started once.

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17 Sep 2017 17:05:44
I'd agree I'd rather swap Rossiter for Windass than Rossiter for Miller.

Windass shows glimpses in games. But those glimpses are just that, Glimpses! His ability to impact a game lasts for about twenty minutes at most.

Miller is one of the few who know what this game is about and can score against them. Although he featured in a few of those "performances" last season against the other side, he certainly wasn't the only player on the pitch.

We can't have passengers in this game. That goes for Rossiter or Pena also, if they are injured or not up to speed.

Windass would be a passenger for about 90% of the time he's on the field.

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