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29 Apr 2024 16:40:32
Had it confirmed today that we are paying Silva his full £80k a week salary. Reason being there is no loan fee being paid to Wolves. Equivalent of paying 50% £40k a week and £1m loan fee. Do we think he’s been worth it?


1.) 29 Apr 2024 16:49:29
I am sorry but I don’t believe it one bit and he ain’t worth it if we were paying 10% of his wages.

2.) 29 Apr 2024 16:51:30
There is absolutely no way, fee or no fee, we are paying anyone 80,000 a week. None whatsoever.

Also, silva is on about half of that. He gets around 43k a week.

3.) 29 Apr 2024 16:53:37
Borna. 100% we r not paying his full salary.

4.) 29 Apr 2024 17:04:24
Silvia’s weekly wage at Wolves is £40,000 p/ w which includes a £10,000 appearance fee, a £15,000 goal bonus and a £2,000 unused substitute fee. The player is under contract until the summer of 2026 and Wolves have the option of another year.
On that basis he gets a basic of 30k which is what we will be paying. No he hasn’t been value for money but there’s still time for him to grab some important goals and assists to change that.

5.) 29 Apr 2024 17:07:03
80k a week for half a season is £2m but we couldn’t find £3m for Shankland? Plus wages of course.

6.) 29 Apr 2024 17:09:06
I also can't see us paying silva 80k a week and totally apologise if i'm wrong ?.

7.) 29 Apr 2024 17:50:35
He's not worth the wages i'd keep the boy Cortes if we can he looked decent and hopefully stays injury free.

8.) 29 Apr 2024 18:02:28
Ranger I understand we r paying around 27 for silva.

9.) 29 Apr 2024 18:19:17
If true we've been duped.

10.) 29 Apr 2024 18:40:27
I'm sorry, but there's no chance we're paying that type of money.

11.) 29 Apr 2024 19:05:04
Confirmed by who exactly.

12.) 29 Apr 2024 19:24:27
Wouldn’t pay silva £30 a week useless.

13.) 29 Apr 2024 19:24:42
A quick check shows he is paid 40k a week at wolves so borna whoever is telling you that is pulling your leg.

14.) 29 Apr 2024 19:53:22
He should be paying us for getting a game. Awful footballer and a cheat.

15.) 30 Apr 2024 01:54:20
He must be getting a dive bonus on top of his basic pay to be hitting 80k a week.

16.) 30 Apr 2024 14:29:01
GC1872- Benes HSV Hamburg has impressive stats.



16 Jan 2024 20:15:19
We have knocked back a bid from top 4 championship club for Cantwell circa £6m. Negotiations with Yilmaz to Galatasaray are progressing as we are looking for £500k up front loan fee and around £5m in summer with full wages paid.


1.) 16 Jan 2024 21:12:13
Why would a championship club pay £6m for Cantwell when we would gladly sell for half that? I’m going to call this as made up nonsense. And £5m for Yilmaz is fantasy. We are rangers. We sell for a loss and announce it as ‘undisclosed. ’ It’s what we do.

2.) 16 Jan 2024 21:24:11
I actually think £6m for Cantwell would be good.

3.) 16 Jan 2024 21:54:11
John said we had a bid knocked back for cantwell didn't say how much think he mentioned 3 other players.

4.) 16 Jan 2024 22:03:20
Gooner - aye very good. Instead of rubbishing another poster, tell us, in your expert, informed opinion, why would rangers accept £3m for Cantwell? And why wouldn't we get £5m for Yilmaz?

Good positive post.

5.) 16 Jan 2024 22:03:48
I can't comment on the Cantrell rumour but I am hearing different from Istanbul on Yilmaz.

6.) 16 Jan 2024 22:06:43
Rangers gooner were not going to sell. cantwell for 3 mill. that's for sure.

7.) 16 Jan 2024 22:10:40
Glasgowrangersgooner! How do you know we would gladly do anything!? Totally uncalled for!

8.) 16 Jan 2024 22:12:50
I think £6m is a fair price on cantwell I’d take £5m minimum. I’d expect no more than £7m so £6m is about right.
And I’d sell not a doubt about that.
Gladly sell him n bring Hagi back £6m up and probably a better player in team battling with Lawrence.

Yilmaz likely to be € euros.
€5m in summer minus the €500k loan fee would be fair aswell imo and of course they pay the wages they’re going to have the player and they have the money.

9.) 16 Jan 2024 22:14:53
That is great money for Cantwell. take it.

10.) 16 Jan 2024 22:19:47
Cantwell is worth £6m in English leagues money pots.

11.) 16 Jan 2024 22:21:30
I'd keep Cantwell, if he plays well in euro league, value goes up.

12.) 16 Jan 2024 22:21:40
If we have knocked back £6m for Cantwell (aka pretty boy), then someone needs the sack!

We got him on a free! So no-one in England saw his potential at the time?

Absolute fantasy!

13.) 16 Jan 2024 22:22:20
Hagi would only be battling Lawrence for his spot on the treatment table!

14.) 16 Jan 2024 22:37:26
No idea what you're on gooner. But pretty poor chat.

More generally, I think the question as to whether we'd sell Cantwell is an interesting one. He's probably one of our more sellable assets, and I'm inclined to think we'd want at least £10m given his contract duration And profile. But then again, I'm not sure he's worth that to us or any EFL team. He can flatter to decieve A bit at times, but given the additions I think we need elsewhere I'd keep him till the end of the season at least.

15.) 16 Jan 2024 22:42:34
Unless Cantwell has something in his contract giving him a % of any fee, I'd bite their hands off for 6 mill.

16.) 16 Jan 2024 22:43:28
If we genuinely have had a 6m bid for Cantwell we should be seriously considering it. That along with 4m say for Yilmaz would be good cash for Clement to buy x2/ 3 players of his own, which he thoroughly deserves.

17.) 16 Jan 2024 22:48:14
Bringing hagi back would solve nothing.

18.) 16 Jan 2024 22:50:27
There is a lot of stupid hate directed towards our players at the moment saying stuff like would be luck to get 3 million for canrtwell but still expect us to go out and spen crazy money on replacements 6 million is not enough for Cantwell he frustrates sometimes yes but he’s under contract and we got 6 for aribo

Keep talking down fees for our starters be careful what you wish for

Are these people really rangers fans.

19.) 16 Jan 2024 22:53:44
Hagi wasnt good enough, why would we bring him back, he's currently not good enough for a pretty poor team in spain, hagi is not the answer.

