Rangers rumours 2

08 Dec 2023 07:49:46
Noticed that McKenna and Worrall are likely to be away in January. Are we in for either of them? Wouldn't be a bad shout considering how desperate we are to strengthen in that position.

08 Dec 2023 08:35:19
Think mckenna has turned into a good quality CB. Would also be homegrown that knows the league and what we are all about. Could do a lot worse.

08 Dec 2023 10:12:11
Worrall def NO - imo McKenna would fit the bill but meeting equivalent wages will be an issue if Fenerbache and foreign teams come calling.

08 Dec 2023 10:37:20
Worrall has improved massively from his last time blue, anyway we can't afford him.

08 Dec 2023 11:58:30
Why are we desperate to sign a defender exactly? We have the best defence record in league currently!

08 Dec 2023 12:07:14
We need to upgrade our Defence, should have done it 3 years ago. Our defensive record is as it is thanks largely to Butland. We need pace and fresh legs.

08 Dec 2023 12:23:47
I’d take big McKenna. Strong left footed defender, would get ahead of Davies for me.

08 Dec 2023 12:24:14
GDog10, you can put that down to the great goalkeeper behind them.

08 Dec 2023 12:49:54
If McKenna signs for Fenerbahce in January we`ll get him in the summer if we really want him . Very few British players last very long in Turkey .

08 Dec 2023 13:08:36
WSL - Turkey pay higher wages than us - therefore his agent will look for comparable cash elsewhere and that's where we drop out the equation - hence why Scottish clubs need to buy when players are here in our leagues before letting their heads be turned by big cash South or elsewhere abroad.

08 Dec 2023 14:25:21
Wsl if fenerbache sign him in jan or a 3 or 4 year deal there's no way we would stump up cash 6 month later to buy him out contract. he's on 30k a week at forest. Fenerbache reported willing to pay him 50k a week.

08 Dec 2023 19:16:40
I would gladly sign both McKenna and Worrall. They are both better than what we currently have. Right now our best centre half pairing is Goldson and Balogun, Davies just doesn't look like he will ever be of the quality needed and remains a waste of £4m and John Souttar just cannot stay fit for long enough to be consider as an option.

08 Dec 2023 20:25:51
Yes Turkey pay higher wages than us, but only for the first few weeks, how many players have had trouble getting paid.

08 Dec 2023 23:48:04
Makenna n boy from miriwoski Aberdeen, off to celtic.

09 Dec 2023 12:53:39
Improved massively ? but can't get a game for Forrest ?

Sick of people think just because a player has done well in championship means they are going to do well in Scotland it's simply not always the case.

Worryall was here before and was not good enough

McKenna is a thug and clumsy no better than souttar

He also has hamstring problems that are getting more frequent add to heavy pitches in Scotland recipe for disaster.

09 Dec 2023 12:55:13
There was a reason a few of us called him

Worryall

Instead of

Worral

Decent on deck poor in the air couldn't handle Scottish football.

09 Dec 2023 16:59:40
We had defensive upgrades that cost less than a 300.000. and were sold for 30 million, which has been squandered away, and as you can see all that investment back into the team, we are now the kings of SPFL and highly feared in europe (Sarcasm)
Patterson and Bassey were easily the best young CB and RB in the league by a mile.
The board / club aren't interested in keeping our best assets, they would rather give that benefit to other clubs, line there own pockets, then let the newest manager squander the change on garbage replacements that aren't even 20% of the players we got rid off.
Doesn't take a genius to see it costs us far more in the long run to find a player even remotely of the quality we continually get in.

The europa final XI was assembled for a measely sum of 11.5 mill pound.
With Kent, Goldson and Barsic taking up majority of that money.

07 Dec 2023 18:17:31
Alex Rae on Sunderland short list.

07 Dec 2023 19:26:09
Any indication if he wants to go down to England again?

07 Dec 2023 20:08:44
My newcastle utd pals down there are telling me that john eustace and kevin muscat are the 2 most spoke about names, regarding the sunderland manager's job ? I hope they give it to scott brown ? as i don't particularly like the black cats.

07 Dec 2023 20:11:37
Burt, he would be the manager, will get more than we will offer.

07 Dec 2023 20:40:22
Alex Rae played the best games of his career as a Sunderland player in my opinion, well respected in Sunderland John.