20.) 16 Jan 2024 23:04:34
When Cantwell wasn't in the team, he was thought more of. He's a bit of a rough diamond but we've got to keep our better players and build around them.

21.) 16 Jan 2024 23:06:40
What ever you think of Cantwell he’s better that hagi and fitter than both him and Lawrence I wouldn’t sell at the moment 6m or no 6m we have hardly any depth atm so unless he can be replaced before he leaves then it’s a definite no for me! And by the way everyone on here was loving him last season he’ll come good again and we might get double figure millions ??‍♂️.

22.) 16 Jan 2024 23:35:10
Have to agree Copland I don’t think hagi is anywhere good enough and if it wasn’t for his famous dad I’m not sure his career would be at the level it currently is - like him, can be good, tries hard but just not seeing it - hope I’m wrong if he does come back ??????.

23.) 16 Jan 2024 23:57:42
Stevie we are trying to sign a better standard of player hopefully, Hagi not the answer and can't see him in future plans, your opinion of course, if 6 million was bid for Cantwell I’d sell.

24.) 17 Jan 2024 01:20:19
I think Hagi would be better off staying in spain just now, as he to be fair though have we ever given Ianis a consistent run as a CAM, not really, and that is his main position, we played him mainly on the RW and occasionally as a LW and CAM, he does not have the pace to play on the wing, but he can create from the CAM position and the least we can do when he returns is give him a go in that position, no doubt he will score some good goals and contribute double figures in assists.
has scored some nice goals for romania and in the copa del rey, lad had a nasty injury, many players never recover from.
Remeber how good Durrant, Rozental, Mols were before there bad injuries, but never hit the same from again, hopefully Hagi does recover fully and can be utiltised properly by us next season.
The loan was part of his recovery, he is progressing well.
takes time to come back from and injury like that and remeber they carved his leg up as well during the surgery, literally opened one side of his thigh for the surgery, there is psychological damage to recover from as well as the physical recovery, Beale was right not to bring him back too early, another bad injury on the same leg would have potentially ended his career at 24, he still has 2 years left on his contract once he returns in the summer, i think if he has fully recovered and hit peak fitness, PC can get the best out of him and actually play him as a CAM.

25.) 17 Jan 2024 01:56:47
If we can get 7-8 mill for Cantwell, that is good business for us, we paid just over 1 mill for Todd, and while we have seen some good performances mainly under beale when he was scoring some good goals,
he has not hit that from again, perhaps a move to the Championship might be best for him, could be more suitable for his family as well with new baby born recently.
Unfortunately he is not the 20mill player he was with Norwich in the EPL.

Regards Yilmaz if we can get say 6 mill up front with add ons that get us nearer the 10 mill mark or a loan to buy with a simliar deal and it's a move he would be happy with then we have to realistically
consider that option as well.
Providing we have a decent quality LB option on loan, like Jarasek, we can work on a permanent LB deal in the summer, perhaps with one of the south american lads Koppen is keeping tabs on.

Both deals would give PC a decent start up transfer chest to bring some good quality up and coming young players like, Manhoef and Dujanovic in, say we pay 3 mill for each, and get Jurasek on laon with Silva, already in i would be happy with those 4 players for the winter window.

once Afcons done Sima is back and eventually Danilo will be fit again to give us more fire power up front.

Goal scoring wingers is what we need more than another CF right now.

26.) 17 Jan 2024 02:08:20
I like cantwell not been his best lately but either was John Lundstram a few month back now look how well he is playing.

27.) 17 Jan 2024 06:48:11
what makes me curious though is how can we sell a player for say 6M and then think we can bring it 1 or 2 players who will make us better, there aren't many players out there valued at 1-2M who are better than what we have.

28.) 17 Jan 2024 07:08:26
Cantwell will be gone in the summer. He's in the team to provide goals and assists to the team which he simply isn't doing.

29.) 17 Jan 2024 07:38:42
Would take the £ all day for cantwell he thinks he’s better then what he is .
Pity about Dowell thought he would do a turn .

30.) 17 Jan 2024 08:14:28
Lads are don’t think yous are understanding my point here.
We need to prioritise certain positions, for me we need a striker, a centre mid, a centre half and possibly a winger (silva and Matondo can play right wing and left, sima, wright, mccausland, so not sure a winger is a must.
Centre mid
Centre half.

Move on Davies, ridvan, cantwell.

We can buy these positions.
Or loan them wbu her et gaffer decides.

We have Hagi who is our player. The Spanish would happily cut the deal short I believe z
He will do until the summer when he can then be moved on.
Hagi Lawrence silva even Danilo can all play in the 10 when fit, I don’t believe signing a new 10 is top priority.
So u bring back Hagi and sign those 3 positions I’ve mentioned and in the summer u move more on, likely Hagi will be one of them.
I believe Hagi is better than cantwell and will do a job until summer if it means spending the money in a striker mf and ch. then isn’t it worth having Hagi back instead of signing a 10 when we have say 3/ 4 in the squad inc Hagi?

31.) 17 Jan 2024 09:11:12
Pointless selling Yilmaz for 4m stevie not a chance can we replace him for that fee.

32.) 17 Jan 2024 09:11:45
Can't see Hagi playing for Rangers again mate.

33.) 17 Jan 2024 09:25:26
There is no way in this world we have turned down £6m for Cantwell. Personally I would snap your hand off if offered that. Hagi is a far better Number 10 than Cantwell will ever be.

34.) 17 Jan 2024 09:28:02
A few hard reads again the day.

Blaming Cantwell for lack of goals/ assists when we have the strikers we have currently is just unfair. You can lay the ball on a plate for the likes of Dessers, Danilo and Sima and they still miss lots of chances.

People want to sell Cantwell and bring in better players for less money? not sure if you know this but better players cost more money.

Talk of Hagi again on here. lord give me strength, Hagi must have cast a spell on a few fans as he had a couple decent performances way way back. Nice lad but definitely not a Rangers standard.
Hagi better than Cantwell? give up the drink lad.

Ridvan is a weird one as i'd rather have him than Borna playing and people are now wanting to sell Ridvan for a loss when he is now finding his feet at the club. Thank god yous aren't involved in any actual decisions at the club.

the main and sole target for us this window must be a striker that can actually score goals. and not 1 goal out of 20 attempts .