07 Dec 2023 20:50:20
Those Newcastle Utd pals are up there with timalloy kid in pals in the east ?‍♂️.

07 Dec 2023 21:33:54
Muscat not working so could be a good shout.

07 Dec 2023 22:10:07
I would like it to be Muscat fife.

07 Dec 2023 22:23:27
John, I would love to know who told you that because Alex isn't aware that he is on the shortlist and I can tell you now that Alex Rae will not be going to Sunderland.

07 Dec 2023 23:01:33
Think you will find just bookies trying to generate a book.

07 Dec 2023 23:09:20
He's been assisting PC for under 3 months om sure we, ll survive if he did go.

07 Dec 2023 23:49:57
So we are now led to believe that Newcastle utd fans are privvy to the Sunderland boards shortlist of managers? Cool story.

08 Dec 2023 00:09:22
I really couldn't give two flying ducks about Alex Rae and Sunderland.

08 Dec 2023 00:20:17
Why otters Clement seems to like Rae?

08 Dec 2023 07:36:23
Get a grip of yourself sir waltermccoist?I only said talk not gospel pal! Some posters on here just don't stop ?.

08 Dec 2023 07:55:25
Good stuff Walter. Rae was interviewed nyesterday.

08 Dec 2023 08:29:22
Crp. A director at Sunderland

That would be good news as I really want him to stay with us.

08 Dec 2023 08:29:33
Alex Rae isn’t on the Sunderland shortlist.

08 Dec 2023 11:59:27
Alex Rae is not going to Sunderland.

08 Dec 2023 13:42:53
Gdog where do u think Alex Rae will go.

08 Dec 2023 23:13:30
OK John, I very much doubt that even if you did know a director at Sunderland they would tell you about a shortlist because the reason Mowbray got sacked is they already knew who they wanted.
They are not going to sack a well established manager to replace him with someone who is less well established. The fans loved Mowbray btw but I guess given you know a director, you will know why they let him go, it certainly wasn't to replace him with a guy who has been a no2 to Paul Ince for a large chunk of his coaching career.

06 Dec 2023 12:49:57
Any whispers about new players in or out in January thanks.

06 Dec 2023 14:12:30
Michy Batushuayi struggling for game time at fenerbache has got one year left. Experienced striker.

06 Dec 2023 14:32:00
A new striker is desperately needed. hopefully move a few players on. very disappointed our new Dof doesn't join until next month.

06 Dec 2023 15:19:06
That's because his attitude is poor and his wage would be too high. Personally I'd be using any budget to try and get shankland unless PC has someone lined up from Belgium or France, I'm sure there's someone he'll target from his time coaching in those countries.

06 Dec 2023 15:47:38
Need a proven competent striker that's done well or doing well in Scotland n will hit the ground running.

06 Dec 2023 16:01:11
Need to sign Shankland and somehow offload Lammers and Dessers.

06 Dec 2023 16:53:38
A think whoever we bring in will have worked under Clement before or at least played in the leagues he’s managed in, if we do manage to get a few out the door then all the better as I don’t see us splashing too much cash, the Shankland debate will continue till the summer when he has a year left on contract and realistic transfer could be achieved, hopefully he does not impress our manager tonight.

06 Dec 2023 16:55:40
I don't see the point in signing Shankland as hearts will demand a few million for him and he has no resale value. Would rather go for one of the lads at Aberdeen.
Mark the new DOF will already have the players in his sights as we will be in a similar market to PSV for upcoming talent. We are still waiting on red tape to be sorted regarding work permits etc.

06 Dec 2023 17:18:16
I highly doubt we will sign anyone on perm deal maybe a couple of loans

Unless someone moves on for a fee or we get a few of wage bill it will be frees and loans.

06 Dec 2023 18:43:57
Don’t expect any signings for cash in January. PC and JB have already told us to not expect movement and we need to become break even. Our budget was blown in the summer on the duds such as Desses, Lammers, Sterling, Dowell etc.

It will be a couple of loans maybe even bringing back Lowry and Hagi so they can be put under the careful eye of PC.

Summer will be yet again another rebuild.

06 Dec 2023 19:16:40
Armando broja fae chelsea good big powerfull striker only 22 love to see him even a loan deal.

06 Dec 2023 22:56:26
Danilo is starting to look every bit as bad as the other 2.

06 Dec 2023 23:38:29
Intr 86 doubt Santa could even pull a loan deal for him off for us.

07 Dec 2023 01:23:47
I don’t see how we blew the budget on likes of Sterling and Dowell? They were free transfers. Plus neither has really had a chance yet to impress so wouldn’t include them in the put down

Beale blew the budget on the 3 donkeys up front. Best part of £15m on 3 forwards who combined haven’t scored more goals than our right back

Dreadful.

07 Dec 2023 01:39:35
Wonder if hearts would take danillo, dessers and lammers for shankland? ?suppose we could throw jack in too.

07 Dec 2023 02:46:59
I’ve heard a few people worry about resale value. Is the most important thing not scoring goals and winning games. We can’t have a team of players under 25 just so they can be resold.

07 Dec 2023 06:34:49
I agree Blue89 as winning trophies is the no.1 target for me also mate ? I do realise it's a bit of both but if we chose to go and try and sign shankland as the guy to get us at least 20 goals season on season, then resale value on him is in pale significance to what he could possibly bring to the table, for me anyway ?.

07 Dec 2023 07:39:00
Blue / SWS - We need a blend of youth and experience - for years we have rewarded service and not all those who have been given extended contracts warranted it - we have been left in a hole by previous regimes (asleep at wheel etc etc) - it is a business we run too so do need some players with a resale value and not just pension seekers - we may need a little hurt for longer term gain but we have too many senior players just treading water at present and taking big bucks from the club and giving little trophies in return! IMO.

07 Dec 2023 09:16:25
Shankland or Miovski. The business needs done!

Danilo has turned in to Dessers and almost all hope is lost.
Last night should have been 5 or 6 nil but we missed absolute sitters.

At this point Tav would be best playing up front.

Sterling actually looked a bit of player, and that was well out of position.
Cifu played well and just needs more game time.

Need to find another Ross McCausland with a left foot for our left wing lol.

07 Dec 2023 09:19:25
Thought sterling looked a prospect when he came on, guy needs a run before we can say he's a dud like lammers and dessers, those 2 have had way too many opportunities and blew every one of them,2 empty jerseys so goodbye to the pair of them!

07 Dec 2023 10:22:47
Theres no chance we're going to buy a 31-year-old - shankland with zero sell on value.

07 Dec 2023 10:38:14
He (Shankland) is 28 Paul86 - we do need goals so if buying him, we would need to take a potential hit! Up to PC and the moneymen where we go from here.

07 Dec 2023 10:49:22
Shankland ain't 31 years old Paul86 ?.

07 Dec 2023 11:52:33
Shankland would cost too much, bound to be better options available.

07 Dec 2023 12:21:35
Ffs Paul you just adding 3 years oan everybody now? ?‍♂️.

07 Dec 2023 12:23:50
Abu Dhabi again nonsense from you. You have no credit posting anymore about transfer activity. In the summer you guaranteed x, y and z about players being sold before we can buy etc which was all nonsense. Negative fans like you are what drag us down.

07 Dec 2023 13:43:45
Yeah why not eh? ???? god knows where i read that ?? still prefer miovski i think.

07 Dec 2023 14:34:54
A few mill on shankland is well earth it as its no risk we know he will do well, we know what we are getting, a proven striker home and away, Scottish international, n no problem finding the net.

07 Dec 2023 14:48:12
I would rather pay the money for the lad miovski from Aberdeen than get Shankland. Has shown he is just as good a finisher but at 24 will give us that bit extra should he develop into a better player.
As for this window our business has to be similar to last January where we brought in Cantwell and Raskin for way below market value as both entered last 6 months. We will possibly bring in a couple on loan and I reckon anything else will be pre contracts for next season. I don't see big money being spent unless we move players on that just aren't a good fit. Send a few out on loan.

07 Dec 2023 15:01:42
Can’t see us getting Shankland in January, if a deal is possible it will be the summer when a year left on his deal, as a Rangers fan he just has to say not signing another deal or going anywhere else other than ibrox, so they either take the deal or keep him for the season, us wasting money in the summer is going to haunt us in the January market, difficult to get rid or bring in, to be fair on Danilo his play outside the box has been fine, getting in the positions is fine but instinctive finishing has let him down, the next games up too jan are huge for him.

07 Dec 2023 15:41:30
We are not getting miovski

I think he's a great finisher but some of his general play is poor and we would not pay Aberdeen the 4million they want.