35.) 17 Jan 2024 09:28:46
He was deemed by mostly all of us the most talented player we've signed for ages with a football brain steps ahead of him teammates, now it's a purge to get todd cantwell out the door, not for me unless it's a massive bid that we can't turn down ? Cantwell is a talented footballer of that there's no doubt and i actually saw good link up play with him and silva last night, to encourage me that that could well be a good partnership ?I know this season so far cantwell hasn't reached the heights of the last few months of last season but the talent is there guys and undoubtedly he'll produce it again ?Form is temporary, class is permanent ? Our supporters are far too quick when they get a target they just want them shunted out the door, that's not how football works ?I think clement can/ will get the best out of cantwell again, so try and get off the guy's back and get behind him and i'm sure his form will return ? Some on here with certain players it's all sugar or s***e with nothing in-between, like i said that's not how football works ?.

36.) 17 Jan 2024 09:30:42
Cantwell was the best thing since sliced bread now he's a hopeless doughball that we need to get shot of straight away ?Fickle or what ?.

37.) 17 Jan 2024 09:30:54
We could easily improve our squad with 6mil for cantwell. Could get a striker and a winger for 6mil and play silva where cantwell plays. masive upgrade.

38.) 17 Jan 2024 09:40:46
Stevie we would need to pay to bring hagi back as there is no recall option and he isn’t good enough so I don’t think that will happen.

39.) 17 Jan 2024 10:06:28
Some of the comments on here are awful, consistently knocking down our players. Plus the lack of knowledge in football is worrying. You don’t sell players mid season that are 1st team players unless offer is ridiculous. £6m, whether offered or not, is not ridiculous offer. The damage that does to the squad, the lack of time to replace and then the risk of signing a player from another league and trying to bed them into the Scottish game. Cantwell goes nowhere unless someone offers something north of £8-10m and rangers have a ready replacement.

40.) 17 Jan 2024 10:16:48
I Think when sima comes back PC will bench cantwell sirwalter. silva will play instead of cantwell. You quite rightly said that cantwell is out of form and he has ben all season, its half way through the season, any idea when he will get in form?

41.) 17 Jan 2024 10:22:07
We’ve already let one player go from the Euro squad, we are only allowed to change 3, and NEED to add a left back to it. So that's at minimum one of the changes done if you (for arguments sake) replace Lammers with Ridvan. We aren't going to be in a hurry to sell anyone else that's currently registered to play europa league. To be honest anyone in that squad is likely being kept til the summer to maximise value. We only need to look at Bassey to see what a couple of good games and a decent run does to a player’s value. If someone comes and offers 10m for Cantwell sure, you take it. But 6m doesn't give us the means to pad the squad out with reliable additions at the minute.

42.) 17 Jan 2024 10:24:57
I personally don't think cantwell creates enough chances for the team, he can be so talented but he's flattered to deceive in 80% of the games so far and that's me probably being kind, i'd have a fully fit Lawrence before cantwell any day of the week he's far more direct but the fitness is the conundrum, no denying cantwell has talent we just need to get him to do it on a regular basis, he's far too deep for me, also stupid fouls and theatrics really gets on my throat, him an big dessers are really bad for not playing the whistle if they don't get a foul. they can just stop and throw up the arms, that too needs addressing, big Goldson has been guilty of this in the past too.

43.) 17 Jan 2024 10:44:33
Any of the top 4 ATM in championship don't have 6m to pay for Cantwell and Yilmaz should be kept until the summer. His value won't diminish imo he's a better option than BB.

44.) 17 Jan 2024 10:45:43
Sorry folks but no one is seriously telling me that they think 6mil is cheap for cantwell. C'mon that's incredible money for him. 10mil you're having a laugh mate. let's get real here. Mate PC would bite your hand off for 6mil. He'd win us the league if he could spend that sort of cash this window. Its one thing saying some of the stick our players get from our owns fans is awful but i'll tell you what mate, some of the loyalty shown from our fans that defend bang average players who fail to perform constantly and are on massive money is cringey. This guy hasn't turned up all season, hasn't laid a glove on Celtic and you's want more than 6mil. C'mon mate. let's be real here.

45.) 17 Jan 2024 10:53:16
I’m not here championing Hagi, I’m saying is he not a better option than cantwell if u consider throwing £6m in the pot just for swapping them?
That’s all I’m saying.
Surely that’s better for the team squad and club?

Someone said we need to pay to bring him back?
I believe it was €1m for season so £6m -€500k is still about £5.6m in the pocket if we sell cantwell. No brainier for me.
The Spanish aren’t really want to keep him so I think we could even negotiate a better deal in our favour.

46.) 17 Jan 2024 11:34:11
Take £3m for Cantwell? put your mummy on we need word with her .

47.) 17 Jan 2024 12:09:00
Coops did you copy and paste that post of yours because it’s the same word for word other than the name of the player what you said about kent time after time.
Cantwell may come good but he is not doing it at the moment and the same reason why Norwich let him go.

48.) 17 Jan 2024 12:11:06
We pay Cantwell 40k a week to provide goals and assists. He's meant to be a game changer on that wage.

49.) 17 Jan 2024 12:35:22
Kurt you’re saying £6m and we’d bite your hand off. Show me how he’s not worth that or more? Countless bang average players in championship and prem are going for a lot more. Some of the sales going around are stupid money. And those players you talk about are SPL standard, and top of the bag standard for this league. bang average league. You’re the type of fan wanting 25 top players that we can’t keep happy and loyal. Cantwell is one of the best in this league, been welll off his best this year I’d agree but in this league and most of Europa league games he’s a good standard of player.

50.) 17 Jan 2024 13:08:54
Pretty sure we ain`t paying Cantwell £40k a week, in fact I would be surprised if we are paying anybody that type of money. I really like him as a player but again I would be surprised if we wouldn`t accept £6million for him, maybe its just because we would struggle to replace him this window. As for Yilmaz, if we are not desperate to get rid of him, and it looks like we`re not, why would we accept a loan deal, with no money until the summer, this window . Clubs like Verona and particularly Galatasaray have money so if the want him, pay the money and buy him or get lost.

51.) 17 Jan 2024 13:21:53
Do The Bouncy, saying Hagi is miles better than Cantwell is bizarre. You’ve clearly not seen Hagi playing in Spain. On the bench most weeks. The boy is struggling, massively. Apparently confidence is extremely low. Missing 18 months of football has played a big part in his development. He’ll be one that leaves in the summer. Hopefully someone will be willing to pay the £3m we bought him for.