07 Dec 2023 16:05:40
Plus Shankland bodied a few Gers players including Lunny last night. Shanks looks solid.

07 Dec 2023 16:36:45
Shankland has great body strength ally.

07 Dec 2023 16:49:09
Would take both Miovski and Shankland any day before those we have currently . Roofe excluded, who's unfortunately a waste of a wage. Kevin Nisbet another we should have gone for. Need to be hoovering up the talent succeeding in our league before buying duds from abroad.

07 Dec 2023 17:24:28
Gms nisbet just as injury prone as roofe.

08 Dec 2023 02:21:22
Anyone else hearing rangers trying to put a package together for sima on a perm deal

a few people have said it now but nobody I would say has inside knowledge

Anyone any info on this?

08 Dec 2023 02:54:34
Gofor PC has said he will have talks with Sima and that he would like to keep him if it's possible. So every chance we are looking into it.

08 Dec 2023 08:44:07
I think Lowry could be the key to a deal with Hearts regarding Shankland as long as we get a good sell on deal.

08 Dec 2023 09:10:52
Scrambled, a sell on and a buy back for Lowry would be good.

08 Dec 2023 12:01:32
Here we go usual suspects with Danilo is as bad as rest because he missed a couple of shots! Fricken laughable.

08 Dec 2023 13:59:32
Sir Walter do u think shankland would be our penalty taker as I don’t see him scoring 20 league goals in league if he doesn’t.

02 Dec 2023 15:37:27
Apologies if this has already been posted, couldn't be bothered scrolling through posts. I've heard that Lammers wants away in the January window. don't know if there is any truth in this? I personally hope it's true.

Nothing against the guy, I even thought at one point he could have been good. I got that one wrong. He's just not making the grade @ Rangers. Shame to see any player fail that plays for Rangers, but unfortunately he's just not good enough.

02 Dec 2023 16:44:06
Good! If he needs help packing his bags, I'm available.

02 Dec 2023 17:22:51
Beach football for the big man. Lovely hair for it.

02 Dec 2023 17:37:00
I'll drive him to the airport. there's room in my car for Sterling, Dowell and Dessers?.

02 Dec 2023 19:02:44
Was not long ago people on here were saying how good dowell was now they are going to drive him up the road ?.

02 Dec 2023 19:06:11
Be great if he does want away. We will take a some hit in transfer fee tho. absolutely honkin.

02 Dec 2023 19:38:04
He hasn’t been good enough and the fans have made their minds up. Had high hopes for him but at this moment in time no great loss. Hoped the same for dessers but doesn’t look like that will happen either. Looks like they will leave at a loss.

02 Dec 2023 21:43:07
Anybody in that squad who is unhappy and wants to leave can go. The only one who might find a club comparable to Rangers is Butland and none of them should kid themselves that they are irreplaceable. The old boys who helped win 55 and got us to the final in Europe have contributed something but the rest should be grateful they ever got to play for a club like Rangers and in fact how some of them did, is beyond belief .

02 Dec 2023 21:53:42
cannot see anyone wanting him tbh.

02 Dec 2023 23:26:48
Another beale bad decision obvious from lammers day 1 interview he expected to be played as a striker not midfielder.

03 Dec 2023 00:41:49
No wonder he is pissed off when the manager plays that clown Lammers in front of him … Cantwell should be central like last year… he ripped Celtic apart in there… but clement stick him out wide… think the manager could be another le guen… a blind man can see Lammers is dung….

03 Dec 2023 01:15:50
Manager could be under instructions to get the best out of players he wants sold

A bit hard to sell lammers if not playing

Lol having said that it's also a bit harder if teams seen him play ?.

03 Dec 2023 01:30:52
Biggest issue if true is can we recoup any money for him. At least getting rid even for a substantial loss will free us of his wages. But who would take him.

03 Dec 2023 05:03:06
He’s the third Chuckle brother! Absolutely hopeless!

03 Dec 2023 10:02:26
Harun, if you didn't do your job correctly your boss would get someone who could so to. call PC a dud is ridiculous TC has to stop believing his own hype and knuckle down or he'll be out the door long before PC.

03 Dec 2023 12:34:04
@Mark44 why would you want rid of Sterling? Boys hardly had a chance, Dowell I can understand as he’s too injury prone and Dessers goes without saying but Sterling is a strange one!