52.) 17 Jan 2024 13:24:19
Think one of the euro spots may go to big balogun, or someone drops out? but who?

53.) 17 Jan 2024 14:23:27
Fork, likely euro spot will go to a goalkeeper, possibly Jon McLaughlin.

54.) 17 Jan 2024 14:27:12
Stevie we don’t always get the full 6 million upfront also player gets % agent gets % it’s not as easy as you think. I 100% do not want to pay for a player that is still ours just my w.

55.) 17 Jan 2024 14:50:22
Sollof, type of fan? what lol? 25 top players, I'd settle for 11 top players just nOw mate?. You just have to watch cantwell play to know that he is not worth 6mil.

56.) 17 Jan 2024 15:43:21
Three to drop out of the Euro squad, Lammers, obviously, Danilo because he won`t be fit to play again this season and Davies. That will allow Balogun and Silva as replacements and one free spot either for another new signing or someone like Yilmaz if he`s still here. Here`s hoping Roofe can get fit enough to at least do a Betis and come off the bench and make an impact.

57.) 17 Jan 2024 16:54:15
There are a number of other players that we should be looking to move on before Cantwell. Thankfully a number of them will be gone when their contacts end this summer however getting rid of others, most notable the injury prone mediocre players like Souttar will be significantly more difficult!
Hopefully we will now see a better quality of player signed with the new management team in place and Oark well and truly gone.

58.) 17 Jan 2024 17:46:07
That Bristol city left side boy did really well v WHU apparently, would they accept another McCrorie and a couple of £m?

59.) 17 Jan 2024 18:26:12
In my opinion hagi is better than anyone we have in his position. Our attacking players a rotten right now.

60.) 17 Jan 2024 22:44:44
Highland bear ??????well said Cantwell still better than most of our midfield yet people want him gone madness

Mystar remind me how much was barisic again? You can find the players if you know what your doing and have a bit of luck too don’t need money all the time.

61.) 17 Jan 2024 23:37:15
Believe barasic was £1.8m British pounds.

62.) 17 Jan 2024 23:38:42
Hagi is the best no10 we have on our books and he’s in Spain.
Terrible management by Beale. Sign lammers for nearly £4m and loan Hagi out for £1m.
£3m plus lammers wages down the drain.



12 Sep 2023 20:27:56
Looking likely Yilmaz will move back to Turkey on loan, that’s why he’s left out of the Euro squad.


1.) 12 Sep 2023 21:02:21
Hopefully a loan with obligation to buy and whoever he goes to pay his full wage at least.

2.) 12 Sep 2023 21:35:48
The two favourites to sign him are Besiktas, (his previous club), who want him on Local and Galatasaray who earlier in the summer were keen on a permanent transfer but I understand that their valuation was well below ours.

Fernabahce were rumoured to have an interest but what I am hearing from Istanbul is that they are not currently looking for a left back.

3.) 12 Sep 2023 22:04:14
He’s left out because a numbers game and he’s always injured.

4.) 13 Sep 2023 01:44:16
Berkshire say it like it is

We overpaid again.

5.) 13 Sep 2023 04:58:52
One half decent match in his time here and we paid at least double what we paid for Barasic. gers need to realise they were played here and are not getting anywhere near what they paid for Yilmaz.

6.) 13 Sep 2023 06:45:47
Seriously looks like the guys heart and head do not lie at Ibrox - time for him to move on and for us to get a true defensive solid left back - hope Devine gets a run at that side of park in the interim as he has never let us down when covering for Tavernier.

7.) 13 Sep 2023 06:58:47
Was always a strange one signing a young lad from Turkey for that fee, Maybe because of our past history with Tugay we felt that this would work, historically not that many Turkish players have settled in British football, they tend to do well in either their own country or Germany which has a huge Turkish community.
And he is young as well, sounds like he has never truly settled here.

8.) 13 Sep 2023 07:43:46
Aye makes sense 1 LB tae January f##k me are the banter years back getting a bit of a joke.

9.) 13 Sep 2023 07:47:16
Hes 4ft tall we literally replaced Bassey with him ?.

10.) 13 Sep 2023 08:23:34
Yilmaz ain’t good enough!

11.) 13 Sep 2023 09:53:12
He's good enough to play for turkey at 18 and any top side in turkey would like him signed by he's no good.

12.) 13 Sep 2023 10:05:03
How do you know yately he has hardly played to come to that conclusion.

13.) 13 Sep 2023 10:29:29
Looks like we’ll never know, I feel sorry for the lad, he did’nt set the transfer fee we overpaid, but the top Turkish sides see something in him, if rumours are to be believed.

14.) 13 Sep 2023 12:05:56
Wet cardboard let him go.

15.) 13 Sep 2023 12:26:15
All of you are on here worshipping the ground John27 walks on but you lay no attention to what he’s said. Have you not seen his posts when it comes to Yilmaz? He is declaring himself unfit to play.

If this is the type of player h is we need to move him on. Rangers play twice a week and we need guys who are fit an available.

16.) 13 Sep 2023 12:52:06
Once again we have overlooked homegrown talent in favour of signing players like Yilmaz. We make the same mistake every transfer window. Needs changed along with our useless manager ????.

17.) 13 Sep 2023 13:08:10
If Yilmaz is declaring himself unfit then he needs sold.

18.) 13 Sep 2023 13:39:27
Yilmaz who doesn't want to play for us and Barasic who rips his tights - can't play against Celtic but ok for country - both need punted ASAP and play our own - get Davies out there or better still Devine - we need solid back four with no injury greeting face overpaid superstars dictating to us!

19.) 13 Sep 2023 13:46:51
It was a mistake signing the boy unless we are going to play in a system that suits him . He is a wing back more used to playing with a back three. If we really want to bring out the best in him we should try it, as it would also suit, Tav, Souttar and Davies and allow us to play with two strikers without leaving gaps in the wide areas. If we are not ready to make that change then the boy should be sold, not loaned and certainly not when the window is shut and we can`t get a replacement. We seem to love to shoot ourselves in the foot and leave ourselves short in key positions, last season it was centre back and this season its left back. Devine looked okay last season but Sterling really struggled getting forward last Sunday.

20.) 13 Sep 2023 13:58:29
If this is true, and Yilmaz is declaring himself unfit to play, then he needs moved on. Add this to his lb colleague Barisic soiling himself when the heat is on, that's some state our lb area is in.