03 Dec 2023 14:25:28
G- bone, we're paying him 20k a week for what?

03 Dec 2023 15:40:59
Agreed one Walter. Harhun completely clueless. Could be another Timmy.

03 Dec 2023 23:07:21
Is Kieran dowell actually injured not seen him on the bench in a while and not heard the manager speak about him.

04 Dec 2023 09:48:26
Surely we have to learn by now it takes players time to settle sometimes tbf never thought Dowell would cut it at Rangers but Lammers might be the next Matondo.

04 Dec 2023 11:19:48
Gofor

Can't see PC been told to generate firesale by playing cr££ when three bad results or three good ones by us has us up there. Best team always. Cantwell subbed first half, then Sunday had great game. PC obv. Had a word.

05 Dec 2023 21:30:29
You will find a lot of players will want to leave Scotland not just Lammers if the Scottish government follow through with their increase with their tax plans.

06 Dec 2023 23:56:16
I can’t remember how much we paid for Lammers,
But I wouldn’t be prepared to let him leave without recouping the fee.
I feel the same about Dessers but may be prepared to make a small loss if a replacement became available at the correct price which I think is unlikely in January.
We definitely can’t afford paying out 4 million on players and letting them go after half a season for nothing and that’s the problem.

08 Dec 2023 02:24:55
Lammers has been poor but I at least never question he puts in the effort just simply not good enough at moment.

But if I had to choose between lammers and hagi I'd take hagi.

02 Dec 2023 15:36:44
Heard today that Cantwell has told his agent to get him a move back down south in January. Not happy under Clement and being subbed on Thursday was the breaking point. Now wants a move down south with interested parties being sounded out.

02 Dec 2023 16:10:48
He'd be better off sorting himself out and fighting for a place in the team, show the manager he's worth his place through hard work.
Running away when the going gets tough will hardly inspire anyone to sign a player that is unwilling to meet a challenge head on.

02 Dec 2023 16:16:33
Sometimes the personalities just can't work, think we'd get a few mill for him. From recent days sterling, yilmaz, dowell, cantwell, lammers and dessers mentioned for moves, could we get 10m+ for that lot? Get a LB, CAM, winger and ST in? I think given how games have panned out Clement will now know who he doesn't need.

02 Dec 2023 16:20:40
£10million and 10 percent sell on clause and I would not be that bothered.

02 Dec 2023 16:22:18
Get him to f. then. He had instructions to stay wide and didn’t stay wide 100% I back the manager.

02 Dec 2023 16:25:15
I really rate and like todd cantwell but if that's remotely true bellshilllad83 and he does want away then we shouldn't hold on to an unhappy player and sell him, if that's what he's definitely wanting ?.

02 Dec 2023 17:08:08
Hes got to play the number 10 role, he is our most creative player getting played out of position for the likes of lammers.

02 Dec 2023 17:37:15
Cantwell didn’t not follow the gaffers instructions to undermine him, he is a 10 that is used to 360 space round about him, he likes to get on the ball and influence attacking phases of play. He can’t do that if he’s hugging a touchline with restricted movement. Yes he did wander inside and get caught on the ball however I strongly believe that he did this to get on the ball and create. I’m not defending him or blaming Lammers but if Lammers had taken up the correct positions, then Cantwell couldn’t have drifted in. I’m a Cantwell fan as a 10 and he should be played there to get the best out of him.

02 Dec 2023 17:39:10
We'll make good money on him.

02 Dec 2023 18:13:12
Nobody questioning where he heard it, down the chippy or off a taxi driver. Think its bull.

02 Dec 2023 19:05:08
Kissing the badge one week wants away the next. see ya later, sure some team in England will give us a few million for him.

02 Dec 2023 19:06:19
People need to stop blaming Lammers for the failings for cantwell next it will be Lammers fault he dives and gets booked.

02 Dec 2023 19:32:22
I give this one zero credibility.

02 Dec 2023 19:40:22
Bellshill info usually good jfm. No need for that.

02 Dec 2023 20:14:11
The jump on as soon as someone hints at a rumour is embarrassing. A mere rumour and we have people calling him out and saying he should go. Keyboard Guardiolas.

02 Dec 2023 21:11:11
I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, but we are not getting anywhere near what some think we will. We'll be lucky to get anything north of 5m. And I mean very lucky to!

02 Dec 2023 21:36:00
We will see if it's good in time captain tav, I think its bull and I am entitled to say so just as Bellshill can say he heard it.

02 Dec 2023 21:38:31
This incident happened on
Thursday night and he's had a conversation with his agent and it's got back to Bellshill by Saturday afternoon. I find that very unlikely.

02 Dec 2023 21:47:15
I would prefer he get back to the hard working creator he was last season. If he does that he will get a game every week. I back the manager but it surely is a bad move to make good players unhappy by keeping bad players in the team. Maybe its because they can get money for Cantwell if the sell him but couldn`t give Lammers away.

02 Dec 2023 22:00:46
Raskinroyal who says he wants away, one poster on here.

02 Dec 2023 23:32:10
I'm torn on this issue

It's obvious that pc has some of the same ideas that gio had on fitness and the players have too much power over the situation.

Have got away with sub par fitness and performances for too long.

On one hand do you let a manager make wholesale changes with power like Beale had and just hope he knows better.

I'd have to lean towards yes we need to move on any elements in our club that don't fully get behind the managers way of doing things as much as I love cantwell if these rumours are true then sorry it's comply or game over for any player.

02 Dec 2023 23:34:14
Rumours of players not liking methods under gio now rumours of players not liking methods under pc

Hope this isn't true because if it is we need to fully back manager and that means another complete rebuild and move on anybody Nog willing to put work in.

03 Dec 2023 01:54:49
Yet another player who seems to be downing tools when the going gets tough. We've plenty of them in this squad. He's a player we could make money on though and fund some other players. Not many of them in the team. Let's hope somebody feels the need to buy those we got on free transfers and somebody stupid enough to offer decent cash for Lammers and Dessers.

03 Dec 2023 05:59:27
People saying qe will get good money fir Cantwell. From who?
Engliah clubs do not want him. I take it Real Madrid fancy him haha.

03 Dec 2023 12:36:28
End of the day no ones better than the Jersey, you are a team player n if not good enough you get subbed, we all have bad games, but role with the program or go,

03 Dec 2023 17:38:49
Diablo, he was basically a free signing, so whatever money he goes for will be profit.

04 Dec 2023 09:11:33
this forum is getting very laughable.
Firstly its a rumour regarding our potentially best player, and on his day, best player in the country. And its a RUMOUR.
Secondly, your best player is being played out of position and making way for a player who shouldn't even be given a jersey in Lammers.

You would think that you would play your best players in their best positions and also not play absolute scrubs.

If not for Cantwell yesterday, that game was finishing nil nil.


Dessers was terrible, as usual. its like having a man down.
Sima was crap barring the two goals that were put on a plate for him by Cantwell.

Seems we are back to the style of passing the ball from RB to CB to LB and back again, same as under Beale. Loads of possession but creating very little.

Dowell and Sterling have not been given a chance at this club and very unfair on them.
Lammers and Dessers have bene given far too much time on the pitch and its time for a change.

08 Dec 2023 02:26:41
Ally are we not to discuss rumours On a rumours page?

Personally I think it's nonsense too cantwell has said a few times he loves it at Ibrox.

01 Dec 2023 22:28:48
Yilmaz, dessers and dowell told to find new clubs allegedly.

01 Dec 2023 23:57:11
With the exception of Ross and Jack. All should be told to find new clubs as they are not Rangers standard. Rangers standards are players like. Defenders like Grieg, Jardine, Gough, Butcher. Mids like Gazza, B Fergie, I Fergie, Laudrup. Strikers. McCoist and Hatley.

Instead of buying 9 players. 8 of which are not Rangers standard, we could have bought 2 which where and built on that. The buck stops with the board. NOT Beale. Who gets to spend about 40 mill including wages on players and Lammers who are not built for the Scottish weather and football.

02 Dec 2023 00:01:36
John's source told him about dowell the other day.

02 Dec 2023 02:26:46
Good!

Hopefully Lammers has been told to find a new profession. A tailor's dummy would be a good fit.

My star will be gutted.

02 Dec 2023 05:47:50
If Clement goes out and buys a first team LW and RW I'll be happy all I ask for is two wingers who aren't injury prone and are willing to run at players. No more playing players out of position please.

02 Dec 2023 06:28:16
Raisetheroofe why would i be gutted?

02 Dec 2023 07:04:16
Tbis is good news. Replacing these guys can only strengthen the squad. We will definitely be taking losses on dessers amd yilmaz though. But we will get fees for dowell and sterling so hopefully counter balance that.