For all the abuse Tav gets on here, and elsewhere, that's one guy who would never refuse to play, or sh#t the bed during a game. Work that one out.

21.) 13 Sep 2023 14:22:21
A stronger manager would've moved Tavernier further up the pitch or moved him on, years ago. His deficiencies in defence cause the team far more problems, than what his scoring outlay does. The proof is in the lack of trophy success for the team. Ricksen, Bale, TAA are all other examples of a manager recognising that.
For a Rangers captain to win just 2 trophies in 8 years is embarrassing, for him to be inducted into the prestigious Hall Of Fame is insulting to the former Rangers greats of the past and to the players who have missed out. Tavernier couldn't lace Gary Stevens boots as a full back, or shine his winners medal collection.


22.) 13 Sep 2023 14:31:19
Gazgers231 obviously not getting the gist of my post. Facts! ??.

23.) 13 Sep 2023 15:28:28
No I do lol and I don’t disagree with the fact our LB area is horrendous. We could have had Josh Doig playing here but chose to splash out on Yilmaz. Shocking business.

Tav may never refuse too play for us but it doesn’t change the fact he is a serial loser and the stick he gets is justified IMO ????.

24.) 13 Sep 2023 15:30:58
The manager might use someone at left back who has no business playing at left back because he can't however they may have a bit more dig than the Turkish sicknote or the dopey lettuce Barasic, how long have our left backs lost us games, since Bassey left?

25.) 13 Sep 2023 15:46:54
Personally thought Yilmaz all right, not great, just all right. If he goes, we'll we're light on left sided backs anyway and a mgr who couldn't pick nose. Do we have reliable left back in youth or any back up?

26.) 13 Sep 2023 15:51:33
Gazgers - yeh the lack of trophies is down to 1 player.

Get a grip.

Embarrassing post.

27.) 13 Sep 2023 17:47:00
No athole is he lack or trophies is down to the full team and setup we currently have however Tavernier is our captain and here are the stats under his leadership.

Tavernier has been part of a Rangers team that has conceded 5 trebles to Celtic! The Celtic team under Stein only won 1 treble in their 9iar years. That Rangers team also had success in Europe, reaching 2 finals. Only 2 years ago the Rangers team reached a European final, but has failed badly domestically. That cannot be ignored. Tavernier has becomes a liability. His indiscipline to roam up the park causes many problems for our defence. He doesn't play like a defender, but defends like an attacker.

But I guess that doesn't suit your narrative. ???.

28.) 13 Sep 2023 18:08:07
I wouldn't necessarily say that we overpaid for Yilmaz. I'm pretty sure that he was valued at over €5m when we signed him although I doubt we paid that much for him and I doubt he is worth that now. He is only 22 years of age and was with Besiktas since his youth representing Turkey at International Level at all age groups from under 16 and I am pretty sure that this includes at full International Level.

I also know that he is well thought of in Turkey and as I have mentioned, Besiktas would gladly have him back as did Fernabahce early in the Summer and I am told that Galatasary also wanted him.
While he is only circa 5ft 7, I don't see why this is a problem, there are a number of quality players that are not tall.

Perhaps this was just another acquisition with no thought to anything other than a quick onward sale and a fat profit rather than any thought being given as to whether we needed a left back or a left back with Yilmaz skill set.
In any event it doesn't look like he fits into Beale's game plan, (whatever that is), so it is better for everyone if he is allowed to leave. Whether we will recoup all of our original outlay is debatable and could Davies fit in at left back?

29.) 13 Sep 2023 18:18:40
Tavernier is major part of rangers issue. Totally agree.

30.) 13 Sep 2023 18:42:27
I don't think it's a case of not good enough.

Injuries haven't helped also needs a manage to play him also think he's more of a wingback for a 3 at back and him playing wide left of the middle 5.

31.) 13 Sep 2023 18:42:48
Again we but square pegs for round holes ??.

32.) 13 Sep 2023 18:43:12
Would we have liked a back 4 of Hickey or Ramsay, Porteous, McKenna or Soutar and Doig?
We know now Kevin Thomson advised the club to cough up £450k for Porteous and what will he fetch soon on the market?

We could have had the other Soutar too before Stoke did and the likes of Liam Lindsay for no money .

Wee tip Dundee Utd have a terrific CB prospect get the scout we have to pop along and watch him . we have a scout aye?

33.) 13 Sep 2023 18:58:23
The problem with Beale is that he needs supermen plus to play full back and quite often full backs as suitable on the left as Long John Silver would have been, right there is where the manager and his 2 pals know nothing about and why he/ they will never be right for us. It's obvious.

If all he had done in the window was shift the wee Turk and sleepy shirker Barasic then sign 2 replacements. Nothing else. We would be in a far better place than we are.

34.) 13 Sep 2023 19:48:43
Gary stevens (fantastic player btw) scored 13 times for Rangers. Tavernier? Hunners not counting the assists. Stevens played in a great Rangers team as well. Did you watch the run to the europa league final? Also not a fan of Devine either. Couldn’t touch Tav or Patterson before he was sold.

35.) 13 Sep 2023 19:53:33
Gazgers231, the general standard of player in the Rangers team was far better back in the Stein times and both teams were on the same financial footing . To blame one player for our lack of trophies is a nonsense.

In all the time Tav has been at Ibrox he has played under duff managers (except Gerrard) who must shoulder a lot of the blame for poor recruitment and organisation. Tav was encouraged by all these managers to get up the pitch and yet only Gerrard set up the team to cover him.

His goals were a major factor in getting us to that Euro final and even domestically when GVB decided to keep both full backs deeper the goals dried up domestically . By the way during the Stein era we went 4 years without a trophy but I don`t remember anybody blaming our captain John Greig, we were desperate for someone to come in and get him others to support him.

36.) 13 Sep 2023 20:11:01
It’s Matondo all over again, can he actually have a sustained run in the team first before we decide to sell or keep, he’s hardly kicked a ball yet, and if it’s true about him refusing games then that’s a different story.

37.) 13 Sep 2023 20:26:59
Wslgers I'll respectfully disagree with you on that. Scottish football has never been as poor as what it is now. Aberdeen finished 3rd last season, nearly 40pts behind Celtic. Even in our 9iar years, we still had decent competition off Aberdeen, Hearts, Dundee United, Hibs, jeez even Motherwell had a good team and Raith Rovers beat Bayern Munich!