02 Dec 2023 07:11:23
What? And Lammers is to stay?

02 Dec 2023 07:43:10
Can't see us taking a hit on Yilmaz Paul.

02 Dec 2023 08:03:57
Also can't see Dowell been told that, maybe he wants it, but can't see an unfit player being told that.

02 Dec 2023 08:16:30
WhiteHorse, players like those used to be Rangers standard, they aren't any more. Rangers couldn't afford the wages of a Gough, Butcher, or Gazza in today's markets, let alone the transfer fees to buy them.

02 Dec 2023 08:35:46
We certainly won't make a profit, that's for sure. Think we will struggle to get the 3.5 mill back. He's done absolutely nothing and can't move a rapidly declining barisic from left back.

02 Dec 2023 08:55:21
Yilmaz will get sold for more than 3.5m, Paul.

02 Dec 2023 08:57:11
Where do you get these type of players now, White horse? If only? The two Fergusons, Cooper, McClelland, Butcher, they are something I dream about now, Grieg, Kai, wow, all amazing.

02 Dec 2023 09:15:29
Yilmaz will return to Turkey probably on way less than what we paid. You would need to be crazy to spend more than 3.5m on him. Unfortunately we were the crazy club ?.

02 Dec 2023 09:36:28
We have only paid 3 million so far for yilmaz, I would want that back.

02 Dec 2023 09:41:42
Paying 3.5m for Yilmaz that is a steal baz.

02 Dec 2023 09:54:21
Is dowell not fit? Or just not playing? Scored v airdrie for b team last week.

02 Dec 2023 10:04:54
It was a bit tongue and cheek, My star. Also, it was just a subtle, and friendly dig, at you waxing lyrical about all 3, and how much of a success each would be. At least your consistent mate. ?.

02 Dec 2023 10:17:46
White horse, on your original post, I said (often) . we should have been buying maybe 2 QUALITY players every transfer window AFTER we won the league. Build up over a couple of years shd we would / #should have a full hew squad, team by now. Unfortunately it looks like we need another clear out, wtf is going on.?

02 Dec 2023 10:33:16
Raisetheroofe Yilmaz is a very good footballer same with Dowell, i only said what i seen with the games Dessers played in the conference, only time I've seen him and i was impressed with him.

02 Dec 2023 11:20:09
Let's be honest here My star, you waxed lyrical about all 3 of them and how much of a success they would be. You done the same with Cifuentes and that just won't happen. Then there is Cantwell who I can't see being here much longer. Then there was Sands who was going to make it, but when he left, you stated he would have a very good career elsewhere, and just like the rest, you were wrong.

It's not the fact you were wrong mate, as we can all get stuff wrong (i get stuff wrong all the time), it's the way you kinda belittle posters who raise concerns about all those mentioned, by acting a wee bit more superior than them because you have played the game, and us mere mortals, haven't!

I really like you as a poster mate, and I really enjoy our wee interactions on here, but sometimes you do give it the big un because of your playing past.

Feel free to list my annoying habits mate (there are a few), I am open to criticism anytime. ?.

02 Dec 2023 11:27:31
How could paying 3.5 for yilmaz be a steal? he's barely kicked a ball for us. Hence him on way out in jan.

02 Dec 2023 11:31:36
My star, yet to see anything at all from yilmaz that will make us a profit. can't defend, yes looks decent going forward t times but when he gets there his crossing ability is quite simply not close to good enough. Only so many times people can say he's quality, he has to step up and show it at some point.

02 Dec 2023 11:36:58
Yilmaz will have no problem finding a club in Turkey and we should make a profit on the sale. Where I see us struggling is with Dessers, Lammers etc., where I can't see us breaking even.
these are not the only players that should go. I really don't see the point in giving Jack a new contract to sit in the stand injured, it is a massive risk, especially if he is still playing internationals.
In reality it is easier to identify the players that we should keep!
Hopefully the new DoF will have identified a few quality targets, he knows what Clement's standards are.
One other thought, why keep Park as Chief Scout, he hasn't exactly brought in any top quality players!

02 Dec 2023 12:09:54
My Star you have said each and every one of these players are quality but none have shined in SPFL (a terrible league according to you) . All average signings and none quality imo. Yilmaz hasn't had a game were he's been better than a 6 out of 10 in the SPFL.

02 Dec 2023 12:19:04
It’s no the 90s we aren’t getting players like Gazza etc again it’s time to accept it and stop living in the past those type of players are what sent us under.

02 Dec 2023 12:22:02
Berkshire I hear Park is leaving soon

We all know a number off players need to move on, however we can only change three players in Europe squad in February, so it still needs to be a balancing act.

We do know yilmaz and dowell can go without affecting Europe, although I’m not in a hurry to move either on.

02 Dec 2023 12:23:33
Clement will need at least 4 windows to rectify this team and make it his own, Two or Three at each window, Provided monies available,
Hopefully he starts with a goal scorer, And any One or Two from the back Four, Midfield okay at the moment with players coming back from injury or even on loan.
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02 Dec 2023 14:08:35
I have no problem with those three going as a first step in a clear out which might take a couple of windows . My question is, should we sell Yilmaz and Barisic this window and use the money to buy a top class, younger left back, and rely on Devine and Fraser as back up until the summer. I say this because Borna is on a free in the summer so worth nothing . If we are going to sell it has to be now .

02 Dec 2023 14:26:20
Raisetheroofe Sands will have a good career would be a shame if he didn't, listen mate i give my opinions on each and every player I've seen, Raisetheroofe see if i didn't have a football past I'd still give my opinion on here, don't understand why that makes a difference, why would i mention anything bad about you? am the same enjoy our interactions, obviously you can't see Cifuentes doing well at Rangers mate, here is a thing about my football past, i was also a midfielder and played a few seasons in the epl, but truthfully and in my own opinion the Cifuentes I've seen play on many occasion was a better player than me.

02 Dec 2023 15:00:27
When we first got linked with Cifuentes i thought no chance, he has only been in our country months, he definitely gets more time from me.

Super we do play in a poor league you think different I'm cool with that, i believe we sell Yilmaz for more than what we payed very fine footballer.

02 Dec 2023 15:33:39
No I'm just wondering why these so called quality players don't shine in a poor league, My Star. Surely these guys would be strolling it in Scotland?

02 Dec 2023 15:34:59
Well said raisetheroof.

02 Dec 2023 15:46:18
Maybe it's that poor a league they can't do their stuff super, we can see that with apart from Rangers every other Scottish clubs performances in Europe.

02 Dec 2023 16:25:44
Great post the kilted frog am fed up hearing the rangers class rubbish as there is no such thing anymore as no one bar butland (maybe) could be in the bracket in our full team.

02 Dec 2023 16:27:22
My star, I do get where roofe is coming from as you do come across that way that you think your opinion is mighty than others, but I still love you mate.

02 Dec 2023 16:28:27
Super cooper, are you saying our league is good like better players than those mentioned on here have been poor in our league? Scottish football is rotten only reason I watch it is because I am a rangers fan.

02 Dec 2023 17:00:06
Not my intention storm.

02 Dec 2023 18:26:09
No probs mate I wasn’t digging you out as I live reading your posts. There is someone a hell of a lot worse than you in that matter anyway.

02 Dec 2023 19:42:42
The players mentioned in the original post would cost in excess of 200 million in this day and age. Get a grip.

02 Dec 2023 19:43:24
P.s we will never see the likes again at the famous, unfortunately.

02 Dec 2023 19:55:03
Sorry 2nd post.

02 Dec 2023 21:48:41
Just hope " another club " isn`t in the back of the net or Dessers will never find it.

02 Dec 2023 23:37:03
My star I can believe it.

Wouldn't be fair but when you think if pc likes a more traditional 433 or with wingers then dowell struggles to play.

Did he not have similar problems at Norwich.

03 Dec 2023 08:04:51
You can believe what gofor?

03 Dec 2023 10:41:04
I've stuck up for Lammers mostly but I can see why people can't take to him, even if he's being played out of position but surely people can see heat Cifuentes is a good buy at the price, in a new continent, had an injury and still early, there's a lot better players who struggled to settle initially and went on to be big players for us, he's also been brought in by a manager who was subsequently sacked so it can be unnerving. Not saying his performances have been stellar but he's not really had a run yet.

01 Dec 2023 22:09:55
Rumour is that to a Dowell, Yilmaz and Dessers have been told to find new clubs in the January window.