Tavernier has been an excellent value for money, but his inability to defend or his indiscipline to roam forward has cost us numerous goals over the years. That is undeniable. The fact he is still with us tells us managers don't fancy him as a player, same as Goldson and Morelos, otherwise they'd have all got their big moves years ago. Anyway, it's only an opinion.

38.) 14 Sep 2023 09:07:16
“Tavernier has been an excellent value for money, but his inability to defend or his indiscipline to roam forward has cost us numerous goals over the years. ” - They goals they create and score have been a major asset of ours for years. If you need evidence of that look at how outstanding Tavernier was when he captained us to the final of a Europa League as the competitions top scorer.

Tavernier and Barisic score and create about 30 goals a season. Do they cost us 30 goals a season? Not even close. They do a lot more good for this Rangers team than bad.

If you put two more defensive full-backs in their place would they still make mistake? Yes. Would they ever be able to make up for those mistakes by running from the halfway line and slotting the ball in top corner, or scoring a winner away to Servette to get us in to the Europa League groups? No.

39.) 14 Sep 2023 11:19:59
Verdant I guess it's about standards. Some of our support have come to accept mediocrity, that others will never accept.

40.) 14 Sep 2023 22:53:30
Beale your changing your tune a player has every right to declare himself unfit who would know Thier own body better than them ?

Your defending him then saying get him out laughable

What if he is just finding his feet and we have wrong manager look at difference in matondo to last year maybe yilmaz can turn it around he's a young boy leaving his country for first time give him a chance.

41.) 15 Sep 2023 00:48:39
It is quite clear that our standards have dropped and the reasons are fairly clear for those of us that have been around for a while. Unfortunately I don't see them recovering any time soon unless we are extremely lucky or fundamentally change the way we scout players and widen the net considerably.
The benefit we had in the Souness Era was Souness and his network of contacts allied to his reputation and of course, from day one he was given solid backing. He was also fortunate that English were banned from European competitions.
Walter Smith but up a strong reputation working with Souness and gained the respect of International players and again had strong backing as did Advocaat who was a major coup at the time.
We have neither replaced that quality of player or that quality of manager with the exception of when we secured Gerrard, (which is perhaps for good fortune that good scouting and we initially supported him but failed to build when we were on top.
For me we are now in reverse mode and have been for some time.

42.) 15 Sep 2023 09:27:08
It's not just home grown talent we have overlooked, we have been preoccupied with the lower leagues in England and while we have signed a couple of decent quality players we have inevitable missed out on players that would have improved our team from all over Europe. Perhaps the change of Scouting strategy will help. Perhaps not!



06 Sep 2023 21:09:04
Borna’s agent touting him for a move back to Croatia as their window is still open.


1.) 06 Sep 2023 22:44:05
Dinamo Zagreb I’m hearing, u think this one will happen mate and maybe get a free transfer in to replace him.

2.) 07 Sep 2023 00:28:40
If we don’t then he will sign a pre contract in January and that will be yet another player who has been kept to long and allowed to run down his contract and leave for free.

3.) 07 Sep 2023 06:18:48
If anyone is willing to buy him now, bite their hand off. I'll pack his bags, and I'll make sure to pack plenty pampers for him.
Whatever money we can get for him, I'd use it to pay Beale off and get him out the door too.

4.) 07 Sep 2023 06:56:27
Andy we bought Borna for a couple of million a few years ago and he has more than repaid that. He is in his 30s now and last year of his contract so he has little resale value. It’s not like Kent and Alfredo where we could have made a good few million.

5.) 07 Sep 2023 08:21:54
Might be a good idea to move him on before he goes for nothing. Devine, Yilmaz, Yfeko, even Sterling can all cover the position until January.

6.) 07 Sep 2023 09:26:21
Not a lot we can do if the player wishes to run down his contract. Ee can't force him to move. If I'm honest he doesn't owe us anything. We have had our monies worth out him imo. He will be like Tav, once they're gone we will realise how good they were.

7.) 07 Sep 2023 09:58:09
The Sun say "European club" they weren't sure where Zagreb was they thought somebody had made up a name . But they did know he played for Rangers as it was mentioned in the Express.

8.) 07 Sep 2023 09:59:27
The difference between Barisic and Tav is that Tav has never faked an injury just so he could get off the park to avoid more punishment from the opposition. Barisic is a coward, and although Tav has his defensive frailties, he's never been a s bag on the field, even if he is being turned inside out.

9.) 07 Sep 2023 10:59:27
Old blue eyes thought it was only me that saw it.

10.) 07 Sep 2023 12:36:51
Selling him should have been done before the window shut especially if he won`t sign a new contract. What decent frees are now available? Yilmaz has spent a year showing he is not the answer, Sterling does not give you any attacking threat on that side and with no decent left winger we need it. Yfeko is not a left back. Devine is right footed too but he at least showed that he can cross with his left foot when he filled in. What about Robbie Fraser he creates a lot with his left foot for the B team. He is 21 and we gave him a years extension, so if he`s not going to make it, why did we bother . Devine would be my choice but letting Barisic go at this point makes no sense .

11.) 07 Sep 2023 18:30:43
“ What about Robbie Fraser he creates a lot with his left foot for the B team. He is 21 and we gave him a years extension, so if he`s not going to make it, why did we bother . ”

Fraser shouldn’t have been given that extra year. He's never going to make it with us. This time next year he’ll be gone.

12.) 07 Sep 2023 19:25:08
Thats why I asked the question. He seems prominent in the B team but unlike a lot of the others has never been near the first team. He`s 21 now, so I just couldn`t understand the contract extension.

13.) 09 Sep 2023 13:41:43
Borna will leave at the end of season on a free. Unless a prem team makes a bid January.

14.) 09 Sep 2023 13:43:57
If he's 21 and not in first team squad it's probably too late already ?

I know that sounds insane but it's rangers we should all know the signs by now.



29 Aug 2023 22:06:10
Told today at the training centre that the plans are Harry Souttar will be shown around Ibrox tomorrow. Might mean nothing as we done the same with Tom Davies in January and a move was never finalised. Negotiations still ongoing with Leicester on loan to buy deal.


1.) 30 Aug 2023 05:26:55
Wasn't Hazard shown round.

2.) 30 Aug 2023 05:28:12
Wasn't Hazard shown round the training ground last week?

3.) 30 Aug 2023 06:07:47
Hazard? Give it a rest.

4.) 30 Aug 2023 07:38:09
Great player but we would be a Walking Hazard if we even considered this guy? would keep our doctor in business for many a moon
Our days of past it injured players should be well gone - I HOPE.

5.) 30 Aug 2023 08:47:03
Harry suttar hasn't had of injuries. Blue Floyd if you did your cruciate ligament would you be back within a few days or are you so hard it couldn't happen to you.

6.) 30 Aug 2023 09:01:12
He has had 2 injuries in his career.

7.) 30 Aug 2023 09:03:10
That should have been loads of injuries.

8.) 30 Aug 2023 09:33:43
He was talking about hazzard.

9.) 30 Aug 2023 09:52:42
He was on about hazard not souttar.

10.) 30 Aug 2023 10:00:26
Borna why, it’s a rumour site.

11.) 30 Aug 2023 11:42:42
I was shown around Ibrox but wasn’t signed?.

12.) 30 Aug 2023 12:17:34
Livi - maybe you need to read the text - my play on Hazard was giving it a clue bud - am more than happy to see Souttar come in if at all possible?.

13.) 30 Aug 2023 12:54:36
My apologies mate i read it company wrong sorry. Aye is hazard not retiring anyway.

14.) 30 Aug 2023 13:11:51
Cheers Livi - hope he retires before coming anywhere near Ibrox - we need younger hungry dynamic players with sell on value rather than pension plan seekers?.

15.) 30 Aug 2023 13:11:54
Nearest Hazard got to Ibrox was the Tartan chippy.

16.) 30 Aug 2023 13:17:43
Would appear so livi but his agent has confirmed today they spoke to clubs in sixcountries including a club in Scotland.

17.) 30 Aug 2023 15:22:29
deffo intrest from a scottish team John n he straight knocked back Beckham.

18.) 30 Aug 2023 15:28:23
Loan to buy ??? behave yourself we are not buying souttar they just paid crazy money for him and I would think least they would look for would be around 10 million if they are feeling charitable ? if he is going to us it's simply to keep him playing football for a year.

19.) 30 Aug 2023 17:51:03
It was interest from Six Counties not countries and County Down have the option in front of County Fermanagh - that's Hazards limit these days getbreal guys ??.




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04 Mar 2024 16:25:22
Cortes to go under the knife, likely won’t play for us again.


1.) 04 Mar 2024 18:29:33
Bad news! Hopefully he makes a full recovery and comes back to us on a permanent move for next season.

2.) 04 Mar 2024 18:40:42
This season.

3.) 04 Mar 2024 18:58:43
Why won’t he? At the end of the day we only signed him on loan to defer the fee to the summer. I can’t imagine an unfortunate injury will impact whether we sign him permanently or not.

4.) 04 Mar 2024 19:21:36
Where is this coming from, Borna?

5.) 04 Mar 2024 19:49:37
No obligation to buy davidb1996, only an option to buy, if his injury is bad would we sign him, heartless I know, but would it be good business if he's f.d, personally I'd take him, potential to be really special.

6.) 04 Mar 2024 19:53:59
We’ve an obligation to buy on a 4 year deal. This has been widely published a million times. Keep up.

7.) 04 Mar 2024 20:45:46
Has this been confirmed all i saw was PC saying an opp hadnt been ruled out.

8.) 04 Mar 2024 22:21:30
A know Diomonde was obligation to buy thought Cortez was option to buy.

9.) 04 Mar 2024 22:32:07
Ibrox that is for Diomande.

10.) 04 Mar 2024 22:41:56
Wrong Ibrox, Diomande obligation to buy, Cortes option to buy.

11.) 04 Mar 2024 22:44:02
Keep up, your sarcasm is funny cause you are wrong. ??.

12.) 04 Mar 2024 22:46:55
Diomande 4.3 mill obligation, so in short and to rub your nose in it your wrong??.

13.) 04 Mar 2024 23:50:05
Never said it was an obligation I’m saying had we the funds to do so he’d have been signed permanently in January.

14.) 05 Mar 2024 00:15:52
Correspondence unfortunetly is an "option" to buy, Diomende is an "obligation" pc will know already if he wants the kid next season and on his brief showings I would take the punt. He looks like he loves to take a player on which I think we need.

15.) 05 Mar 2024 02:30:28
No one said you did Davidb, you said " defer to summer" doesn't apply either, we got him on loan. The decision to buy him is secondary to is he good enough, if not and now with a nasty injury, it could be no, if gets out the other side of his injury OK, then he needs further assessment before decision to buy, I'm no PC but I like the guy, would sign him no probs, but it is a business. You don't make an investment without due care, would like a loan extension prob. Hope this explains it bud.

16.) 05 Mar 2024 04:37:40
Ibrox4me. No its not. that's diomande obligation.

17.) 05 Mar 2024 07:50:02
Predictive txt's a nightmare robbielogan? does your nut in.

18.) 05 Mar 2024 08:50:48
PC said Cortez, if he gets head down has a 4 yr contract offer on the table as incentive. Optional, but we are prepared to make perm. His parent club want the deal.

19.) 05 Mar 2024 10:03:16
Exactly Gdog, hope injury is not bad, boy gets back asssed with injury in mind, head down n signs, looks as if he could be a good find. ? and totally correct, all optional, keep up Ibrox. ? kidding bud?.

20.) 05 Mar 2024 10:12:14
Ibrox, it's Diomande that we're obliged to buy.



20 Jan 2024 20:46:18
Sima on his way home, early signs suggest torn thigh muscle which could be a few months out.


1.) 20 Jan 2024 21:05:01
I posted that earlier, but like most of my posts they don't make it onto here.

{Ed033's Note - We had about 20 posts saying sima injured. Can't fill up all the 1st pages with the same post, so repeat posts are deleted.

2.) 20 Jan 2024 23:11:11
How’s about you never post my comments! Do you have favourites Ed?

{Ed033's Note - How about you post something postable like something regarding Rangers or football. Lets not talk about other posters.



13 Jan 2024 08:08:50
With the impending departure of Ridvan, mixed reports of whether we will replace him or use the money elsewhere, for me surely we must replace him. Whilst I’m not his biggest fan, We have 5 months to win the league and for me taking him out the squad makes it weaker. We need to be strengthened if we are to topple them from the east.


1.) 13 Jan 2024 09:30:35
A quality left back will need to be bought to replace Yilmaz.

2.) 13 Jan 2024 10:21:04
I agree BB, the wee Turk is starting to play well in my humble opinion, so unless he wants to leave? I can see no advantage to the squad in him being sold without an additional replacement being bought . But PC knows his players and squad? So I just hope he’s got it right, maybe Beck is coming? But I doubt it.

3.) 13 Jan 2024 10:22:04
If loan deal there will be no money, so why replace him keep until summer if he plays well we could get more.

4.) 13 Jan 2024 10:30:17
Burns, by all accounts we're getting nothing for him this window - if Verona avoid relegation then they have an obligation to buy for 3 million euros in the summer - a deal that makes no sense at all.

5.) 13 Jan 2024 11:54:08
Carrick nope according to the oracle of football on here yilmaz isn’t good enough so better we get rid of him now when we can ?.

6.) 13 Jan 2024 12:53:45
Stormtrooper, would the like of Devine be an answer to that position? Or is the jury still out on him?

7.) 13 Jan 2024 13:15:58
Don`t clubs pay some money up front for loan deals? So it may not be the full amount but we will get something and also know what will be coming in, in the summer . If we go and buy someone we will not be paying the full fee up front either so its about balancing incomings and outgoings . Pretty sure Mr Clement and the board will have it all worked out based on facts, not speculation.

8.) 13 Jan 2024 13:45:04
Gers, rangers are receiving €500 k loan deal, for yilmaz 3 million obligation if not relegated and 20% sell on

Good business covers our lay out whom the vast maja o ritzy wanted shot off three weeks b4 Xmas

Correct Wsl. Often it’s 40% firstayment with 30 payments there after.

9.) 13 Jan 2024 14:39:10
That’s a good deal to me John.
Especially the sell on clause.

John how much have we paid for Yimaz so far and if the transfer goes thru how much will he have cost us in fees in total ie sell on etc?

10.) 13 Jan 2024 18:00:59
We paid circa 3 million euros, my info he has achieved no addons. With possible exception of champions league group stage last season

Not made enough rangers appearances or Turkey competitive appearance or won spfl

I’m not sure if we will need to pay a sell on based on the three million we hopefully get for him Stevie.



13 Nov 2023 19:35:26
Told Clement shares the same opinion as Waller on Tav and Jack that they are carrying too much muscle mass on top half of body. He also believes Lundstram is one of the fittest players he’s worked ever worked with.


1.) 13 Nov 2023 21:57:34
Know a few coaches at the club and they have said that PC is far from happy with the conditioning of a lot of the players and has moved a number of them on to specialist training plans.

Tried to get specific names, but they wouldn't say.

2.) 13 nov 2023 22:12:27
these things occur when players are allowed to go off on they're own fitness regimes and gym work, often with personal trainers who are not football orientated and too concentrated on body look.

3.) 13 Nov 2023 22:14:11
A lot of people blamed Bale’s injuries at Reao Madrid due to the amount of muscle he put on when he went there.

4.) 13 Nov 2023 22:35:48
Great to have a manager that can identify these issues and try and sort them out.

5.) 13 Nov 2023 22:37:18
Never good when player become top heavy think that's what did Kent in.

6.) 13 Nov 2023 23:12:01
Imagine what Clement would be thinking if he seen El Buffalo's physique ?.

7.) 13 nov 2023 23:36:58
in bales case i would imagine he had a home gym, personal trainer and the full monty david, , the very best of body imaging people around him if he wanted, so yeah you could be correct mate.

8.) 13 Nov 2023 23:48:50
Bale was always injury prone, he was probably too fast for his own good as a youngster and constantly done his harmstring.
Hence always having that sports tape on.

Nothing to do with Madrid just his body.

9.) 14 Nov 2023 06:46:21
Gofor - Dunno about muscle mass re Kent? - think it was more to do with that little bit of grey matter located between the ears which affected RK and more his attitude as can be seen as what's happening currently at Fenerbache!

10.) 14 Nov 2023 08:45:00
Gofor what did Kent in was he is as thick as two short planks. The guy had no football brain. He never knew when to release the ball, no awareness of his teammates, and never knew how to keep it simple. That's why sakala, sima and anyone else who played there would always have better numbers than Kent.

11.) 14 Nov 2023 09:49:23
Purely in the sake of accuracy. Kents stats for assists to the assist were second to none in Scotland by a country mile (thumbs up) :)

12.) 14 Nov 2023 10:21:42
Livi bear i take your point about kent. But sakala having brains? Lol.

13.) 14 Nov 2023 10:33:15
Look at the pictures of him before and after he went to real. Not saying that’s all it was down to but have definitely seen people saying the increase in muscle mass was part of the problem.

14.) 14 Nov 2023 12:52:51
I wonder if Clement would actually have got Alfie fit as opposed to talking about it and not doing anything about it like our last two managers, or would he have just said this guys attitude stinks and he`s not worth the effort.

15.) 15 Nov 2023 11:23:05
Dado sakala kept it simple and direct.



21 Oct 2023 19:23:17
Today was the first time all season that the players looked like they had a tactical purpose out there. Too often under Beale it was just players on the pitch with no identity, hoping something happened. Today I could see a game plan for each player and the team.


1.) 21 Oct 2023 22:38:41
100%agree was like they have been told take chances try the difficult passes and don't be affraid to lose the ball in the attempt more shots more direct play higher tempo looking forward to next game to see if we can keep that going.




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20 May 2024 12:05:29
He’s been playing like he drinks that’s for sure.




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18 May 2024 16:46:08
I believe Mofokeng makes Yilmaz look tall ? imagine them being our left side. We’ll get battered in SPL.




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18 May 2024 16:43:51
Look at Troyes being part of the city group. An absolute DISASTER.




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09 May 2024 14:03:48
Maybe it’s one of Beale’s burner accounts.





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11 May 2024 20:17:30
Berkshire, nonsense about Gerrard. He was always leaving at the first offer from EPL.




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08 May 2024 09:38:38
We will receive a fee upon Ipswich unexpected promotion. Also same for Kamara at Leeds.




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05 May 2024 16:24:45
McInnes turned us down when Mark Allen presented the list of signings that would be brought to the club at the next window.




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27 Apr 2024 10:54:14
And some on here didn’t rate him.




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27 Apr 2024 10:53:35
That shoulder header to Kyogo at the piggery when it was going out for a goal kick was the final straw for me.




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